Friday, August 16, 2013

Video Translated: La Tuta speaks...again Part Two

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La Tuta Part Two
The following is part two of the newest video message from La Tuta leader of Caballeros Templarios (CT or KT).  Some of his  words are reminiscent of auto defense leader Dr. José Maria Mireles 

In this installment he baits the person posing questions to him by interjecting an old embarrassment to the government.  In 2011 it was revealed by a Mexican investigative journalist, that Tuta was still receiving his teachers pay, though he had not stepped into a classroom in well over a decade.  Supposedly the payment had been halted, although no “on the record”, official verification was made public.  In an exchange below, he speaks of it, and immediately the interrogator jumped on the subject and asked if he still receives checks, read his reply, below. 
If you missed Part One link here, 
Who formed the community guards, then?

They existed in our state since the administration of Calderon that is well known by all of you. There has been a group that has been formed and has caused headaches to the federal government, at least to the last government and they are the Knights Templar, but we have our reasons, for the harassment to ourselves and our families. I am responsible for this, many of my boys are responsible for this, but my, mother, my wife, my children, my siblings or my friends have been blamed for it.
How many innocent people are in prison because of Genaro Garcia Luna and the administration of Calderon? Just to fill them up. There are many innocent people from Arteaga, which is my town, that don’t have anything to do with the organization and they are incarcerated. The best actor on television networks had was Genaro Garcia Luna, I think he was paid a lot of money to make all that drama; but oh well; we will see who is right at the end.
What situation might lead in Michoacán regarding the violence that has been generated? I mean from one side the auto defense groups and on the other, the Knights Templar, who are fighting over the territory and the villages.
 
It is so easy to calm things down. We just have to settle an agreement; we have to come up with agreements and negotiations, everybody; we are part of a society, I pay taxes, I am a teacher and taxes are deducted from my pay check.
 
Are you still getting paid?
I am going to assign it to you as a task, investigate, break your head a little bit, and you will notice how the system manages things. I know that you are an educated and prepared person and you know a lot of these things, just investigate and you will see.

What are you willing to do?
Whatever is necessary to accomplish peace and tranquility, it is not fear; we have people and we have everything. It is not our intention to damage the village but we are already here and we are not going to allow people from other towns to come and offend our town, starting with Police Corporations with whom we have had many problems.


Why can’t they do quality operations without bothering the villagers, and without causing fear? Why do they scare away the investment and tourism? Why have they categorized Michoacán as the worst? There were elections recently, clean Michoacán! All the politicians of all the parties ask for support to whoever they want to win the elections and afterwards they forget who their friends are, I am not going to say who, but all of them work that way, in PAN, PRD, PRI.
Why don’t they fix things up and we are willing to collaborate?

I am responsible and I know what will happen to me if I become careless, but I don’t want to bring my disgrace, to innocent people. The only one responsible for this is me and those who direct the organization with me, we are willing to do whatever it takes to bring peace and tranquility in Michoacán and not only in Michoacán but in all the country.
What are you willing to do? Turn in your weapons?
Turning in our weapons would be as if I turn myself in. We have publicly said, we can set aside and put away the weapons. If the government watches over and protects the villagers, as they should, go ahead, they are welcomed and we can negotiate, I would probably tell them, as the former Templar said, I am making bunkers with sand sacks in Aguililla to clear my record. I also want to clean my record, tell me where I can work as a farmer for a year so they won’t look for me.
Why the police that are in that place haven’t apprehend them and taken them where they need to be taken? So all we have to say is that I regret what I did and that’s it. Everything is forgiven? Is it all about that?
I don’t think that is ethical or professional from the authorities to allow things like that to be aired. The television media sell the information, they get ratings or whatever is called and you know that by getting higher ratings, more people would want their product to be advertised and that is business right?

So we are willing to do what is needed but I want to make it clear, turn in the weapons, no, set them aside, yes. We want peace and tranquility and we commit (noise of a helicopter, Speaking: that is a helicopter.) to peace and let the government do their job and establish a state of right against us if we are guilty but with respect, but at the same time to practice it against the community guards. Who are the community guards?
Who are they?
I am asking you. You are the press. The journalists have to be investigators and air what the real truth is.
But who are they? Do you know them, have you coexisted with them?
I am not going to say many things about them because you will say that I am saying this publicly and on television to make them look bad but investigate “La Many”. Who really is “La Many”? He belonged to the police of La Ruana. Investigate who is “El Americano” (the American). He is with the community guards in Buenavista.  Who is “El Abuelo” in Tepeque? Who is “Fructus”?

Investigate, I can tell you who they are but I am going to tell you when the camera is off so you know why he is with the other group. It was easy for them to still be with the Jalisco and come to Manzano. They are lying to the people. It is totally false that we charge one peso for the tortillas. “We buy the tortillas in 17 pesos because 2 pesos go for the Knights Templar”. It’s a lie. Community guards left all this organized since the administration of Calderon and the PFP is taking them everywhere and they (PFP) are leading it.

Do you think that we are going to let them advance? We have many people that are our friends, our relatives, and wherever the community guards go to, they displaced everybody. They are either executed or disappeared so the guards can keep their properties, because he was a friend or a buddy of a hawk. Is that crime? Is it a crime to have friends?
You are telling me that you are not going to let the community police advance, what would happen, what would you do to stop them?

What would you do if someone was trying to get in your house? Would you let them in and let them screw you? No. Am I right? You were going to react as the lions do, start marking your territory, aren’t you? So what would you do, then? We are not going to let them do it, and every time they come, it will happen, the same thing it has happen.

Can we say that this situation, instead of what the police say that there is peace, may lead to greater violence, a civil war?
I wouldn’t go so far, probably there is a lack of organization in the country, and the reasons were not given for a civil war. I don’t see it that way.
What could we call it?
Well, let’s call it criminal groups against criminals. What do you think? I don’t consider myself a criminal but that is how you call us, so let’s say it’s a criminal group against criminals. PFP or militaries should not intervene. Let them do it alone, since there are bunches. Why take sides, why don’t they listen to us?
Probably they will take our side. Who have worried about us? Until now, you young lady, is interested in interviewing us, but who has worried about knowing what is our routine and what is what we want? No one has asked us before. For you and for everyone else we are criminals. Investigate if we really are criminals.
What do you want? What is your doctrine?
We want employment, education and health. That the government corporations serve as they should with the taxes they steal. Why don’t they give education? They are going to say that there are universities but where is the employment? An attorney, a doctor with salaries as Cordero said, any Mexican can live with 6,000 pesos per month. Why doesn’t he get paid that? Why doesn’t he say: “I don’t want a permanent base, just give me 6,000 pesos per month”? Probably it would not harm him to receive 6,000 pesos per month because he should have enough funds since he is a politician. I say it with due respect.
Why aren’t we careful what we say? Don’t you think that those words offend the people? Don’t you think that they humiliate the people? Probably.  I also have humiliated the people and if I have, I’ve done unconsciously, that wasn’t my intention. That is what our doctrine is about, that everybody defends their rights, their values. Every man has its dignity and their pride. I prefer to ask forgiveness than to ask permission, if someone hurts me personally. I am not going to allow someone killing my parents, my brother or my woman and if my woman wants to leave me, she is free to do so, I can find another one.
Simple as that but there should be respect. Federal, state and all type of government should respect my agreement. We have another cause as to why we are here, and if you want to categorize us of anything, go ahead, I had said it clearly. We have many friends that like our organization are drug traffickers. They can do whatever they want; we are not going to prohibit it. We will prohibit kidnapping, rape and robbery. Probably you would say: “But you also steal”, I have said before, there are some of my boys that don’t understand and they steal. I am not going to say that I don’t steal, but we need a way to produce for our people to eat. Ask around how many people we have of each village and how many people receive a salary.
At top is decal for one month highway tax paid to CT the lower is
avocado growers CT receipt for "tax" citizens pay a tax to use public highways
 
Did you substitute the abandonment of the government on these villages? What benefit have you brought to the villages of Michoacán and the other places where you have presence?
The real problem is not only of the actual administration or the last administrations. All the administrations commit the same mistake. Many government employees leave the resources to their personal benefit, it doesn’t go to where it should.. I am not going to say that they are not doing anything because there are many militaries, marines, PFP and state police. What happens is that certain people of different federal government dependencies only fill their pockets. They don’t think about the towns.
What benefits have you brought to the communities where you are present? I don’t know if you have helped with pavement on streets or public lightning on streets?
You should put on evidence government employees and I want to make it clear, everybody knows everybody but not one civil servant have to do with us; we are respectful and we respect  their job, they should do what they are supposed to. If they won an election for popular vote, we should not mess with them. The only thing that we want is for the budget to be applied as it should. Yes, we have done many things. I ask for you to go to the communities and investigate, you already know where I am.
But, have you done roads, bridges, electricity to the communities that are abandoned, from your own resources? Have you supported the communities that way?
I invite you to go to the communities and you know where I have been or have domain. Ask the municipal presidents if it’s true that we are charging a fee of 10%. You can go and do your own investigation. We have done a lot of labor but it is not my duty to say it. I should not put on evidence many things but everybody come to us and ask for support. Poor people have their needs and sometimes they don’t have enough to pay  a thousand pesos for childbirth.
Not even for a caesarian section. The c section is not paid by the government for impoverished, I mean progress, opportunities, I don’t how referred to,  that fucking little program, but the money is not enough and since the people are so screwed and without a job that they come to us for support. If a c section costs one thousand pesos, I can give them 300 or 400 thousand pesos and not only for that, any kind of disease they have, anything they have asked for.
I am not going to say which, or where, it is not for me to say. But do your investigations, see what we really are. Just as during elections, when you do, what do you call it when you put who is on top?
A poll?
Yes a poll. I invite you to do one and project who we really are. The real problem here is what is happening with the community groups. Who walks around with their faces covered? My boys are covered but we are already categorized as criminals.
I assure you that most of them (community guards), 80% of them are criminals. We have plenty of space in the mountains to do whatever we want and not affect the villages or the people. It is not a message for the federal government. It is for the criminal groups because they are criminals and they are moving everywhere and stealing uncontrollably, but if any police corporation keeps supporting them on their advance for interests they have against us, I am going to say this as I talk, there will be quarrels. Let’s pray to God that it doesn’t happen and that we can get to an agreement and we are willing to do what is necessary so it will end up here.
Do you have something else to say?
Thank you, young lady for joining me. I am thankful
Thank you
 



57 comments:

  1. En serio? Este pendejo debuelta

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    1. Thank you La Tuta. I was having trouble getting to sleep so I watched your video. Zzzzzzz! So you all even help those with insomnia. LOL

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  2. The boss doesn't want any personal attacks, so we are being very diligent meaning additional comments will not come in. He saw comments that were not in line with the rules:

    here are the rules:

    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2009/04/moderation-of-comments.html

    Thanks

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    1. Oh really,then what do you call the first comment?!?!?!

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  3. Nice article chivis keep them coming

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  4. I miss going to michoacan its sad everything thats going on

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  5. I am not from Mexico but I can't tell who's really the "good guys" here. I've read about "communitarios" who have opened fire on innocent visitors and I have heard about the Templars opening fire on innocents. I'm afraid there are no good guys here. I believe majority of communitarios are honest, hard working people who just want peace. But I believe there are several who are Templars and infiltrated them in order to give them a bad rep. Who knows.

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    1. What people don't get is that the it isnt good vs evil. It is evil vs evil. The templarios are very well known to be scum. The communitarios are actually men organized by Juan Jose Farias (EL ABUELO) from tepeque. He has been known to hide in ranches near tepeque and he aslo operates in puerto vallarta. He is known to actually known to kidnap his own "friends" once they have accumulated a lot of money and properties and he takes all of it. In tepeque the local govt is run soley by his family. Look it up. All the people have farias in their name. In michoacan its all bullshit. Its all a set up. Everything is run by fear. What these men do is hire dumb youngsters willing to do anything fpr a buck. The ransoms for the kidnappings are always $5 million and above. He is known to kidnap in puerto vallarta, guadalajara, and all over michoacan. He's the scum of the scum. If i could i would personally kill him.

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  6. Long live tuta he's got a good mind not like chapo H beltran z42 those brains got too much coke that's why they can't think straight tuta for president ya dije

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    1. Tuta the Puta Meth Head addict for president of Sewer Rats aka CT.

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  7. Still collecting a teachers pension? Hmm sounds like he might know jesse jackson jr!! Who still gets to collect his in u.s after he was sentenced to prison!! What a load on both sides of the border!!!

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  8. 9:13

    and that is what Tuta wants you to think. The true auto defense are good, brave people. In the beginning CT created clone CPs (community police) and caused havoc and said they were CP's I was confused and stopped writing about them. But then it became more clear of how they operate and the do and don'ts so one can distinguish between the bad guys and the goods. CP are the innocents and they do not kill themselves. They work with the military and feds when asked, the mountains are treacherous and easy to hide in people from the outside need a learning curve but there is no time for that so they have relied in the past on CPs. Much less so with EPN. There is a good article maybe I will translate comparing Michoacán under calderon and EPN it is called "Calderon was right" or something similar.

    I have a friend in Dallas who wrote me after part one, he was a little confused, and he is a very smart guy, so I laid it out and he suggested I do the same because "I can't be the only one confused who are the good guys vs the bad". But that is a post requiring a ton of work. I know because I began one a few weeks back and it was overwhelming. But I think for people not knowing the history beginning with LFM it is difficult to follow.

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  9. Sounds like he wants to be forgiven . The best way to be forgiven is turn yourself in and answer to you transgressions . Oh yea that the catch . Your not really remorsful , you just want to treat it like it was just a big misunderstanding and forget it all. Go ahead man turn yourself in and prove your sorry , you sorry crimminal.
    Maybe where you from your transgressions arent that bad but I think a traficante at your level should alway recieve death. I expect you will. Or when your men are falling around you will you cowar and surrender

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  10. Los rojos should attack CT. Arturo Beltran where are you when we most need you!!!!!

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    1. 6 feet under the ground and tuta will jion him soon.

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  11. I always said la tuta is the biggest hypocrite of them all fuck the templarios they are a bunch of cowards they just go after innocent people theyre worst than zetas.

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  12. tutu is fucked.he has lost public opinion,its like z 40.everybody is happy he is gone,tutu is next.im not even from there but i hope they get him soon.he act like he owns those towns .

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  13. everything is quite in nuevo laredo and has been for six months.

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  14. Still forming opinions without facts

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  15. How do you bury a Shit like Tuta?
    Answer: By flushing the Turd (Tuta) down the toilet.

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  16. La Tuta... if you are reading this please google what a sociopath is and you will learn what you are (sociopaths can be aware that they are) and why everyone thinks you are a nut case... because you really are. You have a personality disorder and you are scum.

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    1. He barely knows how to speak in spanish el pendejo , how can he be reading this article? Lol

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    2. He didnt get to the top for pendejo or he would of not been a teacher, chingo mi madre that he is smarter then you

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    3. Y si he is smart solo que se hace al pendejito para que no lo vean but he is a very smart man

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  17. Note: The top "Highway Tax " Sticker uses figures from Mexican history . I believe the lower is an actual sticker from the Aguacate (avocado)farmers association.(probably for i.d. purposes at market) Years ago it was common practice in mexico to have to pay to travel from state to state. (windshield sticker). That I thought practice was abolished. The sticker with the Mexican heroes on it issued answers why there are so many bloqueos on the highway. Does anyone have a photo of the old school Mexican issued travel permits for state to state travel. Like I said do not believe they are required in Mexico

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  18. He is just a fucking criminal like the rest of them

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  19. Inche Tuta si quieres respeto deja de extorcionar y secuestrar we .. Hey chivis wuts up brother glad to see yur doing well i think i read a comment saying that you were going back to the hidout to play some video games hahaha thats so cool oim glad someone like you has that kind of spirit anyway yur rifht la Tuta and his boys are not saints there not the worst but there messing up ther own state but also its true what theres saying the c.j.n.g are using the Cg for there own agenda and thats why theres no good guy in this story anymore ... Im just hoping that peace and order is brought back to michoacan but la Tuta has alot of power and hes back up by el golfo and chapo guzman so its going to be tough maybe they even win the war the the soldiers the marines and the federal police havent stoped them at all ... Saludos y bendiciones att el Fantasma

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  20. La Tuta did such a band up job with La Familia, and now without stockholders or a board of directors to answer to, we can only hope he will continue his fine leadership for Los Caballeros Templarios.

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    1. To me el chango was the real familiaro. The rest of main bosses tuta, el mas loko ect. Where all fake.

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    2. Did you forget he went crying to the zetas to help him.

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    3. True but what would you do if you were betrayed by your so called friends? Become friends with their kryptonite (zetas).

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  21. Tuta behaves as though he is doing the farmers a favour by taxing & extorting them....It just proves that Tuta is a Characterless Scumbag Parasite and his CT gang is a bunch of Rotten Useless Thugs.

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  22. Everyone know Tuta is big drunk. He drink all day but no one else allow to drink. He is pendejo..

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  23. Ahhh!!!mi lindo Michoacan,donde somos los mas feos de todo Mexico(aparte de Oaxaca),cresemos los mejores aguacates,cosinamos el mejor "C".y tenemos la peor musica de todo Mexico.

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    1. And where are you from?

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    2. 12:23,from michoacan,that's why I said "mi lindo michoacan,I admit we're the ugliest,and have the worst music,with that damn harp.

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  24. 10;56 I don't think BB cares if Tuta is called out and insulted.

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    1. Oh,ok.I thought you where talking about him,and others who you write about,dispense Señora.

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  25. I figured I confused you! Sorry about that.

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  26. Wow. This fuk nut has lost his mind. A 'Christian' criminal group. How ironic is that. The entire premiss of Christianity (although lost to a majority of Christians) is when Christ was asked what the most important commandment there was, and he said "As I have loved you, love one another". Not, "As I have loved you, love one another, but sell crystal meth to kids and kill and decapitate people, extort, bribe, kidnap, rape………". To top it off, they dress up as English knights from the dark ages, and have little club meetings. These guys claiming Christianity is like a lion saying he is a vegetarian.
    Only in Mexico….

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  27. Tuta commented in his propaganda video of Lies that "He & CT are like lions who are protecting the territory that they have marked"...The Bastard Tuta is doing just the Opposite "Tuta & his CT are running for their lives like Coward Lowlife Sewer Rats"...Just Proves that Tuta the Puta Coward is pretending to be a Lion Heart whereas he is a Coward Lowlife Parasite Rat...All you CT butt lickers pass on this comment to Penjo Tuta the Puta.

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  28. This video looks like it was staged. Tuts wants us to believe he has been in the brush with his CT troops, his che impersonation, waging war against the evil PF, PC, and rival cartels. It's madness in Micho. Tuta probably living in comfort in his ranch house drinking cognacs and smoking puros while showing up to visit the troops inorder to stage video/interview. You can't tell his been in the brush for the last month. The question I ask is who is behind the madness. Could it be EPN/PRI inorder to distract from the Raul Salinas de Gortari exoneration for murder/illicit enrichment and return of his properties. Tuts is a saint compared to RSG.

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  29. Heyy chivis valor por michoacan was blocked by facebook for unknown resons but they came out with a new name valor por michoacan sdr

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  30. Todos los capos se junta a tomar y aser carne asada y el tema de la noche es "La Fruta"... Se burlan con las mamadas que sale este estupido. El Sapo y Los Golfos tambien se burlan.

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    1. APOCO?? Y que quieres? Un premio por el mejor chiste del dia?

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  31. What are you willing to do? Turn in your weapons?

    The problem in Mexico is not that bad people have weapons, but that good people don't.

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  32. would rather hear the truth of what is happening rather than self-serving bullshit

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  33. el gallo de tiuanaAugust 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    chivis no me gusto que no pusieras mi co mentario pero espero que entiedas que era solo mi opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  34. Bastard Scumbag Tuta & meth head CT thugs will soon be brutally killed. You penjos have murdered a lot of good and honest people amongst them Maria Santos Gorrostieta Salazar. Coward Parasite Tuta nobody believes your lies except for your CT thugs. From your videos Tuta you look like an Old Ugly Fucked Up Drug Addict.

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  35. It's funny how people are being fool by these deceitful wolfs dress in innocent sheep clothing. Why don't you guys haven't write the news report about how the military found nine body's dead with signs of torture and they also left message saying they where killed because they supported the knight Templars. The message was sign by scum POlice communitaries and the cjng claiming their forces are united. And trust me it was them I have good source from la Ruana claimed it was indeed the cartel of the autodefensed communals and it makes sense because I'd you really think about it they claim and boast that the area of Buenavista is on lock and no one can penetrate their territory due to their very effective vigilance. After all this matter happened the narco leaders of the police communal/ cjng appear in video trying to reject the claimed of the bodies in the video u can see the evil look in theirs eyes and fake smiles that they are infiltrated by something far more evil and sinister than we know or they can acknowledge. Who are el abuelo, el American, el caiman , el sorullo, el fruto la mami ipolito mora and many more??? True narco scumbags with all criminal history dress as innocents doves in their violent sinister acts!! The doctor that came out in one of the interviews from the tepeque has previous conviction of growing marijuana plantation in past!! We need to know more of these scumbags and I hope the U.S and Mexican government investigates more before more innocent life's Are taken and mislead by these imposter criminal the are as filthy as ct or any other criminal organization/ mafia cartels. I hope an pray that all the people from michoacan innocent, confused or stubborn open their eyes realize what really happening before its too late and more innocent blood is shed. Thank you for taking the time and reading this salu2 de phoenix hasta michoacan y todo querido Mexico entero!! United we stand divide we fall

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  36. What a deceiving alcoholic!!!!

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  37. My boys go out and they murder rape and steel ... But its not like there bad people hahahahaha inche Tuta te quedaste bien arriba we .... Dejate de mamadas y nomas pegale a los contras y veras q todo cambia att El Fantasma

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  38. The CP is backed by the Farias and Valencia families both arrogant lowest of the low, dirty tactic scum. Valencia's were booted from Michoacan and are now looking for a way back in through the wolfs in sheeps clothing. Valencia's provided assault weapons and combat instructors for the CP.

    If order is to be restored CP needs to be eliminated. Time for lone wolf covert assassins to be implemented by CT.

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  39. Useless bunch of lies by the piece of shit leader of cheap low life thugs CT.

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  40. @Knowledge
    If all is true as you say,what is their motivation and purpose?Is it to drive CT out and then take their fiefdom?Is that the idea behind all this?Has the community police been suspect from the start or was it righteous at the beginning and has now been compromised by cartel and others?Just a few questions as it is confusing and hard to see through a lot of it?

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