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Attorney General in Mexico: 200 Murders Result of Operation Fast and Furious

Sunday, October 30, 2011 |

By Texcoco
From the Forum

In a conference call this morning with Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa, reporters were told the Attorney General in Mexico has confirmed at least 200 murders south of the border happened as a result of Operation Fast and Furious.

“I would be remiss if I didn’t mention, as the Attorney General in Mexico is so concerned, she’s made the point that at least 200 Mexicans have been killed with these weapons and probably countless more,” Issa said.

Eleven crimes in the United States have been linked to Operation Fast and Furious up to this point. Issa said he expects as the investigation in the operation continues, more crimes connected to Fast and Furious will come to light and be exposed. This is not surprising, considering out of 2500 weapons the Obama Justice Department allowed to “walk,” and that only 600 have been recovered, the rest are lost until they show up at violent crime scenes. The damage from Operation Fast and Furious has only started to be seen. Remember, the Mexican Government and ATF agents working in Mexico were left completely in the dark about the operation.

July 26, 2011
A new report released by Issa’s office shows ATF agents working in Mexico were left in the dark about the details of Operation Fast and Furious. The report shows that in late 2009, ATF officials in Mexico began to see increasing amounts of guns traced to the Phoenix ATF Field Division office showing up at violent crime scenes.

Former ATF Attaché to Mexico Darren Gil and ATF Acting Attaché to Mexico Carlos Canino expressed their concerns to officials in the Phoenix Field Office and in Washington D.C. but were ignored. The report shows ATF and DOJ “failed to share crucial details of the of Operation Fast and Furious with either their own employees stationed in Mexico or representatives of the Government of Mexico.” Specifically, personnel in Arizona denied ATF agents working in Mexico information directly related to their jobs and everyday operations.

Issa submitted a request to the White House for information surrounding the operation nearly two weeks ago and that request has not yet been filled. White House Officials have until the end of this week to submit documents requested before Issa takes the next step.

Documentation about what the White House knew about the operation was requested after Special ATF Agent in Charge William Newell admitted in Congressional testimony that he was in contact with White House national security advisers about the operation and after emails surfaced showing at least three White House officials were in contact with the Justice Department about the operation.

Since this scandal came to light in March 2011, the Obama Justice Department has continually stonewalled the investigation from the House Oversight Committee, and not much has changed. Issa said there is an ongoing cover-up of a pattern of ongoing mistakes and that the Justice Department continues to use petty prosecutions to limit information given to the Oversight Committee.



“People are picking their words very carefully," Issa said.

When asked what the consequences would be for DOJ or ATF officials involved in the operation, Issa said prosecutions may come at the end of this scandal to those who knowingly trafficked weapons across the border and could be held accountable for the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

“This was dumb, it was useless and it was lethal,” Issa said.

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31 Borderland Beat Comments:

Anonymous said...

Obama and Holder knew. Anyone in government who thought this was a good idea, to actually let this many high powered guns cross the border, is too stupid to be in government.

Anonymous said...

If anybody is to blame for the fast & furious operation it should be the Bush administration since they were the 1st to approve of such operations. Obama and Holder just took a responsible approach on the matter to bring it up to the public attention.

Anonymous said...

PLEASE WILL SOMEBODY EXPLAINE TO US COMMON SENSE PEOPLE [HOW WERE THEY TRACING THOSE GUNS] I GUESS ITS SHOWING UP NOW WHEN SOMEONE IS MURDER OR INOCENT PEOPLE KILLED GO SEE IF IT WAS ONE OF THOSE GUNS AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT MURDER TO GO CHECK AND NEXT NEXT NEXT ONE HELL OF A GREAT DECISION FROM THIS INTELIGENT PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE SOMEONE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE

Anonymous said...

@4:19 Obama and this administration isn't the problem. It's sheep like you who elect these people that is the problem. Your Messiah can do no wrong, even when he has blood all over his hands.

Anonymous said...

If anybody is to blame for the fast & furious operation it should be the Bush administration since they were the 1st to approve of such operations. Obama and Holder just took a responsible approach on the matter to bring it up to the public attention.
nothing like propaganda and misinformation to get me rofl-ing
how bout blame where blame belongs? like holder, the head of atf, janet and obama!

Anonymous said...

4:19 A.M., no more Kool-Aid for you. The blame bush crowd is on break right now. They will be back right before the general elections. As for the Mexican artty. General quoting a number; not too wise. I would assume the a weapon bought by the cartels is likely to be used. Multiply each gun by the number of rounds it can fire in it's service life as the potential for harm. Of course, you would have to deduct fort multiple shots into each victim and again for the spray and pray technique. The number of crimes and murders though, is still likely to be much higher than the number of guns involved.

Anonymous said...

4:19@ Obama, I recocnize your writing style. Why not sign your posts?

Anonymous said...

wow USA let one fucking shipment of guns through and we the badguys. maybe if Mexico would let us help then things would get better.

wow USA lets one shipment of guns through for investigatory/operational purposes and we the bad guys

where as Mexico PRI party give cartels open season to bring whatever they want north for years and years and years

im sick of hearing about this fast and furious nonsense. stop pointing fingers and go get the bad guys

~~~el spaceio~~~ (is spelled spaceio because is a spinoff of this other username i have named spacely)

Anonymous said...

I agree with Anonymous said...
Obama and Holder knew. Anyone in government who thought this was a good idea, to actually let this many high powered guns cross the border, is too stupid to be in government.

Anonymous said...

f anybody is to blame for the fast & furious operation it should be the Bush administration since they were the 1st to approve of such operations.
I know i am not a smart man, but did holder and obama not get funding for this fiasco VIA the recovery act?? so tell me again moron, how this was Bush's fault?? I do believe the recovery act was passed AFTER Bush left office..

Anonymous said...

blame BUSH!!!!

E W in STL MO said...

The DOJ should have to repay the taxpayers for the paper and toner used for all those black pages. They should also be charged for the time that this committee should also be refunded out of their budget. This is a disgrace. This is criminal!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If anybody is to blame for the fast & furious operation it should be the Bush administration since they were the 1st to approve of such operations. Obama and Holder just took a responsible approach on the matter to bring it up to the public attention.
nothing like propaganda and misinformation to get me rofl-ing
how bout blame where blame belongs? like holder, the head of atf, janet and obama!
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YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG! Do the research and you will find there were attempts to track the weapons by placing miniature transmitters inside weapons during the Bush years. The program was halted after problems detecting signals. Under the Obama administration, no efforts to track the weapons were made. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Anonymous said...

Can't wait when the Obama administration is dismissed from destroying America and a new, polished, hopefully energetic administration can come in and reclaim our PATRIOTISM and MILITARY POWER around the globe that Bozo the Clown apologized to every world leader for the USA being bad players. USA was bad bad bad....Under the new administration in 2012 I know Holder will definitely be indicted after several investigations for misuse of office and I am sure Obama, even though he does hold the title of WORST PRESIDENT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY, taken from another bag of bones and chatter mouth of nonsense Jimmy "The Great White Joke" Carter. Many on this current Obama administration can look forward to a long hard life after they leave....the Obama administration will go down in history as the by far WORST presidency ever, the most CORRUPT and MISLEADING. So funny, he has been president for 3 years and he still blames Bush....funny, kind of getting a little old with a 63% disapproval rating. Obama could not even manage a 7-11 store and that is pathetic. Looking forward to hopefully Obama and Holder criminal indictments......

Anonymous said...

The Bush administration knew And approved of these operations they also knew it come back and bite them in the ass so they decided not to relay the information to the next administration. Do your research retards and stop listening to fundamentalist like Beck and Limbaught.

Anonymous said...

Unreal...a frigging Socialist Democrat

Anonymous said...

We all know what the penalty is for treason is????? Apply it.

Anonymous said...

who is Limbaugh & Beck? Look up the difference between Operation Wide Receiver under Bush and Fast & Furious under Obama. AG Holder was 1st questioned in March of 2011. To date, there have been no indictments. Even if the operation was the same as under Bush, only a moron or a liberal could possibly think 6 months is not enough time to produce at least 1 indictment.

Anonymous said...

The ATF is responsible.SO WHAT Mexicans can have and will in the future get all the guns they need, there are criminals in every country on earth,you do not need idiot beaurocrats to get guns. How about the Mexican A/G trying to make some political hay 200 deaths due to the failed US scam, you have got to love the stupidety all around.

Buela said...

Mx is so astute in solving murders resulting from F&F guns...jeeze don't cha wish they could solve the other 39800 murders committed by guns other than from F&F?

as if we are to believe this shit.
hey F&F is a disgrace, but come on Mx is incapable of stating the truth.

and......did americans kill Mexicans in Mx with those guns? or was it Mx killing Mx?

exactly...
Issa is stupid to used this in this way. is he saying without the F&F guns Mexicans would not have committed these acts?

Anonymous said...

How many people were murdered over mexican drugs?

Anonymous said...

Do not try to drag Bush into this. This one is entirely on the Obama administration. The days of trying to blame Bush or anyone else for the failings and screw ups of Obama are over. Time for Obama to own up and put his big boy pants on.

These deflection attempts, obfuscation and Red Herring ploys trying to squeal about Bush are just that. Whining by Obama sycophants who seem to think that Obama can do no wrong. Well he can do wrong and he has done wrong. Deal with it.

Apples to Oranges. Under Bush the weapons were never sent across the border by the US government to the drug Cartels. In fact it was a different program with a different name. To try to blame THIS screw up under Obama on Bush or anyone else is dishonest.

What happened, with F&F is it was EXPANDED upon until it went out of control under the Obama administration with a nefarious intent of subverting the 2nd amendment. This is what Obama was talking about when he declared that he was "working on gun control via under the radar methods".

It is criminal and there is no excuse under the sun for what happened. Obama will be held to the same standards of blame for things that he screws up or go wrong under his watch. He gets no special treatment.

Anonymous said...

Buela-
I see your point, BUT
As US citizens, neither Issa nor I have a right to condemn another nation if the US is aiding & abetting in the commission of crimes. It is also against the law to allow weapons to cross international borders without State Dept. approval, to which Sec. of State Clinton has denied knowledge of. If the US had an active operation to track weapons and capture the recipients, I would have less of a problem with this scenario. However, to date AG Holder has provided virtually no details. I expect the US to serve as a better role for the rest of the world.

Anonymous said...

You dummies are missing the whole point, trafficking guns is against the law and is a crime period! Laws are put into place to protect society as a whole, when the government breaks these laws and peope are murdered and crimes are comitted with the weapons that makes the atf, cia, fbi, doj, obama, and whoever else that was involved acessory to murder. If you or I did that we would be sitting in a 6x6 cell right now, these criminals in government positions NEED to be held accountable for breaking the laws they have sworn to uphold. And to the moron who is only worried about cartridge ink, You should be more worried about the 200+ murders that were committed because of eric holder and his daddy obama.

Anonymous said...

There was a time ,not long ago when the US Federal Govt had not extended its self into every aspect of our lives,people were not as polarized Left/Right as today. Now people are mobalized for or against Federal policies/programs because it has a DIRECT effect on them personally. The Federal Govt is out of control,Modern Americans have been trained to expect all problems,everything is to be provided by the Govt, Entitled. This Fast and Furious Fiasco is just one more example of the Management insanity of a huge beauracracy run by GOVT Hacks. Just think what FED Medical care will be??

Anonymous said...

So everyone is clear it seems that the Bush administration actually start the concept of tracking guns, that had been admitted. So that being said who is responsible for giving the right wing/ex military type ATF/DOJ directors the idea that it was ok to do this???? Hmmmm......whenever you have doubts about bush vs Obama just put them in a room and give them a high school exit exam and you will soon see who should be a president....also I believe Obama would mop up bush in a toe to toe fight....

Anonymous said...

@ 5:47 - so is bombing weddings and setting up false pretenses to start a war that was unnecessary just so your company can go in an make 3000% returns on the cleanup. Why isnt Dick Cheney in jail then? The guy even admits in his book that he is scared to leave the US for fear of being put on trial for war crimes.

Anonymous said...

I thought they were letting the guns walk to arm the sinaloa cartel, not to actually track them. So why is everyone getting so caught up in the tracking aspect? We arm guerilla armies all the time.

Anonymous said...

Operation wide reciever, started under the Bush administration....Would like to see you guys post that new ABC news story.

Anonymous said...

@ October 30, 2011 2:18 PM

My god man you truly are an idiot to the farthest degree. The guy who smuggled and straw purchased those weapons was filmed doing it last year idiot, you know 2010! The third year of Obamas term. Or do you not know how this works as well? Want more kool-aid?

Anonymous said...

Come on everyone knows Democrats wouldn't kill innocent minorities for their personal gain. Hell the last time they did something like that was in the 60s lol.

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