Monday, March 5, 2012

'El Chapito' & El CAF


El Chapito & El CAF

Octavio Leal Hernandez, 'El Chapito', has been linked in recent accounts to the Sinaloa Cartel power structure in Baja, California, the new Zeta Magazine report contradicts these reports, instead linking Leal Hernandez with the group of Fernando Sanchez Arellano, 'El Ingeniero'.

Octavio Leal Hernandez was a private secretary and close confidante of Juan Sillas Rocha, 'El Sillas', or 'El Ruedas', and documents state that the two were dining together at a restaurant in Tijuana, hours before Sillas Rocha was detained by police, after the attempted murder, of former lieutenant 'El Marquitos'.

It was after Sillas arrest, that Sanchez Arellano, promoted 'El Chapito', to take over the network formerly held by Sillas. This group is empowered to enforce the will of it's superiors, at the behest of Sanchez Arellano, including executions, and kidnappings. Intelligence reports state that 'El Chapito' is one of the closest to the leader of the CAF, and is known to be as violent and headstrong as Ramon Arellano Felix. Leal Hernandez, along with Sillas Rocha were two of the principal leaders of actions against Eduardo Teodoro Garcia, and his group, during the struggle for Tijuana, between 2008 and 2010.

Leal Hernandez, also nicknamed 'killer', allegedly participated in the kidnapping of the nieces of El Mayo Zambada, in Tijuana, September 2010., as well as the kidnapping of the Diane Lopez Uriarte, sister of Raydel Lopez Uriarte, 'El Muletas', in February 2010. 'El Chapito' was born in the state of Puebla, on December 6, 1980, and is 5'2, which is where his nickname originated. Official reports state that he spent his time in Tijuana, under protection, with houses in Sanchez Tadoba, and La Mesa. Leal Hernandez is also alleged to take refuge in Ensenada and his home state of Puebela, when there is problems in Tijuana.

Officially, it is said Chapito is above Melvin Gutierrez, 'El Melvin', but both groups are considered strong in the Playas de Tijuana, and Zona Centro areas, engaged in retail distribution, and wholesale trafficking across the border. Leal Hernandez gained exposure during the bloody months of November and December 2009 when Los Teos and the people of Sillas Rocha aggressively engaged each other in the city, due to the theft of 150 kilograms of methamphetamine from El Teo. There are members of the Sinaloa Cartel with the same nicknames, so authorities were initially confused.

Chapito was also, reportedly responsible for murders that occurred in March of 2010, in Colonia Tres De Octubres in Tijuana. Retail drug dealers in that area had been giving up a percentage of profits to Los Teos, and Chapito was sent to align them with 'El Ingeniero', taking back territory lost during the conflict.

A year later, November 2010, Chapito was again engaged against Los Teos, and the people of Alfredo Arteaga 'El Aquiles'. who were both attacking the group of Sillas Rocha, though they were not aligned. On November 19, when two bodies were hanged from the Los Alamos bridge in Tijuana, a note was left against Leal Hernandez, 'Here's your people, killer'. They were answered back days later, when a Nissan Maxima with two corpses appeared, with a response, 'Heres your fucking people Aquiles, bring balls to the fight'- Ramon Arellano, from hell. And another, left with a severed head, 'This happened to me for walking with Aquiles people'.

Despite their hierarchical position and documented cases of high impact violence, there are no active arrest warrants for either the arrest of El Chapito or El Melvin. 18 months ago authorities pledged that arrest warrants had been issued for Fernando Sanchez Arellano, but, at this date, there are no active warrants for his arrest in Tijuana. Chapito is also suspected of threatening Zeta Magazine, last month, after a report about the criminal activities of 'El Melvin'.

Sources, Zeta Tijuana, AFN Tijuana.

(All Credit is with Zeta, this is essentially just a rewording of the relevant sections of their article)

91 comments:

  1. Excellent work J.

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  2. CAF si es cartel, no chingaderas. decian que el caf estava terminado, pero no pudieron ni pueden aser lo. Los arellano siempre van a rifar.

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  3. Este es la verdad, he did participate in that kidnapping. El chapito leal no es bienvenido en Culiacán....you never fuck with the people of El Mayo.....al 100 GN

    El lobo

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  4. Great Information!
    Cds

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  5. el chapito is a chapete puro pinche mamon these guys aint a factor

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  6. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    EL CAF COMO LE A DICHO ALOS IDIOTAS QUE SIGUEN QUERIENDO QUE EL CAF SE ACABE AQUI MANDAMOS NOSOTROS Y SE QUIEREN PAGAR PLAZA SE LE PERMITEN TRABAJAR PERO SI QUIEREN BRINCAR LA CUOTA OTRO GALLO CANTARA SOY EL TB ARRIBA LAS MUCHAS PLEBES DEL CAF Y GRACIAS ALA GRAN FAMILIA POR SU LEALTAD Y MATARNOS EL HAMBRE Y ABRIRNOS LA PUERTA PARA ALA OPORTUNIDAD DE ASER ALGUEN EN LA VIDA PURO TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA ASTA LA MUERTE CON LA GRAN FAMILIA Y DUENOS DE BAJA CALIFORNIA

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  7. ITS funny how each and every one of you bad mouth the Arellano FelixCartel when they are still makeing billions with all the heat and hate focused on Z and CDS EL INGE and caballo Enedina still in command and focusing on the monetary compensation instead of violence and bringing the heat in to the T.J plaza CAF is prepared with hit squads all throughout Mexico and the USA the ARELLANOS will never lose the plaza to any body its paid FOR i see people here thinking they are apart of CHAPOS people because of the music you here and want to have a shootout with a key board so for those people im going to school you in about el INGE why do they call him that? they also call him el topo answer is hes the engineer and he is the Man with the blueprints on Making those famous tunnels and passing tons of tons of drugs across with no detection thats why CAF dont need fancy songs or talk and talk they prove there value by there actions and goals they accomplish

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  8. Los Arellano siempre van a rifar. Que es lo que rifan? Venden boletos y rifan productos?

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    1. Jajaja!!! Te la sacaste brother! Tambien me da risa cuando dicen que andan bien "pilas".

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    2. Jajajaja good one and funny!


      G(-)057

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  9. Known criminal,known crimes, no action by Police sounds Mexican to me! Hell when the PRI gets back in they will name a street after him.And the bitch because the country is a mess???

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    1. don't know whats going on I Mexico, just talking without any knowledge on the subject. You sound like a red neck to me.

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  10. @CAF you are full of shit, and you are not schooling anyone with your crap. The tunnels have been in used before he even came to be a leader of the Arellano Felix, obviously it has nothing to do with his fucking alias.
    About them making billions, honestly I don't think so, many of these people are also involved on theft, kidnappings, extortion and to many more crimes. If they were making bank with drug trafficking most likely you will see it. Most of the time when police arrest these people their conditions are horrible, the way they look, the clothes they wear and many other things.
    Look at the properties of El Teo, El Muletas, and El Chiquilin, these are the people who were fighting hand to hand against El Ingeniero. A few million dollars don't make a billion, a billion has 9 zeros my CAF friend.

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  11. Javier Mendoza Uriarte es el Chapito del Cartel de Sinaloa, es de la linea del Tigre.

    I find very funny how CAF fanclub react to the note, they are so desperate to prove they still active and they jump like childrens in Christmas and start telling stories about CAF this and CAF that when they finally see a note about this forgotten group.


    The truth is that CAF remains active, perhaps more than people thinks, but they are far from the image you guys are painting. CAF coexist with other groups in an invaded plaza, none pays plaza to them, nor Aquiles who is friendly to them, less el Tigre who is hostile, how in hell you can explain they pay and at the same time are battling in some places?? hoo i know, they aren't paying thats why the fight.

    El Inge cobra only to they operators and to the michoacanos but theres no way CDS cells are paying to him. And don't make start, there is a lot of reason to see this, only a blind can't see this.

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  12. I read some of these "liberal" comments on here about how there is "NO SPILLOVER" violence in the USA. Well, I`ve got news, TEXAS, especially South Texas experiences PLENTY of spillover violence. Let me ask the what`s the name,SiskyouKID???, Have you driven down to Rio Grande City lately? Had any solid black Suburbans try and pull you over? Try to run you off the road? Had to outrun them doing over 100 miles an hour? Been told by the local in RGC to NOT be on a certain road from RGC to HWY 281 after dark?

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    1. Who the hell says that? Rio Grande City is invated by Border Patrol, State Troopers, Sherrif's Deputies and Rio PD. You should drive through Rio and see it for yourself. Its funny how people create stories with alot of imagination. Oh and if such street excist please give me the name of it. I would love to drive through it.

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  13. There`s 2 Chapitos in Baja right now, one is the cousion of Raydel Uriarte aka Muletas, that chapito is the one with the Sinaloa Cartel, Chapito Leal is a CAF enforcer, like the article says, he was in the Sillas cell, some say he is the one responsible for the kidnapping of the Zambada women, others that he was the one in Culiacan who left the messages signed by "Ramon Arellano from hell". Who he really is? IDK.

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  14. A pobre gente mamandole el miembro a los de Chinaloa. Chinaloa Paga plaza muy bien reportado esta Tijuana sigue siendo del CAF. eso si Chinaloa se apodero de Mexicali Cuando Guilillo Chapulinio por culo.

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  15. My understanding, (a relative term) was that El Tigre was on the outside of everybody, that both Aquiles and Inge have problems with him. That element of it it is confusing, whether CDS pays or doesn't pay, I can see it both ways, but the fact that there are groups that are friendly, and those that are hostile, under the same flag, is an odd thing.

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  16. you guys are geting schooled again and listen you Idiots who is la RANA ?? he was a main CAF hitter he got busted his son Rana and aquiles eran gente del Ingeniero when teo and muletas were fighting the plaZa vs EL INGE THE DEAL FROM BOTH SIDES WAS TO ELIMINATE ALL THE MANGUERAS THE KIDS THAT WERE USING THE NAME TO CAUSE ATTENTION AND THEY CLEANED THERE CELLS AND STARTED THE WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER WITH EL TEO GETING HELP FROM CDS WHICH WAS USELESS ,THE QUESTION I ASK YOU GUYS WHY DO YOU THINK CAF IS DONE ???DO THEY NEED CORRIDOS ?? AND All THAT TELENOVELA STUFF THAT CDS NEEDS THE REALITY IS THAT CHAPO AND MAYO WITH OUT THE BELTRAN LEYVA CARTEL THERE A BUNCH OF SISSSYS SOME HISTORY 25 YEARS FIGHTING THE TIJUANA PLAZA AND CDS HAS NEVER EVER EVEN BEEN CLOSE TO WINNING CDS CANT BEAT JUAREZ AND LA LINIA IN CHIHUAHUA GENTE NUEVA JAJAJA DUMB KIDS WITH ASSAULT RIFFLES THEY SHOOT 100 TIMES AND HIT THERE TARGET 2 TIMES NOT EVEN CDG AND CT AND CDS CANT STAND THERE GROWN VS LOS Z WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ???YES THEY HAVE THE MONEY BUT THERE HITMEN ARE NO GOOD IN GUASAVE CHAPOYSIDRO IS DESTROYNG ANTRAX AND CDS IT SHOWS YOU THE GREED EL CHAPO AND MAYO ARE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH NOTHING THEY TRYED TO TAKE BY FORCE BY BEING RATS AND THEY CANT HANDLE IT THEY RAGED A WAR AND THEY DONT FIGHT IT WHAT HAPPEND TO LFM ?? THEY USED THEM TO DESTROY LOS Z AND Z WIPED THEM OUT CDG IS NEXT TO GO AND GN THEY AINT NADA SO LEARN YOUR FACTS IM FROM SINALOA UN PUEBLO QUE SE LLAMA PERIKO POR LADO DE CULIACAN CRECI EN TIJUANA Y AQUI SE SABE QUE LA GENTE DE AQUI SABE TRABAJAR PURO TJ PESE AQUIEN LE PESE!!AQUI PAGAN PLAZA NO SE HAGAN PENDEJOS QUE NO POR CADA KILO SON 2,000.00QUE SE PASA POR TJ

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    1. Pobre pendego, mire compa. Im with you on the fact that el chapo is a rat, but the LFM aint dead, so o estas pendego o nada mas te ases pendego. Si quieres comprobar que LFM is alive and well, parate por Zamora t Tangancicuaro Michoacan. Por Neza en el DF Y POR Guerrero y Leon, Guanaguato y veras que pendego estas. The z are loosing plazas from Neza and Leon to LFM. To Jalisco and Vera Cruz to the CJNG AND zacatecas, Quintana Roo and N. L too the CDG and latelly the CJNG so all that bs of the z being strong is bullahit. Y en cuanto a los CAF aparte DE LA.PINCHE MITAD DE TJ QUE OTRA PLAZA CONTROLAN?Ninguna jajaja pobres mierdas.

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  17. @March 5, 2012 10:03 PM
    No puedes decir que una plaza le pertenece a un grupo cuando otro hace y deshace el desmadre que quiere, impone sus reglas y el grupo que supuestamente controla esa plaza no mueve ni un dedo para poner orden o aplacar a los otros. Hay una gran diferencia entre rentar plaza y ceder parte del territorio, ustedes nunca lo van a aceptar, pero los echos ahi estan quieran o no.

    @March 5, 2012 10:33 PM

    LOOOL...that's all i have to say.

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  18. @J obviously the CAF is embedded in Tijuana, but they don't control as much as they used to. After the arrest of El Teo the CAF didn't get Teo's people back, that is a sign of weakness.

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  19. @CAF when you talk about rats, what are you talking about exactly? Everyone knows all cartels use corrupted officials to fight their enemies. CAF has used corrupted officials to give information to U.S. authorities.

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  20. CAF you are full of shit.

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  21. @caf when a FEW La Familia gunmen when renegade in Tijuana and where killiing and extorting people from leftt to right the CAF enforcers didn't want to try and stop them you know what they did? They asked CDS to calm them down and the sinaloa operaters in baja talked to the LFMs in Michoacan and got the green light to take them out because they had gone renegade and weren't listening to anyone. so my question to you is what would of happened if LFM in its peak back in 2009 would have said fuck caf and sent some of its heavy hitters who were used back in the day when the zetas got killed ? These guys aren't like CDS they fight they're oppenents face to face unlike the sinaloa boys who run to the police

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    1. Agreed, if I know that fucking shorty he probably soldout the LFM gunmen members to the Mrxican Marina or the Soldiers or had the.police kill them in a shootout or arest them so that his guys could kill them as the LFM guys were handcuffed. The only guys who I think are tough from the CDS are Coronels old people the CJNG with El 85 witch was from Michoacan by the way and the soldiers of El Macho Prieto and The az people from El Bravo. Los Antrax suck and Gente Nueva aint shit without their large numbers.

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  22. me hacen reir toda la bola de pendejetes que piensan que son narcos o que de minimo conocen a alguien que conoce a alguien que es narco la neta hagan algo con sus putas vidasss aparte de besarle los huevos a quien ni si quiera conocen cuando cren ustedes que el Inge o el chapo tuvieron el tiempo y las ganas de meterse a ver que ponen una putas viejas mitoteras de ellos aqui?? dejense de mammmadas wannbees el bote esta lleno de pendejetes como ustedes

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  23. Everyone loves that LFM story, when there is really nothing to it, but some LFM weren't paying taxes, and they got killed. No one knows who was supposed to handle it, or who ran to who for help. It's all hearsay. And, if all the reports say they pay taxes, I am not sure what that story proves, or disproves.

    To anon, I am aware of that general sentiment,taking back the Teo's was never something they wanted to do, I don't think, the Teos got a taste of the power and money of kidnapping/extortion, and being 'their own boss'.

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  24. Dayum,we got lots of cartel members on deck?Or wannabes.Over here we got CAF/TJ.Over there we got puro 100 GN/alias de El Lobo (the wolf)?
    Perdone senore,if i sound a little divertido.
    You know what,i hope they are for real.I really do no joking.Players are exactly the gente we need and want on here.Who knows better than them.So i hope they are for real.They are the ones we want on here,givin us the heads up on certain things.

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  25. First & foremost,alot of you here on this forum probably werent even born when the Arellanos came to Tijuana from Guadalajara.(yet,they are from Sinaloa)And just so you know,this Organization was started by others.Chuy Labra,Jose Contreras Subias,El Caballo Galindo & then came the Arellanos.Subias was one of the leaders up until hes arrest in the late 80s.(Even though Subias was arrested in Costa Rica with Caro Quintero in 85 & extradited to Tijuana)As for the war that took place for the Tijuana Plaza,it didnt start no 25 yrs ago!Anon March 5, 2012 10:33 PM.You are wrong!The war started against Guzman & Zambada in 92,although there were certain events that caused riffs between the Arellanos & Guzman & Zambada before this.Like the death of Ramon Lopez aka El Rayo De Sinaloa.As for "La Rana",are you reffering to Jose Humberto Ramirez Banuelos?"He" was a main hitter!!And if you want to talk about rats,well how about Ismael Higuera aka El Mayel & his younger brother Gilillo?Not to mention El Kitty Paez & Benjamin Arellano himself!!Oh,& lets not leave out El Pit Zazueta,Pato Quinones,& countless others that are in the Witness protection program!These are facts...REAL HISTORY!!

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  26. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 6, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    THIS IS FOR THE IDIOTS TAKING SHOTS AT EL CAF WHY GO ANONYMOUS HAVE THE BALLS TO PUT YOURE NAME UP AND SECOND TIJUANA DRUG CARTEL HAS ALWAYS RENTED THERE TERRITORY AS LONG AS THEY PAY A FEE REMEMBER YOU FUCKEN IDIOTS 1998 FERMIN CASTRO FAMILY IN ENSENADA I HATE ANONYMOUS MIGHT AS WELL CALL YOURESELF BITCHES CAUSE YOU GOT NO BALLS YO SOY EL TB DE TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA ARRIBA LAS PLEBES DEL CAF ONE MORE THING IF cds IS SOOOOOO POWERFUL WHY ARE THE PAYING A FEE WHY NOT FINISH WITH EL CAF PENDEJOS

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  27. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 6, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    SALUDOS CAF QUE CHINGEN A SU MADRE ESTOS JOTOS DEL chapo FANS

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  28. March 6, 2012 11:41 AM .Hermano.Te escucho ,
    specially if you play the game.But we all wish to know about the different factions and trabajo,that is all senore.Saludos.

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  29. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 6, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    Esto es muy basico EL CAF CONTROLA LO QUE ENTRA EN BAJA CALIFORNIA NORTE BIEN CONTROLADO HASTA SAN DIEGO Y MAS PAYA PIENSEN EN ESTADOS UNIDOS CON RESPETO ALOS QUE MURIERON EN 9-11 POR LOS TERRORISTAS DESPUES DE TODO ESTO PERMITEN GENTE DE ESE ORIGEN QUE VIVAN EN EL PAIS SABIENDO QUE HAY UN 90% QUE SEAN TERRORISTAS PERO VINIEN Y TRABAJAN PAGAN INPUESTOS PERO CON POLICIAS Y FBI Y CIA LOS CONTROLAN Y TAMBIEN LOS TIENEN CERCA PARA SABER DE SUS MOVIMIENTOS MAS BIEN CONOCER SUS MOVIMIENTOS Y AL MISMO TIEMPO GASTANDO DINERO Y PAGANDO IMPUESTO HACIENDO LA ECONOMIA TRABAJAR AHORA SE INDIFICA QUE ESTADOS UNIDOS ES DEBIL CLARO QUE NO ES MAS FUERTE POR CONOCER Y CONTROLAR TODO CON GENTE REAL ESO ES NOMAS UN EJEMPLO AHORA IMAGINESEN EL PODER DEL CAF CON GENTE MUCHO MAS PELIGROSA QUE HASEN SUS PROPIAS LEYES Y LAS IMPONEN PERO LOS CIVILES SE RESPETAN Y NINOS ESPECIAL MENTE EL CAF PONE SUS REGLAS Y CUANDO HAY UNA ORDEN NO SE DISCUTE SOY EL TB ARRIBA LAS PLEBES DEL CAF Y SALUDOS @CAF

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  30. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 6, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I HEAR AND SMELL BACON IN THIS SITE ME DESPIDO EL TB DE TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA TRUCHA MUCHACHOS HAY PLACAS AQUI MI CHAVOS

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  31. Anon at 1:39: Alot of good information in that post, keep going up to date.

    El Pit is the one who gave up what Inge looks like, and I guess it is true, Benjamen is giving up information, which is partly why he got that 25 year deal. I believe Javier gave up info too, but I am not sure.

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  32. @GENTE DE TIJUANA You are a funny ass mother fucker, calling yourself Tijuanero and using words like (plebes) from Sinaloa. Once again Tijuana men, you are a bad copy.
    Since you claim to be so knowledgeable can you please tell me, how much rent El Teo and his people was paying.

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  33. @ GENTE DE TIJUANA,I can see why you get upset & state that some take shots at CAF,pero some of these comments do state facts.Anon March 6, 2012 1:39 PM gave a bit of history & if you know anything about Tijuas & its passed then you know this is true!Y no se le olvide compa que en todas las Organizaciones existen Ratas/Dedos/Soplones o como les quieran llamar.En Tijuas deberian de ponerle bosales a los mangueritas,porque esos desprestigian el esfuerzo y esmero de los que si saben trabajar.Mis respetos para la Baja y su gente que se amarra y no suelta la lengua!!

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  34. @ GENTE DE TIJUANA-"ARRIBA LAS PLEBES DE TIJUANA"?Si te refieres a las edecanes,chicas Tecate,Modelo,Tel-Cel o las porristas de Xolos,Hell yeah!Esas plebes estan mega-buenas!

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  35. Benjamin Arellano got a sweet deal because the US Attorney, Laura Duffy, is a "mealy-mouthed traitor," and sold everybody (victims, witnesses and the public) out because she got her presidential selection from the case against the Arellanos. She doesn't want to deal with it anymore and has shit on those who helped bring these monsters to the US for prosecution. He is not cooperating although everybody does to save their own ass. He just got a sweet deal because the US Attorney's Office in San Diego is weak and irresponsible. Please get rid of the bitch!

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  36. @ @ GENTE DE TIJUANA .Bro,dont get twisted,even if you do smell bacon on here.So what?Fuck em. What can they do or find?
    @ March 7, 2012 12:32 AM .Ey man,everybody got loose lips.Even the one who do know trabajar,for ever.On here not a problem.But in the real world,can get people murked,collared,followed,all kinds of shit.Ten cuidado Saludos bro.

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  37. March 7, 2012 11:36 AM What are you talking about a SWEET DEAL, as a Mexican national they can only get 30 years max or else Mexico would not extradite them to face charges. Haven't you people noticed? None of the extradited Mexicans have ever gotten more than 30 years.

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  38. .En Tijuas deberian de ponerle bosales a los mangueritas,porque esos desprestigian el esfuerzo y esmero de los que si saben trabajar.Mis respetos para la Baja y su gente que se amarra y no suelta la lengua!!

    Si tu como no, cada que caen cabrones cantan como canarios, hasta los mismos Arellano soltaron la sopa.

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  39. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 7, 2012 at 4:43 PM

    ESTO LE VA AL PENDEJO JOTITO MENDIGOS ANONYMOS los teos ERAN UN GRAN PARTE DE LA FAMILIA Y SE LE CONFIO PERO LO AGARRARON EN LA MAROMA INFORMATE BIEN PENDEJA ANONIMA Y ANTES DE LA BALACERA 2008 QUE NI LOS HUEVOS TUVO PARA ESTAR ALLI ESTABAN PAGANDO SU LADO DE LA PLAZA DESPUES DE ESE ENFRENTAMIENTO CORRIO el muletas sin las muletas y teo rodo hasta caer en la riata del chapito y se los cojieron bien y bonito y si no sabias en 4 ocasiones teo quiso que LA GUERRA SE ACABARA PERO SE LE ACABO LA CONFIANSA QUE SE LE ABIA DEPOSITADO ahora el teo era bravo PERO EL SENOR TAMBIEN SIGUE SIENDO BRAVO Y CON INTELLIGENCIA CUAL QUIER PENDEJO PUEDE JALAR UN JUEGO PERO TENER INTELLIGENCIA Y VALENTIA Y SABER TRATAR ALA GENTE POR ESO ESTA PRESO el teo y el muletin PENDEJOS ANONIMOS INFORMENSEN BIEN ANTES DE SER ME ENCABRONAR PENDEJOS @CAF SALUDOS MI CHAVO LA FAMILIA MANDA AQUI EN BAJA OH OTRA COSA SABIAN ENUTILES QUE EL 65 PORCIENTO de los teo REGRESARON AL CAF DURANTE LOS ENFRENTAMIENTOS 2008 -2010 Y SALUDOS ALOS ZETAS Y LOS BELTRAN Y JUAREZ

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  40. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    ANONIMAS SI VAN A HABLAR TENGAN LOS PANTALONES PARA PONER SU NOMBRE DE QUE SE PRECUPAN EL CAF SEGUN ESTA ACABADO ?? SO DE QUE TIENEN MIEDO YO SOY EL TB DE TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA Y EL QUE SE OFENDA QUE CHINGE SU MADRE

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  41. @ GENTE DE TIJUANA QUE ONDA LOCO AQUI RIFAN LOS ARETES AUNQUE LES PESE A TODA ESTA BOLA DE PENDEJOS QUE ESCUCHAN EL MOVIMIENTO ALTERADO Y SE CREEN GENTE DEL CHAPO EL INGE SIGUE MANDANDO Y SI SE MOTIVAN CON CORRIDOS BOLA DE PUTONES EL CHAPULIN COLORADO NO PUEDE CON LOS BELTRANES EN SINALOA NI COL LOS DEL CARTEL DE JUAREZ EN NAVOLATO QUE VA ANDAR HACIENDO EN OTRAS PLAZAS PINCHE COME SOLO !!!!CAF SIGUE THE SKYS THE LIMIT,,,,EL INGENIERO 2011 ...MENOS RUYDO Y MAS ACCION ES EL LEMA DE NOSOTROS ME RESPALDA MUCHA GENTE PODEROSA Y MUY VIOLENTA ESTA COMPANIA NO ES NUEVA SE FUNDO ALLA EN LOS OCHENTA IMPOSIBLE QUE NOS TUMBEN LO QUE SOBRA ES EXPERENCIA ...

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  42. GENTE DE TIJUANA I smell bacon? jiar jiar jiar it most be your fat pig mother.

    I'm not defending El Teo but you said El Teo wasn't there in the shootout on 2008. Was El Ingeniero there? I'm sure if Ramon was alive he would have been there.

    The thing is that you said the CAF has total control, when el Teo was roaming the streets he was killing your people and selling at will, a single CAF lieutenant give you guys a run for your money and killed many of your people something unheard off whenn Ramon was alive. At the end, it was not you people the ones who got him, it was the military the ones who arrested El Teo, La Perra, El Chiquiling, El Muletas and El Sillas.
    If you are a Tijuana man, why are you using words from Sinaloa like PLEBES? Are you a bad copy? Can you at least be original? I will be honest I don't give a fuck about any of you people, all of you can die for all I care. You are going around talking about how much money you are making and at the end you got nothing to show for, even El Ingeniero would allow kidnapping for you people to have some money to spend.
    By the way I'm El JT from Tijuana Baja California and I eat beacon for breakfast.

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  43. @CAF,Listen up man!If you were really a part of this Organization you wouldnt be on this forum divulging secrets such as that about El Ingeniero being called El Topo.Besides,the ones that do belong to the Gente & know how to work would never expose themselves the way you are doing.Y La Gente de Tijuana no se revuelca con los Zs.Dont forget,Zs kidnap,rob,steal & rape as well as kill kids!Isnt that against CAF orders,rules & regulations?Ask your boy "TB".And just so you know,the first tunnel of any signaficance was found back in 93,on the curb by the airport!Y no era del CAF,sorry to burst your bubble!

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  44. @CAF THE ONLY ONE SCHOOLING PEOPLE HERE IS March 6, 2012 1:39 PM YOU ARE ONLY WORDS MY FRIEND.

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  45. March 7, 2012 5:02 PM @CAF JIAR JIAR JIAR EL BURRO Y EL CONEJO HABLANDO SOBRE OREJAS, BIENES AQUÍ LEVANTANDO POLVO COMO TORTILLERA, (MENOS RUIDO Y MAS ACCIÓN ES EL LEMA DE NOSOTROS) POR ESO MUCHA GENTE SE FUE A TRABAJAR CON EL CHAPO, POR LA ACCIÓN. (GENTE PODEROSA Y MUY VIOLENTA ESTA COMPAÑÍA NO ES NUEVA SE FUNDO ALLÁ EN LOS OCHENTA IMPOSIBLE QUE NOS TUMBEN LO QUE SOBRA ES EXPERIENCIA) OJALA LA EXPERIENCIA LES SIRVA A Benjamín Arellano, Francisco Javier Arellano Y A TODAS TUS OTRAS DAMAS DE ACCIÓN QUE ESTÁN TRAS LAS REJAS.

    I WANT YOU TO KNOW ONE THING CHEERLEADER MAN, WITH OUT CORRUPTION YOU PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT COMMON CRIMINALS.

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  46. Ladies & Gentleman of this forum,this is Anon March 6, 2012 1:39,& Im not here to school or offend anyone.I dont belong to any DTO mentioned here & I dont cheer for anyone,I just want to share a bit of public knowledge & some of what I was entrusted with way back when.What I share here with you on this forum can not & will not cause anyone any problems of any type,shape,or form.I noticed some were offended by what many know to be facts & not personal opinions.If you are familiar with the business then you should know that even the toughest of the pistoleros end up cooperating with the governmnet,be it American or Mexican.Look at Amado Carrillo,he payed Gen.Rebollo to go after the Arellanos & it was all because he feared "Mon" Ramon Arellano.And that is a fact,its common knowledge that Rebollo captured one of the Hodoyan brothers & tortured him until he told them stories concerning Ramon.Just so that the readers get an idea of where & how I know a bit about the business,I spent 20 yrs in the B.O.P & C.D.C prison systems.I had the opportunity to drink a cup of Chanate with some "REAL GENTE",I also read a book or two,pero los viejones had the courtesy to set some of the events straight for me.The "1" thing those Viejones dont like is for people to speak on or about something they know very little about.So,thats where my bit of knowledge comes from.De las experiencias de la vida real y uno que otro de sus participantes!!

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  47. La detencion de Chuy Labra y la muerte de Ramon fueron el principio del fin para el verdadero "CAF"!Don Chuy,Benjamin y Ramon jamas hubieran permitido el inundar Tijuana con tienditas!Y si alguien de aqui en verdad los conocia saben que digo la verdad...

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  48. People,people,this is a forum for sharing anything you feel like talking about that is cartel related.Personally,i am not going to start insulting real players,because theY CAF/BLO/Z/CDS/CDG,whoever.These are the guys we should encourage,because lets face it,we are all here because we are interested in this situation.I don't care what someones credentials are,if they want to share something interesting,right on.Real players from different crews will insult each other,of course they will,they trying to fuckin murk each other,but the non players don't start acting like keyboard bangers,or you know whats up cause you smoke a bit of green.Real players..
    Saludos Senores,you are welcome here !!!

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  49. March 7, 2012 9:44 PM Kiss my ass dude "REAL GENTE" bitch please. Is exactly this type of attitude that get people mad, you are acting like @CAF and @GENTE DE TIJUANA all full of shit. You people act like if you were something to be admire, must likely you are nothing but common criminals, low level drug dealers at most. No real players will have time to be on a blog talking shit or talking about who they are.
    I'm El JL from Tijuana Baja California.

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  50. Haven't you people noticed, someone talks about CAF and many people get all wet thinking the CAF is still famous.

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  51. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    @CAF QUE CHINGEN SU MADRE ESTOS ANONIMAS NI GASTEMOS NUESTRO TIEMPO ALLA LO VEA EN LA BAJA MI CHAVO COMO VOY E LEVANTAR AL PUTO ANONIMA DEL BACON ABER SI ME DEMUESTRA EL VALOR QUE DEMOSTRO AQUI PURO TIJUANA Y LA GRAN FAMILIA QUE CONTROLA TODO

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    1. La DEA ya ni los considera un cartel, ahora los llaman The Arellano Felix Organization o AFO jajaja, la gran familia media muerta o entambada que no controla mas que menis,de la mitad de ua mugrosa ciudad tercermundista jajaja you guys are funny, dumb fucks here cheering from some fucking cartel well fuck all of you.

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  52. GENTE DE TIJUANAMarch 8, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    @JL TU YO ME ENCUENTRO POR EL CASINO TU TE APELLIDO EMPIEZA CON LA P NO QUIERO DAR TU APELLIDO COMPLETO PRIMO SI ERES EL JL YO TE CONOZCO EN EL 2009 EN PLAYAS DE TIJUANA EN UNE FIESTA ESTAMOS EN GRUPOS DIFFERENTES POR AHORA SOY S-11 ANTES CONOCIDO COMO EL TB DE TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA SALUDO @CAF ESTA ES MI ULTIMO POST PURO PADELANTE LAS PLEBES PESADAS DE LA GRAN FAMILIA EN BAJA CALIFORNIA

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  53. the afo is not famous but very well alive 20+ years and the dea has not killed them

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  54. One thing, among many, I would like to know, is who is 'El Aquiles', not so much who he is, but where did he come from? Was he with Teo originally? I can't remember his name from the Teo survivors, El Tomate, El Paul, etc. Has he been with Sinaloa always?

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  55. @ anon March 8, 2012 2:50 PM,Re-read my comment & you'll see I made it clear that I dont belong to any DTO or cheer for anyone!Being in the joint I met people from different circles!And by "Real Gente" I mean Contreras Subias (along with others)who happened to do Fed time in Phoenix,T.I,Florence Col. & there were others you probably wouldnt even know about.So do yourself a favor & try to conceal your illiteracy & ignorance because you are making yourself look bad!

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  56. March 8, 2012 7:01 PM Whatever dude, after you post it that you did 20 years I believe you are full of shit. No matter what you say now I believe you are a lier.

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  57. @ anon March 8, 2012 7:43 PM Read & pay attention to what I am about to write here...I know what I've done,I know were I've been & I sure as hell know where I'm going!I dont have to prove a fucking thing to a manguera such as yourself.I'm not a kid as you would like to think I am.If you dont believe what I write I wont lose any sleep over it.Other readers know that what I'm writing here are facts.Lo que tu pienses me vale verga!Pinche Ciber-Sicario con aires de traficante.Do the math idiot,my CDC prison # started with an "H" my Fed # ended with 198...do you have any idea of what I'm explaining to you here?I didnt think so!

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  58. @ anon March 8, 2012 7:43 PM,I forgot to mention,that "what you believe in"& "what you know" are two different things!For example,I dont believe you're an idiot,I know you are!!Thats the difference between Knowing & Believing!

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  59. IF ANYONE KNOWS WHO March 6, 2012 1:39 PM IS, CAF AND GENTE DE TIJUANA PLEASE CONTACT THE DEA IN ARIZONA 602-664-5600 OR SAN DIEGO 858-616-4100 THANK YOU.

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  60. @ anon March 9, 2012 10:22 PM,Is that supposed to scare someone?You're a fucking joke...pinches dedos,what the fuck is the DEA gonna prosecute me for?I'll be call them my self...pinches payasos!!

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    1. Chinga tu madre way, how does conspiracy sound to you? Gust a thought paisano.

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  61. @anonima DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU DOING POSTING dea NUMBER VATOS LIKE YOU GET HUNGED FROM BRIDGES OR DECAPITATED ARE WE SUPPOSE TO BE SCARED YOU NEED TO VERY CAREFUL SOMEONE DONT FIND YOU CAUSE THEY HAVE TRACKED AND KILLED PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR POSTING SHIT LIKE THIS JUST LOOK AT LAST YEAR PURO TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA AQUI MANDA LA FAMILIA @CAF SALUDOS CHAVO ESTOS PINCHE DEDOS SE LOS VAN ALLEVAR ALA VERGA POR ESO SON ANONIMAS

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  62. @ gente de tijuana yeah that has happened but YOU aint gonna do shit you need to get off their nuts and stand on your own two feet

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  63. @GENTE DE TIJUANA Jiar jiar jiar We all have to die one way or another, people like you also die, many people like you will also get hang from a bridge, get killed by police or the military, you are not bullet proved.

    THEY HAVE TRACKED AND KILLED PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR POSTING SHIT LIKE THIS Jiar jiar jiar And what makes you think someone will not track your ass too for divulging secrets.

    Los dedos son los que ustedes se meten en el culo para no cagarse del miedo cuando ven a la militar bola de putos.

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  64. YOU NEED TO VERY CAREFUL SOMEONE DONT FIND YOU CAUSE THEY HAVE TRACKED AND KILLED PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR POSTING SHIT LIKE THIS JUST LOOK AT LAST YEAR

    If this was true, more than just a few people will be dead by now.

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  65. @ Gente de Tijuana y CAF,soy Anon March 6, 2012 1:39 PM,Y no me vine a disculpar pero tampoco a faltarle al respeto a nadie!As I stated before,son hechos lo que escribo.Como tambien es un hecho que aqui existen Ratas/Dedos/Soplones...ejemplo perfecto de esto..."March 9, 2012 10:22 PM".A todos los que si saben trabajar y aguantan vara,les brindo mis respetos!Y a todos los Dedos,Chinguen a su madre junto con su DEA!

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  66. March 11, 2012 12:14 AM This is exactly what I was talking, about you being just like them @CAF and @GENTE DE TIJUANA. You people demand respect, but give none to innocent people whit all your crimes and your bullish. You brain washed people to make them believe that you have honor. Many of you say you are down for the hood, but time and time again we all have seen where your loyalties are, in "MONEY", you people don't give a fuck about anyone but yourselves.

    A Dedo a Rata or Soplones will be those who work with you people. I don't work for you people, I'm not part of your criminal enterprise, the problem with you people is that you believe that silence and integrity is the same thing but is not, you people are showing your ignorance and stupidity like if it was an Olympic Medal. I'm not bound by you're stupidity, I have a mind of my own, and I can think by myself.

    Los dedos son los que ustedes se meten en el culo para no cagarse del miedo cuando ven a la militar o a las autoridades detrás de ustedes bola de putos.

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  67. March 11, 2012 12:14 AM You said you did 20 years in the prison system? You didn't learn anything did you?, obviously you are a carer criminal. Are we supposed to be impressed with your criminal knowledge?

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  68. that guy did not do 20 years people that do time come out of prison and cant use a cell phone much less blog hahaha

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  69. @ANONI HAY LEALTAD EN ESTE NEGOCIO TAMBIEN HAY TRAISON COMO EN TODO EN TU VIDA TU MUJER ALA MEJOR SON DE MUCHAS CASADAS QUE ME LA ESTOY CHINGANDO PERO TIENE QUE MEDIR Y ESCOGER COMO UNO QUIERE VIVIR EN LA VIDA TU ESCOJES SER UNA PERSONA CON UNA VIDA QUE YO NI MUERTO DARIA POR TENER TE ASEGURO QUE ESTAS SOBRE DE PESO TU VIEJA GANA MAS DINERO QUE TU POR ESO VIENES AQUI CON ALGUEN DESQUITARTE PERO TE ASEGURO CONMIGO VAS A PERDER Y RUEGALE ADIOS QUE NODE CONTIGO Y YO SI SOY DE HONOR NUNCA ME HE MANCHADO LOS PANTALONES CON SANGRE DE GENTE INNOCENTE DE QUE PASAN ACCIDENTES CLARO QUE SI PERO TAMBIEN EN LA VIDA NORMAL HAY ACCIDENTES COMO SABES QUE ALA MEJOR TU MUJER NO ES LA QUE TENGO AHORITA YO TENGO MUCHO TIEMPO AQUI Y TE GARANTISO QUE TU VIVES EN SAN DIEGO Y CRES QUE ESTAS PROTEGIDO PIENSA MUY BIEN LO QUE HACES PAREJITA PORQUE TE HACES PASAR POR @anonimo QUE TANTO PANTOLES PUEDES TENER SI VAS HABLAR MIERDA Y NO SER LO CON TU FIRMA YA TEDI MI NOMBRE CUAL ES EL TUYO NO TENGAS MIEDO ACUERDATE EL CAF ESTA ACABADO ESO ES LO QUE PIENSAN TODOS PERO AUN ASI TODOS PAGAN SU CUOTA HASTA cds TE GARANTISO TEO Y MULETAS ERAN HOSICONES COMO TU PERO QUE PASO CON ELLOS PERDIERON LA GUERRA Y ESTAN PRESOS Y TE LO GARANTISO SE LA ESTAN PASANDO MUY MAL SOY EL S-11 ARRIBA LA GENTE DEL CAF Y TODO BAJA CALIFORNIA NORTE NOS PERTENECE ALA GRAN FAMILIA @CAF SALUDOS MI CHAVO ESTOS PINCHES ANONIMOS ME CAEN EN LA PUNTA DE LA VERGA

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  70. @S-11 primo como esta se acuerda de mi soy el gallo miro que estos anonimos habren el hosico sin saber de que se trata el asunto miro que un vato le dijo que a usted lo cuelgan en un puente oiga @anonimo pinche pendejo ese compa no conose el miedo y tenga los wuebos para llegarle de frente y los que intentaron no estan aqui y hasta conmigo EL S-11 cuenta conmigo este compa es de lealtad y de palabara nomas preguntale ala fed afi que lo quisieron aprhender y alos teos y boxer compa un consejo voy adarle pidale disculpas porque con el tiempo se le va a parecer el diablo sola mente un consejo @anonimos SALUDOS ALA RAZA DEL CAF Y LA GRAN FAMILIA POR DARNOS TRABAJO Y SACARNOS DE LA POBRESA GENTE COMO EL S-11 Y SU GENTE CON EL APOYO DE LA GRAN FAMILIA ARRIBA TIJUANA BAJA CALIFORNIA

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  71. @ anon March 11, 2012 1:07 AM,First of all,what makes you think I'm involved in the business?Where do you get that from?Second,be original dont be a follower "Olimpic Medal"??Definetly not your line!!As for respecting "Innocent People"?You dont know me or what I do,my believes or what I'm about!!You're an idiot assuming what I am or not!That goes for you as well anon March 11, 2012 1:07 AM,I'm not here to impress you with what I know or dont...For one,because I could care less about you!But theres alot of Idiots like you in these forums who speculate & assume as well as make up stories concerning events that are totally un-comprehensible to you.You have no idea how & why Cartels do what they do.If you arent interested in DTOs what are you doing in this forum?

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  72. @3-10-2012 1:39 Respeto tu opinion mi chavo nomas no me hable como @anonimo en mi cuadro es una falta de respeto nodar uno su nombre pero eres el unico @anonimo que respeto alo que dices recuerda yo doy oportunidad al que me hable como hombre no como nina pero te digo yo nunca he quebrado gente innocente-violado-levantado gente innocente como teo -el chapo y zambada y muletas no te digo soy gente bueno pero como amigo soy amigo pero como enemigo soy lo peor mi maestro es y fue EL SENOR RAMON Y EL PAREJA aqui escribo nomas para pasar el tiempo mi rango esta mas alla pero usted mi @ANONIMO estamos bien te doy mi palabra pero otros aqui si los voy a ver muy pronto esto si es palabra ARRIBA EL CAF DE BAJA CALIFORNIA

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  73. @GENTE DE TIJUANA No nada mas a gente como a nosotros se nos aparece el diablo, mira a Ramon Arellano, también le llego su hora. Ustedes se dicen ser muy hombres y ahi tienen a El Muletas, al Chiquilin, al Teo, a la Perra, al Kaibil, a Benjamín, a Francisco Javier y a muchos mas, todos arrestados sin tirar un solo balazo. Sera que solo se dan valor en montón? A ustedes los sacaron de la pobreza, ustedes con sus secuestros hunden a otros en la miseria.

    Por tu manera de escribir me eh dado cuenta que si eres sicario, tu falta de ortografía es terrible. Ojala y sepas usar el arma mejor de como escribes, por que si no, en una balacera seras hombre muerto.

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  74. Aquí hay gente que le gusta amenazar, no se les olvide que también a los TIBURONES los puede uno pescar del mar.
    Al tocayo Alejandro Hodoyan le paso algo malo por abrir la boca de mas y divulgar lo que la familia hace.

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    1. Los Aretes no levantaron al Alex. El Fabian aka tiburon fue con la mama del Alex personalmente a darle un mensanje de Benjamin que la familia no tuvo nada que ver con el levanton del Alex. Informate bien. Alrato

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  75. "that guy did not do 20 years people that do time come out of prison and cant use a cell phone much less blog hahaha ,March 11, 2012 3:14 PM" Damas Y Caballeros,e aqui el ejemplo perfecto de un Imbecil que comenta simple y sencillamente por abrir el hocico y oir su voz o por leer sus pendejadas!!Perhaps an idiot like yourself would sit in prison wasting your time & not learn anything,Sorry to let you down,that was not the case with me!Besides,Cell Phones are available & the prison systems "DO"have computer courses.@ CAF y GENTE DE TIJUANA,compas ignoren a estos sujetos,no valen la pena y mas alla de causar risa dan lastima!Ni gasten su tiempo con estos ineptos!Los que deveras conocemos el juego sabemos cuando batear!Aqui estos presumen su ineptitud,ignorancia y pendejismo como si fuera Doctorado!"Me retiro como llegue,"Mis respetos a los que si saben trabajar". C/R El Retirado....

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  76. @gallo como esta mi gallo como esta usted y su familia espero que bien ya ves aqui tengo tiempo libre y aqui estoy escribiendo pero cambie de radio buscame por mi tio te acuerdas el casino espero que este bien saludame a cruz y todo sigue al 200% aqui en tijuana acuerde mi gallo conmigo cuenta pa lo que sea usted y su familia espero escuchar de usted mi gallo

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  77. March 12, 2012 11:53 AM No pos si, saben trabajar!!! Jiar jiar jiar, has de tener una casa en las Bahamas tras estar detrás de las rejas por veinte años. Todo criminal que yo he conocido que se la a pasado en prisión por mas de 10 años no sale de las mismas. Tu te crees un hombre de éxito y te apuesto que ni eres dueño de una casa. Presumes tus veinte años de prisión como Doctorado y le andas mamando los huevos a @CAF y @GENTE DE TIJUANA nada mas por que te chamaquearon.

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  78. @GENTE DE TIJUANA Desde que yo me acuerde que llegaste a este blog con un nombre diferente has estado amenazando a gente, diciéndoles que los vas a matar y que esto y lo otro. Asta la fecha eh estado esperando escuchar las noticias de que ya mataste de perdida a unos veinte blogeros que te han insultado.

    Lo que mas me sorprende es que tu abres la boca de mas y la gran Familia no te a cortado la cabeza. Eh leído comentarios tuyos desde Marzo del 2011.

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  79. @ anon March 12, 2012 6:42 PM,Nomas digame cuando,a donde y a que horas para que me conoscas en persona...y eso de que me chamaquearon...si asi lo crees,alla tu!Yo le brindo mi mano y respeto a los que hacen lo mismo conmigo!

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  80. March 12, 2012 9:03 PM Mañana mismo si le párese, al final de la calle Castellanos y esquina con Paseo Playas de Tijuana a las 7:00 pm en Tijuana.

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  81. Como lo dije antes, yo de lengua me como un taco, nada mas estuve esperando como pendejo.

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