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Piedras Negras Erupts With Violence Up to 10 Dead

Tuesday, November 6, 2012 |

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Update 11.7.12  another confrontation last night, it follows the first post of the Monday conflict. Additionally reports of massive convoys of SEDENA and PFP into Piedras Negras.

Conflicting reports with respect to number of dead.  Lowest tally is 4 narcos (Zetas) and 2 federal police killed.  The highest number is 4 narcos and 6 federal police.  This inability to report numbers that are reported uniformly is a frustration and happens throughout  Mexico, but Coahuila is one of the worse offenders.

There was an attack on the headquarters of the Federal Police in Piedras Negras, Coahuila, which caused confrontations between elements of the ARMY/NAVY, and  Federal Police against armed commandos in several locations of the city.
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 According to the daily news Vanguardia, the shootouts occurred after the Hotel Posada Rosa, where the officers of the Federal Police were being housed, was attacked with grenades by armed commandos, which caused  mobilization in avenues such as San Luis, 16 de Septiembre and Lopez Mateos.
The daily news reports that it was informed off the record that a Federal Police vehicle was burned after the explosion of a grenade, which was parked in the headquarters in the Hotel Posada Rosa.
However, according to the diary Reforma, the person in charge of the office of the Secretariat of Public Safety of the state, Jose Gerardo Villarreal, said that the federal agents were attacked when they were driving through the avenue Colegio Militar and San Luis Street, in the colony Roma. After the attack, other confrontations and pursuits  iitiated which lead to the zona centro (downtown), which caused the closure of the International Bridge.
 Likewise, the spokesman on Safety of Coahuila topics, Sergio Sisbeles, discounted the report  that it was an attack to the hotel where the federal Police agents are staying. On his twiiter account he wrote- click to enlarge-:
An hour later he confirmed another death:
At 14:10 hours, the spokesman reported a new shootout in the colony Espejos.




Raziel Valdez, of the local channel RCG Noticias, showed images of the city after the confrontation of this morning. This is his version of the events:
 
Video translation
Armed gunmen attacked the headquarters of the Preventive Federal Police, located in the Hotel Posada Rosa, in the streets Lopez Mateos and Sinaloa of the colony Roma. At the time of this  attack, students of the 5th technical secondary school had to be sheltered on the auditorium of that institution.
Based on data given by the Attorney General Office of the State, three suspects were killed and 2 federal police agents with minor injuries. The quick intervention of the officers of the Federal Police, Army and Navy during the confrontation resulted in scuessfully halting the attacks.  These events were immediately reported  so the International Bridges 1 and 2 were closed to avoid a major problem.
(Interviewing some people of an ice cream store about the shootout)
Woman: “I was sitting there”.
a man stuttering also says: “And I was sitting there”
Another woman: “She was scared because it happened very close”
Interviewer: “Did something happen to you?”
First woman: No, Thank God nothing happened to us”
In another place, a man says: “It was awful; I was in this pharmacy when it happened”
Reporter speaking: Images from Raziel Valdez - RCG Noticias - Piedras Negras Coahuila, Pedro Jaime Valdez
IMeanwhile, in Torreon guman attacked federal police installations such as the hotel they are using for housing:


11.7.12 Update New  Piedras violence:
Piedras Negras. - The Attorney General of Justice of the State and the Secretariat of Public Safety, reported that yesterday in Piedras Negras  agents of the Special Arms and Tactics Groups (GATE), repelled the aggression with a fire weapon and killed a criminal.
The conflict began  around 11:50 hours, agents of GATES were patrolling as part of the “Operation of search and localization of the Inmates fugitives of the Social Rehabilitation Center”, when crossing the Carranza Avenue and Primero de Mayo, were attacked with gunfire from a white vehicle model Ram 1500, with no license plate.
After repelling the attack, they killed a man of approximately 22 years of age and confiscated  the mentioned vehicle, as well as a long gun caliber 5.56  Del Ton Inc. supplied with 21 cartridges and 8 tire spike strips.
Marines check commercial plaza
Almost at 19:10 hours, social network users reported the presence of armed men in a mall of this city.
Marines went to the location, in an investigation, which included inspecting businesses  on the premises, however were unsuccessful
People on twitter, pointed out that the marines were guarding several spots of downtown, some witnesses indicated on the same social network that the authority was following several suspects with long guns.
Source: Vanguardia and Twitter

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Anonymous said...

wonder who was responsible.

Anonymous said...

so whos responsable for all the violance in piedras negras

Chivis said...

Piedras is zetas plaza. It is Zs in these conflicts

Anonymous said...

why would they heat up there own plaza,silly Zetas.

Anonymous said...

Why would z heat up their own plaza though could it be cdg.CT.LL

Chivis said...

It is not narco on narco silly. Remember what has happened since the prison break. many of the dead are escapees.federal elements have not left nor state police. I heard multiple times chapo is in PN, but there has not been any reported evidence of that.Paz Chivis

Anonymous said...

Hmmm. I thought most of the violence was cartel against cartel, for territory. Now the Zs are taking the fight directly to the Federales. Strong message there. Still fearful for open warfare in Acuna. Any posters with knowledge of the situation there please keep us updated.

Anonymous said...

There are a lot more dead than they are saying. Bystanders report as many as 40 narcos killed.

Anonymous said...

Info on Guerrero Coahulia?

Anonymous said...

Son los hiJos

Anonymous said...

CT jotos heating shit up...

Anonymous said...

Hi chivis i have a question for you and im sure you have more knowledge than me here in peacefull community
why on earth this Mexicon army/navy and police don't put cameras on every street i mean small tiny hidden camera that hard to detect in naked eyes
and catch criminal by surprise
i really appreciate any comments although i like more comprehensive input but all appreciated

thanks

Anonymous said...

I spoke to someone who read a Narco Manta placed near the HEB in Piedras Negras claiming that the CDS is in Piedras Negras. I also spoke to an Aunt that was pinned in the initial firefight near a school in PN that claims that she saw well over a dozen dead and injured people on the street near the school she teaches at.

Cristero

Anonymous said...

commandos? i hear this word thrown around but do these narcos have better training then your run of the mill sicarios?

Anonymous said...

Chivis i also heard the rumor that El Chapo is in PN but I think that that is way to risky of him to be so close to the US and so far from his comfort zone. He also uses the same MO of security that the colombians used which consists of several rings or layers of security opening up around him upto several miles, i think that it would be very difficult to do in PN since the plaza is very heated after the jial break and the capture of el Celso and the amount of federal and military forces. It would be nearly impossible to not to be noticed.

Have you heard anything of a possible martial law being imposed in the near future at sundown in PN?

Cristero

Anonymous said...

Guererro Hahaha ayi es donde esta la mera planta.

Anonymous said...

¿quien fue el General de la guarnision de Piedras Negras en el 2010-2011? ese guey estaba trabajando para los Z`s Pesquenlo!!! porque le poveeia la informacion que necesitaban por eso la Marina nunca les dijo de donde venian con el mejor resultado "el verdugo" correlon con la cara abajo muerto y siempre dijo que los enfrentaria de frente antes de morir MINTIO Y CORRIO EL MAMON JOTON.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is that el z-40 and some big dogs had to pass thru piedras and the only way they would not get detected was if Cetas would distract everyone by starting a gun battle on the oppesite side of where big dogs were gonna pass thru.

Anonymous said...

I live in eagle pass and moslty all my family lives in piedras negras. There is always plently more ppl dead but they dont report it. I was their last week my grandpa died and i got to see the ghost town it is. Once a full of life place with nice ppl, not no more. N yes el chapo is taking over this plaza. The zetas are losing

Anonymous said...

Quisiera una bala en la cabeza dios me quiero suicidar mi vida es un asco

Anonymous said...

It is both narco on narco and narco vs military. CDG/CDS/CT attacked the military housing installations.

Anonymous said...

Cuz they want to let them know who the plaza belongs to...top bosses caught in piedras celso,20 aka pelos, el metro n just in this last shootout they killed david aka el enano celsos righthand man

Anonymous said...

its the zombies from the walking dead. idiots.

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Anonymous said...

No way chapo would step foot in P.N
He ain't that brave or stupid

Anonymous said...

cdg and ct in black rocks mantaa in saltillo and laredo were a war strategy ...monclova next

Anonymous said...

Do you ever notice that in all these attacks, the perpetrators seem to get away, even when there are lots of troops? A few dead, 1 or 2 captured, but the rest manage to escape.

Anonymous said...

The prison escapees were all Z 130 of them loony tunes.They are being released for a reason.They are foot soldiers on standby.Common sense tells you they get threw in hot areas and told to make attacks,some of these must know they got a 50/50 chance of going under the ground,especially when you attack authorities,but so what,these are the ones who cause chaos like this.Why this attack on the PF ?

Anonymous said...

its not zetas heating up plaza. calderon needs to wipe out as many zetas strong holds just like in juarez and chihuhua so chapo can take over

Chivis said...

Yes it is very true people in PN are reporting high number of dead, whereas the offical number has varied greatly between agencies I feel people should take the numbers as highly suspect and that the number is most likely higher. I also hear the number of federal police killed was very high. That may be a reason why they do not want to reveal the true number

Anonymous said...

Chapo is taking over Nuevo Larefo also. Chapos men openly drinking and partying at Cheers in Laredo. I know, I was there. They say Zeras are on the run and defecting like the rat dogs Zetas are.

These dudes were legit and the LT's on the USA side. I drank a few crown and Coles with them and quietly disappeared...respectfully. It was obvious they were players. Chapo making a huge push for NUevo Laredo and it only makes sense Esgle Pass goes with it.

I hope Chapo pulls it off. Zetas running scared in Laredo.

Anonymous said...

They don't mean chapo is in PN. They are saying his going to take over PN

Anonymous said...

Im from carrizo springs tx i know something bad is going on with the zetas internally i was able yo get there keys for 18k from a certain contact well all of a sudden the prices went up to 26k a key nobody wants to pay that much here at all but as i was saying the zetas not only raised the cost of that but the coyotes who bring people over are having hard times bringing people over cause the zetas raised the taxes on them as well and by the time they get over here its taking them a longer time to find anybody here to take them north cause nobody wants to make any runs for 400 dollers a head it used to be 1,000-1,800 a head but zetas got greedy with mexican side so it affectrd costs on our side from a trusted source i know on the mexican side zetas are having some serious problems within themselves

Anonymous said...

"commandos? i hear this word thrown around but do these narcos have better training then your run of the mill sicarios?"

There are different levels of everything. Your average street sicario may be cold-blooded, but not that good. He is just relentless, because he has no choice. A very good sicario - costs a lot more money ... but you get what you pay for. Same goes for the commandos. The good ones have training as SF soldiers - they come from places like Guatemala. They know what they are doing. Does that mean they were involved in this incident - who knows??

Chivis said...

Sorry folks my mistake! When we say "Chapo" is in PN or wherever I do not mean that literally jajaja...that simply means he has a presense there. If I were to say El Chapo is in PN then I would mean him, and no I have not heard such a notion. It is strange, but only Chapo name is used that way, sometimes the members are referred to as "Chapos" as well. Both cases are the same not meaning chapo guzman is making a personal appearance....sorry. Paz, Chivis

Anonymous said...

You'd be surprised!

Anonymous said...

You are part of the problem..

Anonymous said...

Makes me sick to think of good men trying to combat this evil being struck down.

Anonymous said...

Look chivis i know you all love Chapo here on bb. I was in piedras in 2010 and heard the same thing. Ppl saying chapo is here and all that bullshit cds isnt anywhere they cant even control culiacan. Sinaloa is lost along with the bitch zetas. Puro sinaloa

Anonymous said...

For all of those confused of what is happening in PN;
Chapos=cdg=ct=Marina=Gates=Ruben Moreira. (This is what we call Federal corruption)

VS

zetas=ejercito de sexta zona militar,policia federal,policia estatal,policia municipal,alcaldes. (This is what we call Local corruption)

Anonymous said...

Hey you Mexico haters post anything about the Mexican towns arming themselves? Or is that too much of a positive for Mexico?

Anonymous said...

I have a police scanner and right now I'm picking up some CDS talking about Z doing something in Guatemala??? Idk wtf just happened but now it saying link disconnected like they used a fake frequency??? Can they do that?? I live in California can this be happening here or is my scanner reaching to Mexico??

Anonymous said...

Is that truck being towed a 'monster'?

Anonymous said...

So you're saying that you buy and finance betas? Ie a customer, maybe you should be shot...

Anonymous said...

If you're from Laredo, Tx then you know that Cheer's and Las Asadas have been closed for the last 2 months, both places are being remodeled under new management. So quit lying.

Anonymous said...

"on our side from a trusted source i know on the mexican side zetas are having some serious problems within themselves"
What kind of problems?Fightin each other?Jumpin ship?
This all start with the Taliban shit or before all that.You hear things were going sour between Lazca and 40 but who knows

Anonymous said...

Wow,dont sound good for the Zetas at the moment.

Anonymous said...

Eres un imbecil ni dios nos kiere tan culos vato vale verga!

Anonymous said...

@7:26
That's why he sent people, and not himself.

Chivis said...

UPDATE: I just posted a little update of the Piedras Negras Violence of yesterday...Paz

Anonymous said...

You know when la chaparra is gonna comnpletely take over a plaza? When he kills EVERYONE that when. Look at Iraq, Vietnam, or Afghanistan. Starving people were offered money and food and still did'nt flinch to different rule. Thats just how it is. Theres always someone gonna be there to stir the pot people. All cartels are a cancer to a illegitamite territory because there not from there. People might retreat but only to live to play another day.

Anonymous said...

CDS moved in heavy, lots of boots on ground.. The police work for Z that is why Chapo had it shot up. CDS has mantas up in PN right now.

Anonymous said...

Once again your comment makes no sense, nobody hates Mexico, but we do hate people who try to stir up shit like your dumb ass!

Anonymous said...

To all yall sayin that chapos people in p.n yall need shut the hell up yall dont even kno...ima tell yall like this people on here that say im from p.n. Eagle pass that dont mean shit they dont kno...z are just at war with azules y verdes...n i been knowin sum of these muthafuckers back since they were still golfo but yea i am from piedras

Anonymous said...

@3:57pm hahaha Dude if your tellin the truth you just busted the other guy lying about him meeting CDS heavies at CHEERS shouting everyone rounds or some shit,so funny.....one of you's is lying hahahahaha....so who is it?

Anonymous said...

@11:47am when you say running scared,do you mean literally like running off into the horizon naked along the main road or what? running scared?

Anonymous said...

@327pm hey the guys giving us intel,like everyone else on here we wanna know whats happening there, and every daily added intel helps us,so quit judging yeah.

Anonymous said...

I think I been hitting the "pipa" too hard,space cowboy!!

Anonymous said...

Last I heard cdg controls San Luis potosi remember that belong to El Taliban ex zeta allied with cdg and before that san luis potosi was mamitos plaza mamito was the last of the founding gafe soldiers with lazcano to form the zeta before z40 started setting up all the loyal lieutenants to lazcano up so zetas got problems internally some zetas are going to jump ship zetas are not unified no more so plazas are going to start to get picked off 1by1. Slowly but surely zetas will start to crumble .

Chivis said...

Is anyone able to confirm massive arrival of SEDENA and PFP convoys yesterday?

Anonymous said...

I'm from San Antonio, TX, have a lot of family in Laredo, Tx . I make my living as a long haul truck driver. Between Cheer's night club and Las Asadas Mexican Restaurant and Cantina there is a huge parking lot, can hold about 25 18 wheelers or about 150 cars, so a lot of truck drivers hang out at Cheer's and Las Asadas, that's why I know is been closed for at least 2 months. Besides no cartel sob would want to hang out in a place full of federal agents in civilian clothes. One of Laredo's biggest Border Patrol Headquarters is less than fifty yards away. And young officers go there for a drink when they have some.time.off. Across the highway there is a DEA sub-station. So no chapo is going to go there. The whole city and people.from across the border knows that.

Anonymous said...

Whatever chuntaro!

Chivis said...

Hey everyone..remember if you are responding to any one in particular make it attention time and date

or it will just look like a comment flying in the wind

Anonymous said...

Nothing is going to change for the better having cdg,cds,caballeros templarios o los z's del 50 en piedras negras....they all the same way....die muther fuckers!

Anonymous said...

Hey chivis you know that in Zacatecas Chapos men are called Los Chapos and that's where everyone gets it from

Chivis said...

I did not know that 11:10PM but makes perfect sense. I always wondered why, because no other cartel refers to themselves by the leaders name.

Anonymous said...



"Hey you Mexico haters post anything about the Mexican towns arming themselves"
WHO HATES MEXICO YOU IDIOT?Who mentioned anything about that?Why don't you people fuckin grow up?
Most of the people who post story's on BB are Mexican or Mexican-Americans you idiot?
So take your hatred somewhere else and stop trying to cause divisions on a blog you clown?

Anonymous said...

November 7, 2012 7:46 PM
"To all yall sayin that chapos people in p.n yall need shut the hell up"
So as far as you know Guzmans crew aint around there?
And who shot the cops up?Everyone gettin real excited sayin CDS movin in,we need dudes who live there to tell us what they heard on the street and shit.Tell us what you think is goin on,is there any truth in this Chapo shit?Or more bullshit rumor?
Guzman must be busy,if you liten to talk he takin every Z square there is,even their home ground?
C,mon man,don't do a missing link,tell us what might be goin on?

Anonymous said...

Yea bitch thats y i said they were goin to attack the posada rosa when they killed 40s newphew(who i actually met before he got killed) dont believe me look up that post fagit n quit talkin out ur ass...its signed p.n-h-town

Anonymous said...

Yea bro like i said earlier its all bullshit its the same zetas that are doin it i know 3 hitmen that are in wit them,one of them escaped from the cereso i also mentioned to sum hater callin me a chuntaro that i had met 40s newphew before he got killed so im not talkin out my ass but yea bro dont believe everythin u hear on here p.n-h-town

Anonymous said...

My cousins lives in Piedras Negras and from what my cousin P is telling me, the Z are freaked out and turning on each other, snitching to Chapos about the hideouts and stash houses, then joining with Chapos..
Maybe he is just fucking with me, but CDS is going in full force and taking down the Z piece by piece...

Anonymous said...

@8:15pm keep us posted dude,do you see the legion out in force or is that bullshit?

Thanks for the daily news Chivis and everyone else from BB,u guys are doing an important job,stay safe.

Anonymous said...

8:15 PM
Ey man,see what i mean,since you said that we got more sayin the same shit about Guzman.Fuck do people make shit up for?Fuck the chuntaro shit,who the fuck cares.If you know shit about it,people are interested you know this,you gonna get bitches talkin greasy,but theres a lot wanna know whats going on,and ey man keep yo head down tener cuidado and keep postin on here,man you in PN,you know more than most here for a start?

Anonymous said...

@9:41PM. Uh, Cheers is NOT closed, I was there last saturday when these guys were there. You may be a trucker and drive around, I live here bro. I'll be at Cheers tonight also. As for the border agents partying, whatever...that's just crap. You not from here, you no idea how things go here. Many BP are dirty bro. Wake the F up.

I just posted what i heard and what i SAW. Period. Believe it or not, I don't give a crap. They ARE here, the ARE taking the PLaza. Zeta heavies have been prominent here Cosmo's, Cheers, AJ's, whereever. Kids of the Capos thinking they're tough crap also, hanging out at Cosmo's talking smack cuz Daddy's a big wig in Zetas. Well, I still make my rounds, they not around. They quiet and they gone. Only one reason for that bro.

So believe me or not, I don't care. Just offering info i KNOW is real and if someone takes something from it, so be it. Chapo is winning and the rest are getting the F out of the way.

Big stings on 281 2 days ago also, buddy told me every 18 wheeler moving was pulled over. Not sure what that was about but the presence of Five O is heavy all around. Just saying

Anonymous said...

why is all you motherfuckers on guzman loera's nutts , ???? his a fucken snich , matter of fact chapo is probably dead ,if his a live his just a fucken front for the calderon administration , as well as the C.I.A.Chapo don't run shit the gorvernment does. fuck mayo,and chapo this motherfuckers got not loyalty what so ever they turn in their own people, look what happen whit >Lamberto Verdugo, M-1 aka Ondeado, J.T,barbie,mochomo ect...... the list keeps going on and on.All this violence that's happening in Mexico is provocked by the fucken C.I.A fucken corrupt mother fuckers , fucken mexican's always on the gringos nutts. Mexico is not mexico, the fucken U.S runs mexico.the U.S tells mexico what to do, one day mexico will be U.S soil.
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Anonymous said...

I'm from Los Amores, now I live in Lakeside, do you mean that you go to cheers to hang out with chapos? Interesting.

Anonymous said...

You say BP are dirty, the city mayor was dirty when he was DEA in Guadalajara in the 80s, the district attorney rubio and his family are still dirty, hanging out at cantinas on san bernardo, some police are dirty and went to jail, even the police chief went to jail, named.Bovalina, 80% of bordertowns authorities are dirty.

Anonymous said...

You kno those hitmen i was talkin bout, well one of them got killed last night along wit his older brother who wasnt involved in any of that,they were picked up at BK the other two kids that were wit them were let go hell he said they even gave them money for a taxi,crazy thing is one of guys that picked em up was a zeta i dont kno if he cdg cds but his name El Tucan former righthand man of piedras negras boss el 20 or pelos,the one with the black challenger

Anonymous said...

Some fucker's lying......when i find out im gonna cut both there heads off,if you know what i mean.

Anonymous said...

Obviously know one is lying and there is a CHEERS in PN and there is a CHEERS in NL,this is the conclusion i have come too.

Anonymous said...

Pinche bola De pendejos ..PN es De CDG....sigimos chingando z.

Anonymous said...

hola bola de ignorantes entienda... alos goviernos. noles comvienene terminar con el narco esta guerra se iso para dejar UN SOLO cartel EL CHAPO esta protejido por ladea siquicieran atraparlo ya lo uvieran echo

Chivis said...

To the reader whose cousin was involved in the Posada Rosa attack I cannot see your email this ia anonymous commenting site, so I can't email you back...email me see the list of reporter up on the right? clik chivis and you will see a SEND EMAIL and it will go directly to me...thanks!

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