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Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Video Translation: People of U.S. do not Abandon us"- CT Usurps Indentity of Autodefense Groups

Chivis Martínez for Borderland Beat

CT Usurps Identity of Autodefense Groups-Cloning Vehicles and Shirts.  Dr. Mireles openly addresses rumors perpetrated by Templarios.  
Translation is of Video at the bottom of this post

Dr. Mireles, good afternoon, thanks again for giving us this interview. Rumors have been circulation on social networks where is said that the auto defense groups have decided to take the municipality of Apatzingán. Is this true Dr. Mireles?
Well, I just want to send a message to all the civilians of Apatzingán that we, the auto defense groups, have never thought in taking over the city. That is the truth. We say this because we have discovered fifteen trucks with the same logo as ours in La Loma de los Hoyos and other ranches with people that are wearing shirts identical to the ones we wear.
I want to tell the citizens of Apatzingán that those people don’t belong to our group. They are the Caballeros Templarios who were planning to invade Apatzingán, and kill many people in the march so that the auto defense groups would be blamed for it. We have never planned in taking the city of Apatzingán.
We have been in the lookout for when the citizens of Apatzingán decide in unison, to rise in arms and eradicate organized crime that is nesting in their city. So probably we will go assist the civilians along with the army and the federal forces, when they decide to rise in arms but we have never planned to go and attack the city of Apatzingán. On the contrary, we only defend our borders from organized crime, so they won’t return to our land, since the first day which was February 24th of this year.
Pricilla, we have done this for almost 7 months and we have never invaded a municipality or any ranch that is living peacefully but when the citizens of Apatzingán unite their desires and rise in arms against organized crime, that is when we will go to assist them, if they ask us to do so and I repeat, we will not go alone, the Mexican army  will also support us as well as the federal forces; but that will only happen the day that the citizens of Apatzingán by the sum their wills  rise in arms to definitely eradicate organized crime.
Dr. Mireles, since when have you been having this information about the Knights Templar who are usurping community police and want to enter the municipality of Apatzingán?
For greater than two weeks we have heard these reports, also the army and the federals know there are several trucks cloned exactly as the army, national marines and as the federal forces.
 
We know that yesterday the mega march that was meant to take place was cancelled. People were hired to strengthen the march from Zamora, Morelia and Zitacuaro. These people were offered 200 people to assist the march and if the people wouldn’t come, they would be fined with 200 pesos. This is general information that is given to us by people that hear it from families or friends of the Knights Templar.
We were very concerned since the day before yesterday about the concentration of at least 30 trucks that were using the logo of the auto defense groups and the people wearing shirts saying: “For a free Tepalcatepec”, “For a free Buenavista or a free Ruana, were all Knights Templar. (posing as autodefensa)
All of these impostors were going to commit a massacre among all the people that were paid to march and then blame us for that situation. I repeat, we never crossed our municipality to invade another municipality, ever! We are exclusively watching the territory of our municipality. When are we going to Apatzingán?

The day that citizens unite their will and rise in arms against organized crime and will want to eradicated completely. But we will not support those that have personal agendas with organized crime, those that were collaborators of these people and then turned their backs on them because they only have internal issues with them (criminals). We do not participate in those movements, Priscilla.
The march that you are talking about, when was it going to take place, Dr. Mireles, or when is it going to take place?
It was going to take place yesterday at 9 am but because of the tropical storm “Manuel” that has caused damages to the region; the march did not take place. I hope that they will forget about it and not (as planned) make that march with the hired people to destabilize the region more than it is. We don’t do things like that, we just defend our borders.
So, what you are informing us Dr. Mireles, is that the Knights Templar was planning to commit a massacre, usurping the identity of the auto defense groups that are present in the region?

Exactly and that was what we were concerned about but fortunately it did not take place because of the tropical storm “Manuel” but hopefully the people desist of participating in it and if they are forced to do so, they have the right to yell, ask for help, speak to the authorities that they are being forced to a narco protest in which they don’t want to participate, since they also have the risk to be killed by the Knights Templar and blame it on us.
 
We are not going to leave here, we have said that before. We are not going to invade any city. We will support any city that want to rise in arms and ask for our support but we will not go alone, federal forces and militaries will lead us. We will only go to support citizens but will never go and attack any city, nevertheless, if they don’t want to defend themselves from anything.
Dr. Mireles, what about the rumors about the people of organized crime infiltrated in the auto defense groups?
Well, we have rumors that the people are turning their backs to organized crime. Those that were Zetas that became Familia Michoacana and then Templarios. We know that there is an internal division between the high heads of the mafia that exist in Michoacán and many of them have tried to ask for support to exit the organization, supposedly, but then they will infiltrate into the auto defense groups with the argument that they ended very bad with Quique Plancarte, La Tuta or El Chayo.
 
We do not believe all of those people because they are criminals, murderers, drug traffickers, kidnappers, executers of many of the families that don’t exist anymore in our region.
 
We will be constantly vigilant with those that supposedly regret being with the organized crime and want to return to our community but we know that their only intention is to come, re-accommodate in the municipalities which they lead before, then they will try to execute us one by one. That is why we are vigilant and constantly communicating with the companion Hipolito Mora of La Ruana, the companions of Buenavista, Coalcoman, Aguililla and Chinicuila because we do not believe in repentance of the criminals.
They never regretted when they had our brothers, cousins, or relatives kneeled down, tied from feet and hands and shooting them at the back of their head. We will continue watching closely,  so  infiltrators don’t return and if someone from our municipality or any other municipality want to give forgiveness, I will clear them out.  This municipality that rose in arms since February 24th will never forgive anything that the criminals did and will not accept them back into this municipality, NEVER.
Dr. Mireles, many people are questioning why don’t you denounce with the authorities or turn them in, if you already have identified the alleged repentant members of the organized crime?
The day that we catch them, if they decide to come to this municipality, we will turn them in. There are many of them; I just know their nicknames: La Goya, El Güero, El Pollo and El Orejon are the ones that have come here. ...continued on next page

That is what I have heard because we have never seen any of them but we have heard that they have gone to Buenavista, La Ruana and even one of them have come to Tepalcatepec to seek for compassion and forgiveness of some of our general coordinators but the word of a general coordinator will lose its value, if they forgive any of these people because the people have the right to defend themselves, expel them or even execute them for all the massacres the criminals made before.
We have the names and all that information is known by the federal government and the army. All they have to do is detain them when they appear. The criminals can have our  shirts, our logos but the town perfectly identifies them and if they are seen here, the town will detain them and expel them, Priscilla.
Dr. Mireles, and how is the situation recently since the last time that you gave us an interview?
Well, since that time until now, I have been guarding continuously for four days because every day the criminals came shot for a while and then left, throw grenades and left.
 
So we are still in the same condition, of attempted attacks every day. Now that we have been supporting 300 families that were forced to evacuate their homes because of the flooding caused by the tropical storm, we are working 24 hours without stopping.
We have been insisting our companions not abandon their borders and that way the people can work on rescuing the families. I want to highlight the posture of the army during this emergency situation; they immediately put on their emergency plan tags on their shoulders and since 4 am helped us rescue the 300 families of the colonies that were near the river. So that is what we have been doing since yesterday, I cannot say that the situation is controlled but we are watching.
 
There is a bridge, a highway, which heads to Jalisco, the reinforcement of the cement is weakening and that is the only concern we have, since that eliminates the communication with the city of Tecalitlán, which is where we are sending our ill and injured people. The road collapsed completely in three parts and a man, owner of a mine, Miguel Angel Del Toro, is doing us the favor of offering all of his machinery to try to solve the situation of lack of communication caused by this rain.
Dr. Mireles, have the government of the state send help during this storm  situation you are living in?
Absolutely nothing, Priscilla, we don’t exist for them and we don’t count. Probably they (politicians) would come to see us during elections but not when we need from them. We don’t count to the state and that is a disgrace because when it’s election time they come knocking to our doors but when there are emergency situations as serious as this one, we are forgotten. They are very comfortable in their offices, wearing their suits, having air conditioning.
 
They don’t suffer from floods of this kind, that is so great, let’s hope that all of their families are in peace, but some day justice will play its part and hopefully they will never be in  the situation we are in so they won’t see what it is to find itself in a real necessity.
Dr. Mireles, is the only support you have is from the military and the federal police?
Yes, only from them. They are the ones supporting us. I made a marathon of 15 hours working. I was going from one end of the lake to the end of the lower colony of the town but we have not backed down and it is remarkable how the citizens moved to help. It is wonderful to see our poor people working hard and making chains to get kids out of their houses or to take things out of the house that were under water, Priscilla.
The army was in charge of the most dangerous communities which was the tamarind zone and were more than 500 homes and the army did not backed down.
Thank you Dr. Mireles for giving us this interview, is there something else you want to add?
Well, just keep asking the national and international community to continue supporting us. It is important to us that people don’t stop looking this way, to not stop looking the social movement we have created. We are working without the support of the state government which is not interested in our municipalities that have risen in arms and have us, totally abandoned. Everything we have done has been with the effort of all the citizens of our municipality: Tepalcatepec, La Ruana, Buenavista, Aguililla, Chinicuila and Villa Victoria.
 It is important that public opinion, our people of United States; do not abandon us, because they are the only ones that  as for now have given us all the support, some of them have given us moral support, others have given financial support according to their possibilities. Do not abandon us, we are not going to stop fighting but we need our people, wherever they hear this message, to keep supporting us.

52 comments:

  1. how do we make a small political contribution to this guys effort?

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    1. Wish I new someone down there. Id donate to help them out

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    2. contribute money,make sure of the address,so it doesn't end up in the pockets of the naco-narcs or la puts tuta...

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  2. True hero..mis respetos a este senor.

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  3. This is a really good interview, translation and well, good work all the way around, as always, Chivis. He certainly helps make things clearer instead of deliberately making the waters as murky as possible. I also like the guy a lot.

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  4. Just like Mexico independence hero Jose Maria Morelos tried to lift the oppressive yoke of Spanish rule from what we now call Mexico, Southwest U.S.A., and Central America, Dr. Mireles is trying to lift the yoke of the CTs and their corrupt politician supporters. It took New Spain 11 years and perhaps 1 mil. human deaths to reach that end. Hopefully it don't take the PCs that long to establish theirs from organized crime.

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    1. the Jesuits had been kicked out of Spain, they with France and the us ambassador Joel poinsett(the man that gave his name to our Florida de nochebuena),they cooked the independence of Mexico with our Mexican heroes,behind the courtains,of course,the goal : to keep America for the Americans, which do not include Latinos Hispanics or blacks

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    2. The Indians are not Americans either,hell they are not even people,according to the white Bible of the kukluxklan...

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  5. Outstanding work by people tired of the "narco terrorist" that control much of Mexico. Many support your efforts and wish to support you financially......

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  6. I am attempting to locate a verified authentic method of contribution. I have sent communications to two sources that Dr Mireles has given interviews to.

    If any of you feel moved enough to do the same please help me locate a donation center. I have found 2 but both were not verifiable.

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  7. Yo como mexicano que soy,, que mi venie de mexico de mojado, crossed thru T.j and S.D walking with my family in the middle of night, nunca do I forget who I am and what I am and where I come from. I give full support to Dr. Mireles for a better future of Mich. and well as the rest of Mexico. Where do I send my support, no estan solos!!!!!! Para un Mexico Libre y un futuro para la gente y lose ninos.

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    1. Thanks for the goodwill broda y que viva spanglish and ebonics,believe me you are doing very well!

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  8. I am writing a strongly worded letter to the mexican consulate, asking why EPN and the media is truning a blind eye, to what is a civil war in Michoacan. God help the poor people of Michoacan! evil grows when good people stand and do nothing.

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    1. They will answer to you no doubt about it.

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    2. Send or take reporters with you,if you write to the consul,send copies to the news people and radio and TV,there is noting those motherfockers love than raising hell over anything,just like BB!bless

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  9. Someone out there must know where BB patrons could donate. Help Chivis, and this org out by getting the reliable info. to Chivis.

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  10. I promise to dig as hard as I can. I found the address to "W Radio Los Angeles" which has the reporter that interviewed him on one my video posts. It is station 690, address in Burbank but it is really a TJ station. I am searching for phone and address there to call.

    I have been swamped with requests of where/how to donate. We could give great support...if only knowing where.

    Again I warned to be cautious about giving to just any website representing themselves as a collector for the cause.

    I know we have some talented, resourceful readers who perhaps could figure this out, but I will keep trying

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    1. Heyyy chivis dr mireles has a official website about tepelcatepec where you or anyone can donate money or contact him unfortunally right now im not sure what it is i think is policia comunitaria de tepalcatepec.org

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  11. If anybody finds out how to send money.ill send some

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  12. paute con nostros w radio 3100 west olive ave burbank ca 818 972 4200

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  13. Its hard chivis to see who can be trusted but how about getting in touch with the red cross and setting up a fund that can be distributed by the red cross toward mr mireles causevand support for these towns the money has to go for the greater good of the people their has to be a legitimate source that can be trusted where donations can be sent thanks chivis .

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    1. Televisa and don francisco Pinochet will do telethons,of course they will steal the money to privatize it, after the Guatemalans blew their drug trafficking,they need the money more that ever...

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  14. Jeez, this is sad. Here we go

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  15. This sucks. Where are your gvt enforcement and peacekeeapers. You guys need to send someone up to the u.n and make a plea for help. That way it brings your plight to the world stage and puts pressure on your bitch ass govt.

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  16. I was watching a program on pbs called earth trekker or globe trekker and the lady was going all through mich and it was soo pretty, but its too bad she didn't bring to light the struggles the peoples are having there, its too bad

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  17. The only thing that keeps popping up is when they show pictures of the auto defense groups, they look basically the same as the cartel guys, just kind of sitting there showing off their guns and their numbers. True they arent aformal group of soldiers but if they looked like they took some pride in their appearance they might be taken more seriously, maybe i am looking at it through a different lens but when they are standing there, they really dont look formidable. Especially when they are standing around with huge bellies, it takes an enormous amount of food and energy to maintain that weight

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  18. Teen Planned to Give Grenade to Gulf Cartel Play Video

    September 25, 2013 1:05 PM
    EDINBURG - A teenager from Mexico is facing felony weapons charges. Police reports state the 16-year-old from Mexico crossed the river, picked up the grenade and planned to give it to the Gulf Cartel in Mexico in exchange for $200. Police said that exchange never happened. The teen

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  19. My friends in Patzcuaro, Mich. have heard nothing about this.

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  20. Donate anonymously. You don't want a 2 am knock on your front door from some good looking girl asking for "help".

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  21. Dam if there was a safe honest way to transfer money these guys would have tons of money and will have plenty of recources to continue there fight and help the people around them. They'd have no prob taking Apatingan if it rises and will continue to beat the shit out of c.t or any criminal group in there way. If we skipped what we spent on a 12pack of coronas and sent it there, good things could happen.

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    1. There is a safw way to do it he mr mireles say it in a interwiew someone did in espanish i think it was grillonautas

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  22. Espero el dia que Reynosa, Tamps y toda la frontera se levante en armas.....

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    1. for inspiration,see:Alejo Garza Tamez,BB

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  23. Relax. Eric Holder has it covered. More arms are on the way ...

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    1. 99% sure not Eric Holder,99.99% sure general naranjo,best wishes,even if the PC are the next villains,at least they will have learned that the love of the people is worth more than their money,it doesn't matter how unprofessional they"look"what matters is what is in a man's heart,be it enough that his peers accept a man enough to put in on the line with him,movie stars are not needed

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  24. The thing about this whole Community police movement is that it is more known here in the U.S than it is in greater Michoacan. I'm from Uruapan and I keep close tabs on what's going on via Family members. They tell me that They know the communitarian police are active en la Tierra caliente but nothing more. No media coverage nothing. Uruapan is extremely controlled by Los Templarios so that would explain why. And believe me when I say that the Big bosses when not in Apatzingan, hide in the mountains that exist on the edges of uruapan!

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  25. Thank you! I have the Burbank address etc since yesterday I am looking for TJ station that is who did the interview

    does anyone know who the reporter Priscilla writes for?

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    1. Heyyy chivis pricilla knows the official and trusted website that mr mireles opened to get donations and i think she works for grillonautas

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  26. my father is from tepalcatepec(tepeque) as it's known by locals... This man speaks nothing but the truth. The templarios r a bunch of extortionist... He lives there and on his ranch in Jalisco just on the other side they mentioned and a few months ago found a few bodies on the edge of his ranch the story was on blog del narco

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  27. Hey folks...I have the information and it is authentic. I was tossing and turning and decided to get up and work and there was an email with the info. I will translate everything and post it over the weekend....Paz, Chivis

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  28. It is easier to pick up a gun, to kidnap to extort, kill, to bury the truth, like past history has taught us! We as humans have the right to live, to survive, to pick up arms when the need arises to defend ourselves, family and nation. La gente de E.U (LA RAZA) estamos listos para dar support to our nation and people. Para un Mexico Libre y un futuro para la gente y los ninos.

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  29. Right, exactly but if you are going to stand in a foto, might as well stand up straight and show some resolve

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    1. And bat our eyelashes in lockstep??

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  30. Heyy chivis what do you know about cts and zetas jointing forces or making a cease fire that is a rrumor going on on some websites like por un michoacan libre and valor por michoacan sdr

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  31. @2:04AM
    Honestly, I have suggested multiple times if CT was smart they would ally with Zetas. It makes perfect sense, though absolute horror to the innocents. But I honestly think that train has left the station, CT is strong on their own volition operating in 13 states and trafficking across borders from BC to Tamps. But IMO the ultimate alliance.. would be CDS and Zs, splitting the country. From a strictly business stand point it is the perfect scenario.

    But don't hold your breath on that one :)

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    1. The zetas bit the hand that fed them, showing no gratitude or respect toward their leaders that had a vision for them. when the zetas had the upper hand,they helped nobody,not even their own help, sending them to kill or be killed,who in their right mind would want to associate with the remaining zetas who lost their originalmilitary zetas and almost all their money in two years.and a half,

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  32. I have an aunt comming to the states from la ruana to visit for christmas. I am so excited to speak with her.

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  33. Chivis, did you ever post the information you had after the weekend?

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  34. I am sorry, I will, I have been a bit sick and not working much at all at anything. It will be up on a post by the weekend.

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