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3.30.12UPDATE: TJ Kidnap Victim Kills 4, Escapes, Then Gunned Down by Police

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3.30.12  UPDATE:El Chapo’s Man: Kidnap “Victim” Identified by "wife"..at bottom

Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat
Events unfolded yesterday in Tijuana that rivaled a movie made in Hollywood, adding to the strange scenario is the secrecy that has encased details from the public.  What is known is and the end of the drama five people were dead; a kidnapped person, two kidnappers, two men who were guarding a vehicle, one of the men was a retired Army officer the other a former Mexican policeman. The guards were the bodyguard and driver of an entrepreneur.
Photo/Noah Chavez El Mex


Reported by AFN, the incident began at 10:00 when the “victim” was taken to a safe house.  This is where things become incredible, the victim somehow managed to become free, was then able to grab a weapon, the weapon was an AK47.  He then killed the two kidnappers at the safe house and escaped.. 
After leaving the safe house, the seminude, handcuffed and now armed man, spotted a SUV a short distance away and eventually stole the vehicle after killing the two body guards who were guarding the SUV.  The two guards are not believed to be involved in the incident.
The State Attorney’s version is the victim then drove a short distance before confronting municipal police, at which time he began firing at them causing a shootout which ended in the victim’s death.
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Four of the now deceased were identified formally by the Deputy Attorney General in Tijuana,  Ricardo Salas Bravo, as David Edgar Vargas and Javier Lopez Ortega Paredes suspected kidnappers,  Luis Enrique González Sifuentes, 41 years old retired Army lieutenant sub and Roberto Fernandez Uribe, 45, a former  police.
At the press conference called by the State Attorney, a statement was read and no questions were allowed.  Speculations have arisen from the strange case intensified by the lack of facts and answers from authorities.
What information was disclosed is the vehicle had been struck by several bullets and the man - said to be around 36 - was found  handcuffed by police handcuffs and holding the “Kalashnikov", AK-47 assault rifle.

The bodies of two people were discovered in the safe house, and in one of the rooms police discovered a 9MM handgun and another AK-47, 43 packets of marijuana, tactical gear, a marijuana press and a scale.
In the house where the bodies were found (alleged kidnappers), located were three shell casings, 7.62 x 39, known as "Kalashnikov", one at the foot of one of the deceased, two additional casings in the garage of the home and one on the street at the same address.
An inspection of the safe house revealed clothes saturated with blood in the laundry room.  That and other indicators not disclosed, left the detectives to conclude the room was used to torture people.
Not explained is why the victim fired on Municipal Police Elements, one version could be that the victim was a criminal who was kidnapped to be exchanged as part of a criminal negotiation with rival groups.
Comments on the AFN Blog:
Moreover, in comments left on AFN blog, one reader identifies the “kidnapped" who committed the murders, as "The Javy or G", however does not provide further details or whether he belonged to an organized crime group.
Another reader claims to have seen it all stating; as he walked towards an Oxxo  he heard noises "like rockets" when he ran into a man he calculated as 30 years, with a "Kalashnikov" in hand and shirtless.  He claims to have remained calm and pleasant greeting thee man with “good afternoon” and ran back to his home.  Later he learned the man ended up dead killed by police.
Unofficial Reports:
 AFN  has learned that the man, who  paid with his life after opening fire on local police, was "someone heavy", apparently linked to organized crime "and an expert weapons operator," this was proven with the way he handled a "Kalashnikov", although he was wearing police-type handcuffs.
Another report is he apparently  was deprived of his freedom to "get even" or  exchange him for something or someone not defined, with a rival group.
Sources used : AFN, El Mex
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UPDATE 3.30.12
El Chapo’s Man: Kidnap “Victim”  Identified by "wife"

A woman identifying herself as the wife of the kidnapped victim identified and claimed the body.  The woman identified him as Ramon Olivas, 52 years old from Sinaloa .  This is similar to the blog comments on AFN however those comments identified him as Genaro  Olivas, and others said he was known as “G”.
 
The age of 52 is far away from the statement from the authorities that claimed he was 36.  The woman was questioned by the state attorney. TJ media is reporting the 36 year old wife called him to TJ.  When he arrived in the city he was kidnapped by individuals who took him to the safe house, the same safe house in which he killed his captors.   His captors are presumed  to have been sleeping when he made his escape. 
 
Both captors were in the army and at least one was a deserter.  Olivas is linked to El Chapo, and is said to have been an  important figure in the Sinaloa Cartel described as a “heavy”.  Initially he was sent to TJ from Sinaloa by Chapo.
 
People in TJ are expressing fear that heavy violence will again erupt, if in fact Olivas was a heavy there may be retribution, especially since this event appears to be a set up that included many players, including the army and police.
If more information becomes available I will be sure to post it…Paz, Chivis

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44 Borderland Beat Comments:

PUEBLO said...

WTF?

Anonymous said...

The municipal police work for the cartel that had kidnaped him. Not surprized if they were the ones that handed him over to the cartel. Either way he was dead.

Anonymous said...

That's one tough guy. He knew what was gonna happen to him so he had nothing to lose.

Anonymous said...

Don't know the guy, but it sounds like his life was a monumental example of bad luck.

1.) Born in Mexico of all places.

2.) Kidnapped

3.) Manages to somehow beat the odds and overcome his captors, but after being teased for only a moment with a taste of new found freedom, he runs into more bad luck.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

carteldewero said...

second comment sounds solid to me

Anonymous said...

That is just plain CRAZY! I also thought that the police may have been involved, or at least the "victim" thought so.

Anonymous said...

Oh bro you are good... The police were the ones that turned him over... Thats why he didnt hesitate when he saw those pigs... Either get caught and go back were he came from or fight for his life...

Anonymous said...

This is whats wrong with Mexico when you see the cops and know they are with a cartel. You can't trust ANYONE!! those who are not up on the situation down there would probably think "ahh good the police! he's made it! they will take him in and look after him and offer him protection!" the reality of course is the opposite. They most likely were the ones who turned him to the kidnappers or helped them in someway. I guess the guy knew the cops were working with the cartel and went out with a blaze of glory rather than just be arrested and put right back where he escaped from to die anyway possibly slower. Its sad.

Anonymous said...

He was a brave man who escaped his kidnappers and had worse luck being gun down by police fucking piggs mexico full of corrupt mother fuckers.Thats and example to never give up gett killed wih pride then gett killed butcherd up

Chivis said...

@11:34

correct. Most likely scenario. and He had to be "someone heavy", easily identifiable nothing else makes sense

1:02
In AFN blog comments are calling him "Rambo",

Anonymous said...

HE WAS PROBABLY A ZETA JAJAJAJA WITH ALL DAT SPECIAL FORCES MILITARY TRAINING DEY GET FROM LASCA AND Z-40

Anonymous said...

ZETAS ARE TAKING OVER

Anonymous said...

you dont have to be a weapons expert when youre scared shitless and fighting for your life

Anonymous said...

Not trying to play "armchair quarterback" here but wonder why the kidnap victim "Rambo" didn't remove his handcuffs before fleeing? He had already whacked his kidnappers and surely one of them had the key but than again he was probably more concerned with getting the hell out of there! Also, I wouldn't feel to sorry for or even praise the "victim" because he was probably just another sicario...I mean he killed two innocent bodyguards like it was nothing! The entrepreneur guy was probably like WTF? I go in for a coffee and when I return both my bodyguards are dead! He was probably shitting bricks thinking he was the target! That's some crazy shit...it's like the wild wild west in Mexico!

Anonymous said...

Some of our Mexican bros,might know whats up.
No wonder he fired on the police,they the dudes who took him and were minding him.Whatever way you look at it,dude went out bangin,cause he knew he was goin no-where but back to the shit hole he just escaped from.I,m taking as many as you fuckers with me as i can.They get paid,and top him anyway,cause he was a face.

Anonymous said...

Not rambo, more like liam neeson in " taken" either way the guy was dirty and probably deserved a lot slower death then he got from the police who were probably in on it!!

Anonymous said...

Innocent mexican bodyguards yeah right isnt it weird they were both one block from the house just keeping guard ex cop.and ex military if it was at the very top of the hill then there is no way they wer not involved

Anonymous said...

This is a Typical "TJ Keystone Cops" scenario
which happens all too often in TJ..! The Mexican authorities keep trying to tell the public that they have everything in order and not to be afraid if your a business man or tourist traveling thru Baja. "Pure" Bulls--t!
My family has property in San Vincente and a
nice villa on the property. Everytime we would
go there it's been "Trashed" and people have been squatting which never happened 5 years ago.
No Fu--en Way I'd go there now; they can have it
F---en Puntas!

J said...

AFN says the man is linked with El Chapo/CDS, but that's about the extent of the information. The authorities apparently can't ascertain his identity from the body.

Anonymous said...

Fuck the police. Prolly was them that put this whole scenario into play in the first place

Anonymous said...

This story is right out of the book " el sicario" if you dont have time to read the whole book skip to page 141....read the book!!

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened, happened, no one will ever know since all involved are now DEAD.
Theres the Mejicano point of view BB expert and the Murrican everyone is corrupt BB expert.
but the truth is between him and God.

Anonymous said...

Everybody here are so smart. You all just figure it out! Bravo!!!

Anonymous said...

They way i see it, he got kinapped, taken to a safe house ,he indeed wad a.heavy some one because he didn't manage to scape even on cuffs. I don not believe he is a zeta b.c those mugrosos or dirty niggas can't really do shit. But constantly.get killed. He was a real sicario who i doubt was going to be exchange. He manage to kill his captors and the people who brought him,the "body guards" of who? There people can speculate anything. The cops probably had to do with this kidnapping and it became a threat once he was gone in sure some one of the captops notice and told.the cops who went after him and gun him down. Why? Because he probably had information which they would not let out. Think about it ... you got away ,u killed ur captors. Why the fuck would he shoot at the
Cops. He had gotten away. Like i said common sence bring me to the conclusoon he was executed by the police. The only person who knows the truth is gone . All we have to do is now speculate.

Anonymous said...

That's Halarious!! When I read all of the comments that where made! This website is starting to be like El Blog Del Narco. Alot of knuckle heads with opinions! and then again, you know the saying about opinions!!! Everyone is either an expert or a walking encyclopedia.... Leave the comments to the people that are from the IMMEDIATE area San Diego-Tijuana. si no sabes como corre el agua para que opinas!! Just like I wouldn't comment on the broncas that occur in Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Monterrey, or Nuevo Laredo todos esos estados son ajenos. Dejen comentarios que valgan la pena... Respetosamente: Flores-San Diego, California

Anonymous said...

Estan Como Los chotas de Juarez pero los de Juarez neta que se pasan de marranos esas mendigas ratas cada semana sacan tantos asesinatos y lebantamientos que be la gente asiendose enemigos de la raza.. Por eso Los matan por corruptotes a todos esos chotas mamones

Anonymous said...

Its definitely a crazy story whatever the truth maybe. I would like to see some pics of the police vehicles, did they have bullet holes? How was he driving and shooting handcuffed? Did he stop and start blasting b/c he recognized them to be the ones that aided in his kidnapping? The point is you have to read into all these stories because you probably never get the truth. P.s. that guy needed new bodyguards anyway , those guys died without guns in their hands.

Anonymous said...

The municipal cops were for sure in on it. He wouldn't have fired on them if not. This guy did what he had to do....damn shame....of course the muni cops will look like heroes for taking down a criminal. Seeing this shit makes me so glad to live in the U.S. We may take the drugs but we wouldn't allow this shit to take place here. Mexican americans, blacks, whites....our lives here are too good to watch our surroundings spiral. We'd be sweeping out the trash.

Chivis said...

I posted an update not much but I thought I should pass in on...Paz, Chivis

@6:24PM

I have scoured all regional media fotos and vids. there are two vids and 8 photos. I did not see one police vehicle sustaining bullet holes, not in windshelds, nor body. There is one vehicle with the hood up but it appears to have rammed the black vehicle intentionally or otherwise. I could not see a close up of that vehicle so it is possible it sustained bullet damage...but my money says "no"..

Anonymous said...

its going to get bad again here.

Anonymous said...

Z40 was never in the military...

Anonymous said...

I hope this doesn't affect my visits to Adelita's bar.

Anonymous said...

So did his wife set him up????

Anonymous said...

Thanks Chivis for the info i was questioning the shoot out with the police.

Anonymous said...

@03/30 4:56PM,
Hey bro, if you don't like the comments then get the fuck off the site..bitch! No one cares about your "opinion" with regards to people's comments. Dude, what a fucking troll!

Anonymous said...

I'm packing the family into the minivan for a spring vacation to Tijuana, I'll post about any murders, public shootouts, kidnappings, or torture we happen to see while we're there.

Chivis said...

@12:25AM...looks that way. and the "wife" most likely is a spare..My guess he also had one in Sinaloa

Anonymous said...

11:46...hahahah Adalitas Bar. A wise man once said.."In life you will never find the kind of girl you are looking for. But at Adalita's, you will find at least six". Same goes with Ensenada. We used to take twenty of us to fish our of Sergeios. No mas.

Anonymous said...

I think this event is tide to el chapo almost being caught in cabo. A lieutenant messing up and was called to tj to be taken out and making it look like it was tj cartel killing him. Former military involved? Of course their going to say that! Reality is that the captors screwed up by not having more seasoned sicarios watching him. I wonder if the generals in baja are involved.

Anonymous said...

How could the two guards near the SUV not be involved in the kidnapping if they were in the scene? The victim who shot the cops knew they were in on it or at least thought those cops were working for the cartels. MX strikes again, can't defend yourself.

Anonymous said...

on my personal basis...keep killing chapitos everywhere!!! soon thier protection from calderon will end and then watch how the cowards fromm cds will run...thatas why they are killing them everywhere,even in culiacan!!!!jajajaja y el chapo apa!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

good times in adelitas.

Flamboyant-Zlayer said...

word on the street is that he attempted to meet a minor for sexual pleasure, and the parents found the FB acc and reported him to the local cops, which passed the tip to the gunmen.

Anonymous said...

Flamboyant-Zlayer .
Bro,thats what i heard,but it wasn't that they objected.They objected to the rubber leggings and high heels HE wanted to wear,apparently he was a bit of a freak.And the sics,were supposed to be mad,because they seen him in his high heels runnin away,and he was gonna tell all their compas that they smashed him for hours.He got the gun first,dealt with them,and ran into the police who saw a dude in stockings and high heels runnin at them with a gun in his hand.
Thats the word on the street.

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