Thursday, May 3, 2012

Several Mexican drug cartel groups involved in Sinaloa bloodshed

Previous Borderland Beat stories on the bloodshed in Sinaloa state can be found here, here and here
By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Mexican cartel allied groups which fought each other and Mexican security forces, and died since Saturday, include such groups as the Beltran-Leyva, the Sinaloa and the Los Zetas drug cartels, according to Mexican news accounts.

In a Thursday posting at its website, Vangardia news daily reported unnamed sources saying that the groups which were in the general area of Choix since Saturday include Los Mazatlecos, Los Chapos Isidro Norte, Los Pequeños and Los Zetas, led by Fausto Isidro Meza Flores AKA El Chapo Isidro, against a Sinaloa group called Gente Nueva.

Also included, not surprisingly was an armed group led by a Juarez Cartel operative identified as José Luis Ledezma, AKA El JL, leader of Los Aztecas.  The Juarez Cartel makes use of remote mountain communities in far western Chihuahua state ro grow some of the drugs it smuggles into the US.  La Linea, the Juarez cartel's enforcement wing also operated in remote Chihuahua state communities such as Madero, where quantities of Tovex, a commercial grade dynamite was found just after the July, 2010 car bomb in Juarez city.

Prior reports said that two groups had exchanged gunfire initially in Choix municipality, also wound up fighting Mexican Army and Sinaloa state police agents, and have been since then until Wednesday.

The Vangardia report also said that Mexican Army troops have moved further into eastern Choix to make arrests of cartel shooters involved in the fighting since last Saturday.

The total dead state wide, by this author's account, include 54 gang and cartel affiliated shooters, the latest being in Guasave where 11 armed suspects and two Mexican soldiers were killed early Wednesday morning.

Speaking of the firefight in Guasave, Vangardia said that the Mexican Secretaria de Defensa Nacional, the controlling agency for the Mexican Army, reported large amounts of munitions seized including 31 rifles, 12 handguns, 5,291 rounds of ammunition. 121 weapons magazines, hand grenades and homemade explosive devices.  These munitions lists probably also include quantities seized in Choix municipality since last Saturday.

In a Thursday evening post on its website, Noreste news daily reported that 11 armed suspects were killed in the firefight between armed suspects and a Mexican Army road patrol at the Hotel Macurín.  Seven suspects died in separate hotel rooms, while two more died attempting to flee the fire zone.  Two more died in the court yard of the hotel.

The report also said that 30 local schools were closed down during the two  hour long firefight.

Contraband seized in the aftermath of the firefight include 28 rifles and pistols (including two 0.50 caliber Barrett rifles), four vehicles including one armored Jeep Cherokee SUV and  1,600 rounds of ammunition.

According to a post on its website Thursday evening El Debate news daily listed nine of the 11 armed suspects killed in Guasave:  Luis Enrique Leon Leyva, José Alberto Rocha Fonseca, Juvenal Parez Encino, Carlos Daniel Velazquez Terraza, Oscar Manuel Montoya Lopez, Omar Adrian Montoya Rubio, Luis Saenz, Jesus Gamez and José Leonardo Lopez Murillo.

In a story posted on its website Thursday Grupo Formula radio said that at least one church, Catedral de Nuestra Señora del Rosario in Culican, the capital of Sinaloa has been vandalized by cartel operatives.  The report also said a Catholic priest was stabbed at a Catholic school last week and is in serious condition.

On the website of La Tarde news daily Thursday evening, it was reported that a total of 23 dead had been found in several municipalities of Sinaloa.  It is unclear in that report how many are included in the total death toll of 56.

In Culiacan, 10 were reported dead, four in Salvador Alvarado, three in Ahome, two each in San Ignacio and El Fuerte, and one each in Navolato and Mocorito.

Chris Covert writes Mexican Drug War and national political news for Rantburg.com

59 comments:

  1. Guzman started this in Nuevo Laredo years ago and baited Lazcano last month. Guzman, you disrespected the code years ago in Juarez. Guzman, your own people should take you out. You wanted a war and now you have it in your own plaza. Lazcano, you can't control your cells. You disrespected the code and violated the Mexican people. Padrino would never disrespect the code, even Carillo knew better and his hands were on the border. You're an insurgency.

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    1. Now theyre all seeing the big picture, girly chapo heated everyones plazas, used the military ans federal forces to dight for him because hes a pussy. Carrillo shifted his attencion toward revenge now attacking theyre land, they dont have the military federales or police on their side but beltranes are deep in sinaloa, along with zetas, this is gonna get good

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    2. You know nothing about Chapo if I was near you I would cut your throat and trachea do I can hear you drown in your own blood and wheez for your last breath Sinaloa is ours Culiacan is my child no man no military no police will take my Culiacan every zeta I add to my list makes me sleep better each night you pinche babosos we own Mexico we own it all
      La Araña

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    3. Pinche araña pedorra,ur a stupid fool.!!.ur father should've used a condom when he fucked ur mom to have u...I just hope u die before u have any kids of ur own,because we all know this trend will never stop,it keeps going from generation to generation....And u don't own shit Motherfucker!!!!

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  2. Damn son shit just got real in sinaloa

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  3. El JL is not leader of the aztecas. He's the number three guy of the juarez cartel with some saying he's the number two boss of the juarez cartel just under Vicente Carrillo Fuentes.

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  4. JL? so he is not dead

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  5. Was it initially Sinaloa (CDS) who came to Choix to attack the rivals, and clear the territory? And the Juarez/Zeta backed those led by Chapo Isidro? The whole thing is a bloody, confusing, fascinating mess. A modern day western.

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  6. That's another thing, after years, out of nowhere El JL is leading sicario teams in the hills of Sinaloa, with Juarez in shambles, and his group seen as on it's last legs, now he comes back? or not?

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    1. They are making up names JL is dead

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  7. Chapo Isidro sent a group from Chihuahua over the Sierra to a rancho in Choix that is the base of operations for CDS plaza boss Adelmo "EL Lemo Nuñez in order to kill Lemo in retaliation for the attack at Las Glorias the Thursday before Good Friday.

    Isidro sent cloned federal and state police vehicles, but he was met with a fierce attack from Lemo that scattered his fighters into the sierra, and when the army arrived they seized several of the cloned police vehicles.

    The temperature on the Chihuahua side of the sierra was 114 yesterday and there's no water. The locals are all support staff for plantations supplying CDS. These fighters are tired, thirsty, hungry, and not welcome.

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  8. haha it gotta take like 5 or 6 groups jus to fight 1 group haha f*ucken pussy.im sorry jus sayin. jus to show you how strong CDS is

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    1. Oh yeah CDS is only one group right? Hahahaha your comment was pointless.

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    2. You are really stupid.along with cds,how many groups(federal police,miltary and all that shit against juarez cartel,and tbey still cant beat the juarez cartel over 5 years!!! Shows u whos the stro gest cartel dumb ass!

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  9. hope they kill that greedy bastards of chapo

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  10. rajah said..........JAJAJAJ U DUMB MORON IT TAKES CARTELES UNIDOS AND THEIR CORRUPTED FEDERAL GOVERMENT AND MARINES TO TAKE OUT LOS ZETAS AND THEY STILL CANT JAJAJAJA DONT TALK SHIT OUT UR MOUTH SON,SINALOA IS NOTHING BUT PUSSYS THATS WY IN SHOOTOUTS WITH THE ZETAS OR BLO THEY GET THEIR ASS KICKED.NAYARIT,SONORA,CHIHUAHUA WHY U THINK THEY HAVE TO CALL THEIR MARINES TO HELP THEM FIGHT OUT CAUSE THEY CANT DO SHIT.AND THIS SINALOENS TALK BIG SHIT LIKE IF THEIR ACTUALLY KILLING ZETAS.JAJAJA IN NVO LAREDO THERE SENDING THEIR MARINES TO TRY TO WHIPE OUT JAJAJAJA EN NVO LAREDO QUISIERON TREGUA LOS JOTOS DEL CDS OFRECIENDO 15 MILLONES AL Z40 PARA QUE PUEDEN PASAR X NUESTRA FRONTERA Y QUE LES DIJO EL COMMANDER 40."CHAPO VETE A CHINGA TU MADRE LA LETRA Z NO SE COMPRA OJETE"AQUI EN LAREDO SOMO DE DIFERENTE MADREA CULEROS.VERDADEROS TAMAULIPECOS QUE NO LES DAMOS LAS NALGAS AL CHAPUTO COMO LOS TORCIDOS,LAS GOLFAS,Y LAS CABALLERAS

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    1. Por eso se estan muriendo de hambre

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    2. Pinche indio Rosado,Tamaulipeco crusado con mayate(si es cierto se dice Que los Tamaulipecos son crusados con negros).Y si no me crees preguntale ha tu abuela,si no es cierto Que se la xhingo un negro.....Y sabes que,el pendejo de 40 viera aceptado los 15 millones,porque ahora no va tener no madres,cuando le quiten la plaza!!

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    3. Parece que no conoces al 40 imbécil. Desde que era el lavacarros del Arturo nunca valió madre. Nadamas ustedes que andan de caliente por que la 40 al igual que la Talibana a la hora de los pelotazos se esconden todos jotos y ustedes son los que se mueren. Nomas por que la niña anda en bola por que sólo mano a mano nunca la ha hecho, si no preguntaselo a Marta Porras y su hermano. Hubiera agarrado los 15 melones, asi de perdido su hermana no las anduviera dando por un 20 aqui en el rancho. Al rato el pendejo se va a quedar sin nada, ni feria ni plaza. Te lo digo por que se, cuando andan en sus pedos escondidos la hermana de la 40 y la jefa del Taliban que se llama Teresa Caballero se la pasan en el Holliday Inn con nosotros. Puro Sinaloa pendejo.

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    4. Por eso Los michoacanos Los zakaron volando a tus pinches zorraz joto alla en michoacan sela pelan putozz esos pinches vatos mis respetos y arriba guerrero makuarrozzz

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  11. None of y'all know shit chapo is funded by us and visa versa he sustaining other countries there just creating violence on purpose to say chapos name lazca meet with chapo already the violence is just to cover everybody working together it's all being watched by US closely no one cares so y should u there all working on agreement and expanding routes even STRATFORD is clueless because they r funded by chapo lol it's funny but true

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  12. As far as I know El Chapo Isidro has broken with los Beltranes and now is working for el Chapo Guzman Loera! If my infa is wrong, please correct me!

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    1. Your info is wrong my friend.Chapo isidro is A 10000000% Beltran Leyva and aswers directly to El H.

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  13. Who cares if they send in marines don't be mad cuz u don't got money an power to send marine troops an army troops .

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  14. El JL is back? I got it strait from el Diego that he was dead already..... Is this all make believe or what?

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  15. Zs are comin in they found chapo

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  16. to "May 4, 2012 5:47 AM"

    so where did you get that telenovela from? seems interesting and cool... you should give us a link to see it, or is it that you have nothing to do and just read the forums and articles?

    the way it sounds your a dark skin mexican, no job, no education, lives with parents, tries to wear aeropostale with surf shorts, and a rosario.

    also a prepaid phone, and now you think your someone....

    its Christian Villareal from san diego!

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  17. May 4, 2012 5:47 AM ZETA, Cartels unidos ain't in Sinaloa .... CDG They were once a part of the dirty Zetas and the only thing CDS helps them with is give them weapons and drugs that's all they have to do with them. Other than that CDS doesn't need anyone unlike ZETAS, Juarez, Beltran, Tijuana you guys are weak. United and still can't control. EL lozcano sent all his boys to a sucided mission for coming to Sinaloa...

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    1. LOL estas pendejo tu de verda. Los CDS y CDG estan Unidos y se ayudan uno al otro con los operativos y si supieras Los Antrax estan a la orden del Golfo en TAMAULIPAS, NUEVO LEON, y Veracruz. CDG como ya saben andamos en Florida, Nueva York, North Carolina, Illinois, Texas y hasta California mas pilas Que Nunca 111-119 18-3-2

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    2. Tijuana no esta con zetas estas pendejol

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  18. Too many cartel/narco/sicario fans posting pure bullshit on here! I could give a rat's ass, on who has gained the upper hand or who is winning or losing among the DTO's! It doesn't matter because the real "loser" in all of this is Mexico!!! Mexico is an unstable country and it's not right!! Nobody (Mexicans) should support or approve of anything the DTO's are doing..regardless of Mexico's social or economical state because Mexico is losing investors, tourism, and the overall "proud image" of a beautiful country!! For what! So, low life criminals and Mexican elite officials can turn a profit, while it's the common man, who loses everything.

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    1. BINGO! Right on brotha

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  19. el chapo isidro is a joke

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  20. well if chapo guzman really has military and federal forces on his team then he's a bad mofo. thats power my friend so quit hating cause the truth hurts.and in alot of i do want the dope game to go back to how it was.A VERY RESPECTED BUISNESS IN MEXICO.

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  21. WTF WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS CHAPO IS SUPPORTING ANY COUNTRIES ARE YOU STUPID? IF YOU READ UP ON BORDERLAND BEAT OR ANY OTHER NEWS SOURCE POEPLE FROM SINALOA ARE THE POOREST PEOPLE IN MEXICO THEY HAVE TO WALK MILES TO EVEN USE A PHONE IN ORDER TO ASK THEIR DAUGHTERS FOR MONEY TO ME THAT IS EMBARASING LOL BUT I GUESS ACCORDING TO SOME OF YOU CHAPO IS FEEDING THEM? CHAPO IS ONLY IN IT FOR HIM SELF TAKE IT FROM A SHOP MANAGER WHO EMPLOYS PEOPLE FROM SINALOA THESE GUYS ARE POOR THEY SHOW ME PICTURES OF THERE FARMS AND I THINK FUCK THATS NOT A FARM ITS A SHACK. DONT GET ME WRONG I LOVE PEOPLE FROM SINALOA THEY ARE HARD WORKING AND GOOD PEOPLE BUT JUST DONT TRY TO LIE TO ME AND TELL ME HE IS HELPING THEM CUZ ITS A LIE ONLY PERSON HELPING THEM IS A WHITE GUY NAMED BART P. HE IS THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY WE WORK FOR...HE LOANS US MONEY HE BUYS US FOOD AND HE IS OUR FRIEND WHO HAS EMPLOYED US FOR MANY YEARS... AGAIN ALL I SEE IS 7 MEN FROM SINALOA WHO WORK FOR THEM SELVES INSTALLING GLASS IN THE AZ HEAT WITH THE ONLY CHECK COMING FROM A GUY NAMED BART AND WATCHED AND CARED FOR BY A GUY NAMED BEN FROM CHIH,MEX WE ALL GET ALONG AND WE LAUGH AT ALL THE BULL SHIT AND LIES HAPPENING IN MEXICO... DONT BELIEVE THE LIES WE ALL DO GET ALONG AND ONLY PEOPLE WHO TRY TO BRING US APART AND FIGHT EACH OTHER ARE THE ONES WHO DO NOT GET WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT WORK,FREINDSHIP, AND FAMILY.... CHAPO IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR YOU YOUR SELF ARE YOUR OWN SAVIOR THATS HOW LIFE IS YOU HAVE TO WORK YOU CANT EXPECT ANY ONE TO GIVE YOU SHIT FOR FREE NOTHING IS FREE CUZ IF EXCEPT MONEY OR ? THEN YOUR IN THEIR DEBT AND WHO KNOWS HOW SOME COLD BLOODED GREEDY BASTERD WANTS THAT PAID MAYBE AS CANON FODDER FOR MEXICAN MILITARY SO IT CAN GIVE HIM A COUPLE MORE SECONDS TO GET AWAY AND RUN AWAY WHILE YOU SIT THEIR FIGHTING TILL THE DEATH OR TILL TACO HEAD HAPPENS AND MILITARY BLOWS YOUR HEAD OFF AND FOR WHAT? SO YOUR FAMILY ENDS UP ALONE AND EVEN MORE NEEDY THAN B4 NOW WITH OUT YOU .........

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  22. This is all great headlining news?
    Los M,Isidro,JL,Z,BLO,CDS/GN,great.But,why would JL,in person be leading an attack?From what you hear and makes sense,Los M,go looking to ambush the CDS crew there,end up bangin on each other,and bring heat,the two crews are now shooting at each other and soldiers.Then it just got bigger as more crew were sent for,don't forget,both sides could have got men in there.I think we all knew who would most likely be involved,given the area and shit like that.The main men who were there,are long gone by now.Just have to wait and see the outcome and any faces.

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  23. When the army and marines attack the cartels scurry like cockroaches!
    Why do you think the cartels only prey on the average mexican and not carlos slim and the other super wealthy, cause they know they will get squashed by the army and marines.
    The cartels and the super rich in wealthy both prey on the average mexican.
    Also, the cartels are useful to the super rich as they kill all the leftists that threaten the super rich, thus allowed to survive.

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  24. "Teresa Caballero se la pasan en el Holliday Inn con nosotros. Puro Sinaloa pendejo"
    So whats your point hermano,was you bangin her?
    Or was you bangin her brother?Or are you gonna murk his ass,or is he now your best buddy.
    Maybe you secretly wanna log on to 40s backdoor.
    Man,say your shit,don't be using code an shit,who fuckin cares on here.Just say what you mean.
    Look what happens when you don't make it clear,people think your hiding the pork with Taliban.

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  25. May 4, 2012 10:03 AM .
    Have you not realized by now,that this is Mexican culture.You cannot get anywhere against their antagonism against the"gringo"So you may as well talk to a wall.All anyone can do is comment,look on as this madness continues,and if you are a"gringo"that gives you even less reason to comment or have an opinion.It is always seen as being derogatory whenever you say anything."Fix your your own country gringo"this is one reason why this aint ending anytime soon.This has been bubbling under the surface for many years,and now it is unleashed.
    No one else is to blame for this lunacy.Most Mexicans embrace this bullshit,cartel hero worship,when they don't even know these rats who are ruining Mexico.They all need exterminating with extreme prejudice,but that is not going to happen until the majority of the Mexican people get completely fed up with these clowns.As you say it is most definitely costing Mexico in a big way.

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  26. Dont believe the rumors el JL is not dead trust me it would have been on the news he on Mexico's most wanted list with the mexican government offering one million dollars for info leading to his capture

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  27. Haha El jl sigue con Vicente!!

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  28. La Araña .
    Git the fuck outta here.
    What man,are you toppin Z left right and center?
    Good for you,at least you killin motherfuckers,there's enough to go round,motherfuckers need killin awl da time.
    Nah man,guess you don't like the last.But if you the other side,why would you like z.But i don't think Sinaloa is your child,you know what i mean.Thats takin that shit to far.Its just a place hermano,you never know,one day you may have to bail the fuck out and never go back,that wouldn't stress me,its just a place.

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  29. check out May 4 @5:47am's profile go to YT search for ' zeton maton levanton ' this is this guy

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  30. Todo el valle de ciudad juarez es del chapo guzman y todo esta mas trankilo no kuando andava el rikin y j.l k ya parecian zetas kobrando kotas arriva juarez arriva caseta el valle de juarez

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  31. I do think this has definitely got something to do with the shit Guzman pulled.He baited the Z two times with the cut up bodies and messages.I actually found it hard to believe that Guzman sanctioned that shit.Now shit is goin on in Nvo Laredo,i always think CDG is in all this as well.They still got a lot of people and plazas and hate the Z with a vengeance,and they definitely got something goin on with CDS.
    SOME OF THESE BOSSES NEED KILLING PRONTO.If they want to stop some of this shit,some,because this aint goin away anytime soon.

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  32. Ta pendejo wey caseta esta pa la verga el otra ves mataron a DOS chabitas todo el Valle de Juarez es UN peligro. Al rikin se lo chingaron por la dea, y de q ablas wey si sabes de Juarez sabes q Los aztecas controlan Las calles desde picaderos aunq son menos q antes Los picaderos, pero controlan desde polleros, prostitucion, trafico de lo q se puedan imaginar, como traian al leyzaola con las manos en el culo asta q dijo q ya no iba ir contra la linea z q les estaban matando policias corruptos.. ase UN chingo q no se oye nada de gente nueba, ahy tienen nomas ala municipal pagada Los weyes y una q otra celula escondida con Los mexicles y doble a para cruzar droga, desde ase meses q la Linea esta mandando gente de Juarez a chihuhua. El chapo trae poca gente en chihuhua porq el pendejo se quiso apoderar de todo Mexico y aora se le voltearon. Asi le VA.ir por pendejo maricon, y traicionero y el pinche arana q chinge asu madre q alos de sinaloa se les VA caer el canton por maricones sin ayuda del gobierno no son mas q unas pirujas bola se putos

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    1. Es todo mi compa, los sinaoloas nomas se la pasan hablando pendejadas y el cds con el apoyo del gobierno no pudo en juarez o chih, animo mi gente de chihuas a sacar a la verga al cds de chih y esa raza de chihuas que apoya al cds,pienselan bien viejos que esos chapos son traicioneros ya esta comprobado!!!!

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  33. Public Enemy #1 are the Zetas. Declare a truce with all the other gangs and focus on killing the Ratz. Put a bounty on their fucking heads. The only good Zeta is a dead Zeta. And the same goes for their families, their friends, their fucking dogs!

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  34. Why doesn't the Mexican military employ U.S. drones equipped with Hellfire missles...they can monitor the roads for 30 SUVs and just take them out like they do in Pakistan...

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  35. Just let them kill each other. Easier.

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  36. Lazcano mandando gente para enseñarle al joto del chapulin un mensage con sangre Por pasarse de huevos en Laredo! Lazacano sending people to Sinaloa to teach chapulin a message with blood for trying to grow balls in laredo!!!

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    1. Pendejo si los muertos en sinaloa en choix guasave ahome bamoa y todos los demas son puroz zetacuaches y beltranes para q t ases pendejo y no dises la neta gueyote y la sifra de maruchanez muertos son mas 60y la cuenta va seguir suviendo...cual puto apoyo de tu pinche rascano si a los mugrozoz ya les anda el nvo laredo zacatecas nvo leon veracruz y cohuila a si q no t alces pendejo y di la neta

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  37. Almost all the dead are from isidro and juarez. They also killed chonte he was the right hand man for isidro. So stop talking shit

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  38. jl is not dead the f u talkin bout

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  39. what oil producing countries are to the USA, Sinaloa is to the mainstream Mexican politico system.

    Operators come & go, alas the cash cow stays.

    The oil well will not be crushed by any other oil well wannabe, being a trade zone corridor 'owner' does not make you a main supplier. There has to be another oil producing region rich or richer as the original one, and so far there isn't another one.
    So, keep theorizing about who's who and entertain yourselves with adventure filled theories, as the great Led Zepp sang, The song Remains the same.

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  40. Miren putos el jl ya mamo el pariente lla empino a Vicente los aztecas pusieron a todos los linieros para comerles el pastel lo que queda del cartel de Juarez le sigue pidiendo. Chichi a los zetas que caen como moscas x todos lados ustedes screen que adora con un pinche meco como el chapo isidro que se la pasa Asta la madre x que Isabel que tiene el relox en retroceso o la's pinches perillas de low beltranes. O uno que otro despitado sigue carrosas le ban a algo al Gran cartel de sinaloa y a low carteles unidos no suenen y Sigan asiendo. Sh mejor esfuerso x que ustedes luchan para algun dial granary nosotros luchamos x seguir siendo siempre loss mejores atte el clavo

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  41. The Cartels need to stop the killings on both sides. They are ruining Mexico. Eventually there won't be a Mexico left. The drugs are destroying the human genome. DNA is being rewritten. Mental and physical disabilities are way up in offspring. The affects are spreading rapidly with each new generation. It will eventually create a global pandemic. Find a new business before you destroy humanity completely!

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  42. Wow que triste ver el país convertido en toda esta mierda . Y lo peor es que los mismo Méxiconos hacen que México se vea como país de terror

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