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Z40: Sends Messages to CDG, Taliban and Knights Templar

Thursday, September 20, 2012 |

 Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat

 Another manta message mess.   "777" of Borderland Beat translated this.  Quote of the day goes to "Milo" of Borderland Beat Forum commenting on the mantas "I read this message in Spanish and it was so uncompromisable that I was like wow, these fucking mules don't even know how to insult each other."....Milo

 



The co-leader of Los Zetas. Miguel Trevino Morales, better know for his moniker "Z40",  finally sent a message, one cannot say it was worth the wait.  Narcomantas (narco banners) signed with his name were distributed in the cities of Zacatecas, Fresnillo and Villanueva this morning beginning at the hour of six in the morning.

To CDG,  He tauntingly reminds them that all of their leaders are now dead or captured.
He also mocks "El Taliban", his nemesis, and the Knights Templar, sends his thoughts drowned in vile language.

Sorry folks, it is far from beautiful language.

Translation of Manta:


To all the Knights Templar (Caballeros Templarios) and dumb asses that have left with the stupid fag and mediocre El Taliban, you can all suck my dick. You are a bunch of fags that run in packs because one on one you all have sucked my dick and will continue to do so. You are a bunch of thieves, extortionists, and half dead hungry fucks, that don’t know how to confront me. Because when it comes to fighting you all suck my dick and are weak ass punks. You are traitors and remember he who betrays once, will betray twice, and all the times that are necessary. Till this day I have never turned in any of my partners. Whoever is doing wrong I’d rather fuck him up, so we are not traitors. I am loyal to the Letter and to Comandante Lazcano pussies. I’d rather die before being a traitor. Who was CDG are locked up. CDG is done. Tormenta dead. Mario Cardenas in prison. Costilla in prison. Metro 3 dead. R-1 dead. Sierra in prison. These were the leaders of CDG that we were fighting. The ones that remain in CDG are thieves, snitches, and pussies that are always doing stupid shit. And they're going to fuck each other up amongst themselves. El Gringo is going to want to fuck up M4 because there is no leader. What is left is secondary and third level guys and the ambition is gonna get to them. They're going to fuck each other up. That’s what happens when there is no leader to control them pussies, or I might fuck them up first, or the government will fuck them up. The Caballeros Templarios are a bunch of crystal meth addicts that are always charging avocado farmers quotas and even schools. So they don’t have room to say shit, much less talk about betrayals and shit like that. They are the same and they are killing each other. You already saw what happened with Chango and El Chayo and they're killing each other. So to me they are a bunch of fucked retards that get together because they ain’t worth a fuck by themselves. And even together they "suck my dick"! What fucking United Cartels (Carteles Unidos) and other bullshit names they call each other?

To me Carteles Unidos = eggs.

Carteles Unidos = scrambled eggs

So my message to the few dumb fucks that are left against the Letter from CDG, Caballeros Templarios and El Taliban is the following…

 
SUCK MY DICK ATTE: YOUR DADDY Z-40
WEAK ASS PUNKS*
 
 * The manta had this at the end "PUTITOS DE AGUA" I am not familiar with that expression, anyone? (Bitches of water)

Thank you Badanov & MP
SPANISH TEXT   LINK HERE   

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151 Borderland Beat Comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow! Clears up a lot! Lazcano is still alive and z-40 still is second in command.

Anonymous said...

Can we see what the original manta says first?? It seems like you added and pumped up the manta more than what it really is.. I was trying to read what it said on the picture, but its too small... Maybe we can help you out, no disrespect on how you wrote it.. just wanna compared for myself

Anonymous said...

I think Z40 is taking this whole El Taliban business rather well...

Anonymous said...

i dont understand how they expect people to be able to read this stuff when they post in such small letters on a banner held across a busy street

Anonymous said...

SPLENDID!

Anonymous said...

If this message is really from Z-40, It is a weak ass message. He should of hired Obama's Democratic Campaign to write it instead. They would of tore it up.

Scrambled eggs? Dumb asses? Stupid fag? Weak ass punks? Suck my dick?

In English, This message sounds like a joke. It cannot be from Z-40.

No fucken Guey.

(AJ)

Anonymous said...

Great translation, except for the fact that guero wants to bring m-1 in, not kill him cause they don't have other leaders. Also ít would seem that a non- mexican wrote the banner, coño and follando is usually not used in Mexico, specially up north. Coño is used a lot in Cuba and Venezuela, also it's full of errors in Spanish.

Anonymous said...

It's bizarre that a man thinks it's macho to brag about his subordinates sucking his dick. Quite gross actually.....Are they the gay cartel? these people are animals..hard to believe they can influence high ranking officials the way they do. Mexico needs kill teams, black opps types and just wipe out these people, but from my exp in Mexico, it's a way of life for an enormous segment of society.

Anonymous said...

Fuck you 40, can't wait to see you get your head chopped off, h

Anonymous said...

Well...I guess he isn't too worried...

Anonymous said...

Funny ass manta. the last part of the eggs was lost in translation. He ment his balls

Anonymous said...

If its really z40 he let everyone know whatz upz

DFL said...

What Silly Childish Bull Shit. This Asswipe and that Taliban Lemon Fuck must have been the 2 dumbest assholes in thier classes. They sound like little retards or at the very least 2 real dumb fuck teenagers. Why this monkey shit eater is not tracked down and killed is beyond me. He would be very easy to track- hes so stupid!! Its hard to belive that this piece of shit traitor yeilds any control over anyone. You have to be a real bottom feeder to take orders from such a fucking loser!!
Come on Copadres of Mexico- turn this filthy traitor in or shoot him in the Head if you know where he is. Do yourselves and your familes a favor. Grow some real Hombre Balls and rid your country of these filty dogs!!!

Anonymous said...

Putos zetas de mierda. La verdad ni se entendio ni madres. Pinche indio bajado de la sierra a tamborazo, eseñate a escribir pendejo"coño" haha pobre indigeno ni es de españa y el puto se la pasa diciendo coño.. Chinguen asus madres todos los putos carteles y en especial atodos ustedes pendejos alusinados que los apollan. Ni siquiera esta peliando en las calles pero aqui se la pasan tirando balas, granadas, y hasta bombas los unos alos otros. Pinche bola de alusinados. La verdad que nomas dan risa porque lastima no dan mas que pura risa! Todos juntos vallanse a chingar asus putas madres agarados de las manos junto con el CDS,Zetas,CDG,LCT,FM,CAF,La Linia,CJNG,Beltran Leyva,CPS,La Resistencia, EM y Los Carteles Unidos. Todos son una bola de extorcionistas,ladrones,secuestradores,violadores y hasta matan a jente inocente. Hojala se mueran todos y tengamos un Mexico lleno de PAZ y AMOR. Ya dejen de apollar a esa jente pinche bola de estupidos!!!

Anonymous said...

This message is weak.

But if Z-40 was standing right next to me, I would not tell that to his face.

He is one mean lil-ass-killer.

(AJ)

Anonymous said...

" me pelan la verga " doesn't always translate to suck my dick. In this text it means " you do what I say " " nothing you do affects me " etc
Pretty much saying, that he is in control
Saludos

Anonymous said...

Y'all should put up the Spanish one too!

Anonymous said...

You can see the spanish version here:

http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Zetas-Respond-to-Adversaries-With-Mantas-MANTA-TRANSLATION-td4031879i40.html#a4031976

What I translated was from the picture so they're a little different. One manta mentions Osiel the other doesn't, this and other small differences.

777


Anonymous said...

people are either thought provoked or emotion provoked. either an analytical person or someone who reacts based on their emotions. i believe it is real and it gives much insight into the man. hes obv an emotional person who reacts as such.it sounds more like hes dictating a rambling series of thought to an underling that then was ordered to go print and hang the message, not a well thought out piece of propaganda.
-BOSS

Anonymous said...

A todos los C.D.G, Caballeros Templarios y pendejos que se hayan ido con el joto y pendejo y mediocre del Talibán a mi me pelan toda la verga son una bola de jotos que se la pasan en bola por que uno en uno ME HAN PELADO TODA LA VERGA Y ME LA SEGUIRÁN PELANDO PUTOS ustedes son una bola de pinches rateros extorcionadores y muertos de hambre que no hayan como llegarme por que a vergazos me la pelan son de agua y son bien traidores acuérdense que el que treiciona una vez traiciona dos veces y cuantas sena necesarias y ahorita no e puesto a nadie de mis compañeros al que ande mal mejor le pongo en su madre antes que entregarlo así que traidores no somos YO SOY LEAL A LA LETRA Z Y AL COMANDANTE LAZCANO putos., primero muerto que una canayada

Quienes son los del C.D.G ya estan presos o muertos Oziel preso, Tormenta muerto, Mario Cárdenas muerto, Costilla preso, Metro 3 muerto, Sierra muerto que eran con los que nosotros peleábamos los que quedan del C.D.G son una bola de mitoteros chismosos y panochones que se la pasan haciendo puros mitotes y que se van a dar en su madre solo entre ellos. El Gringo se va a querer chingar al M4 por que hay un lider y quedan puros segundos y terceros y les va a ganar la ambición y se van a dar en su madre, eso pasa cuando no hay un líder que los controle putos.

"O me los chingo primero o les da en su madre el Gobierno"

LOS CABALLEROS TEMPLARIOS son una pinche bola de indios adictos al cristal que se la pasan cobrando cuotas a los aguacates y hasta las escuelas así que ni les queda decir ni madres y menos hablar de traiciones y pendejadas de esas por que también estan igual se andan dando en su madre entre ellos mismos ya vieron al Chango y al Chayo y se andan matando entre ellos así que para mi son una bola de pendejos que se juntan porque no pueden solos y aun a si me la pelan putos que CARTELES UNIDOS y demás mamadas que se hacen llamar para mi CARTELES UNIDOS EQUIVALE A HUEVOS REVUELTOS así que mi mensaje para los pocos pendejos que quedaron contra la Letra del C.D.G y los pendejos de LOS CABALLEROS TEMPLARIOS Y AL CORNUDO DE TALIVAN es el siguiente:
ME PELAN LA VERGA ATT. SU PAPA Z-40
PUTITOS DE AGUA

Anonymous said...

From this narco-manta,shows me Trevino is really pissed off,and he is right the only proof of any traitors is Taliban by jumping off the Zetas wagon.
Saying suck my dick over and over again tells me he has little regard for any of them(CT,CDG or Taliban)but he is very pissed off about the three forces joining together...he mocks them as bitches, gotta laugh at that.

Anonymous said...

Holy shit 40! Lol you should be a poet! Haha wow its shit like this that makes me glad I went to college. For a carwasher he sure does like guys sucking on his flesh burrito

Anonymous said...

Is R-1 dead that's what z40 put on the manta ?

Anonymous said...

Chivis, When someone says a person is "de agua" that means they are weak. Like saying easy for the taking. No resistance. Like Water!

777



Anonymous said...

Arriva mi compadre!! Y Tamaulipas!!! Los contras se la comen!!!

Anonymous said...

COÑO is Puerto Rican slang for 'pussy'

DFL said...

Sept 20th 9:40
I'd bitch slap that punk if he were in front of me!!

Anonymous said...

putitos means "male whores" and "de agua" is slang used to describe something easy. something that's easy to handle. so basically, he's just saying he can take 'em.

Anonymous said...

i THINK DAT Z-40 AND Z-50 SHOULD MAKE A VIDEO INSTEAD OF DIZ RETARDED SO CALL NARCO MANTAS AKA LOKO

Anonymous said...

R-1 is dead?

Anonymous said...

Agua is the Z code name for the Marines - ay viene el agua=here comes the Marines

Anonymous said...

Wow, Lazcano is really still alive? I thought it was Lazcano and Taliban vs Trevino..... Well this will be interesting.

Anonymous said...

That us so funny how z40 claims he never betrayed anyone all the former leaders he set up to get caught that were loyal to lazcano I know lazcano cant believe that with all the BS z40 is capable of lazcano has to choose sides ride on his own and align with some one else or stay zeta but eliminate z40 if not z40 will back stab lazcano any chance hes gets and be the real leader of the z I kno lazcano has to see this coming eliminate 40 also lazcano has to send message of his own.

Anonymous said...

where in the manta does it say coño or follando? I understood it perfectly. Alot of it is slang n gets lost in translation. As for pelame la verga it dsnt translate to suck my dick literatly...same as when someone says kiss my ass translated to spanish it dsnt make sense n sounds homo. Sounds like forty aint sweating..how many mantas have we seen since about 02 from this n that group saying theyre coming for him n bla bla bla n hes still here calling shots. Sure his day will come same as everybody elses...even chapos. Like it or not this is one bad mf n its gonna take more than a video from ct n mantas from cdg n 50 to scare this fuckin phsyco. Just look what happened to diablo.

Chivis said...

FOR SPANISH VERSION LINK IS AT BOTTOM TEXCOCO BLOG NARCOMEXICO.JUST LINK THE HYPER LINK GOES RIGHT TO IT....

the slang for marina makes sense in this context. see we have three different interpretations so far.
as for:
" me pelan la verga " yep I realize that and shared that with 777 but honestly some people say as in the translation, i think we are splitting hairs.... thanks everyone

Anonymous said...

Sigue Juarez. Cuidado.

Anonymous said...

Every dog has its day...some sooner than others...while the ones that know how to do business like gentlemen sit back and wait for the midst of smoke and fog to pass by. Starr county to houston. Fuck 40.

Anonymous said...

Lazcano is the most powerful and one of the smartest men in mexico. He knows how to keep his dogs under control and at the same time keep himself low he is a myth he can be right in your face and you'd never know he's not a pussy like el mayo running through the mountains moving every day with countless body guards, he moves mostly alone in places he wants to be his personality is such as he doesn't need to pay people to not snitch him he's so respectful and you feel dominated just speaking to him. He learned alot from the boss Z-1 before he died. He stays humble he doesn't roll around in convoys like z40 or lambos and ferarris like chapo and mayos kids. I'm not riding anyone's churro here I'm just telling what I know as I know alot of you wonder what he's like etc. he doesn't have a killer look about him and I think that's why he's gotten so far. He doesn't get add hurt over anything he would never throw out a manta like this he's very composed and aware of if you can't immediately change a situation just leave it alone. He says that anger is only a sign of weakness. If he was still on the other side of the law he would be my #1 example of a role model for the young generation. He would have done well no matter what he did its just sad that he let z1 talk him into this crap it's like you do 1 job to feed your children and provide for your family and you can't get out. I wish the government would stop lying to theirselves and make some kind of under the table deal with them and recycle some of this money to help the people if they did that they would easily be a world power in a decade or 2. It's so funny how we look at gangsters as a sign of strength when in reality we are the strong ones the honest people that have the self control to say no to that life and patiently climb the ladder of society as we can.

Anonymous said...

It's meant for the media or social networks to relay the message.

El Tacuache said...

It aint weak if you were familar with spanish you would know that this message aint weak but rather hard. Bad words in spanish sound so much harsh and blount than in english. And scrambled eggs in spanish is huevos revueltos which is a phrase you dumbass gringo vete cagar

Anonymous said...

HA

Anonymous said...

In Spanish it sounds way different than what it looks like after u translated.. in English sounds weak but not in Spanish...

Anonymous said...

Okay, the intent of the communication is for propaganda....
The object is to read between the lines ------
First, if you read the manta you will see that the language being used is not correct spanish grammar, that gives me the impression that this is a direct communication from him, reasons being simple his education has always been limited (car washer - drug dealer) and Nuevo Laredo spanish speaking dialect is within this type of range on the colonias.
Second as per Lazcano being alive, this manta would prove little to that effect... the only purpose it serves Z40 to mention it manipulate reality into the illusion of unity....(against Taliban's unity claim) and to dissipate doubts that he betrayed anybody and still to dissipate any additional heat from authorities who might think he might be the boss.
Now as per the slag "Me pelas la Verga" has always had a universal meaning in border Mexico.....for example in rooster fights a person might tell another person this about his rooster... "Tu gallo le pela la Verga a mi gallito" the meaning being that his rooster will always come out short in the fight...the symbolic of this comes from the reasoning that if you were to pull back the foreskin from the tip of your dick, your dick is bigger (apperance wise) or mas chingona.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for clarifying that! Ahora, pelame la verga guey!!

Anonymous said...

The only proof? Why don't you ask z40 who betrayed Los Texas, El Golfo and los Zetas? Everyone knows who did it: El Judas de los Zetas.z40

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but he is lying.

Anonymous said...

Means you are nothing solid, or you have no balls, or no code.

Anonymous said...

Y tu también!

Anonymous said...

12:42
Oye verga.....
un guey es el que se coje la vaca...pendejo..
entendites que se usa la phrase con el entendido de apparencias, de seguro la as de tener muy grande...pendejo.

Hey Verga....
A Guey is the male bull that fucks the female cow....idiot..
Did you understand that the phrase comes from the symbolic reasoning that it provides an illusion...so you live with the illusion that you have a big one...idiot.

Anonymous said...

This isn't Mexican Spanish. Sounds like a Cubano or Español. Who in the hell has he got writing these mantas for him?

Anonymous said...

@ CHIVIS

HEY CHIVIS..THIS NJ FROM BB FORUM..PUTITOS= MEANS SON OF A BITCHES..SON DE AGUAS=WEAK ASS
PUTITOS DE AGUA=WEAK ASS PUNKS
ATTE:NJ

Anonymous said...

Who cares as long as they kill each other....

Anonymous said...

putitos de agua means they are weak it means he can take them like nothing .

Anonymous said...

Spanish in Mexico is not universal, you have different slangs. For instance Coastal (Veracruz) verbal language is easily distinguishable from Northern Mexico border areas and any other area per sea, the same applies for Border areas from the valley all the way to california. Such words like plebes are profoundly use in the sierra madre region and others like vato are predominate in norther Mexico like tamaulipas. Still further divides in linguistics are very distinct in certain groups such from people that originate from the Mexican capital or whom are referred as "Chilangos" for their spoken dialect. This would compare in the U.S. as inner city African american english or ebonics to rural white Alabama dialect and still border Texas dialect (Tex Mex). Given that the expectation of written communication from all this various regional groups would be non literary Spanish but custom regional slangs. In a way their linguistic dialect is one of their major asset (Intel) from other non-local competing groups.

Anonymous said...

Bueno i atodo eato onta el vos de nino del celso aki en pn coahuila

Anonymous said...

He dont care what he puts up on the manta,he knows when he confronts those bitches he will kill them all....while he has his favourite music-track playing in the background SLAYER-Reign in blood.

Anonymous said...

Trevino is very smart,he knows what too put up on the banners too attract young followers that have a bit of rebellion in there blood.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:54 what are you blabbering on about dude.
you need some el proofo,you hear...if you were in jail and you were blabbering crap like this out in the yard without proof youd be shanked. shut your loose lips you remind me of Taliban the turn coat.

Anonymous said...

September 21, 2012 12:42 AM Anonymous said...
The only proof? Why don't you ask z40 who betrayed Los Texas, El Golfo and los Zetas? Everyone knows who did it: El Judas de los Zetas.z40


dude you one stupid person,fist of all el 40 never betrayted los texas<los texas arturo,meme,el loko,and more tejas use to hummiliate el 40 when he was younger.i remember going with my father to el penal de la loma and use to see arturo el texas with all his bodyguards they use to slap 40 around but like they say what comes around goes around.years later 40 got in with los golfos he was the key in order to take out los chapos,tejas,and chachos in nvo laredo.after that el 40 went loyal with los L's in laredo and with los zetas.he never betrayted golfos you dumb fuck.most texas members are dead now or are crackaddicts in laredo texas.when i was 17 i used to work for lamema in laredo texas crossing illegals you can say for los texas and trust me this vatos were scared to cross the river cause if they would get caught by los zetas we wouldve been dumped dead in da river.most texas fled nvo laredo and most chachos got killed in nvo laredo.you should fucking get a history lesson you dumb spick.ITS FUNNY WHEN THIS NVO LAREDO HATERS ON 40 SAY HE WAS A CARWASHER,YES HE WAS BUT LIKE ANY OTHER NARCO HE WENT UP THE RANKS FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP.HAHA HE KILLED MOST TEXAS MEMBERS AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE GO ASK "ARTURO ELTEXAS"40 KILLED MOST OF HIS FAMILY AND SICARIOS LOYAL TO HIM.HERE IN NVO LAREDO ITS A WAR AND TRUST ME ZETAS AINT LOOSING GROUND.YES THEY HAVED LOST LOYAL ZETAS IN NECTAR LIMA BUT THIS PLAZA OF NVO LAREDO IS TERRTITORY ZETA.HE WHOS SAYS OR CONTRADICTS ME IS JUST PISSED CUZ THEY GOT FUCKED BY A ZETA IN LAREDO .nvo laredo is full of families who support los zetas due to da fact that most youngsters are with los zetas.golfas in laredo right now are only killin people who work in da bars,stripclubs,or anything that has to do with money.cause this golfas sicarios won't come out and fight like real men.if u want a plaza you gotta fight for it not just kill inocent ppl and make them look like there zetas jaja.i love how ppl say tat zeats are hidingn laredo jajajajjaa well come down and take a look for yourselfs to see whos wrong and right....que viva la guerra contra los informantes de los sapos,golfas,torcidas.THERE WILL BE ZETAS FOR LATER JAJAJ ATTE EL DE NECTAR

Anonymous said...

Its hard to take these written messages seriously, and not only because they sound like they were written by a 16 year old troll. Its also becasue in this situation, with alot of people fighing alot of people and no one really knows everything that is going on, wouldn`t it be effective to write a couple of fake mantas? Spread some doubt and confusion among your enemies, just write some shit, throw in a couple of names, maybe even a photo and watch people go nuts over nothing.

Anonymous said...

No, because he is hiding in a safe place. Probably in a 200 meter deep rat hole somewhere in Transylvania.

Anonymous said...

There aren't any loyalties when it comes to money & power, especially when key members of any organization get caught & work with federal agents to dismantle an organization for a reduced sentence . Survival oftentimes requires extremely difficult decisions. The bugger fish will always eat the smaller fish.

Anonymous said...

U need to learn how to read first .! Dumb ass!

Anonymous said...

Your pretty smart about alot of things I like when people take the time to spell check and use propper grammar. And just FYI Lazca is alive, he is just very well connected in the higher ups in the Mexican military, they will not betray him. He was once their role model. In Mexico there is more of a mutual understanding as to why these guys join up with the cartels. They do it for their families, and as twisted as it sounds it's respected. Even though 90% of the people hate z the people he knew growing up and old friends are faithful to him because in Mexico joining a cartel is like sacrificing your life for your family to have more. I know there are people like the sick Comandante Diablo that only care about their wallets and let their families starve and with no protection so they end up slaughtered. But Lazca is very old Schiller he'd rather have peace but he's working with a bunch of hot head uneducated drug addicted young "immortals" as I call them. They think bullets don't effect them.

Anonymous said...

So gringo alive. RIO GRANDE CITY..

Anonymous said...

I think everyone is getting a little carried away with the things that don't make sense when translated from Spanish to english or vice versa. Chill people we all know that at the end of the day that he's just insulting them and we know more or less what he's saying by degrading them etc...

Anonymous said...

Who gives a shit!! Let these bastards kill each other off. Back in the day, things were great. Guys from cdg wanted something you had. They would pay you a generous amount. Now, everyone wants to kill and take your shit.

Anonymous said...

Just to clear things up, early yesterday I had put up the text in BB FORUM. English version only... Mundo, BDN, Tex took that english text and translated it with Google or Bing. That's where the coño and polla words came from. Later they finally did their job and put up the text from the mantas.

777

Anonymous said...

@ everyone
The Spanish version was posted at 10:01 pm September 20th

Anonymous said...

Tell me this folks.

Why do grown men who profess to be fearless and ready to fight like madmen need to write these emotional Narco Notes to one another by communicating what they have to say TO ALL OF MEXICO Instead Of communicating their messages DIRECTLY or more directly to one another? ARE THEY APPEALING FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT BY MAKING THEIR MESSAGES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? !!


K banda de LLORONES!!

Chivis said...

SPANISH VERSION has always been posted on the bottom of my post simply click on the blue hyper link that says LINK HERE in blue.

It's been there from the moment I posted this...paz, Chivis

Anonymous said...

Texto integro de la Narcomanta:

A todos los C.D.G, Caballeros Templarios y pendejos que se hayan ido con el joto y pendejo y mediocre del Talibán a mi me pelan toda la verga son una bola de jotos que se la pasan en bola por que uno en uno ME HAN PELADO TODA LA VERGA Y ME LA SEGUIRÁN PELANDO PUTOS ustedes son una bola de pinches rateros extorcionadores y muertos de hambre que no hayan como llegarme por que a vergazos me la pelan son de agua y son bien traidores acuérdense que el que treiciona una vez traiciona dos veces y cuantas sena necesarias y ahorita no e puesto a nadie de mis compañeros al que ande mal mejor le pongo en su madre antes que entregarlo así que traidores no somos YO SOY LEAL A LA LETRA Z Y AL COMANDANTE LAZCANO putos., primero muerto que una canayada

Quienes son los del C.D.G ya estan presos o muertos Oziel preso, Tormenta muerto, Mario Cárdenas muerto, Costilla preso, Metro 3 muerto, Sierra muerto que eran con los que nosotros peleábamos los que quedan del C.D.G son una bola de mitoteros chismosos y panochones que se la pasan haciendo puros mitotes y que se van a dar en su madre solo entre ellos. El Gringo se va a querer chingar al M4 por que hay un lider y quedan puros segundos y terceros y les va a ganar la ambición y se van a dar en su madre, eso pasa cuando no hay un líder que los controle putos.

"O me los chingo primero o les da en su madre el Gobierno"

LOS CABALLEROS TEMPLARIOS son una pinche bola de indios adictos al cristal que se la pasan cobrando cuotas a los aguacates y hasta las escuelas así que ni les queda decir ni madres y menos hablar de traiciones y pendejadas de esas por que también estan igual se andan dando en su madre entre ellos mismos ya vieron al Chango y al Chayo y se andan matando entre ellos así que para mi son una bola de pendejos que se juntan porque no pueden solos y aun a si me la pelan putos que CARTELES UNIDOS y demás mamadas que se hacen llamar para mi CARTELES UNIDOS EQUIVALE A HUEVOS REVUELTOS así que mi mensaje para los pocos pendejos que quedaron contra la Letra del C.D.G y los pendejos de LOS CABALLEROS TEMPLARIOS Y AL CORNUDO DE TALIVAN es el siguiente:

ME PELAN LA VERGA ATT. SU PAPA Z-40

Anonymous said...

Man you sure suck at translating. Leave the mantas "as is". People on this forum can read and write both languages. Stick to posting and writing but leave the attempt of translating alone, it makes you sound as weak as the writing itself.

El Playboy said...

Puro pinche de La Ultima Letra.....vete mamar la verga del gobierno americano

El Tacuache said...

Your the funny one puto go to mexico and laugh. You will find yourself on one of these videos with your lil balls in your mouth. lacra

Chivis said...

@9:45...says "People on this FORUM can read and write in both languages"

hey genius...you have to think bigger than yourself...and his translation was good enough for BDN-MUNDO and others to use it and translate to spanish which is where the problem began..... congatulations you are the sole complaint on 777s translation...

El Playboy said...

No shit fool....pinche cobarde vete cagar en otra parte. Attn. LA LETRA

Chivis said...

CLEARING UP THE SO AMERICAN WORD IN THE MANTA...
777 used the text off the photo to create his english version.

BDN and MUNDO...did what they do best, they took his english version and used a translator to create a spanish version. translators are not something to rely on for a post, and probably they did not define the tool to create MEXICAN SPANISH and south american spanish was used. that produced the spanish copy with the words such as polla (early the text was not realeased so one had to reply on the manta photo)

early afternoon zacatecas media released the text and in the evening notimex released the correct text. see link above.....paz, chivis

Anonymous said...

Putitos de agua = Water fags, as in inmates fucking in the showers

Anonymous said...

"so you live with the illusion that you have a big one...idiot"
I have got a big one?Anyway,these mantas are always very shady,they are such an easy way to cause cain.If it is from 40,it actually makes sense.All the people talkin about grammar an shit?
He is speaking how he speaks,a street nigga?How the fuck you expect him to talk?He using his language to tell them to fuck right the way off.
These mantas only make sense if you believe where they come from?It could also be a crew trying to keep the major beef going for as long a s possible.If it is 40,the language and the meaning makes sense.Who knows with mantas,but they definitely get used to stir shit up.

Anonymous said...

Now are you telling us that la 40 was an abused child? Please take your bullshit to the Child Protective Services or the Domestic Violence Unit @ DIF. The young boys in Nuevo Laredo are forced to join the Z assholes, because if they don't do it they or their families would get killed. Nectar Lima? You don't know shit about military phonetic alphabet. If you went to La Loma is because you went to visit your number 90 stepdad. Pendejete.

Anonymous said...

Mejor usted váyase a chingar a su.puta madre, con toda y su puta letra! Puro puto joto mata niños y mujeres, pinches muertos de hambre piojosos!

Anonymous said...

Where was z40 and his halcones when they burned down el penthouse and the other strip clubs. Why is 40 brother smiling when he got his Monaco ass arrested? Easy; he snitches on everyone, 5 days later his 2 nephews were arrested in Monterrey, and only he and 40 knew about that meeting. what about el Taliban's birthday in zacatecas, only el 40 didn't showed up, only los marinos went, and they knew the exact place, 45 minutes before that el 40 had radioed that he was going to the party and that he was close.

Anonymous said...

Yeah shoot him in the head! It's that easy, its not like he has 40-60 people protecting him at all times or that when he moves its 20 trucks deep with 4-6 sicarios in every truck. Look I'm a Z hater but its not as easy as you say, the guys that protect this guy are trained just like Marines are and very well armed.

Anonymous said...

@ Chivis mundo narco had the text posted a whole day before you guys did. I am not defending them but how did they get a hold of the copy that 777 did? Was it in the forum?

Anonymous said...

@ Chivis
Are you suggesting that BB does not take articles in Spanish and translate them into English?

Anonymous said...

ATTE EL DE NECTAR .
Ey man,thanks for that shit.Whatever else fuckers say,this dude aint no joke.As you say he been there and done it all,from the bottom to the top,so he obviously aint no clown.Shit man,if the manta for real,he making it look as though he fuckin laughin at the lot of them.I always said him and Lazca are tighter than people know,real tight.This looks as though Trevino got it all covered.I wonder what the score is with the escaped from Piedras Negras?
What are they gonna be used for?Fuckin 100 dudes with shooters gonna cause cain if needed.

Anonymous said...

Guys it doesn't imply that Lazcano is alive. It says he is loyal to him. Just like people are loyal to Muhammad or Jesus Christ who have been dead for centuries

Anonymous said...

@9:45

I put this in forum for the people that can't read spanish. I'm only trying to help, not claiming to work as translator for the U.N. If you have something better, share it! It's easy to complain without offering something better.
That my friend is WEAK!

777


Chivis said...

@10:25AM- are you serious? do you see the source credit we always post for aricle we translate and post? we also post our original material and at that time we use only our name.

BDN/MUNDO (same people) NEVER give ccreidt, i don't care that they used my original material, many media blogs and outlets uses BB material, it is not giving credit and claiming it as ones own...thats what they do. 100% of the time. 99% of their posts originate elsewhere. It takes me 60seconds to find who really wrote it.

Chivis said...

@777

only one complaint about your translation, that says it all. You know what it is about...

Anonymous said...

I can't read and write in both languages, I appreciate the translation 777!

Anonymous said...

Thiis manta is shit and probably wasnt even written by z-40!why would he even waste his breath talkin all this shit! Its a bunch of jibber jabber!





Anonymous said...

I don't know why anybody is suprised with regards to Z-40's use of language? He's an educated street punk and there is absolutely nothing intellectual about him! If he was smart or had any sense...he would keep his mouth shut and not respond at all, which would keep everyone guessing.

Anonymous said...

he didnt mention chapo?

Anonymous said...

me pelan la verga means ucan peal the skin on dick back in other words jack me off , but its really saying u cant comprare to me and you aint shit

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

Killed all his family' la 40 killed only women and children, why he doesn't try to get el Texas? Arturo has been in nuevo Laredo several times and el 40 goes into hiding. why? Because he is scare like a sob.

Anonymous said...

@ Chivis and 777, please don't think that all of us are a bunch of nitpicky jerks. The vast majority of us our extremely thankful that you guys do what you do. If it weren't for you guys, we would be in the dark. Thank you thank you thank you for your courage, integrity, and willingness to put up with Internet critics. -El blanco guy

Anonymous said...

eres de agua means your scary kinda like when they say te aguitas hacerlo meaning are you scared to do it . but being aguitado means sad

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

he saying coño cause of the movie scarface hes mocking them which means he has a sense of humor and doesnt give a fuck .

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

@chivis quit enteertaining thier bullshit about the translations if they care enough they should investigate more instead of expecting to be spoon fed

tyrone-

Anonymous said...

z40 just said on the message that r1 of cdg is dead so it must be true

Anonymous said...

777
Thanks for the translation man,i appreciated the last one you did on El Molca,take no notice of a few clowns posing with their bullshit"i can speak two languages"shit.At least you do it man,and i can understand it perfectly well.Thanks man.

Anonymous said...

How many times does he need to say they could all give him "dome" ...

Anonymous said...

Here are some 'takes' on the word COÑO. You'll find other words of interest there too:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=co%C3%B1o+

Another link (Spanish only):
http://www.wordreference.com/definicion/co%C3%B1o

Notice that at the second link no matter what word you point to and click on the definition of that word becomes available to you

Same web site but this time Spanish to English--same word look up, COÑO:

http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=co%C3%B1o

Bookmark them for future use


- Sr. Scooter

Anonymous said...


September 21, 2012 7:14 AM
Your pretty smart about alot of things I like when people take the time to spell check and use propper grammar. And just FYI Lazca is alive, he is just very well connected in the higher ups in the Mexican military, they will not betray him.

It's You are. Not your. Americans typically make that mistake. Also, you have many run-on sentences and improper punctuation.
As if you know Lazca!!! Too funny!!!

Anonymous said...

On mundonarco some guy claims z40 was raped at 8 years old, that would explain the hate and rebellion in this dudes behavior and all the sexual references in his mantas.

Anonymous said...

@10:27: Jesus Christ was dead 2 days. He hasn't been dead for centuries as you think. No one has ever claimed that Muhammad is alive or any other man who died except Jesus Christ. Interesting, isn't it?

If you really want to know whether Jesus Christ is alive, you shall know. If you don't want to know, you won't know. But after death everybody knows that Jesus is alive. 'Cause He judges everyone and shall judge you too.

El Playboy said...

Y tu que pinche cobarde vete a la chingada junto con tu madre buey antes que me la cojo aki en Zac La Letra come macizo pendejo vete chingar en otra parte. Attn. EL Playboy La Letra

Anonymous said...

A few weeks back i mentioned how C.T extorts aquacate farmers in michoacan, and z40 said the same thing about them in the manta.

Anonymous said...

Call it what you want to call it lazca is the jefe of Los z que chinga su madre todo Los pinchies zeta ...

Anonymous said...

"Putitos de agua" I guess the closest translation would be liquid fags ... it's the first time I hear that phrase in spanish.

And for "scrambled eggs" ... scrambled testicles would be more appropiate... when they talking about a man's huevos that is their nuts they referring to.

Anonymous said...

(@ 6:17pm)He must read BB too.

Anonymous said...

putitos de agua means scary bitches or weak bitches .eres de agua is said because water is see through , tranparent ,so in other he saying hesees thier fear

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

What the fuck? so is Miguel Trevino a Spaniard or a Cuban?? I don't think this pendejo actually wrote this. Plus he did not make sense at all even while reading it in Spanish.

Chivis said...

@8:08PM and all

THE ENGLISH VERSION IS CORRECT
THE SPANISH VERSION WAS NOT.

777 was the only one that took the time to decifer the text from the PHOTO, as the text was not released for a few hours.

BDN-MUNDO and other narco blogs, took 777s english text and used a computer translator.
that is how the so.american language came to be.
my guess is they forgot to selcet MEXICO and the default was another country.

BDN did have the story up but for hours they had no text...until they used 777s and computer translated it. many narco blogs followed. and that is where the spanish version produced the strange usage of words, strange to Mexico's spanish that is.

If you want the correct spanish language version, see the bottom of post and link on...

I hope this answers it. If not I give up ..Paz, Chivis

Anonymous said...

Congratulations do you feel cool now

Anonymous said...

the manta did not say this.. the original does not mention R1, does not use alot of the terminology presented here... thats all

Anonymous said...

Blow it out your ass you have no proof whatsoever about anything you believe and the only reason you believe it is because you were raised to believe it. People believe what they believe based on where they are brought up so what makes it okay for you to push your beliefs on everyone?? If your god is so powerful he definitely wouldn't need any little mortals doing his dirty work for him so please just stop If he loved so much he wouldn't have made a hell just the idea is sick and twisted

Anonymous said...

Why do people start stuff how do you know if this guy knows people?? He's being nice and polite and people come with weird disrespectful comments. Why can't people just keep their comments to themselves what can an Internet fight possibly solve
God bless

Anonymous said...

You're a true asshole never bite the hand that feeds you if your such a linguist go to blog del narco pendejo.
Chupa mi churro jaja

Anonymous said...

The contents of the message were published in Spanish on a competing website, BB is sloppy for not doing so.

I did read the manta in Spanish and two things stood out.
ONE: Z-40 states that he has always been loyal to the LAZCANO (which means all the reports of break between the two are FALSE.)
TWO: it was indeed very foul mouthed messege, his most vulger manta yet; I think he's getting nervous.

Also, he rightly points out CDG leaders of late are all dead or in jail. For what it's worth, he and Lazca have endured.

Anonymous said...

El Lazca must be a real coo dude. Even Z-40 gives him props!

Anonymous said...

This manta was very Freudian, if you know what I mean . . .

Anonymous said...

Encased you haven't realize nor tryeducate your self ,all religious are alike. They have a prophet,god,messanger just likebjesus. Read or inforn your self of the difference of religions n they are alike. Itbjust how people interpret then. And thx tobignorance of some they can make thebworld burn by defying one mans religion over thebothers

Anonymous said...

Putitos de Agua is another form of saying weakass punks. Agua means weak. Son de agua means they are weak.

Anonymous said...

If and whenever Z40 is going to tell lies and hoodwink everyone then he ought to hire Obama's Democratic Campaign writers...Oh yes they will write the narcomantas in English instead of Spanish for the benefit of Americans to read it...Yeah, yeah stupid dumbass....LMAO.

Anonymous said...

Notice how no one is talking about Chapo or CDS anymore? The Zs are smart at this point, they dont want to wake a sleeping giant and fill him with resolve. They are focusing on all of the smaller organizations. Soon enough their will be a Z and CDS truce or an all out war to control all of Mexico. The scary thing is Chapo and CDS are getting bigger every day.

Anonymous said...

So thats how he found out!

Anonymous said...

PUTITOS DE AGUA refers to they're soft like water. Pura Agua is the way it's usually said. As in when you see someone that has beef with another and they're pointed out and they're not much you say, "Pura Agua."

Anonymous said...

I saw when the Mexican Marines and Soldiers removed all the narco banners. My question is: Why the Zetas or their halcones did not try to stop them? If they are so mean and well trained, why they did not engaged the Mexican military? I saw some halcones talking on their radio while the banners were removed and they did not even try to stop the soldiers, and after they finished talking on the radio nobody showed up.

Anonymous said...

Somebody said "agua" is a zeta code name for "marine" (yeah we all know it literally means "water" so, please, stop it. It's irritating)

Anonymous said...

Oral fixation

Anonymous said...

Ye,ye,ye,it means this,it means that.
777,translated it for everyone so shut up bitches.
And for cranks who whine about it,go read it in Espanol and you don't need to bitch and cry like a little girl and hurt our eyes with your pussy whining.We fed up with it,give us a break for fucks sake. Thanks 777 keep it up man.

Anonymous said...

Shut up lil kidd ,before I put ur picture and your address on here ..edahi

Anonymous said...

Right, they have endured by betraying the others! Fucking cowards.

Anonymous said...

Who you calling cobarde?? Pinche lepe mocoso... Fuck la letra.. crackheadz more like it

Anonymous said...

WTF Agua is not weak.. you guys haven't seen. Tsunami... Or when it rains so much it floods

Anonymous said...

Cortale la cabesa a tu pinche madre y hay me la mandas pa q me mame la verga pendejo

Anonymous said...

Living in a border town and hearing slang spanish like thi for years ,, I say Chivis nailed the translation...its funny how you guys share the meaning of water ..IT MEANS "WEAK"!! atl least aqui cerca de la frontera y en tamaulipas... what's the weakest of all liquids? ?gasoline, oil, alcohol, sodas,, etc..no..its water. Y mamamen la verga o pelemen la verga is an aggresssive expression towards alot of hatred, meaning you are below me..nothing of being a fag in the manta, just a lot of machismo and hatred...I understand it clearly in both Spanish and English without translaion...once again Chivis did a great job

Anonymous said...

Theres only one real religious. Christianity. But it is also divided within.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:45 the message got through didnt it, thats all they wanted,cant be having shootouts every 30 seconds.

Anonymous said...

R1 is not dead.

Anonymous said...

First of all coño and follando are not found in the text so what the fuck are you talking about punk ???

Anonymous said...

Hahaha your dumb the cartels are like paramilitary wings they also have elite soldiers so black ops teams and shit like that don't really help much!

Anonymous said...

He wants everyone to suck his dick. Probably us too.

Anonymous said...

It's time someone decapitates Z-40's dick.

Anonymous said...

Shhhhh keep this dark but "marine" is code word zetas use when there thirsty......shhhhh.

El Playboy said...

Gente like you pendejo....crackheads son los americanos... aki la letra rifa en N.L

Anonymous said...

i dont think the z is smart "for not waking a sleeping giant", i think if they wanted to fight sinaloa they would. the z is primarily on the east and sinaloa on the west and they arent in direct competition that much right now,theyre at war but z has more direct territorial issues w cdg, ct, and others that operate directly in the same vicinity. also, chapo will sit back and do his work while the others have open wars. hes old enought to know that war brings heat, heat no good for business. also why you dont hear much from them w mantas. they dont want the attention

Anonymous said...

Yeahh....Chapo's sitting back watching the fight that he caused,snitching on his dog.....practice makes perfect.

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