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Tuesday, August 7, 2012

DEA Reports Zetas in Northern and Southern Sinaloa

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DEA Detects the presence of Zetas in Sinaloa. Ranks Sinaloa Cartel  as #2

DEA documents the presence of the Zetas;

north and south of Sinaloa

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The presence of Los Zetas Cartel in northern Sinaloa is so obvious that the DEA points to a map on how the organization has expanded not only throughout Mexico but also in Sinaloa state where they have succeeded with the help of Beltran Leyva cartel, former members of the group led by Chapo Guzman and Ismael Zambada.

That coalition has caused an unprecedented war in the municipalities of Sinaloa de Leyva, El Fuerte, Choix, Salvador Alvarado and Guasave, where clashes have occurred not only between government and cartel hitmen from these allies, but between those criminal organizations that are fighting for the territories, the report reveals Drug trafficking organizations in Mexico, sources and trends that increase violence.

"There are routes that go through that part of Sinaloa and Sonora extend to, and are fought by both organizations and subcartels, and endless violence seems to exist", reports the study conducted by The Congressional Research Service, as released last month.

An example of the above statement can be seen in early May this year, when there was a clash between gunmen and elements of the Mexican army in the mountainous area of ​​the municipality of Sinaloa and Guasave, leaving dozens dead, including three soldiers.

The research also reports that violence is on the rise since the beginning of the administration of President Felipe Calderon, from 2010 to date the trend is lower but then returns with force. It also states that from 2010 onwards there are targets that were previously almost untouchable, such as politicians, journalists, Americans and Central American migrants who cross Mexican territory illegally.

"Violence is not only associated with disputes over territory or to maintain discipline within an organization. But it seems that in every place where  the Zetas advance, they do not discriminate when targeting their violence, including applying it to media workers, or even the Government " observes the paper.

The map of death

According to the draft prepared by the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the Zetas have gained control of nearly half the nations territory. Everything that drains into the Gulf of Mexico, including states such as Chiapas, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, and parts of Durango and Guanajuato.

According to Jim Creechan, a Canadian academic who has researched drug trafficking  for several decades,  the opening of the new bridge on the Durango-Mazatlán highway can benefit the Zetas, allowing them easy access to build up forces in Sinaloa.

"If they are there or not, that ability to get to Mazatlan can be crucial in the short and medium term, everything depends on how the Army monitors the area," noted Creechan by telephone.
The Durango-Mazatlan Bridge benefits Los Zetas


The DEA map ranks the Sinaloa cartel as the second most powerful cartel, which controls the entire Pacific area, except for the area of ​​Michoacan and Guerrero, which is controlled by the Knights Templar, and the Beltran Leyva cartel.

Precisely the latter cartel, which is led by Hector Beltran Leyva, is present in several areas controlled by  Joaquin Guzman and Ismael Zambada, and these areas pass through Sinaloa and Sonora, and extend to the border with the USA.
The remainder of the map depicts the state of Chihuahua, mainly dominated by the Juarez cartel, and to a lesser extent by the Sinaloa cartel. while the Gulf cartel  has  presence in the area of ​​Reynosa and Tampico, Tamaulipas.

Noted is  the presence of different groups in cities like Mexico City, Mazatlan, Culiacan, where the DEA also identifies the presence of groups operating in the area such as  Beltran Leyva.

According to the DEA, the map was completed in January this year and took six months to produce.

Windfall

According to Michele Leonhart, DEA policy expert, in 2011 drug trafficking organizations throughout the world had earnings of between 200 and 400 billion dollars, with profits coming producing, transporting and selling drugs.

"We're talking about an extremely profitable business, superior to human trafficking, arms trafficking and smuggling of diamonds, together," Leonhart explained in a statement sent to Ríodoce.

The DEA administrator added, "what we are doing now is damage to criminal organizations in their financial systems as a way to deny resources to keep producing, acquiring, transporting and distributing such substances.".

DEA's strategy includes impairing money laundering, and therefore have redoubled their efforts with the Department of the Treasury for the implementation of the Kingpin Act, and the projection is that the effort has produced favorable results.

In this respect, a recent case is that of  Juan Jose Esparragoza Moreno, Blu, including a portion of his family.  They are  included in the list of people persecuted by the U.S. Government Treasury.
"There are organisms that suggest that legalization or regulating drugs will alleviate the problem, but common sense and history has taught us that this does not happen because then the criminals would focus its efforts and migrate to other equally illegal activity" , stated Leonhart.

Kingpin Act; zero results

However, the U.S. government claims that freezing the assets of drug barons in the US and his citizens avoid establishing business relations with people  identifed as drug dealers is part of the solution to the problem, some feel otherwise.

June S. Beittel, international affairs analyst at the Congressional Research Service, and author of the report on criminal organizations in Mexico, mentioned in her report that this law, is more than ten years subsequent to implementation,  at this time has not yet yielded results.

"That strategy worked very well to dismantle the cartels of Cali and Medellin in the nineties, but clearly has not been as successful here in Mexico," said Beittel.

Other analysts agree that the strategy has created more Kingpin violence  in the country, and that has caused the fragmentation of several organizations, and therefore the violence has spread.

"When Calderon came to power there were four key cartels: the Tijuana, Sinaloa, Juarez and the Gulf. Now we see the Zetas, the Beltran Leyva, the Knights Templar, and it has influenced the strategy Kingpin, but the results are obvious, "said Beittel.

The DEA maintains a close relationship with Mexican authorities in their fight to eradicate drug trafficking networks that exist in Sinaloa and the remainder of the country.

The collaboration continues, not only as far as arrests are concerned, as we have collaborated in the arrest of several leaders of various organizations, but, for once have extradited several  in our territory to be prosecuted to the full weight of the law, "said Leonhart.

However, the sentences of Benjamin Arellano Felix and Osiel Cardenas Guillen, far from signifying "the full weight of the law." Both were seized a combined $ 150 million, and both were sentenced to 25 years in prison with the possibility of leaving in twelve years.
"The United States, with the help of Mexico will succeed in its fight against drugs," he said Leonhart, but not dwell in the sentences above lords.

According to Justice Department data, between 2010 and 2011, Mexico extradited 187 drug traffickers, including high-profile drug lords.

This is a repost found on Borderland Beat Forum, posted by Siskiyou Kid
Translation editing, photos, map and links by Chivis

KINGPIN ACT LINK HERE
CONGRESSIONAL REPORT-MEXICO'S DTOs AND RISING VIOLENCE LINK HERE

130 comments:

  1. It looks like the Zetas are beginning to overtake the Sinaloa cartel. They now control half the country. This is getting more fucked up.

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    1. All i know is that chapo will never be on top. Hes too damn short. Viva juarez

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  2. Looks like chapo is loosing control. His time is ticking, sooner or later the zetas will get him.

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    1. Lol yeah keep dreaming buddy

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    2. Arriva el chapo isidro!

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  3. If u guys know anything about chapo and mayo u will know that they haven't been on top out of just luck they will defeat those scum bags zetas! !

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  4. Looks like the DEA has made this report to go after the Zetas so that their favoured catel, ie : Sinaloa Catel takes over the illegal drug trade. The CIA have a pact with the Sinaloa Cartel to have complete dominance of the illegal drug trade & the contraband money can be used by the CIA for their covert operations in other countries.

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    1. What makes you think That
      Lazcano&z40 DONT WORK FOR
      C.I.A LAZCANO WAS BASICALLY
      TRAINED BY OUR PEOPLE/SPECIAL FORCES. I DON'T KNOW IF 40 WAS
      CUSE CHAPO CALLS HIM A LABBA
      CAROS / BUMM
      ALL CARTEL JEFES ARE THE SAME
      With same agenda. All cartel soldiers
      Are Slaves only a Few know
      I wonder if C.I.A Director betrayus
      I mean pattrayus knowns where
      El Chapo Lascano &40 are really at
      Since he gave the order to kill Usama
      bin laden in Pakistan
      he must know were all these JEFES/Druglords stay at. I mean he probably works with them I wonder
      Why the general Pattrayus would
      leave his old job and joined
      C.I.A COCAINE.IN.AMERICA
      WAS IT BECAUSE BEING A US GENERAL IN AFGHANISTAN
      WASN'T PAYING ENOUGH.
      -AL QUDS.GOD BLESS

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    2. @ anomyous August 8, 1:26AM.....The CIA, US goverment, etc are all agencies working for the big elite bankers and whichever drug cartel gives them the best deals suited to these agencies and bankers survives..It may be Zetas, Sinaloa or any other..Its an intricate web of deceptions & dirty deals..Its a case of divide and rule plus keeping the balance and squeeze the ones that dont agree with you..more than 1 trillion dollars is very big money for the bankers to just look away..CIA gets their share for covert operations..How is the CIA supplying weapons to the AlQuida militia involved in Sirya to overthrow the Assad goverment? Where is the unaccounted money for weapons coming from?

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    3. Do you really believe Osama Bin Laden is dead..It looked more like a staged operation for TV propaganda for public eyes without clearly showing his dead body and then claming that his body is dumped in the ocean..What a load of crap by the US goverment to hoodwink the people..If you lapped up this staged show then remain blind.

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  5. WHERE IS THE BAD ASS SINALOA CARTEL.. LOS ANTRAX , EL MACHO PRIETO , M1, AND ALL THOSE BAD ASS FOOLS FROM THE CORRIDOS.. HAHA.. I HATE ALL CARTELS , BUT ZETAS THE MOST.. FOR KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE... BUT GOTTA ADMIT THERE TAKING OVER MEXICO.... R.I.P MEXICO 2012....,

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  6. DEA dont know shit about sinaloa ,theres no zetas in Sinaloa ,Beltranes,Carrillos,arellanos,yes but no zetas

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    1. Its El Chapo Isidro's peoples not los zetas

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  7. The USA government runs the drug game...How can a capo only get 25 years? And most likely be out in 12....This dude was responsible for thousands of deaths in Mexico-and how many more od's in the USA due to overdoces...once again*****All bout the M O N E Y.....

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  8. Zetas might be going in on sinaloa territory but that does not mean anything, im more than sure this is a tactic, we have to understand that the gulf and the sinaloa cartel have been in this business for a long time they are not going to come down easy plus chapo has enough money to buy anyone and anything he has way to much money and power their is stratagy behind letting zetas in sinaloa.

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  9. Wtf! I thought Chapo ran shit in sinaloa!? What tha happend to Sinaloa being the most powerful cartel in the world?! Obviosly there is no divide within the Zetas, if they have their shit together well enough to make their presence felt in sinaloa then they must be ok! What tha hell is Chapo doing about this? Is his cartel not strong enough to handle the Z?

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    1. Same thing can be said about the zetas in Nuevo Laredo, Sinaloa Cartel has been knee deep in all the shit going on there for a minute.

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    2. The Beltran Leyva cartel runs shit in sinaloa too , with the help of el Chapo Isidro, he's the one that took out los antrax , chapo guzman' s people

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    3. I heard Chapo Isidro was a bad muthafucka!

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  10. Two Questions:

    1.) Have and DEA and/or Border Patrol established a link between the Zetas and drug smugglers who are operating cross-border in Arizona?

    2.) Have the Zetas succeeding in establishing any plazas along the AZ-Mex border?

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  11. Chapo started this shit by trying to take over the whole goddamn country. Now his greed is coming back to haunt him.

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    1. The z are like republicans they come out of the shit dropings in the ground. They do have presence in a lot of states but that map is also misleading. For example the z dont congrol DF or Ciudad de Mexico. LFM and the z as well as most of the other smaller cartels like The Templars, La Mano con Ojos and El cartel del Centro and even Chapos people have plazas there. Same thing with Guanaguato and Guerrero, LFM, CJNG, LOS ROJOS AND CIDA and The TEMPLARES own territory there so dont get fulled by this white bs.

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    2. Yup hes goin down

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  12. Thanks. Two articles in one. Annual world drug profits are 200 to 400..in a pig's eye. Its and interesting number though because it suggests entities at the top of the food chain are pocketing over a trillion a year.

    The Kingpin act, like allowing seizure (witch was justified in the guise of fighting the mafia in 1976), will be used effectively against people with less. Notice banking laws that allow funds to be drawn from accounts concerning real and false debts, also. Three cheers for deregulation.

    Unless a major turn around occurs El Chapo's days are numbered. Look how fast the Zetas are gaining territory. Its incredible. They are are much more effective at war and they pay. I doubt kidnapping will decrease once they gain control of the partnership with corporate entities for international distribution.

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    1. Yes, but they are also.the best wen it comes too loosing plazas and territory, hell entire states to enemy cartels like they did in 2008/2009 with Michoacan loosing it in a turf war too the LFM.

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  13. wow drug king pins getting twelve years those muthafuckas will be out before the war is over corruption is an understatement what is the government wasting there time for just like fast and furious 20000 guns sold too criminals 80000 were confiscated what was the purpose the already had enough guns

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  14. "There are organisms that suggest that legalization or regulating drugs will alleviate the problem, but common sense and history has taught us that this does not happen because then the criminals would focus its efforts and migrate to other equally illegal activity" , stated Leonhart.

    Horrendously bad argument. He actually tacitly alludes that legalization does work when he says this: " migrate to other equally illegal activity". So in other words legalization does work but because it does not stop all criminal activity it will not work? The length some people will go in order to avoid facing the truth, the war on drugs is a massive failure.

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  15. Tick Tock, Tick Tock! Chapito! Time to put a candle under the Matazetas again.

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  16. Chapo better watch out. Lazcano/Z-3 is coming for him

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    1. @4:38p.m. S.T.F.U
      LAZCANO Z-3 HIDE LIKE A BITCH TOO.

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  17. Jaja really u think the zetas will get el chapo hell no.The government yes but zetas never

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    1. Lol no not really well I really don't think they would but can you imagine if they did hope they dude just so he could know how it felt to b tortured

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  18. Chapo is on his way out. The p.r.i. Is obviously with the zetas and friends. Here in chihuahua the Cds and gente nueva are dropping like flies. Chapo has left the building and his flunkies out in the cold. I guess people we're right to say he wasn't shit without the govt fighting his battles. From ojinaga, camargo,delicias,villa ahumada to Juarez these guys are ducks in tall grass.

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  19. like i said its going to b the zetas and the sinola cartel i'm sure chapo and zambada will either leave the country or chose to get arrested it would be so funny to see one of them in the hands of the zeatas on video being be headed

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  20. So the Kingpin Act breaks up the cartels in a way and so causes fighting that spills over onto other people. Got a better idea? Now they want to contain cartel violence and curb the cartels at the same time?

    Athena posted a good WSJ article on the BB forum about cartel people using Vegas casinos to launder money. The article also talks about what US authorities are doing about it and who they are doing it to.

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  21. It means nothing. El Chapo is more powerful than ever. Looks Ciudad Juarez,Tijuana, el puerto de Veracruz.

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    1. He didnt take them out. It was chapos compadre felipe calderon, but the juarez cartel like the beltrans are still eunning their shit and from the looks of it their alliance with the zetas are debilitating chapo everywhere. When felipe is gone bye bye chapo

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  22. This guy brought this on himself the whole state. Hopefully he has a heart attack with all that coke and viagra. wheres all the chapulin nut huggers?

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  23. How much time they say the Sinaloa cartel the most powerful cartel and now it`s the second. It`s anything at all.

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  24. Chihuahua is not dominated by the Juarez cartel, it`s dominated by El Chapo, everybody know this.

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    1. Was my friend. Desde que empeso a ganar el pri aqui en chihuas el gobierno ya no respalda la gente de el chapito.. Aqui en delicias se metieron los zetas i andan matando a chingos de chapitos en meoqui, camargo,san Francisco de conchos,ect ect.tambien en ojinaga uva una balacera hoy en la manana ponte verga si no vives aqui no opines de lo que no conoces

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  25. I say annomyous is in the cartel himself
    He has too many opinions on all this. Hummmm

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  26. I've never been one to suggest OR RECOMMEND OR INSIST ON Using Technology to help resolve mankind's problem but with the daily loss of life in Mexico because of armed criminals I am wondering if there is any technology that could be used to capture criminals faster. If all guns could be generate a signal that can be picked up by a gun signal receiver. Embedding the gun's casing with some kind of a signal generator is my idea. Are there are any military men out there who can talk on these matters here at Borderland Beat?, we'd like to hear from you.

    Have any of you folks been online to find information on the AK-47 gun? Can you imagine what it would be like to have such a gun POINTING AT YOU WITHOUT A MOMENT'S NOTICE? The gun puts out 600 rounds/min !!

    For more info visit the following Wikipedia page:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47


    SenB.

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    1. Yeah Dumbass the only problem is getting a 600 round clip...

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    2. Whatever happened to the website for anonomousely marking a satelite map with the location of criminal activity in Mexico? It instructed users to mark the street in front of a house but not the house itself.

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  27. Like i said in an earlier post los zetas are the frontmen for everybody dat wants to see cds and cdg taken out. They are being backed financially by people who still got paper and plenty of it , so my guess is chapo and cds better make a truce or they will lose everything.los zetas are not divided, my guess was dat was propoganda by cdg or cds to disway recruits from joining zetas. The one thing dat is very clear is cds was helped by the fast and furious, and now dat all dat has been exposed the cia or dea maybe changing its mind about chapo.

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    1. Chapo is backed by CIA,,,,,,,obama and calderon

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    2. All cartels work for C.I.A
      Not just El chapo
      Think about it dose America
      Care about Mexican Rivalry
      all they. CARE about is who can
      Get Cocaine on American streets
      Faster.They don't care from which
      Cartel it came From
      As long as JEFES get paid and junkies
      get junk/Cocaine.
      You really think that the C.I.A is only
      on chapos payroll. Think about It.
      -AL Quds God bless.

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  28. fuk zetas dey aint controlin mex fukkk no im a US MARINE y si esos perroz controlan mex va ver un puto desmadre hell guna brake lose y va ver guerra civil n ima b part of dat i want my country free not over powerd by hijos d su puta madre q son wuebones y mal vivientes pongansen a trabajar perros. frm berlin,germany

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  29. Thanks to the reader who wrote to me. the first paragraph makes no sense in a direct translation, just a couple of words misplaced by direct word to word leaves a reader lost. I felt this is the correct message, as it refers to the map at the top which the DEA made showing where the presence of Zs are in Sinaloa. Saying it is so obvious that the DEA can point to the map and say where, not guessing. thats the point....thanks friend I appreciate your thoughts....Paz, Chivis

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  30. AT myself, 6:13 PM

    Further thoughts of mine are a 'Programmable Signal Generator' because when criminals get their hands on military guns or police guns it's important to know WHO the bad guys are and if the Good Guys's guns have been reprogrammed to send out a signal of different frequency (frequency recalibration done on a weekly basis for example) then the good guys can continue to hunt the bad guys.
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    (partial clip of my previous commentary):

    ... If all guns could generate a signal that can be picked up by a gun Signal Receiver. Embedding the gun's casing with some kind of a signal generator is my idea. ...


    SenB.

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    1. Then your implying that the Government control everything, how convient for a Dictatorship.

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  31. Yeah Zetas this and Zetas that but Zetas are only an organized guerrilla organization the real ballers behind the Scenes are and have been VicenteCARRILLO FUENTES,HectorBELTRAN LEYVA,FernandoARELLANO FELIX

    Its more than obvious the USA ALWAYS exagerrates on how powerful Zetas and Sinaloa Cartel are.

    Zetas control half of México??
    Only an idiot would believe that.

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    1. I sort of do, but i ain't a idiot.

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  32. Wow! It's official now that the DEA confirmed what everybody that is in the know already was history. You Americans are like a few months behind the action and yet you express ideas like if they were about the here and now.

    Like it or not, the PRI has a pact with those opposed to the Sinaloa Cartel. See even MALOVA, the current Sinaloa Gov. switched to the PAN and gained state control, and their bet was that a PAN president would remain in control of the country, but that plan backfired due to some underestimation on their part and some very bad political decisions, first of which was making at least 50 thousand deaths in the country look like a good thing, that would be akin to the US republicans under Bush running the economy to the ground in 8 years and still electing Cheney as a reward to the party for a job well done (hypothetical situation, before you all get you panties in a bunch).

    So you all see that there is more, much more to this than drug trafficking and Mexican federal government corruption is just the tip of the iceberg. If any of you ever took a course in the Mexican revolution you might get the gist of what I am trying to make you understand eith respect to the issues involved in this current Mexican drug war, if you have no clue then you will more than likely get a glimpse in about 6 months what most Mexicans know now, and they are behind the times at that, because most of the people involved in this crazy ass shit you all call the drug war are acting out shit that was planned at least a year ago if not more.

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  33. the only reason the zetas are moving forward is it was the mission of the U.S. to get Chapo. They put all their effort and had their puppet, Calderon, doing the work for them. Therefore weakening the sinaloa cartel. Now they need to re-evaluate who they go after. The cartel who pushes drugs or the cartel that kidnappes, extorts, kills innocent people.

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    1. The majority dont care about innocents.

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  34. chivas breaking news and it gives me shivers to think what might have happened if this had been rigged on a trail that border patrol agents frequent. look at the video and listen to where it was found.

    Bomb Squad Detonates Grenade Found In Starr County
    STARR COUNTY - A grenade found by a rancher over the weekend near the banks of the Rio Grande had been dismantled and repacked with black powder and ball bearings, officials said.

    Officials said the man called the Starr County Sheriff's Office who in turn called the McAllen Police Department bomb squad. The bomb was detonated in a remote area.

    Investigators said the explosive was intended top cause massive damage.
    http://www.krgv.com/news/bomb-squad-detonates-grenade-found-in-starr-county/

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  35. The politicos run the show;

    Don't be fooled by who's the current GM.

    Zetas are not good for business because their business models is based on civil harassment, that is something the government can and will stop.

    Next comes the 'tide', can you stop the tide? No, but you can use it in a controlled manner.

    Miss-information is a successful tool, drug trading is nothing new, and neither is government involvement on it, read some past history.

    Things are the way they are, if you get it, things are the way they are, if you don't....things are the way they are.

    Sinaloa, durango, Michoacan, Chihuahua, Tamaulipas, Tijuana, Arizona, Chiapas are all strategic parts of the money raising model, they will continue to perform in an orderly manner, human traficking is on a lesser list, kidnapings, extortion, are pennies compared to the cash flow generated by illegal substance demand.

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  36. some low life is cloning vehicles to avoid detection and to transport drugs to destinations north of the border.

    KRGV
    Search Under Way for Driver Who Bailed from Cloned Vehicle

    Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:56 AM

    Updated: Aug 7, 2012 12:18 PM
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    PENITAS - Hidalgo County sheriff's deputies are searching for a suspected drug smuggler just outside Penitas. A helicopter has joined the search.

    CHANNEL 5 NEWS learned a driver bailed out of a van just outside Penitas and ran south through the brush. Authorities found several bundles of drugs in the back of the van.

    Deputies said the vehicle involved was disguised to look like a company van from Johnson Controls.

    We're working to gather more details.
    http://www.krgv.com/news/search-under-way-for-driver-who-bailed-from-cloned-vehicle/

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  37. The cartel situation in Mexico is multi-dynamic. An increase in violence after a strategy is implemented may be be a result of any of a number of factors. The recession for example or stronger vigilance at the U.S. ports of entry or a combination of things. This does not mean that the policy should be abandoned; just re-examined and adjusted. We can examine the situation with an atomic microscope and assign blame using DNA precision but as long as there is widespread corruption, it is all useless.

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  38. RE: Grenade on Tx Ranch and Cloned cars in Tx

    @9:55...

    wow that is incredible. do you know if the rancher has a history of being contentious against narco or human traffickers? The fact it was taken apart and filled with bearings is very scarey, if detonated it would have been tragic. no way saying the rancher proviked anything, just wondering why that ranch.

    and what's with the clone cars?

    I checked both stories and there is not more than what you two sent, not enough to create a post but both very worthy stories....Paz, Chivis

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  39. wow in no other blog do you find ass many scumbag zeta cheerleaders like in here . Trully pathetic!!!

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  40. Someone very intelligent is amongst the ranks of the Zetaz.....to have so many battle fronts and still be growing across the country of Mexico, someone is spending alot of time and money in the infrastructure of the Zetaz cartel most definately,to see pple commenting on how stupid these narco's are then why the hell are they raising so much hell in Mexico.they are bloodthirsty murderer's but far from stupid...the ones in power and in control anyways.

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  41. Sen B...
    for your enjoyment:
    The presence of the Zetas in northern Sinaloa is so obvious that even the DEA points to a map on how the organization has expanded not only throughout Mexico but also in Sinaloa state where they have succeeded with the help of the Beltran Leyva organization, former members of the group led by Chapo Guzman and Ismael Zambada.

    The above is the direct translation and was the one sent to me. While accurate, better syntax is achieved by using the same words butin a placement that gives clarity. nouns, adjectives adverb placement is different in the english language than spanish. E.G. we say "red ball" in spanish you will see "ball red". I appreciate the comment from the reader and it was sent to me in a respectful manner, but I think this is the best presentation.

    I did not post the comment as I did not want to go off topic, but wanted to address the readers concern. and now yours, but lets keep on topic...ok MP?

    It is a good translation and I embellished the post with a ton of extra information, fotos and created a map of "hot spots" you do not have to give kudos but come on...lets don't take away from RioDoce's article by nit picking. There is so much to comment about seems I failed at my job if all you can concentrate on is one paragraph....Paz, Chivis

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  42. The Sinaloa Cartel is not losing any territory. You must understand that Zetas pay their employees different than Sinaloa. Most of the People in Sinaloa get paid good money to be involved in drug trafficking. The same cant be said about Zetas. Yes, Zetas have a much larger arsenal of men. But some of these Zetas don’t even really get paid in real money; yes they’ll have access to what might be available but never actual ownership.

    Majority of zetas are trained for two weeks (if that) then sent out on assignments. Then they have the select few, which are feared, these are like their special forces. Although this group is small in numbers they are absolutely the best of the best hands down. But as anyone will see this small group of special Zetas will never go into an assignment unless they know they will achieve their mission. But majority of Zetas have been involved in illegal activity before joining and are the type of criminal that are considered low class. Way too open about it

    And Because Zetas allow so many of these men to be involved in their activities. They come up with their own ways to make money under the Zeta Umbrella which leads to the Extortion, and Kidnapping, theft and all that extra good stuff. But all this has to be done without getting in the way of the big bosses

    Now Sinaloa has legions of men that aren’t as top notch as Special Force Zetas. But these are men that know each other since they were born. Most of them honestly don’t think of drug trafficking as illegal because to them its just a product and never developed a drug habit. And other than that they would never even stand out as a person who did anything illegal. They work hard and not afraid to get their hands dirty.

    And the money with Sinaloa everyone takes their cuts as the money is moving up the chain and into the hands of the main bosses. But Zetas all money goes up without being touch, then Bosses will disperse salaries back down. Of course the only people who aren’t part of this chain of command is actual small street dealers that deal to consumer.

    Also Sinaloa gunmen rarely go out of their habitat. So this is where the confusion starts, of who has more control.

    Sinaloa and Zetas both have their Disposable Foot Soldiers. And these are the men they send out to create footholds in places before actual men of importance start showing their necks around. Since Zetas pretty much have an unlimited amount of these men, they are able to send them and disburse them throughout the country better. And as soon as one gets wacked another one is exchanging his sandals for the dead mans boots already. But Sinaloa doesn’t have that luxury so when these Disposable Foot Soldiers are sent out. They are technically on an even bigger suicide mission than Disposable Zetas. But by the time these Sinaloa men have already done their job which is just get intel.

    Then government forces come in and do their job ☺

    So when speaking about actual important territory Sinaloa wins it hands down. Just like zetas got their key territory on lock so do the Sinaloans. And when talking on a world wide level I don’t even have to say who wins, YOU KNOW

    Con Permiso Del Señor

    Gizzle

    SFV and Los Angeles Area. Dub Hills

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  43. Can someone from BB hunt down the complete map that the DEA has fro territorial control? I see only the northwestern part of Mexico shown on the top photograph but have been looking on the net for the map from which the zoom was taken...no luck yet.

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  44. Breaking fucking news el z50 better known as el talivan or Ivan vasques caballero is at war with z40 also known as Miguel angel Trevino Morales Vazquez executed el commandante morro close associate of el z40 so that answers the questions does anyone know the questions im talkin about post responses then Ill give u the right answer????

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  45. chivis here is the followup on the grenade
    krgv Officials: Live Grenade found in Starr County was Altered


    Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:49 PM

    Updated: Aug 7, 2012 10:21 PM

    STARR COUNTY - Investigators are determining how a hand grenade ended up near the banks of the Rio Grande.

    A landowner in La Rosita found the explosive on Sunday and reported it to the Starr County Sheriff's Office. It wasn't until today that he learned the grenade was live.

    The McAllen Police Department bomb squad was called to dispose of the devise. They detonated the grenade.

    Jesus Garza said his nephew discovered the grenade next to the river.

    Garza said he picked up the grenade and moved it because he worried his cattle would step on it.

    "You can see the tracks in there, they come in here and they drink water," Garza said. "What I was afraid of was one of them would step on it, and boom."

    "What was I thinking," Garza said, laughing. "It was rough."

    Garza said he picked up the grenade and placed in the hole of a tree.

    "This thing hasn't been in the water for three or four days. It's been in there for a long time. I knew there was something inside it," he said.

    He said his family has owned the land for more than a century.

    Garza said he's used to seeing things and people turn up from the other side of the river. But it wasn't until CHANNEL 5 NEWS told him that he realized he had been handling a live grenade.

    "Well I'm a veteran and I do remember that we used some of these grenades for practice," he said, laughing.

    Discoveries like this are fueling concern among people in Starr County.

    "Maybe they're going to try to do like they did in Mexico. But we're not going to let them do that. I'm not afraid of them ... maybe a little nervous. I always pack my 9 mm with me," said J.M Solis, a La Rosita resident.

    Starr County Sheriff's investigators said grenades like the one found in La Rosita are used for crowd control. Officials said the device was altered. It was packed with ball bearings and gunpowder to make it more lethal.

    Federal and local investigators are working on the case.
    good video
    http://www.krgv.com/news/officials-live-grenade-found-in-starr-county-was-altered

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  46. Very interesting comments.im from el paso and we root for Carrillo here. I just think everything was fine here until chapo decided he wanted to be the king of Mexico. All he des is cause death where ever he goes. Look at murder rate before he decided to invade. Same as when he tried to take over gulf territory! For gods sake that how the zetas came about! And then in Tijuana! And he fucks over everyone who gains too much influence in his organization! To me the Beltran leyvas are some loyal and fearless mofos!their not afraid of shit and are takin on chapo head on despite him having the army! I'm not for the zetas but I give them props for sayin" he'll no chapo", I think once chapo is gone mayo and el azulejo will restore order and everyone will have their plaza and work together . I think z40 will be captured because it will have to happen to restore a somewhat tenuous peace between zetas and everyone else.

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  47. Hola Chivis '11:28 PM'

    I had no bad intentions when I wrote to you about the paragraph you told us you had trouble making sense of in an e mail you had received. To examine that paragraph for me was not for the purpose of wasting time or doing something useless, I in fact placed much importance on that incoherent paragraph but my interest was not meant to distract from the ENTIRETY of your post. As you know, Not Once have I ever complained about any of your writing or work. In fact I get upset at comments by bloggers who say that you've screwed up in your exposition of any given theme you're covering especially when they really come on strong and almost seem to be saying you should feel shame. Any comments I have written in the past about you have been to show appreciation towards your dedication, fine writing, hard work, things of that sort.

    Cheers, Que tengas un buen día Chivis,

    SenB.

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  48. As there is basically no law and order in mexico, there has been an expansion of all types of criminal activities. In this climate the Major cartels, sinaloan, will only succeed if they operate in every criminal activity possible. This tactic strengthens the zetas with more financial resources, necessary contacts and more operatives at all levels. This is the template for zetas expansion and success.

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  49. Legalization doesn't work? That isn't what the statistics in Portugal show. Keeping it illegal makes it more profitable for narcos & politicians on both sides of the fence. Keep in mind that privately funded US jails also profit more from higher incarceration rates.

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  50. DEA is trying to make the Zetas look bigger than they are to persuade the new government in mexico they are the top priority. If they choose to still back the zetas then mexico will watch its US funding go down the drain. Uncle Sam doesnt like it when you pick the other team....

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  51. Becareful What YOU post here! feds are all over this site they will keep tabs on YOU !

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    1. Hi guys have a good day

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      btw i am the chairman of the fed. Thanks.

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    3. Lol and I'm Santa Clause seriously stop with the bs

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  52. Gizzle,
    Well put, para la gente movida it's all they have known as their occupation. For years everyone around them including friends and family have prospered in Sinaloa. They know the risks that come with being involved but for so many years it was their opportunity to prosper. For them it's puro jale and that is it. They know that la droga es para un buen cerebro. The Zetas do seem to have an enormous amount of foot soldiers but as always mentioned they recruit some of the worst people imaginable. The doors were opened with the Carrilo and BLO's to clearly inflitrate Sinaloa for that they have lost alot of respect from people in Sinaloa. It's clearly a war that hasn't been won by either party. Have the Zetas entered Sinaloa, yes. But with the help of the Carrilos and Beltrans, a move that likely will cost them dearly.

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  53. Chivis-the translation is good. And you're right about getting off of topic. We get more out of everything without turning spanish majors. We're fortunate to have you here. No need to be nit picky. We more than get the gist unless we're totally challenged which we see here too. And you're additions help it a lot. So, thank you. Though the second map - not comprehensive right? Lets talk about the map. No golfos in Matamoros? I still do see them there? Unless they are poseurs?

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  54. Please clarify here

    "some low life is cloning vehicles to avoid detection-..."

    Cloned vehicle-don't get that? Stolen to give it a new life in crime-looks the same but is used for something else?

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  55. @8:28AM
    Thank you very much. I wasn't ofended but did not want to stay off topic. Ok...the I am reading that Golfos are in MM. They are the lightgreen color and light green is MM.

    The map looks pretty good but I wish they would have given golfos a distintive color, say purple or blue.

    SPeaking of maps, there is a new one that depicts which cartel is in which US city. I was excited at first and then realized it was missing the last letter, unless they are called the unidentified on the map. I wonder if I should post it anyway to show how uniformally they are present from the west to the east-north and south.

    @8:31 from what i gather they are cloning commerial vehicles. the link is in the commentors comment....paz, chivis

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  56. SenB This is third try..i was not offended simply do not want to o off topic, forget it, I have, and honestly it is fine.

    To the reader looking for the full map of the top zoomed in foto. look at the bottom, i had the full map and posted it. you can clik it on to enlarge.

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  57. Regarding the story of the grenade found close to a bank, there are more stories like this across the US. A few weeks ago they found a back pack full grenades and other explosives in a southern California city, you get stories like these every few months or so but they seldom make much noise in the news.

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  58. Having a great day '2:33 AM (August 8)' WHO CALLED ME A "D.U.M.B.A.S.S.?"

    I'll just bet that you're in the habit of calling OTHER PEOPLE D.u.m.b.A.S.S.! You can't simply communicate what you without INSULTING?! Do you get along well with others? By telling me I'm a DumbAss you show yourself to be a SmartAss!

    And what about the rest of the message I wrote as commentary, ¿wasn't worth f... all?

    I had included a link. I wish to highlight the gun being used.

    SenB.

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    1. Hey hey hey Lil child get off this website nobody cares wat your childish a$$ thinks .. Aha hahA

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  59. To the guy that said the feds are watching this site and will know what we post... are you implying they have access to our IP addresses? If so then that is scary because anyone could have it in that case.

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  60. Chapo is a trafficker ! Zetas are extorting , stealing, kiddnapping , there own people . Chapo is worried about getting shit across the border to serv the Americans there dish of drugs , zetas are taking the food out of the poor Mexicans plate . Chapo could care less , he's still the worlds #1 drug trafficker in the WORLD!!!

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    1. "Chapo is a trafficker! "Well what do you think the Beltran Leyvas are or the ultrapowerful Carillo Fuentes clan,who withstood Chapos invasion with the help of Felipe?? If they are not traffickers im pretty sure a group of kidnappers and extortionist wouldnt have lasted months against "the most powerful and influential trafficker in the world".Carillo Fuentes and Beltran Leyvas have what 4 years at war with CHAPO.

      If Chapo has 30 years in the drug game,HectorBL and Vicente CF also have about the same time in the drug trafficking business.

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  61. Everyone knows they are starting to work for the CDS.

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    1. Everyone knows that in Sinaloa they have been working for the Beltrans for what 4 years already?They are directed by Chapo Isidro in theNorth and Samuel Lizarraga aka el 14 in the South.

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  62. There is a special element about the Zetas, all Zetas are not there voluntarily, they are often citizens who are abducted and trying to keep themselves/their families alive. Yes they are all bad, but the Zetas are run by a group of intelligent mean mind messing psychopaths. The power means as much if not more than the money. The drug trafficking is a small part of this, they will do Anything with no boundaries to control there often hostage held workers. They have become movie stars in some young persons eyes. They work with the reality they will eventually die, so many are like the shooters who do mass murders, held by no conscience, they hate all that is good or pure. I know these things first hand

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  63. Hey ur chaputo does the same shit the zeyaz do but he also pays the media as well so get ur tongue out his ass. Its a propoganda war. This was published by a US agency not by a bunch of bloggers or corrido singing chicanas. All of them are shit but ur chaputo was the one who started all this crap war. Mexico is fucked for a long time because of all the weapons he brought in. Look at all the people he has killed. He started a chain reaction that fucked up our precious mexico. The world laughs at us and you cheer for the coward queer that started it. You are a piece of shit.

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  64. All cartels are scum.. There's nothing worse than cartel suckasses..all these cowards are gonna die soon deal with it. Looks like you and GIZZLE can start a fan club for chapo.hahaha..we had zetas here we thought they were assholes and wanted chapo to come and limpiar terreno. When chapo left his asshole flunkies have been extorting killing raping. These fucks are all the same. IF ANY OF YOU LOVE THE CARTEL LIFE MOVE TO MEXICO. hopefully it'll be you in the next video we see on BBC

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    1. Well said...All narcos are bastard and scum of the earth and their supporters are low life shitbags..I empathise with the ordinary, decent & hardworking citizens of Mexico.

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  65. @ 4:08 PM If you are not over 55 years old. then you do not know anything about the old cartels and how they aquired weapons and how they operated. It looks to me that you are a Z cheerleader. But you can be sure that Mexico and its people will never have a CAR WASHER monument in any mexican street.

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    1. Do they have one for the orange seller?

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    2. No, but there is one at The Oranges in New Jersey, just of I-280 between E. Orange, NJ ,N.Orange, NJ, W. Orange NJ and S. Orange, NJ, guess why these cities are call the Oranges? To many orange sellers. You can verify this info at anytime. The Oranges are about 9 miles NW of Newark, NJ.

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  66. to: Please clarify here.

    about the clone vehicles. cartel operatives on the USA side are marking vehicles i.e. cloning decals, pant and other marking so that law enforcement will not give the drug laden vehicles a second look.
    we are surrounded but will not admit it or do anything about it.

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  67. chapo has the government backing and the columbians. Lazca cant take that from him. Authorities focusing on zetas more than Cds now. Cds will win this war.

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  68. i love how everyone thinks mayo and azul are saints...they started the war with chapo, they approved it, they would sure as hell continue it if jefe loera was captured or killed.

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  69. El "sapo" is a big fan of Hồ Chí Minh... he is kicking it in the jungle room with Elvis... as above so below :)

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  70. I see it in a different way. The people of MEX. are the ones dealing with this war,not you guys that are from the states. The ZETAS are as almost as the big bosses that run our whole govt. system. If your not paying attention to the other wars, then your lost. Why bother explain my opinions or thoughts, the world wouldnt care less. Its all ready to set off. Just be on GUARD, and ready for the.Revelation. In other words, the big change.

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  71. Estos pendejos se ve que no son de Mexico ¿verdad? ya quieren enseñarnos como funcionan las cosas y tienen miedo ir mas alla de las fronteras acaso no saben como funciona esto de las drogas ya hasta hacen opiniones como profesionales y ni siquiera han estado en medio de una balacera los esperamos en Reynosa,Matamoros,Miguel Aleman,Laredo.

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    1. Y tu que mamacita peleas solo con la computadora o que, llegale aca al fondo de la colonia Victoria chapetuda, para desquintarte!

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  72. evryone keep saying dat da goverment was only helping chapo and dat only SINALOA snitches.did u guyz hear da news recently even with da help of da army BLO n zetas couldn't even take out CDS n also dey were snitching on Chapo n dey still didn;t find him,n if u guyz think zetas gon take out CDS how dey cant even take out da smaller CDG

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  73. Cmon guys lets not be naive to da facts, cds started dis war backed by pan.it would be ridicoulous for us to think cds hasnt killed just as many people as zetas or any other cartel.the facts are cds has used every dirty trick in da book to stay afloat,snitchin,betrayals,giving up its own,killing innocents including toddlers and women,remember creel chih,my point is all cartels have done the worst of da worst to stay afloat, and all u cheerleaders are plain retarded becuz unless u live da life in mexico, you all dnt know wat ur talkin about.just cuz my uncle in wherever told me this or heard dat dsnt make it credible,plus da guys living da life probably dnt have time to report on da happenings around them!!! If u are living da life well its gonna be a short one becuz aint no honor in killing for people who dnt give a shit about u or find u expendible, keep listening to corridos!!! Peace

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  74. Greetings to To the guy that said the feds are watching this site and will know what we post... at time frame '12:32 PM' (August 8)

    "NSA Whistleblower: Spy Agency Gathering Info on ‘Virtually Every US Citizen’"

    link:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/14/nsa-whistleblower-spy-agency-gathering-info-on-virtually-every-us-citizen/

    Well then, let's hope that those sneaks )those responsible for the existence of the NSA) are Well Focused on trying to NAIL the Criminals In Mexico but who knows WHAT NSA is doing and WHO'S SIDE THEY ARE REALLY ON? !

    Mr. ChileHead ;-)

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  75. Yet your gonna hear Songz on how los antraxsexuales and the Sinaloa Cartel are invincible and el chapo is a saint and a man of word *cough* bs..... its narco propaganda all you here in the USA is corridos praising this chapulin and they glorify him on radio stations and its obvious how can a radio host say quote "aquí les va una rola par toda la gente pesada y arriva Sinaloa" and play a song dedicated to el chapo its filling up there heads and some just think there superior than ppl from other MX states believe me I had one dude from Jalisco in my face telling me how they where gonna kill all Zetas nd take over Tamauilpas like if i was a Z or Gulf but I had to show him no matter where u from no one state is better (by kicking his ass) and that's a reason for the war in MX pride in ones state one cartel praising a certain state is gonna b in power because if u keep glorifing Ur state in someone else state there just gonna kick u out nd start there own cartel

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  76. The only way this shit will ever end if theirs a deal brokered between the government of Mexico and the cartels.these cartels became this powerful and big because people in the government let them do as they wanted in what ever state city they had control of. Only the government can broker this deal because they are all affiliated with a cartel. this war was started by CDS and its allies which were the politicians all for greed. If the deal would to be brokered it would be like back in the day when there was just one cartel (Guadalajara) but each section of Mexico was run by a capo. this would end all this war shit so come on pena nieto broker the deal before the zetas go in and complete take over sinaloa and teach el chapo a lesson.

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    1. ur stupid, 40 and Heriberto are in all out war with eachother. zetas days are numbered.

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  77. jajajaja me dar risa toda esta bola de pendejos que dicen que la Letra no esta en Sinaloa claro que lo estan.

    Estan Operando Bajo dos mandos unos bajo los Beltranes operando como Sicarios y Estakas de los Jefes de los Beltranes y por la otra parte estan bajo un Lider Zeta cercas de esa Region Sinalunese.

    Los Zetas que estan de ese mando del lider Zeta pasan por Nayarit y Zacatecas hacia Sinaloa Los Zetas ya tienen varios ranchos como para entrenamiento por las brechas en Sinaloa donde los Beltranes tienen control.

    En mi punto de vista Cuando la Letra entra a un estado con policias locales a su lado y mas en este caso con el apoyo de los Beltranes en Sinaloa no miro una salida de la Letra en ese estado.

    Si no cada vez van a llegar mas y mas Zetas como de apoyo y a la vez de Operativo,ponle mandan a 30 zetas de Zacatecas otros 30 de Coahuila otros 30 de Nuevo Leon otros 30 de Nayarit otros 30 de Aguascalientes a la quincena son varios ahi.

    Gente los Zetas no es como los demas Carteles ellos son mas Organizados tiene estructura Militar por eso ni con los Carteles Unidos(CDG,CDS,CJNG) pueden con ellos.

    El Cartel del Golfo Cada Vez esta mas debil hasta en la manera como reponden en sus videos ya no saben que hacer subiendo videos como matan halcones??? lol mientras el Z-40 le decapito la familia del diablo? lol y si el 40 estava en ese video algo que utedes no sabian o si????

    Cada vez ahi mas Zetas en las filas y cada vez ganan mas terreno como en el Estado de Mexico,Aguascalientes,Jalisco.

    ATTE: Yo Mero

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  78. @August 9, 2012 11:48 AM ahahaha not funny i bet nobody cares about you in the real world just a sad little person running his mouth.

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  79. us. is in trouble too. just not with Cartesian but wit war lorrds and wholecountries

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  80. OK they are there but what do they control? They are just rift-raft, bottom of the totem pole grunts doing work for whatever remains of the Beltran Leyva leadership in the area.

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  81. It seems to be an underlying fact that more than a quarter of the comments on BB are pro-Zetaz,why?.. i assume its because Chapo might well be leaking info against other cartels to the law. aint nobody from the old-school ever Rat anyone out to the Law.and there is the point that it was the Gulf cartel that turned on the Zetaz.....The Zetaz are Rotten,but atleast they dont hide it.

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    1. So that's ok then you think zetas deserve more respect ....idiot

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    2. Stop talking shit about.Narco Corridos.
      How about we talk about rap praising drug dealing.,shooting n.doing.shit just like.Mexico . We have 20k usually dead in.the usa n.its.rising yearly. Even before the.Mexican drug war murders started. In 6 years we have around now to numbers around 100k dead . That's in 6 years less then 20k peryear. We can.choose to turn a blind eye but the facts are facts. We are the.number 1 country world wide with more incarcerated per capita. Yet our population is just not as big.as other.countries with much.less crime.n much bigger. Lets not be hypocritical.

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  82. EPN esta con sinaloa ustedes cren que es casualidad que los zetas aigan entrado a sinaloa? Los zetas no train ni sercas la cantidad de dinero que tiene el chapo! Piensan lo que estoy apunto de poner, el chapo es de los viejos tiene experiencia, contactos dinero y palancas para seguir mandando orita el golfo y sinaloa estan aplacados dedicandose solo a sacar dinero y estan dejando a los zetas engrandeser para cuando entre el nuevo gobierno de mexico les den el bajon los mismo pasa en EEUU, te dejan trabajar luego te dan el bajon orita estan pescando a gente del chapo para aserlo ver devil pero el chapo no se devilita en lo absoluto so los que le van a la letra no se confien mucho que esto es pira estrategia mas save el diablo por viejo que por diablo!

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  83. F##k LOS MUGROSOZZZ
    THEY DESERVE TO DIE.

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  84. @senb
    It would be totally impossible to control all of the ak's being produced in the whole world. It does not take rocket science to build an ak. All you need is sheet metal and a few other parts.

    @the conspiracy theorists
    You guys are way over you head. These cartels don't need anything more than money, guns, and people who are coked up willing to do anything for money. It's not that complicated.

    Saludos...

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