Thursday, February 14, 2013

CJNGs Split With Sinaloa and the Possible Fallout

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat
I have long thought "what if"...what if Letra and CJNG created an alliance. Stranger things have happened and from a tactical move it makes sense.  Presently, as it is, no one can oust Sinaloa from their position of most powerful organized criminal group in Mexico..but with these two brutal groups together it more than levels the playing field. Add a few other allied groups and hell will truly come to Mexico.  Below is a Video released today about the subject of Sinaloa and CJNG.  I have written an overview of the report below which goes with the video.


A report from Stratfor  reveals that the Jalisco Cartel New Generation (CJNG) has begun conflict  against their ex ally;  LA Corona the allied group of the Sinaloa Cartel as well as the Knights Templar and the Gulf Cartel.
The CJNG is becoming  one of the most powerful organizations of organized crime in Mexico, with their operations  now extending to several Mexican states.
During the second half of 2011 and up to 2012, the CJNG dominated criminal enterprises in Jalisco, defending the interests of the Sinaloa Cartel and fighting the incursion of their rivals, so this rupture is a significant hit to the Sinaloa federation.
The state of Jalisco specifically in the Metropolitan area of Guadalajara has long been a strategic base for the operations of Mexican organized crime. It performs as a transportation center for  drug traffickers.
 The Mexican cartels also use the mountain and rural zones of the state for the production of illegal drugs. Guadalajara is still fundamental for the operations of the Sinaloa Cartel so the confrontations with the CJNG will continue, either by them (Sinaloa Cartel) or by their allies such as CDG and Knights Templar.
This new conflict between La Corona and the CJNG, brings the question to mind ; what will be the role of the zetas in this rupture.
The state of Jalisco began to experience an increase in the levels of violence in 2011 when the zetas began to make an incursion in CJNG territory. Although up to date the zetas have maintain with a minor criminal organization known as La Resistencia, which was formed from the old Milenio Cartel,  the zetas could pact an alliance with the CJNG, join efforts to maintain  many other cartels that seek support in Jalisco.
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An alliance with CJNG would be an important hit for the Sinaloa Cartel, CDG and the Knight Templar, the main rivals of the zetas in their strong plazas northeast of Mexico.
However, nothing suggests an alliance between the CJNG and the zetas will be imminent although it is a possibility.
Even if the Zetas continue independently or if they pact an alliance with one of the other groups in the state, violence will not decrease in the state due to the conflict that now exists between CJNG and the Knight Templar, CDG, the Coroneles and the Sinaloa Cartel.
In case the Zetas continue to be independent and decide to continue with the fighting in Jalisco, violence will probably intensify. This is according to an analysis of the Intelligence Agency Stratfor titled “Mexico Security Memo: A new conflict in Jalisco State".
(Though this is a new video report it begins with footage from last year of the group)



Video also posted on Borderland Beat Forum by "AJ"

55 comments:

  1. Thank you for article...El Moca predicted this, in his interview, says Mencho went power mad, extorted and kidnapping, and that's when the banners went up signed by Sinaloa, which was probably Los Coronels, saying they don't respect extortion.

    I think I have everything straight in the region now....for the moment. I wonder what kind of deal they had for awhile, because they were frontlining Sinaloa flag with force for awhile...

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  2. So the rumors of CJNG resluting to exorting folks and doing other shady things other then move weight may hold some truth to it and being unproductive to Chapo and his group. Rumors were that they weren't together and a few guys here have posted remarks in that regard.

    CJNG and the Z's coming together would be such a weird move but as the report says it there have been weirder shifts in the narco game.

    Never ending alliances.
    No one truely owns Jalisco and that could be said for alot of territories in Mex.

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  3. What happened when Caballeros Templarios got to war with Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion? nothing, they CJNG still a CDS cell, Templarios still a CDS ally same shit goin to happen with this Corona shit matter of fact Sinaloa doesnt give a shit about Nacho Coronel's people

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    1. Its all about the Benjamins. Everyone else is a foot soldier only people on top getting paid .nacho was getting big himself and felt he didnt have to follow orders since he was a made man so they took him out when you become a threat to the people that made you such as golfos creating the zetas you gotta go the problem with the golfos was they let the z get to big they should have had a leash on em now that they created a monster they cant be controlled . Who knows what cjng next move is everybodys got to watch their backs now its anybody game.

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  4. los de sinaloa van a tumbar alos de cjng por que no quieren que les pase, lo que la paso alos del golfo con los z.

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  5. Chivis I saw this and I feel so sad for a innocent person what had become of Mexico I think it's going to take more or less 10 years or never.
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=423018791117642&amp%3Bset=a.351067014979487.81790.100002285732565&amp%3Btype=1&amp%3Btheater&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fst.chatango.com%2Fh5%2Fgz%2Fr0213131344%2Fit.html&_rdr

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  6. POBRE DE MI MEXICO QUERIDO

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  7. I dont understand how they call a truce after you chopped up my people last weekvor two months ago they could easily call truce hold a meeting and one group can try to wipe the other out I will never understand these alliances before it was about getting rid of the z now you can form an alliance cause you dont like so and so in this buisness theres no loyalty trust no one whats going to happen next week I never even heard of la corona must be a small group .

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  8. De Sonora a Culiacan y de Chihuahua a Durango de Jalisco a Michoacan las plazas estan peliando, disen que train el virus, y en su estado contagiados, unos que son de cristo, y santos inventando, otros no an podido ni con su brazo armado por eso al cartel de jalisco se a liniaro y una ves mas activo quieren eliminarlo....

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  9. Se a reventado la tregua la guerra esta planiada, lo dijo la resistencia que Jalisco va arder en llamas??? No respetaron la tregua y Jalisco no se rraja, vengan templarios, golfos, coroneles, para mandarlos en cajas

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  10. 6:50
    you mean alliance? not truce.
    But when CJNG were with CDS they WORKED for them, like independent contractors to be enforcers. Whoever CDS told them to kill on their behalf they went after. See?
    Now they are not working for them and are open to work for others, most likely those enemies of CDS as no love was loss.

    No alliance last forever. and remember who letra was with? YUP CDG...

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  11. I hope all the cartels go against sinaloa, cuz in the end, sinaloans are snitches, and traitors, look at mayo zambadas son in chicago singing like a bird,chapo gave up el mochomo, so fuck them, every protect their own state, thats why Tijuana gets respect , every cartel pays taxes.....CAF didnt make an alliance with anyone.....

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    1. Man tijuana aint nobody tijuana can get wiped out so fast sinaloas been takin hits and I say tj been setting them up its time to wipe the out

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    2. Cjng is all about extortions..they will never survive a war with Chapo. Chapo single handedly destroyed the Juarez cartel. You think hes worried about some gangsters from Jalisco? Lmao..

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  12. "los de sinaloa van a tumbar alos de cjng por que no quieren que les pase, lo que la paso alos del golfo con los z."
    lol cjng will never be at los zetas level

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    1. Otro pedejo que nomas habla por k tiene boca tu ni narco eres pinche vato pirata

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  13. CJNG split into factions and Mencho faction is backed by JAGL, the other.groups include the coronels who.were led.by disgruntled el.changel nacho nephew, who wasn't qualified for the stature,.and he fell, and the knights Templar c.u. golfo and coronels cell of.CJNG are now like cartel mFG , remember those guys, they lasted but less than 15 months....same thing here, look for a break up again , but Mencho is CJNG JAGL....and the ones warring are seperate cells independent of Mencho and tag teaming with other oddballs.....atte . ThinkTank 28.7 Narcovision

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  14. Damn Chivis you are trully a zetilla hug job, jesus!!!

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    1. chapo nuthugger to the rescue..

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  15. Exactly chivis nothing lasts forever especially in the drug biz noone can b trusted! Its only about the money nothing else matters! Its a sick game full of deceit, paranoia, deception, greed...etc etc. Ill be honest drug trafficing doesnt bother me as much as the kidnapping, extortion, and killing of innocents. Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

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  16. I guess its like the price is right game show whoever has the winning bid wins the pot.its a shame some people can be bought so easily.they should just have a damn auction and highest bidder wins the territory on a timed lease and then have another one when the lease is up and maybe nobody would die thats innocent caught in the crossfire. Just an idea

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  17. CJNG allied with Los Zetas?????.....why not,could happen,but what of the Mata Zetas? are they a separate organisation within CJNG?

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  18. @ 7:51PM

    Ok have you heard the new rule? Each time some one says I am a hugger of any cartel they have to send me 100USD for my foundation.... :)

    Seriously at least you were sorta polite. Here is the truth. Each day I get a couple comments from people that read my truth, opinion or a post authored by others and call me a hugger, or worse of various body parts of Chapo, 40 and before Lazca....even Mochomo and Chapito. Zetas cdg and cds. prob soon CJNG.

    You mistake representing news and turn of events for supporting a cartel. That is offensive for I have NEVER said, like many of you, that it is better to have one cartel because they are nicer in some way to the innocents. That is bullshit. They all kidnap, extort, torture and execute. They all have contributed to entrapping Mexico's society by fear, by terror. The have all contributed to the destruction, but more importantly halting the advancement of the society. But some have a PR that woos the hearts and minds of people, and other don't play that game and consider it a wasted effort.

    That said, blame? Blame goes to the rule of corruption. Blame goes back to the 1930s when Mexico produced its first "narco President". Blame goes to a government that did not care about the children and young people of the US as they made a deal with the devil to look the other way as they freely trafficked drugs to a nation not their own. Blame goes to the corruption that has permeated every municipality along the frontera, who BTW even the government says is 100% controlled by narcos.

    Blame goes to the corruption in the judicial system and absence of anything resembling a system of law and order. and blame goes to the good people of Mexico who sit and wait for "the other guy" to demand change, be change, and continue conducting ethically wrong actions such as selling their vote to the highest bidder, no matter who or what that person is or represents. because "what can I do? I am but one person?"

    Blame is a prejudice society that think children with dark skin or living in impoverished standards do not deserve an education or an opportunity, and now that decision gave a giant ass kick to the society that denied them equality. They became narcos, halcones, foot soldiers and more. They became a big part of the nightmare. Org crime is opportunity based, they were given a wide berth to run 1/3 of the country as they please.

    If you read the other post I have up about Valor Tamaulipas you will see that it is my conclusion that it is letra that is after the poor guy and his family. I fear his wife or child or him will have an end like Nena.
    If you insist on calling me a hugger..
    Call me a child hugger...please

    .....Paz, Chivis

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    1. Right on bravo ! On the money

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    2. You go Chivis. What you have to go through daily with all the morons on this site makes me sick. You are one of the most dedicated,honest,intelligent journalist I have ever read. I can always count on you to state the truth and in no way do you ever stoop to the level of glorifying the anomals who are involved in the war. You speak for all the innocents and I am deeply grateful. I love the part where you say call me a child hugger. Bravo. Mexico and the US need more child huggers. I am fortunate in my work to hug many innocents daily and it makes my heart melt. Once again, thanks Chivis. Texas Grandma. Peace to all.

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  19. @buela chivis

    Did you hear of the mantas left in China N.L, supposibly the mayor and 9 other men are going to be killed. I dont know which group left it, and sorry for posting it here, but look into that.

    G(-)057

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  20. @ 6:21 horribly sad. I was going to tweet it on BB Twitter page but did not see a tweet button.

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  21. Take that... dumass!!

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  22. Chivis,I agree with you wholeheartedly...people forget that the poison they push northwards is harming other's....that on itself is despicable.
    To turn a blind eye for a fast buck where it will harm other's is plain selfish.
    And then we have the other problem where the Cartels are doing whatever they want,yes as you say
    they are all killing Mexico and its peoples, there is no good cartel....they are all bad as you pointed out...some folks here cannot get to grips with that quite yet,why?.
    Keep up the great work Chivis..You Child Hugger!
    :)

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  23. I do not think cjng is no longer with cds is more like cjng split into two factions and one is la corona or los coroneles which are being helped by cts in an alience against cjng lead by mencho and still being helped by cds

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    1. And..... When la corona split
      Superior and modelo lol

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  24. Cjng has been together with the zetas for a while now, that's what everyone says on the street cjng and the zetas are the same thing..

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    1. What streets? Not what they say in Jalisco

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  25. 75% of stratfor intellegence are incorrect

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  26. All cartels split up when they lose their leaders example Osiel's capture CDG / Zetas Split Nazarios death LFM/ CT split Nacho's death La Corona /CJNG split. atte: CIA Special Operations Group 28.7

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    1. Wow!!! I didnt know that CIA SOG -.-

      Anything else we should know........?

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  27. G-057

    I am Looking for info on the story Paz, Chivis

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  28. Cjng is worthless I say take em out bola de Jotos

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  29. Wtf Mata Zetas ally with Zetas
    cdj vs Sinaloa it never ends
    whats next B.L.O /isidro clan ally with
    chapós Sinaloa.??????
    Stay up chivis
    -Al Quds

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  30. What do you guys think, should CDG and CT break alliance with CDS. Even though it highly unlikely as CT is fighting with CJNG
    -Twister

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  31. @1:14am on the streets of Coconahcoocoo and oogardeboogedah.

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  32. Cjng is all about extortions..they will never survive a war with Chapo. Chapo single handedly destroyed the Juarez cartel. You think hes worried about some gangsters from Jalisco? Lmao...................


    hahahaha wtf chaponuthugger jajaja single handlely jajaja he destroyed the juarezzz cartel jaja you mean with the help of calderon,seden.semar,and the dea helping his cartel out if they ratted out the rest of them cartels jaja and chapos ppl still cant beat the zetas ,juarez or los beltranezz jaajaja aparently mofo u don't live in mexico tamaulipaz to be exact!!!!

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  33. @Al Quds- El Mochomo already made peace with Chapo.

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  34. Chapo has made peace with Z-40 as well.

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  35. Single handedly hahaha mis huevos wuey yur chaputo allways goin to cry to his mayate Calderon to help ayee pobresito dumb ideots idolizing skum lyk this

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  36. February 16, 2013 at 11:00 PM
    Funny shit brr,heard that,,ayeeee

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  37. @9:30am i dont know bout that dude,plenty of meth labs in and around jalisco...i read on here that CJNG are split into at least 2 factions...Dont quite know whats goin on down there.

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  38. CJNG in the video look like a mob of idioto's...

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  39. these fuckin scumbags of the cjng are killing innocent people i hope these scumbags all get killed they jus killed a little girl in jalisco nd she wasnt even the target they were order execute.. but to even take a order killoed a innocent child is disgusting what kind scumbags do shit like that smh

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  40. All of these people are criminals and should be eradicated from this planet! El Chapo is a disgusting man, all of these drug lords are disgusting!

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  41. The whole reason cjng and el chapo split was because of Chapos fear of the jalisco cartel becoming more powerful than him. Its someting that hes done with all his allies. For el chapo to not turn on his allies he has to be completely sure they are extremely loyal to him.

    Heres a true story, el chapo allowed the kt to come into Guadalajara via la corona. They set up mencho and failed. What was the outcome? The forced exodus of the sinaloa people from jalisco. The problem is that chapo didnt do it earlier. Now the people that back mencho are pissed. Hence why the increase of violence in sinalo and tijuana.

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  42. At the end someone is going to get fucked over. Just How El CHAPO did with Los Beltran. He saw los beltrans were the top dogs so he betrayed them to be the big dog. And just how El Chapo killed Nacho Coronel (R.I.P) he saw he was getting big, he was controlling Jalisco not even El mayo zambada controls a state, he controls half of culiacan. Pero each Cartel is fighting for the same thing Money & Territory.

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  43. All these cartels have three things in mind...money,power,and respect.

    These wars and territory fights will never end. Just new leaders will take the wheel. They might change the name and the rules but they will still be there. Chapo doesnt really care anymore he's just cruising through life now and is waiting for his time to come and pass it on to his sons. Same with Mayo. And as far as the alliances is just to get through territories with a little more protection.

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