Thursday, October 17, 2013

CJNG Uses "Grenade-Walker" Against Police- 2 Years After Being Smuggled for CDS

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Backstory:
The following is from WSJ report of September 2011:
Mexican authorities on Tuesday confirmed the capture of Jean Baptiste Kingery, an American citizen accused of smuggling grenades across the border to help arm drug cartels.
U.S. officials said earlier that Mr. Kingery had been arrested in late August at his home in Mazatlan, in the Pacific-coast state of Sinaloa, but Mexican police only confirmed the arrest Tuesday.
Mr. Kingery, from Arizona, allegedly purchased components to make hand grenades and other weapons in the U.S. and smuggled them across the border for use by the Sinaloa Cartel, one of Mexico's major drug-smuggling outfits, Mexican officials said in a news release.
U.S. officials briefly had Mr. Kingery (at left) in custody in June 2010 but let him go after just a few hours, fueling an ongoing battle between prosecutors and agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. That followed a failed plan to use Mr. Kingery in a sting operation in early 2010.
The Justice Department and Congress are investigating the series of missteps in the case, which is similar to the botched "Fast and Furious" program that allowed suspected smugglers to buy thousands of U.S. firearms. The mistakes made in the Kingery case helped force the ouster last week of Kenneth Melson, the acting director of the ATF, and Dennis Burke, the U.S. attorney in Arizona, U.S. officials said.
Mexican officials said Mr. Kingery's arrest came after they broke up another grenade-smuggling ring in Baja California in April, which eventually led federal police to Mr. Kingery's hideout.
The following was reported today, this  from CBS:
CBS News has learned of a shocking link between a deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexican police last week and a controversial case in the U.S. The link is one of the grenades used in the violent fight, which killed three policemen and four cartel members and was captured on video by residents in the area.
According to a Justice Department Significant Incident Report (see as image below)  filed Tuesday and obtained by CBS News, evidence connects one of the grenades to Jean Baptiste Kingery, an alleged firearms trafficker U.S. officials allowed to operate for years without arresting despite significant evidence that he was moving massive amounts of grenade parts and ammunition to Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.
The gun battle took place last week in Guadalajara. Authorities say five members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel used at least nine firearms and ten hand grenades against Mexican police. If one of the grenades was supplied with the help of Kingery, as believed, it adds to the toll of lives taken with weapons trafficked by suspects U.S. officials watched but did not stop.
The Kingery case was overseen by the same Arizona U.S. Attorney and ATF office that let suspects traffic thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels in the operation dubbed Fast and Furious. The strategy was to try to get to the cartel kingpins, but it was halted after CBS News reported that Fast and Furious weapons were used by cartel thugs in the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010. Weapons trafficked by other ATF suspects under surveillance were used two months later in the cartel murder of Immigration and Customs Agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico on February 15, 2011.
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On Wednesday, ATF told CBS News it has "no information" about the Kingery connection to last week's gun battle in Mexico.
As CBS News previously reported, documents show ATF began watching Kingery in "2004 related to AK47 purchases" he was believed to be trafficking to Mexico.
In 2009, ATF also learned Kingery was dealing in grenades; weapons of choice for Mexico's killer cartels. Documents show they developed a secret plan to let him smuggle parts to Mexico in early 2010 and follow him to his factory. Some ATF agents vehemently objected, worried that Kingery would disappear once he crossed the border into Mexico. That's exactly what happened.
Kingery resurfaced several months later in 2010, trying to smuggle a stash of grenade bodies and ammunition into Mexico, but was again let go when prosecutors allegedly said they couldn't build a good case. In 2011, Mexican authorities finally raided Kingery's factory and arrested him -- they say he confessed to teaching cartel members how to build grenades and convert semi-automatic weapons to automatic. The Justice Department has not provided an update on whether it's trying to extradite Kingery to the U.S., and an ATF spokesman said on Wednesday that he doesn't know the status of his case.

Sources:WSJ-CBS-DOJ-Texas Border Security Operations Center

39 comments:

  1. Well, well, well it is getting to where nothing surprises me anymore. US is as corrupt as Mexico or s they say, "When you wallow with pigs..."

    The "good" people killed (on both sides) is disgusting!

    Mexico_watcher

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    1. Moron the us goverment us wats corrupting everyone around them
      dumbass

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  2. 2004,started"watching"him,Obama was not president yet,Eric holder was laundering money somewhere else... who will the Lebanese teabaggers investigate now?

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  3. worthless scumbag.
    the things some people will do for money.
    glad they arrested him.

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  4. And who sold this Guy the parts to make those grenades?,the government of the us knows,they can and will find out,I hope...

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    1. He should made them out coconuts, no overhead..

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    2. Coconuts,dark outside,whiter than white inside... they the bomb!

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    3. Why extradite him to the us?the NRA will set him free in two months, to keep up with his pursuit of happiness.
      Let him do his time where he fucked up, in mexico.may the gringos learn sompin'...

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  5. Suggest modification to headline.... they used GRENADES against police. Not "grenade-walkers".... "grenade-walking" is a verb meant to show that the grenades were walked across the border, just as the guns were walked across the border in F&F. A read of the first hyperlink will clear it up; they define gunwalking there, and by extrapolation, grenade-walking.

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    1. Haven't told you this yet today, 9:58 pm-Fonty, "grammar gestapo," Just STFU! No one cares about your stupid English grammar lessons.

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  6. The us has their fare share of blame as to what's going on in Mexico they just won't admit it their corrupt as well . At least Mexico will tell you were corrupt but US hides it until their exposed and even then still will not fess up to it we know the truth as well .

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  7. @9:58 grenades would mean nothing, in this narco war. I saw the term gun walkers so I thought I would give it a go. Admittedly it is a little awkward if one is ignorant as to the grenade walking case, I will think about it.

    Grenade Walking is not a verb...it is a noun as it is a tactic.

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    1. Hi Chivas. Perfect wording, given the Fast & Furious gun walkind dabocco. We may never receive the true depth of deception involved in that nightmare. But, I would love to hear the entire story on this murdering, grenade making scumbag! Glad to be back and have BB at the forefront of the continuing nightmare in Mexico. Thanks and Peace, Texas Grandma.

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  8. @Chivis I see what you mean. I guess when I read the original headline, it sounded to me like you were saying CJNG *threw* grenade-walkers at the police... from the words "used grenade-walking against the police"... the mod is clear I think.

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    1. Chivaaa! relax,smoke somping,and keep slamming the grammar,I hope you won't be using a mask on the ring,I did not know you was a wrestler...

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  10. BTW...Since I know he still hangs out here at BB,

    WEDDING CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW MR. & MRS. OVEMEX...

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  11. If the mex govt gots to get destabilized it needs a kick,what's better than grenades for the thugs,when I read the headline, I picture some blindfolded guy walking with two grenades in his hands..

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  12. So fucking what? They use what they have.

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  13. He should of just stuck with CDS

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  14. I live in Mexico and also have lived in the USA. Yes the US government is corrupt. But in this case it is an individual. He is a criminal. The Narco's are not corrupt, they are criminals. If the government is making money off this or looking the other way when they are crossed then that would be government corruption. But in no way is the USA government even close to the corruption that effects the people in their homes and as they drive, or their businesses or workplace with violent and psychological corruption as there is in Mexico. Kidnapping, extortion and selling out plazas for money to pass drugs and commit crime is a Mexico is a common thing, and as with the 13 Federal agents that were killing and kidnapping people in Acapulco. That would be corruption. They do rank corruption, you can look it up on the computer. These are people that have a better idea then you or me. Mexico in no way is similar in the amount of corruption doled out to it's people then in the USA. It is very obvious. So do not take this personal. It is not about you, or the good Mexican people. It is about criminals and governments. They live in government also, and in this case an individual that is just a flat out criminal. This is a criminal act not sponsored by the US government. Operation gunrunner did not start out as corruption. It was a bunch of idiots that should not have been in the position they were in. Their intent was to follow bad guys. The way they played it out was just plain idiocy. If they find the US government was knowingly involved then it would be corruption.

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    1. Weapons manufacturers getting a little of that naco-narcs'money on the sly,not an accident!!!

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    2. Not everybody working on government is saintly,"ATF" had an "acting"boss because the teabaggers running the Republican party wanted it like that,they are tools of the NRA.weapons manufacturers had their little operations there to enhance the revenue.as for corruption,foreign banks all over Mexico AND the us. are in cahoots and busily working to corrupt and destabilize all countries that lay on their path to global domination,the gangsters have infiltrated governments all over at every level, and I don't mean the gangsters disciples

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  15. Chivas:

    If you read this, it better serves my intentions as to how I feel. I need to read further into the article before letting my emotions get to me. I am tired of criminals and corruption being taken out on both sides of the border. It is very frustrating to see the good people in Mexico being assaulted and killed, many have been my friends. For my own sanity I sometimes think I should stop reading about all the violence. But when you see it happen first hand, it is unavoidable to not feel it in your daily thoughts

    I guess I spoke too fast in my last post. I was so angered as I live here in Mexico and I am tired of the good people being killed. I have lost too many good friends and acquaintances. It sounds like they were trying to catch bad guys, but what idiot would even think that there would not be people killed with these grenades while trying to get the information needed for their investigation. What is wrong with the US government in this cases like this. They should have done everything to stop this years ago. Makes you wonder how far these people in these positions have deviated from what people want on either side. Governments are getting out of hand. I still stand by my assertion that the Mexican government is far more corrupt then the US government. It is not a competition, but just facts. I believe it in no way, on either side reflects what the citizens want. If it does, those would be some very sick people. I really think the governments need to work together to knock out criminals on both sides of the border, in and out of government, and to share important information like this before it goes too far. The blood of these Mexican police officers is on the hands of the US government for letting this happen. They could have notified the government of Mexico, and the intentions of Kingery. If that were the case he would not even be living there, or for that matter in Mexico.

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  16. And who really gave the atomic bomb to the USSR,to France,to China,India,Israel,Pakistan, north Korea,Iran,etc,etc?those guys have not even invented toilets for gosshakes!

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    1. The Israelis stole the a-bomb plans from the USA by use of spys; a fact forgotten, and yet, they are our closest allies?

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  17. US drug market is at least 10 times as valuable as Mexico's drug market, so how is it not detected by DEA/CIA/Police or else, well you gess right, it IS known, but some elements of those organizations are just as corrupt as anywere else in the world, money is hell. And yes most weapons are send from the US to Mexico, no doubt.

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  18. Sons of bitches don't know shit !
    Knights Templar controls Mexico and la Tuta governs Mexico !

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    1. La puta tuta governs Mexico from his spider hole in an anthill? the little sicario runt is someone else's bitch,and sooner or later one will give up the other,in that business backstabbing comes with the territory,just wait and see who gets the first jump...

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  19. What the hell is CJNG? Article should be more clear. Just bitchin' Thanks!

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  20. They should kill this fuck
    he was ploting to terrorise
    the Mexican people!!!
    then They wonder why
    we help Hezbolá

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  21. peter lopez....if you could not figure it out in the article-do you know what google is? try cjng in google.


    as for the grammar gestapo, actually I think he/she meant no offense and was trying to help...usually that is not the case :)

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  22. Knights Templar don't even control michoacan your a foquero

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  23. Puro caballeros templarios el morro 0-4 al a verga los de jalisco

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  24. So they tied a piña smothered in garlic butter to his huevos and pulled the pin as a message to all "Frenchie" descendants? (Including the current head guy of the NRA?)

    No knowingly selling weapons to criminal crazies!

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  25. If they arrest the arms traffickers the money flow to the NRA would stop. The government (NRA bitches) won't allow that.

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  26. El Mencho and the CJNG are a bunch of cowards !
    ZETA for life bastards !

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  27. It would be good to hear more about thus Kingery guy. Sounds Canadian. That French name makes me think maybe Louisiana tied. I'm sure they let him go saying he would lead them to big fish but with incompetents working with no one to check them we see typical results again. The US wants MX's here so they have new taxpayers, they don't want anyone locked up, then they can't contribute to taxpaying.

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  28. American foriegn policy since the dulles brother has been, destablize, destablize, destablize.
    Mexico is pretty much destablized at this point.
    Mexico is hung out, americans are strung out
    And the banks are getting the gansters to launder their money and invest in the economy of the U.S. of A.
    That's not so hard to understand.
    It's that timeless English empire drag devide and conquer.
    Drugs gangs weapons money murder chaos and anarchy are just a means to an end.
    Total Control.

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