Monday, April 8, 2013

VxT: Permanently Closes, "I will never stop worrying about everyone"

Borderland Beat

Just as I was wrapping up this post, Proceso broke a story the VXT is posting  SDR reports which had ceased on April 1.  There was no announcement of any type in conjunction with the action, perhaps he wanted people to have safety reports up to the end?   Paz, Chivis
 
Translation by ABK
Six days ago, the social network page "value Tamaulipas" operating in social networking security that  disseminated information that dealt with situations of violence in that state, shut down its pages on Facebook and Twitter without previous warning or any official explanation.
The “VXT” site which acted like a community space and rapidly won over followers in the social networks for its work on behalf of the safety of Tamaulipians.  On Sunday explained in a notice through Facebook that the decommissioning of the sites will happen in the next nine days, and that he will not give any more effort to community pages related to situations of violence and also, offers a an apology to the citizens for not being able to continue with his work.
The administrator of those accounts, both in Facebook, as in Twitter, explained that he disclaims any involvement in these activities: “I don’t participate, nor collaborate, nor am I aware of who or why began those efforts” [speaking of clone FB and Twitter pages claiming to be VXT], he adds, running a citizen safety page is a large responsibility, especially if it is a good person. 
The person who ran the page had no help at all from the government, or police entities. He would inform with reports coming from citizens that would raise the complaints. Also, he would make real-time reports regarding events as they were happening, asking for more information and despite not always having confirmed data, there was something that would recur with the majority of the posts: he asks the page followers to take precautions, warning them to be careful.

Also, he alerts his followers about new page creations  with the same style and he asked not to totally trust them, he then insinuated that these might have other motives: You can’t trust the first page that goes out saying that they follow the footsteps of VxT, you can only trust with time, evaluating what’s posted and with what reason would they post those things in the way that they do.

The administrator affirms  that designated users to be consulted  in case “VxT” disappears.  “ I can’t retire peacefully, knowing the risks that they are getting in for collaborating openly with people who take advantage of the situation. In reality in social networks there are no honest spaces or users of which you might think there are and the consequences of collaborating with the wrong person can be disastrous.”

Also he writes of a user he invited as an administrator for the page “Valor por Tamaulipas”, but he finally found out that she had ties with the Gulf Cartel of Tamaulipas and with federal authorities and he reported about supposed agreements that this cartel had with government institutions in exchange of information.
 “I understood how the Gulf Cartel of that region reached  high-level agreements  with government institutions collaborating with information of criminals from rival groups and  the main reason why it is allowed for the Gulf Cartel of Tampico to do whatever it pleases with the people for information regarding the other groups.
That person had years as an icon in the reports of citizen safety pages, and if it wasn’t for some missed encounters that made me doubt and after confirming these situations, I would’ve been collaborating with that person without knowing what she would do.”
He said that for fear of the space being used incorrectly, he decided to close the page, without noticing that other similar pages were opened claiming that the administrator of “VxT” participated in their creation.

I don’t want to let anyone else in to run the page, for the fear I have of them utilizing this page incorrectly, also I don’t know if anyone else would put the same effort into it as I, or that from here in a year the conditions of that person haven’t changed as to put the people at risk, I thought of it as most adequate, to close the page and simply disappear.

What I had not fathomed was the amount of trust that would be placed in VxT would be transferred to other recently created pages in which some would even indicate that they had lied openly saying that I had participated in their creation.
 
Finally I announce that in less than nine days, the page will close for good without giving specific reasons and I thank the users for their trust: I can’t stay in this entrenchment for various reasons, that I believe aren’t necessary to explain.
And I don’t know if everyone has come to believe I haven’t given up and I won’t give up. But I believe I have given it everything I have and my inability to administer the page has begun to be noted, the reports, the risks, etc. There are 8 days left for the elimination of the page according to what’s programmed, in this case I won’t delete the publication until the receding count is done.
I thank you all again for your trust and support and I ask for an apology if I can’t continue. It wasn’t my intention to return and leave this message , in the end I will never stop worrying for everyone.....
Backstory:
In Feburary reward offered flyers were distributed in Reynosa, Tamaulipas.  Translated text:
600,000" [apx 46,000USD]  Pesos for the person that gives the accurate identity/location for the Administrator of the "Valor por Tamaulipas" page. Or in his case direct family members, be it parents, children, or wife.

This is just free speech, but in exchange for that, a good amount of money to shut the mouth of asshole pussies like these dumbasses. They think they are heroes.

Please refrain from fucking around. Value the life of your loved ones. The information shared will be confidential and be assured that the money will be given, if the information is correct, to the person that gives the exact identity of the Tamaulipas hero/pussy or family members".
 
The administrators Response:

The administrator of Valor por Tamaulipas issued a long response.  [translation by "777".

VxT Response :
"An organized crime group says they are looking for me or my family, I say to them that it is not necessary to look for my family… The problem for you ends with the root of one person that you should look for. I’m not even challenging you, I’m only making your job easier, I know that by starting this I decided that my end in this life would come before many others or that of a person who’s end comes naturally.

As a matter of fact I’m not playing the hero… I do my part as a citizen or member of a society before the challenge that organized crime groups represent for the stability of our state and our country. Continues
 


I don’t play the hero, I play the believer that insists with all his being of hope that in some moment things change in us as humans and habitants of this country, that we shall say that’s it to abuses committed by the criminals that govern us and decide who lives or dies, to their liking.  

You criminals are the ones that are mistaken, in our state Zetas or CDG, you believe that the natural order of things is that we be governed by two organized crime groups, you think it’s right for them to control our authorities and that the justice in our state be the one they profess.

You believe that all of us have to surrender before you, and that is not the way it is. We don’t all surrender… there are countless cases in our state of those who have resisted you, in most cases the good ones are the ones that end up losing, but at least those people have more dignity than those that decide to put their head down and accept the tyranny and enslavement that you have imposed on us.

Even in that head that is down there is dignity, intelligence and valor, because besides all the fear or terror that we may have, we got to work, we strive, and earn our daily bread with the sweat from our forehead, the professional achievements or personal that make us feel proud of being righteous people, an example for the generation to come to collaborate and have a city, a state, a better country than when we arrived on this earth.

It’s intolerable yet its our reality that in these days good people have to hide from criminals that govern us, but I know that one day, something will move my people, the brave people, to demand by whatever means necessary, what belongs to us by right, liberty, right to live.

Tamualipas, I have been conclusive with many, at times vulgar, I’ve lost my patience, I’ve risked people’s lives for being irresponsible, or for not having all the information I needed, I haven’t been able to defend myself nor defend the web page from people linked to organized crime, I ask for forgiveness from everyone good or bad, because all I have done has been done with good intentions.

And to the main ones, the ones that everyday of my existence since I created VPT, I ask for forgiveness is my family. For being hardheaded and not stopping when you asked me to, but you know me and know that I cannot stop when something is presented before me that is so wrong, and I know that we are obligated to confront it.  

On other occasions I have made indications when some type of threat has presented itself, today won’t be the exception, I want to leave you a few written things incase anything happens.

To all who that have followed the page and collaborated I say thank you, and I say I will continue to be with you. I ask that if one day I don’t return, if you see a picture or video of me, don’t believe them, and believe that I am far away in another country, hiding like a coward, and like always organized crime in general of all colors and initials are responsible of another injustice committed against our country, to try and intimidate us.  

I ask for you to look out for each other like you always have and that you continue to show the world that people from Tamaulipas risk themselves to publish on a Facebook page, Twitter, or forums and tell their brothers to be careful when being out on the roads, going to work, or coming back from school. 

To my civil heroes and Military I ask that you never give up and don’t succumb to corruption and don’t allow for that to keep ruining the institutions you are part of.  

I ask god to not abandon me, like never before, and that he accompany me to continue till I can’t  anymore, because I don’t intend on stopping voluntarily.

Don’t stop taking care of yourselves Tamaulipas, this page may disappear but not its heart an its worry for others, be it a friend or stranger.    

I believe that I’ve said it a few times but I’m VERY PROUD you all, the ones that contribute, the ones that follow, the ones that look for information to warn your communities. Just know that, its silly to say that I love you, but what do I do if that is how I feel." 
 
read full post here
Menny Valdz also reported this update:
Flyers were distributed at Lasalle College in Victoria, Tamps.  Interestingly the infamous mass killer of migrants "Kilo", has a relative that attends the college and was seen later handing out flyers.  [One can surmise, if true, that this is the work of Zetas].
 Sources: Sinbargo MenyTimes Twitter and Facebook and DD BB Administrator here
 

43 comments:

  1. BB should take over... U guys take great precaution and are well organized... Im sure if u did a Fb page ppl would follow u guys! Keep up the good work

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  2. if they are posting now maybe they are staying?

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  3. haha 9 days?..it's because fb gives you 10 days for the account to cancel permenately.

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  4. Someone else needs to step up and reopen these closed networks, they are very valuable to the Mexican people... It doesnt have to be someone on the ground in those cities it could be anyone from anywhere in the world! DONT LET THESE NETWORKS DIE, ITS EXACTLY WHAT THE CRIMINALS WANT! HECK OPEN ONE IN EVERY CITY AND TOWN IN MEXICO, GIVE THOSE LOCAL PEOPLE A PLACE TO SEND INTELTO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE!

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  5. Chivis "Valor Por Tamaulipas" is translated into "Courage For Tamaulipas".

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  6. Como es posible que cuando un capo muere o es atrapado ya existan 100 que pueden reemplazarlo,pero cuando una persona como esta cae es dificil su reemplazo.

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  7. Somebody well hidden and anonymous in San Antonio or Houston should take over the page.

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  8. Would it be possible to have a section/posting of rare assorted pics of narcos ? BDN had it in its early days.

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  9. Sad state of affairs,and think,your beloved CDG openly asked for his family,his wife,mother,and even babies?CDG would have killed his babies,anyone doubt that?They proved they kill children just recently.
    They did all this for what?I wonder if this is another woman of Mexico standing up again?Whoever it is give it up,they are facing "real danger"and they were getting closer.

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  10. it was 10 days-but 9 when the translation was completed-9 was entered to give accuracy to the information.

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  11. There are similar sites all around Mexico, the bad guys have won a battle, and it's really sad that he had to close VxT, but this will only make everyone wiser, more careful and stronger. This can't be stopped.

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  12. only thing good about mexico is the food. screw the rest

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    1. You know if that's the way you feel the rest of us here would not be bothered one but if you never visited us again. We are here in BB because we love MX and want things to change so take your no caring ass and move on to another website!

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    2. I can understand why he pulled the plug what if it was your family that was threatened and you know they would find them.you dont know what u would do if u never walked in those shoes

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  13. I really fell sorry for you Mexico.
    Such a beautiful country. Such nice people.
    So sad.

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    1. We dont need the pity of idiots

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  14. You play with fire and your bound to get burned.

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  15. http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2013/04/08/892823

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  16. With that govt's ban on reporting on narcos in conjunction with the narco's ban, thus go the Mxn people into a dire form of slavery ... Slaves to the narcos. SLAVES. ESCLAVOS. A people who lives mean nothing to those who deem themselves as owners.

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    1. What do you mean 'thus'?..this is a drug war site, not bible preach.

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    2. @April 10, 7:45 AM...The word "thus" is not a Biblical word you moron...Semi literate buggers acting like smart pants...Go finish school and then comment.

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    3. BFD!!! If thats all u can find wrong with this whole scenario is a stupid little word he used then get the fuck off this site and go back to your english class and stop knitpicking

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  17. dear admin some of us for various reasons can't risk getting registered to post in forum. that said is their any possibility of having some area on this blog site that does not involve piggybacking onto main page?

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  18. ey chivis why dnt yu put up the article of chapó isidros bloody sinaloa weekend n his new Picture it would b a guud read

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  19. Oh stop sulking and get back to work,fk CDG!!!! they aint that smart.

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  20. Worry about us ? WOrry about yourself. Why are you innocent people bringing heat upon yourself and your families ? Don't become casualties of this war . I understand you get wrapped up in this sh*t. But don't let the big picture escape. You become engulfed in this ongoing story. It will never change no matter whose at the top or bottom its a never ending battle. Only God can change this. No nation , no army or administration. If you think you are making headway in this war you are very very very wrong. You know what your up against. Even then you don't know. Go sit with the UN. Go sit with these puppets. They are your proof. Why jeopardize your lives and your childrens or loved ones ? It's a lost cause. If it wasn't mexico it would be another country. This is a war of spirits and money not drugs , not addictions. This was foretold. We are only seeing the beginning. I live in the U.S. Texas. I love Texas . But the grip of the Govt. and State is slippin. Money speaks the loudes of all tongues. Just accept it. You have no power. Go get Chapo , go get Z40. They got Osiel , They got Pablo , They got the Beltrans, Ochoas, CAF, look at it, all the big ones, go back to the Gambinos, Marranzano, Capone all of them . Tell me wtf changed ? Territory, Families, did the crime stop ? No because of corruption, Money Money Money Money. We are all imperfect which means even the highest politician or general will crack. Pointless. Why put your name out there if your a journalist ? Your just getting caught up in the stupidity. Unless you want to be stupid . Just dumb to do that. Don't be something you are not. Be quiet.

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    1. There is no god

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    2. You have obviously lost the will to live and fight the fight.u might as well just go look for a narco and say gee i give up go ahead and behead me as you guys win.what kind of shit is that? And youre right god will get tired of all the ugliness and put an end to it you better believe that

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  21. Most of you people want a bloody show or shootout. Sad. Those are real people losing their lives. Because they are cornered into a way of feeding their families. Theres not much else to do. And when you do find your dream theres someone there to collect. Extortion. Not long to go Mexico. Sad story in that warm country. Good People. Great people , proud, strong .

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  22. April 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM
    Oh shut up with your bullshit,who are you talkin to anyway.You dont own BB,get it in your empty head.

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  23. I bin fallowing ur blogs u guys doing great job u got all my support! !!!!

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  24. send me the links to isidro - sorry I have been so busy and will be for another week or so, any help like that is much appreciated.

    Translated even better. That is how Tijuano began

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  25. yet another page administrator scared off by these people..... I wonder if border land beat is next? I hope not

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  26. The Mexican blogs and newspapers are censored by the cartels.
    Maybe the journalists should start creating "mantas" and leaving them hanging on the bridges.

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  28. Rumors...of a shootout in michauocan of la tuta dead..and over 32 dead.

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  29. Is it true Tuta is dead?

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  30. Chivis. I saw isidros new Picture in mundonarco historias del narco under nueva foto de Fausto isidro Meza Flórez el Chapo isidro n it also talked about him n his new cartel El Cartel De Guasave n arm wing los mazatlecos

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  31. Dont know for sure but on some sites on twitter and some blog r reporting that there big rumors of him being dead in shootouts in michoacan.

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  32. Chivis check la tuta scene is it accurate or not??

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  33. yo chivis, them cartels are really a handful, threatening those who used social media and yet, i fear for the admin of that page's life. hope he could be safe. also, there are many pages influenced by that page like "valor por michoacan", veracruz and such.

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  34. I have been chasing the story about Tuta since yesterday, I can find no one reporting the story except mundo and those republishing mundo.

    publications have written about the rumor but say it is not true...sorry

    Vato said this:
    Sources say that the "mando" killed was Francisco Galeana Nunez

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