Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

You May Want To Ignore Mexico: But If Americans Remain Indifferent, We’ll All Pay the Price

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 |

Borderland Beat

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by Andrés Martinez
When the second most powerful man in Mexico’s government, the cabinet member leading the war against the drug cartels, died in a helicopter crash.

Mexicans were stunned: Francisco Blake Mora was President Felipe Calderón’s second interior secretary to die in an air crash in three years.

North of the border, Blake’s death did not make the TV networks’ evening newscasts. A stringer for one of them in Mexico told me that unless Calderón is gunned down by the cartels in broad daylight, the network bosses aren’t interested. Saturday’s Los Angeles Times carried the news on page A-5; The Washington Post did so on A-6. Only The New York Times, exercising sounder judgment, carried the news on the front page.
Initial indications point to an accident in the Blake case, but, for obvious reasons, the possibility of foul play is being investigated. The Mexican government has had a lot of recent success in hunting down the leaders of some of the most powerful criminal organizations on earth (a success that hasn’t translated into diminishing violence or a reduction in the flow of drugs across the border). That’s why few people, anywhere, had a longer list of resourceful enemies than Blake Mora did.
              (Photo:Blake Mora) 
That said, even if Blake Mora had passed away in his sleep, the death of Mexico’s interior secretary would be big news.
(The Spanish designation for the title, Gobernación, conveys its sweeping writ.) And I can’t help but think that the death of a similarly important Afghani or Iraqi security official would have registered more on the American media-scape.
The truth is, American media elites—not to mention the man on the street—aren’t invested, or even much interested, in the fate of Mexico. When I became the assistant editor of the New York Times editorial page, I was asked if I’d been to Israel. No, I answered, and soon found myself on a plane heading for Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza, where I’d spend a fascinating week meeting with players from all sides in a long-running saga that I’d followed for years but never experienced up close. I wasn’t going to be the lead writer on Mideast editorials, mind you, nor did we lack for deep expertise on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. No, the issue was that one couldn’t be part of the newspaper’s leadership without having a first-hand sense of a place deemed so strategically important.


Mexico, clearly, doesn’t have that status. I think it should, and I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about why it doesn’t. Yes, I grew up in Mexico, but there’s a lot more to it than that. More than 40,000 people have died in Mexico since its government decided to take on drug cartels that are nourished by American consumers and armed by U.S. gun dealers. There is an almost direct causal link between Wall Street bankers doing blow or Occupy Wall Street protesters getting high and journalists and elected officials getting assassinated in Mexico. Not only is this violence undermining a democracy next door; we as Americans are responsible for much of it. At a time when the idea of socially responsible consumption has swept this country—think of the anti-sweatshop movement, the Darfur divestment campaigns, Fair Trade coffee, and so on—we take in the violence in Mexico with barely a nod.
For starters, then, the issue of our moral culpability alone should make Mexico matter to us. But, beyond that, the growing strength of these transnational criminal organizations is a threat to the rule of law north of the Rio Grande as well.
Intimidating and bribing officials might be easier in Mexico than in it is in the United States, but it would be foolish to pretend that these criminal behemoths, headquartered in Mexico but making tens of billions a year operating in our country, won’t succeed in corrupting the rule of law in any number of southwest jurisdictions.
There are also plenty of non-drug-war-related reasons why American media (and political) elites should pay more attention to Mexico. Did you know that, last year, the United States imported more oil from Mexico than it did from Saudi Arabia? Or that this safe, reliable source of oil (second only to Canada) may soon cease being a net exporter of oil, unless it embraces needed reforms that would allow for more investment in its production capacity? Given how much time we spend in this country fretting about our dependence on oil from the Middle East, maybe we should spend a little more thinking about the North American market and Mexico’s role as a counterweight to Middle East sources.
Our lack of appreciation for Mexico cuts both ways, because we ignore the good along with the bad. And there is plenty of good. Despite rising violence, Mexico is more democratic than it has ever been. Mexico is also the second-largest buyer of U.S. goods in the world, belying the idea of an impoverished country at the mercy of our generosity. Brazil, China, and India get a lot of buzz among U.S. elites for their rise out of poverty, but Mexico is further along in that transformation, with a higher standard of living than those nations, a thriving middle class, and more than a decade of sound economic and financial stewardship resulting in unparalleled stability. It’s a G-20 nation that offers a phenomenal market for U.S. goods, as the executives of any number of multinationals that rely on Mexico for a healthy share of their profits (such as Procter & Gamble, Wal-Mart, and Citicorp, to name a few) will tell you—or would tell you, if the political environment weren’t currently so hostile to the idea of businesses investing abroad.
Last week, I was shepherding a delegation from Zócalo Public Square, the New America Foundation, the Aspen Institute, and the Congressional Hispanic Leadership Institute through Mexico. We met with political and economic analysts, journalists, and five of the contenders vying to be elected Mexico’s next president. Reflecting Mexico’s traditional backwater status, a majority of our delegation—including such accomplished journalists as Steve Coll (former Washington Post managing editor), Susan Glasser (editor of Foreign Policy magazine), and Franklin Foer (editor-at-large of The New Republic)—had never been to Mexico City. I asked people on the trip for their gut, one-word reaction to the place. The most interesting (if two words) might have been “public art.” I also got “world-class,” “money,” “inequality,” “traffic,” and, perhaps most fittingly, “contradictions.”
A number of us did a TV show with respected Mexican journalist Sergio Sarmiento (whose network, TV Azteca, is part of the Salinas Group, our host in Mexico City and at the Ciudad de las Ideas conference in Puebla) on the question of whether Mexico matters to the United States. (We agreed that it should matter but doesn’t—an answer at odds with the notion many Mexicans have of U.S. elites eager to micromanage their nation’s destiny.) I insisted that this would change over time (for one thing, we have a least 15 million U.S. residents who were born in Mexico), but frankly I am not so sure.
There are many reasons Mexico punches below its weight in the collective mindshare of U.S. elites. One underappreciated reason is that, despite present anxieties over drugs and immigration, Mexico has been a fairly desirable neighbor. Even after the United States annexed half of its territory, Mexico has been a peaceful, sensible neighbor for most of our shared history. The United States has had the rare luxury, for a continental power, of not having to deploy large armies to secure its borders throughout history. Thanks to Canada and Mexico, we could behave like an island nation.

American elites, too, have had the luxury of ignoring Mexico, and proximity has bred contempt. Had our neighbor been more of a threat (imagine if Mexican terrorist suicide bombers made it a habit of crossing the border to reclaim California or Arizona), generations of our best and brightest would have been attracted to the study of Spanish and Mexico, the way they once were drawn to Russia and are now drawn to the Middle East. Meanwhile, for vast majorities of Americans, impressions of Mexico are formed by the flows of drugs and migrant workers—with maybe a stint at a Mexican beach resort. And, speaking of immigration, you may not have noticed the underreported story that the flow of immigrants has nearly ceased as the job market has constricted in this country (they really do come to work).

The story down south is decidedly mixed—one of many positive trends imperiled by rising violence and a lingering authoritarian political culture. Our delegation’s talks with leading politicians were disheartening on many topics, but heartening insofar as they seem less obsessed than ever with what the United States is or isn’t doing to Mexico.

Now we just need American elites to become a little more obsessed with what is happening south of the border. There is an imperative, and an opportunity, to start thinking more strategically about North American development and competitiveness. Mexico is an important, if underappreciated, partner for a number of positive reasons. And, if all hell breaks loose there, the United States, simply by having the power to have been a better (and less drug-ravenous) neighbor, will bear a large part of the blame. That’s another reason to start paying closer attention .
Source: Zocalo Public Square

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Anonymous said...

The propaganda machine keeps on spinning ... YES INDEED it is time to wake up to reality:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152715628181.html

The US wants to control the drug trade NOT stop it!

Tv Miller said...

There's always this clause to this drug war that labels the cost of life as 40K plus the unknowns uping to 70K BUT, if there is this hidden factor of 30K now, was this not a reality before this was more obvious?

Cartels have competed forever, lives have been lost most certainly, so why does one lean on the government as a catalyst when the cartels likely had high unknown or publicized totals prior to Calderon?

Will you admit there were deaths before the government stop appeasing the cartels?

Anonymous said...

Welcome to america! haha We dont hear about mexico on US television, we got enough prroblems in our ghettos

Anonymous said...

No there is noooo connection between shooting deaths and gun ownership duuuuuh
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2012/jan/27/jim-moran/rep-jim-moran-says-us-gun-homicide-rate-20-times-h/

... and the worst thing: the Americans all have guns and still they live in a 2 party state ... you would think that with the guns at least they would be able to ensure a truly democratic multi-party state ... but alas nooooo

Anonymous said...

I don't think the US wants to control the drug trade, I think they prefer the cartel to do the dirty work. The US just wants the billions of drug money laundered through their banks and Stock Market to continue. There are many speculations as to what would happen to the US economy if the drug money stopped flowing through the US financial systems. Sad but true I think. I will agree that there is a propaganda machine spinning on both sides of the border :(

Anonymous said...

Our News media want say anything about Mexico because they don't want the facts out about how dangerous our borders really are. Our government is to intreasted in going around the world protecting their cival rights, than protecting the cival rights of the people in our hemiphere.The United States people need to get educated on the border problems and start demanding Washington quit ignoring a huge problem that is really not all Mexico's fault.

Anonymous said...

Hey Andy, the main reason Mexico's not making the head lines, it's an election year, plus the US is trying to imitate Mexico as the second most corrupt Country in North America by letting illegal's vote for democrats. Every thing you bitichin' about can be summoned up in one word, liberalism, 30% +/- of the pop are liberal, but they control the culture (print media, t v, movies, academia, etc, including your previous employer the NYT). Bottom line old buddy, you and your other liberal friends are the problem.

Anonymous said...

The biggest, the most powerful country on the face of the earth cannot control arms or bales of money from exiting the USA headed south.

Something Stinks

Anonymous said...

....PROPAGANDA IS ANOTHER WAY OF CALLING IT "BABALYON" MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS (REVEALINGS)....

...."TRUTH IS A SPIRIT" and you cannot hide HER...

....PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT AND RISING TO TRUTH;...

....say something over and over, and MAYBE PEOPLE WILL FINALLY START TO LISTEN AND TAKE ACTION!!!!....

Anonymous said...

I'm an American and I care a lot about Mexico. One issue that causes Americans to turn a blind eye to the problems in Mexico is the influx of illegals that are coming into this country. In my view, these people...for the most part...are refugees. However, they are a burden on the middle class tax payer, who is already going under. I wonder if people fleeing Mexico would apply for political asylum, would it make a difference...would the government take more notice? Do they even qualify for asylum under the law?

I don't understand why we fight in the Middle East while a country so very close to us, in so many ways, is overtaken by killers. Me, and others like me, spend a lot of time trying to make people aware of what's going on and that it is OUR problem, too. I always say that, were Mexico and the U.S. to join forces to put an end to the cartels, it would directly benefit the U.S. in ways that would immediately be felt. For one thing, it would help to dry up the dope supply. If Mexican immigrants who come here for safety's sake could return home, it would benefit both the U.S. and Mexico economically. The list is long, but nobody listens.

I grew up on the Texas/Mexico border. It was the best. I came up loving Mexico and I will die loving Mexico. As a mother, my heart breaks every day for the families that must endure this narco war. But nobody really listens to mothers much. Especially not the media. All they are about are ratings and they get more ratings by complaining about immigration than they do from reporting on WHY people are fleeing a country they love.

I do hope that the U.S. media will take up the cause in the near future, because it is rapidly becoming too late.

Anonymous said...

weside for life

CarreteraDurangoMazatlan said...

When people ignorantly assert that Mexico is the "most corrupt" or even in the top 10 most corrupt countries in the world, they really show their lack of knowledge about most the world we live in. Get out of your American bubble and travel...or at least read something beyond the plastic headlines your watching on TV. Try the Economist, The International Tribune, BBC, Bloomsburg International or anything that reports non-agenda driven news around the world - I think your current state of mantra driven naivity will surprise you. LOL..now how long wlll it be before someone calls me a liberal for suggesting alternative new beyond Bill OReilly and FOX news :)

Cognitive Dissident said...

People in Texas are losing touch with their friends and families in Mexico. They are afraid to cross the border. Most people I know don't use drugs. There is however a drug culture in the inner cities of the US. If the flow of drugs was cut off then there wouldn't be the crime and degradation so common in the "hood".

Anonymous said...

HERE WE GO WITH THE GOOD BOOK.GIVE IT A REST WILL YOU I JUST HAD MY LUNCH. & FOR THE GUY WHO MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THE PROBLEM WELL,LET ME SAY NOT TRUE, BUT IF NAMES IS WHAT YOU WANT I WILL GIVE YOU ONE R.REAGAN.THIS CRUEL HATEFUL&LIEYNG OLD VINDICTIVE BASTARD,IS ALMOST COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TODAYS TROUBLES HIS DECISIONS SQUEEZED THE LIFE OUT OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. HE GAVE WALL ST A FREE HAND IN SENSITIVE THINGS LIKE THE AIR TRAFIC CONTROLERS &TO MANY TO LIST THEM ALL HE WENT TO BAT FOR THEM NOT THE AVG CITIZEN.OH WHO CAN FORGET REAGANOMICS HA HA WHAT WAS THAT NAME SOME ONE CALLED IT OH YEA VOODOO ECONOMICS YES GOOD OH W.POPI FIRST OF COURSE LIKE A GOOD COWARD HE DENIED HE HAD EVER DAID SUCH A THING OK IF YOU SAY SO SIR. THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEM SELF BUT YES IS THE MEXICANS & THE LIBERALS FAULT TRUTH BE TOLD SENILE OLD BASTARD DROPED DEAD 30 YEARS TO LATE SO PLEASE REMOVE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR REAR END, THE END.

CarreteraDurangoMazatlan said...

Anonymous 11:50am.
Mexico is nowhere near the most corrupt county in the world, nor is it anywhere near the top 20 most corrupt countries in the world. Why don't you get out of your American bubble and travel a bit, or even read something that reports fact based news without the plastic headlines telling you what you should think.....try The Economist, International Tribune, or listen to some BBC or Bloomsburg World News. Your current state of ignorance about the rest of the real world will likely surprise you.

Anonymous said...

People wont care until a bunch of Gringo tourists get kidnapped or killed when visiting Cancun, or if the violence started spilling over to the point that gringos get killed in large numbers on the American side of the border.
The article glosses over the fact that the Mexican govt has lost control over many areas. And although the country is slightly more 'democratic', the areas lost have become terrorist dictatorships where people live in constant fear and both the narcos and the government operate with impunity.

Anonymous said...

The Mexicans are ignored largely by the U.S. why? Because of a culture within your own country that hates anything perceived as "outside influence."

You want all that is good for Mexico from the U.S. (see $), but none of the help that could truly change your way of life.

Thus, the U.S. helps the Mexican government in a very clandestine way, rather than openly, so as to appease the traditionalists who won't tolerate outside boots on your soil.

The result is very little of the real help ever reaches those most in need.

Mexico's governing infrastructure is openly corrupt, top to bottom. Has been forever. The cartels are the least of your countries worries. Leave the cartels to their work and I'll bet they leave you alone.

Attack verbally instead, the way of life that is accepted. Get elected, get rich. Otherwise, join a gang or live in sub-poverty. Neither of which offer a long life expectancy.

Anonymous said...

Bullshit. 99.9999% of americans don't use drugs and hate crackheads. If mexicans despise america so much...stay out and stop using america taxes to pay ur Fucking welfare asses. This drug war isn't even about drugs. Extortion, kidnapping , crooked cops, mayors, etc.. is mexicans Fucking over mexicans. It starts with yourselves ...youre own people. Stop blaming everyone else! It originates with shitty parenting. These are youre people killing each other!

Anonymous said...

He wrote "The Mexicans are ignored largely by the U.S. why? Because of a culture within your own country that hates anything perceived as "outside influence." etc.
.

My response is that I like Mexico's any policies THAT PROTECTS MEXICO'S S.O.V.E.R.E.I.G.N.T.Y. !!

Let me mention the world Globalization:

Globalization is A Threat to any country's Sovereignty yet many are unaware of what it really means and so-called Free Trade Agreement are part of that THREAT of loss of sovereignty ties at the hip all countries involved in the economic agreements !! Notice the word 'Partnership' is also used, Free Trade Partnership; it has serious implications.

Viva Mexico!
.

Sensiblero

CarreteraDurangoMazatlan said...

July 24 1:53pm - thank you and me too. I was born and raised in America and I care about Mexico and our neighbors to the south. I found this article sad but true. The apathy and ignorance Americans have towards Mexico is illogical and unfortunate.

JoseGutierrezAire said...

I fell in love with Mexican people during a business visit to Mexico City a long time ago. I have been to nearly three dozen countries and still believe the Mexicans are the nicest. However unless one goes "in country" the only exposure USers have is to the poor natives who live along the border and enter the US to work. Unfortunately, while they are still very nice people, USers tend to look the other way...they look down on them...they fear them...they do not try to get to know them. Border towns also do not make a good impression.

I believe these unrepresentative exposures are the basis for USers' attitude toward all of Mexico. I'm upset that the violence in Mexico makes it difficult to visit. I love the history and beauty and as I mentioned, the people. That led me to contribute to the English language body of knowledge by writing Blood, Death, Drugs & Sex in Old Mexico. A fictional account of the cartel/government war. Available on Amazon.com/Kindle, I'm striving to educate more USers regarding how crazy, but wonderful Mexico really is...and everyone should get to know it better.

Anonymous said...

Funny after a well resources article ,stating.Facts not opinions your little mind.can't.just.accept.the truth. 99.99 % don't use drugs. Dude where the fuck you live? I hope is in a church or something.because this drug America. At least cannabis is not as harmful as the pharmaceuticals people love taking in.this country.

Anonymous said...

CarreteraDurangoMazatlan, compadre, try a little Drudge Report or Rush if you really want to know the truth, provecho!

Anonymous said...

If it starts with shitty parenting that explains your ignorance.Then stay your racist ass off this blog.

Anonymous said...

The people you talk about from the hood. They just tryn to make money how they can since we live in a America still run by racist Brits and crazy dum white people then we have to resort to that. You know what I'm sayin it could have been anything robbin stores or in this case selling a product that every one is going to always want because it helps them with how they feel inside. then their goin to start being business men doin wat ever meens they need to to succeed in this case with drug prohibition u see the ctime that has developed from prohibition. Remember the 20s. Gangs sprang up to control the market of the product everyone wanet at the time. Alcohol.
You should read and study this stuff man and think logically not with a one track mind

Anonymous said...

No you idiot its conservative news and dum conservative media man the old peoples way. the old grouchy old hag party

Anonymous said...

anonymous 7/24/12 3:52 "Leave the cartels to their work and I'll bet they leave you alone" ...not only are you clueless about mexico and whats going on but youre equally ignorant about your own country.

anonymous 7/24/12 5:55 pm "99.9999% of americans don't use drugs..." you really need to get out more.. its closer to 10% of americans use drugs daily...and were not even talking about alcohol. not only has every american prez since clinton have used drugs but several states have decriminalized marihuana. the demand for drugs created the problem and american arms exacerbated the situation...anyone who cant see that is part of the problem.

Anonymous said...

As much as Americans ignore what's going on in Mexico, we can agree that Mexicans really ignore what's going on in Mexico, right?

Anonymous said...

I don't read comments that are written in all caps. Obama and the Obamamite press want to ignore the Mex. situation 'till after November. I think that we should pin the capture of Chapo Guzman directly on the decision to re-elect Obama . Why should it affect the U.S.? If we can not follow a financial trail to a billionaire then we are incompetant. Hell, I could buy a half a joint with a dollar and trace the dollar via Hellogeorge.com and find out where it ends up. I haven't done this because I may not want to know right now. We pay taxes for what?

Anonymous said...

The guy who wrote this wrote for New York Times? Some of the shit written was improper English. Fuck that. I can do a better job. All in the name of ethnic sensitivity, I guess.

Al quds said...

Money makes the world go around I think money. Is guna be a religion a massive cult
I think drug lords. Know aliens/demonz
Whatever you want to call them
I think aliens tell cartel bosses/jefes to
Capture or there rivals andkill them in brutal ways like
Mexicos ancient ancestors so the aliens/Demon can eat there. Souls its just a theory. Of mine. were Obama fits in to this. I don't know maybe
In fastN FURIOUS DOCUMENTS I GUESS WE WILL NEVER KNOW
BECAUSE OF HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER I THINK THERE'S MORE TO JUST
KILLING. EACH OTHER FOR DRUGS GUNS AN EGO I THINK THATS WHY
THEY. CALLEM ILLEGAL ALIEN'S

Anonymous said...

Too many idiots have found this site and comment regularly. Most need to get a clue and learn how to spell at the same time. Of all the comments the one that caught my eye more than the rest was the reference to what would happen if the US joined in with MX to fight the cartels and drugs became harder to get. We have already seen what happened when the US tightened up as much as they could on the border crossings and checkpoints. Cocaine went up near $10,000 per kilo and the supply was limited at best. The money stop flowing thru US banks by everyday people hustling small time here and there to pay there mortgages and the US went into the second worst financial recession in history.

Anonymous said...

Traigan al lobo mayor a cuidar las gallinas Y de pasada Corten intermediarios y vendanles su Perico aqui mismo bolla de ......

Anonymous said...

Educate yourself...

Anonymous said...

Continual ongoing Education for both Americans and Mexicans is as vital to the future of Mexico, as is interest in the country itself.

Not all Americans ignore what is going on in Mexico. Many Americans are involved right here on Borderland Beat and work long and hard bring news to English speaking persons through out the world. Chivis Martinez, case in point. We should be looking together for some solutions slowly, step by step. I'd like to see noticeable steps towards elimination of corruption in our lifetime. That is a wide category-that we can all work under with the goal of making a difference in the lives of Mexican-slowly and surely. Soy 132 for the future of slow political change in Mexico. I want to get rid of corruptos in our lifetime.

Anonymous said...

The problem is that we live in a materialistic world, where some people want to get rich fast. Especially when they are not raised with proper values and don't know the difference anymore what's good and what's wrong.

The grass is always greener at the neighboors, most people don't want to improve spiritally.

As European I would say choose for a social approach and give everyone in Mexico a fair chance to attend school and university. Try to close the gap between rich and poor.

That is the only remedy for the U.S. and Mexico.

Anonymous said...

Hello, hola July 25, 2012 2:11 AM

On Aliens:

I just want to tell you to be careful with the idea of ALIENS, you can take that too far and become SCHIZOPHRENIC and not be able to function well mentally and emotionally. If you go see doctors they will give you drugs to make matters worse for you. Be careful with the alien idea, it would be better to focus on things you can TOUCH, SEE, FEEL to keep your feet on the ground instead of letting IMAGINATION TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE.

Go to places where there is beautiful scenery and notice all the fine details all around you, bring inspiration into your life. Find new things to do, get out there and live it up!

Take care

.Sensiblero.

Anonymous said...

Hello July 24, 2012 6:58 PM

I enjoyed what you wrote, thanks for sharing that with us.

SB

Anonymous said...

8:43, you sound like an extremely intelligent, highly educated, contributor to society.

Please share with us more of your wisdom.

Anonymous said...

Gimme a break, as an American your "damned if you do and damned if you don't.." The "blame game" is popular, when you can't or don't have control of your own gov't! The simple fact is...it doesn't matter what "corruption rating" Mexico falls under..the place is corrupt..money is power and ethics and morals take a backseat! I don't need to "travel" outside my "bubble" or read some bullshit international media resource to figure out Mexico's problem because I'm not from Mexico nor do I reside there! Whether you like it or not the US cannot solve Mexico's problem...nor does Mexico want "direct" help from the US! I said it once before and I will say it again...the solution to the problem can be found in Mexico, among Mexicans..nowhere else!! If the journalist, who wrote this bullshit was so concerned...maybe he should get a job in MEXICO and not the US! It's easy to critize, when your living "outside" of the "bubble," where the problem exits!

Al quds said...

That's why I said its a theory of mine
I did not say It was true.you seem like the person that hates the theory of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE. REMEMBER WE LIVE IN A BIG UNIVERSE SO MANY GALAXIES OUT THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE SMART LIKE US. THERE COULD BE A
MILLION PLANETS WITH human extraterrestrials it says it in ISLAM
HOW THEY SAY THERE'S MORE THAN JUST ONE WORLD. ALSO IN HINDU
TXT SANSKRIT. I ALSO THINK THE MAYANS KNEW THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST 1WORLD BUT THE POPE
IN THOSE DAYS TOLD PEOPLE THAT
THE WORLD WAS FLAT AND THAT
EARTH WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. I STILL WONDER
DID THE POPE BURN THE MAYANS BOOKS TO HIDE SOMETHING WE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

Anonymous said...

Reply for 12:29 PM (July 27)

To the contrary, there's not one Alien I've ever met that I've ever had a problem except for the one I invited over to my place last week to my outdoor barbacue who ate my only beloved cat!

For me, Aliens are like ghosts and gobblins, Haloween material, entertainment. The IDEA that aliens exist can are be used as a weapon to control minds especially by the Military and / or Cult leaders.

Sensiblero

Anonymous said...

You mean naIborHOODS
GHETTOS SOUNDS LIKE
YOU WERE in HITLERS
NOT SO FUN CAMPS.
DIDN'T THAT WORD GHETTOS
ORIGINATED FROM JEWISH
GHETTOS. SO YOU SAYS AMERICA
HAS JEWISH GHETTOS?
NAIBORHOODS WOULD HAVE BEEN
MORE SPECIFIC.

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