Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Former Tijuana top cop says Federal Police fired at him in Ciudad Juarez

Julian Leyzaola, Tijuana's former top cop, now heads the municipal police in Ciudad Juarez. He is accusing Federal Police in Juarez of opening fire on his vehicle Monday night. — Peggy Peattie


BY SANDRA DIBBLE
Sign on San Diego

Former Tijuana Police Chief Julian Leyzaola, no stranger to gunfire and controversy, is now is the spotlight in Ciudad Juarez, where he has been heading the municipal police force since March.

Leyzaola is accusing members of Mexico's Federal Police of opening fire on his vehicle on Monday night as he was heading to a penitentiary where a riot had claimed 17 lives.

“I don’t understand the reason for the aggression,” Leyzaola said Tuesday during a news conference in Ciudad Juarez. “Fortunately, the vehicle was armored, otherwise I wouldn’t be here.”

Hector Arcelus, the city’s secretary, said that there were 20 identified aggressors, and that the city was preparing to take legal action. According to El Diario de Juarez, “the incident showed the lack of coordination among agencies.”

On Monday, the city announced that Federal Police would be withdrawn from the city beginning in September.



Additional video source: Intentan federales asesinar a Leyzaola

46 comments:

  1. Is this the end for CDS in j town crazy and the drama go$ on and on. *I*

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  2. Two words... Friendly fire.

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  3. Of course some of the federal police are dirty and working for the cartels, they have wanted Julian Leyzaola dead for a long time. It was an attempted hit on his life and those scum dirty federal police should be charged with attempted murder! If it was not a shielded vehicle he would have been killed! Just another dirty day in Mexico, nothing new...

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  4. Haha poor Sinaloa cartel its really not that strong if with 10,000 soldiers it couldn't take ciudad Juarez then that mean viceroy is still a powerful guy,this is no surprise I mean he is amado Carrillo Fuentes brother.Remember carillo Fuentes themselves are from sinaloa so once again the only ones that could bring chapos house down is the ppl thar helped him build it,Beltran,carillo.

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  5. yea right, CDS has shown they are serious about la plaza de ciudad juarez. You guys have it backwards, La Linea are the ones asking for help and support from Z. The leftover Beltran are a joke and have no real power. The reality is that CDS actually knows what they are doing, they dont always want the headlines, they are more advanced than anyone realizes. They DO have the power to take out Leyzaola if they really wanted to.

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  6. Leyzaola is in with the sinaloa and this is la linea trying to clean house before federal troops leave and juarez and hand control over to leyzaola and the sinaloa.

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  7. No the federal police are with Sinaloa and Julian sides with no cartel he has shown it before, its embarrassing how the federal police can openly shoot at him and "mistaken" him. Sorry Sinaloa cartel your time is up you fucked over LFM, BLO, CDG, AFO, and VCF. The trash Zetas will now take over control when the new president comes in and that worthless scum Felipe Calderon who betrayed his own home state for money will be slaughtered by LFM and CT when he returns home, anyone else think this?

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  8. Great article Ovemex it was really informative, its incredible how this could happen to a chief of police in plain sight

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  9. @Luciferkilla,

    I serious doubt, Calderon has anything to worry about (safety wise) after his presidency. For one, he will not be heading back to Sinaola to resume his life, rather he will probably relocate to the United States far out of the reach of any DTO's.

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  10. The truth is no one will ever know if these feds were sided with Sinaloa or Juarez but what is clear is that this was another attempt on Leyzaola's life. If it did happen? Mexico is so corrupt it's difficult to assess who is with who. Only those who are directly involved with a specific hit or attempt really know.

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  11. The Sinaloa cartel has years fighting for ciudad Juarez and is not gonna take it,also if you say beltrans have no power why can't chapo,mayo kick them out of Sinaloa,why do Beltran leyva still control areas in northern sonora??Think about it they have more power than you think.

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  12. Just because publicity hound, Julian Leyzaola has accused the Federal police of trying to do a hit on him, in no way means that that is so. He is engaged in an effort to get the Federal Police out of Juarez, so in short, he is engaged in a jurisdictional fight over who will be in charge of policing in Juarez.... he or the head of the Mexican Federal Police (Los Federales)?

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  13. 7:55 haha you dont even know what's going on down there.sinaloa are the ones that do fake graffiti's threatning the dea and saying their gonna blow up bridges and signing them as diego and La ____! What does that say?

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  14. @ 4:06, actually I do know what Im talking about....I dont want to get into this but you are funny telling me I dont know whats up en ciudad juarez with la GN....and since you know everything you should know that la linea are the ones who use los aztecas to issue their threats and handle more of their business than they should. You know NOTHING about how CDS does business and go ask Vicente Carrillo if El Chapo y M makes hollow threats. if you know anything you will know what happened when Don Chava was sent to ciudad juarez......

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  15. For those that are unaware and pose as cheerleaders for any cartel it is clear that you are completely out of touch with the reality in Juarez, better yet all your chearleading would quicly change into a different image if you set foot in the mean streets of Ciudad Juarez: you would have your tail between your legs. It is very easy for anyone to categorically announce their support for a cartel when it is done through the internet, but for anyone to engage in the same behavior and support when in Juarez this would entail you backing up your word with some serious action and the expectation of some serious reaction. The Federal Police is split into two factions each working for their respective boss, no longer does only one cartel have a monopoly on this Federal Police Force. The two factions engaged in a fire fight outside the jail in the interests of their respective side. As part of this firefight the State and Local Police were just bystanders on the sidelines(look at the news footage and verify that Municipal Police and State Police/Policia Unica were removed from the fire fight ducking for cover). Either Layzaola with his maverick attitude decided to break the line of fire and was promptly engaged or either on orders from his crime bosses or of his own accord broke the line and was engaged by the opposing faction. Either way the battle for Juarez is not as one sided anymore because the Juarez Cartel has managed to recuperate influence over all facets of Federal State and Local authorities that it had initially lost back in 2008 when the Sinaloa Cartel went on a buying spree to secure support for its offensive into Ciudad Juarez.

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  16. You guys are doing nothing in juarez.the aa and gn just keep fighting against la linea because thats what they have to do.they don't make hollow threats?you act like if vicente carrillo and chapo know about the taggins and messages to each other.some of the messages are done some aa that just think they're cool!And after Don chava who are they gonna send again and again?why would vicente carrillo be scarred when they used to be all over his brothers nuts and they were even supposed to be compadres and now look how they're doing amado!

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  17. @12:42
    first of all Calderon is not from Sinaloa he is a native from Michoacan and he will return one day

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  18. There has been many different things done by Sinaloa to heat up the Juarez Plaza. That is one of the primary things that makes Juarez such a sad situation. Lots of the hits in the bars are just to kill someone and start the heat buzzing. That is why I would like to see their protection pulled. Let the fight begin and end. I know who will succeed, they are home grown and will fight to the death for their turf.

    I have often wondered about the high publicity killings like the groups of teenagers. I've never understood how a gang doesn't know it's turf well enough to know if it is the enemy of innocent people it is attacking. I have wondered many times if these weren't Sinaloa games.

    One other thing that seemed unusual, the Barrio Aztecas were accused of the killing of the US Consulate employee. The funny thing was, it was reported as a Sinaloa hit and they "hired the BA" to do it. You never know who is in bed together and in what position in Mexico. About the time you think that the bloody war is fixing to happen, El Azul and El Viceroy are drinking coffee and smoking cigars.

    One last thing, the elite of Mexico do not consider the US a great place to retire, they look down on Americans and that is exactly who Calderon is. He is an elitist and he is for the very rich only. He will retire where he feels he belongs, Spain, or at least, somewhere in Europe.

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  19. @5:53 clearly you know nothing about the BUSINESS en la plaza cabrone. Come to Culiacan and see how tough you are.

    @5:56 you think I was talking about tagging and pinches throw aways? Your first thought goes to tagging and low level picaderos? You don't know what I was talking about, sometimes when you see all these different shootings there's more to the story then you know....And yea you must even not know who Don Chava is and what I'm talking about

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  20. Ardent, I'm guessing leyazola had his guys shoot up the vehicle so he could get some PR? Makes sense, right ? Hell no! Stupid statement . Can't tell if you are a sharp guy or are just blinded by liberalism?

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  21. 6:29 Look Culichi, as is evidenced from your comment, I have nothing against Culiacan or Sinaloa. If you carefully read my comment 5:53 the first thing I wrote is "For those that are unaware" meaning those that have no clue. Furthermore, it is directed at clueless cheerleaders from whichever camp. After piecing together your comments its seems that you do have some working knowledge of this confrontation being waged in Ciudad Juarez all be it a distant one, so why would you take offense at my comment if in fact you do know what's up and my comment was directed at those who don't know what's up? Second don't take offense but if you really are from Culiacan and you live the part then if you went to Ciudad Juarez you would stand out like a red tomatoe in a sea of green chiles. Trust me, people in Juarez can spot a foreigner even one from Chihuahua a mile away. So I stand by that assertion. You wouldn't have your tail between your legs but you would definitely by forced to back your words, because in Juarez there is a steady execution rate about 5 a day now down from about ten a day last year. I am aware that things in Culiacan are tough as well but that city hasn't seen a major invasion as of yet like Ciudad Juarez has lived for over 3 years. Seriously pray that your city doesn't see that because if Zetas and their allies turn the tides, Culiacan will be ground Zero for retaliation. I write this from an analytical standpoint not as a personal attack on you or your state so don't take this the wrong way because if you are in it to win it then worrying about whe information I share with the public should be the least of your concerns. I will research Don Chava as I have a vague idea on the matter but am interested in how he fits in.

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  22. i know that people talk bad about leyzaola but i believe that he is trying hard to clean up juarez and his intentions are generally good. the fact that he is a publicity hound has nothing to do with his efforts or that he is making false accusations for personal gain. that would be too risky for him. i believe him when he says that it was the federales who shot at him. why? i agree with ardent. i think that there is a jurisdictional war between leyzaola and the head of the federal police on who should be in charge of policing juarez.

    i think that its a mistake to remove the federal police from juarez. when i go to juarez, it seems like they are everywhere and that they are the ones who are policing juarez, not the municipal police. the municipal police are too badly trained. i would go as far as to say that most of them are worthless.

    the sinaloa cartel cannot and will not lose this war. if they retreat, they will lose respect from all of the other cartels. and the juarez cartel will never sign a treaty. this war is too personal and only one cartel can rule the juarez plaza. so this war will probably not end for a long time and in the end, it will probably be the sinaloa cartel that will remain standing. unless they kill el chapo. that could change the dynamics of this war.

    the sinaloa cartel knows how to handle their business more professionally and know how to stay low-key as oppossed to the other more violent and ruthless cartels but as someone pointed out, it's el chapo who invaded everyone's territory and backstabbed almost every other cartel. even befriended and then backstaabbed again certain cartels. el chapo is the most hated cartel leader in mexico. he is the culprit of this huge civil war.

    personally, i hope in the end that el chapo is killed, not captured, and the juarez cartel takes over it's own plaza. the juarez cartel bears it's cities' name. that means that the sinaloa cartel should go back to sinaloa where it belongs.

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  23. @ LuciferK - see what I mean? 12:42 doesn't even know where Calderon is from. What are you going to do with ignorance that deep?

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  24. @ajulio....like I said la GN have already secured la plaza more than anyone realizes and guess who is moving more product through ciudad juarez....CDS IS!! You are wrong however, they will NEVER GET EL CHAPO o EL MAYO....PURO CDS! As for everyone talking about the police situation in juarez, they will everntually have the choice to align or turn into Monterrey part dos....This is a VERY BAD time to be law enforcement in NL.

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  25. @7:08....I do understand what you saying and I do not in ciudad juarez. You right I do know what im talking about and I see what you wrote referring to people who comment but dont know anything except what they read on blogs or newspapers....I should make a name on this site so I can comment without being "anonymous" but its better I dont keep getting into all this anyways....however mark my words CDS y la GN are not going anywhere, la linea are the ones begging Z for support

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  26. @7:46 You either were born yesterday or just go to Mexico because if you claim that the police situation in Juarez will eventually turn into Monterrey part 2 then you are way behind the times since police have been getting ambushed in Juarez and Chihuas for 3 years straight period. Have you forgotten about the car bomb, the multiple fedrales murdered, the municipales ambushed, the transitos killed on a traffic stop etc. Better luck next time on trying to sound knowledgable.

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  27. I have been going to Juarez for many years until 2007 when I was advised by old friends there to stay away. Don't take this wrong, I have not been involved in the drug trade for 2 decades but I know people there who are. The Juarez Cartel moved out of Juarez at that time to El Paso and Chihuahua City for the most part. There is several things I want to touch on. The Municipal Police of Juarez are better trained than most places in Mexico. The State Police are even more so. The Federal Police have no investment in the people of Juarez because they are not from there. The accusations that they rape pillage, and murder are true, and wide spread.This city has always been one of the roughest cities in the world. But, you had to go to the wrong places to find trouble and that is entirely not the case today. It is just my opinion but the Federal Police seemed to be army personnel that transitioned across to federal police. I'm not so sure they are better trained to police dangerous streets. That is were all the abuse complaints come from. They are not invested in the city and they are there to get what they can from the people before they go. That is the bottom line. I also agree that Layzaola is more neutral than sided here and wants to get the crime back to the alleys where it belongs and out of the streets. Just as I believe the federal police need to go for Juarez to have a chance, I feel the same about CDS. They are not invested in the city and have the good guy image of just wanting to deal drugs and leave the people alone. They are the true perpetrators because of their invasions. The Juarez Cartel has always had a nasty reputation and a ruthless one. It probably will not change. But with only one cartel in a plaza, you know who to avoid. By no means would I cheer for a cartel but I know enough about the business that it will not be stopped and a solid cartels makes for a peaceful plaza. I want peace for Juarez. I have been accused of favoring Juarez and even accused of working for them. Neither is the case. For when the federal police to leave, and if the Juarez Cartel does regain the plaza, this could be the quickest formula for a stable Juarez. The feds have f***ed Juarez up for 4 years without success. I also want to say this, for the most part, the participants have been very civil during heated discussion on this particular topic and that is awesome. Lots of good takes and good opinions. I know what I know, but I learn from those who think differently. Keep it up. I am glad to see Juarez back on the site. It is such a step child.

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  28. To that guy that seems to be in the in crowd of cartels and gets so offended when they speak ill of his almighty CDS. If your so involved in that game and know what your talking about then what the fuck are you doing here commenting and not saying nothing. Taking offense to what people are typing in their comments and who the hell is don chava? you keep mention him like we're suppose to be impress because his a big shot? In lighten us with your wisdom since you know so much more about the subject because we know NOTHING and none of this cds is controlling Juarez because its obvious that they're not, its been 3 years sir and the body's keep stacking up

    el Pipiri

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  29. Anonymous 6:39 suggests that since I think that Leyzaola MIGHT have staged a shoot up of his own armored vehicle during all the commotion to then falsely accuse the Federales of trying to do him in, that somehow this is merely all stupid conjecture, due to the fact I am a brainwashed liberal, he says. In exchange, I think it absolutely stupid to simply take Leyzaola's version as Biblically inspired truth. Maybe you, Anonymous, are a sheeple made naive and gullible by your conservative brainwash when you do so? Yes, perhaps so???

    Leyzaola wants the Federales off the case in Juarez and himself in the spotlight. YES, I do think him capable of staging an event for the press in order to achieve his goals. I am not saying that he did do that, but I am saying that I think him capable of creative structuring of events, shall we say?

    I also think that Leyzaola is no saint at all, and that he finds that having shared policing with the Federales in Juarez is something he is definitely not uncomfortable with, since he himself is under strict watch as long as the Feds are still in town alongside his command.

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  30. Feds are with cds the local and state police support la linea bc cd juares is their home too they dont want ppl from sinaloa coming to take over their city

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  31. @8:26
    You don't need to hide your cheerleader clothing don't you they have CDS cheerleader stamped right on there sorry to tell you this but once Felipa Calderon steps out of office your almighty Sinaloa cartel will get stepped on by the Zetas, the Gulf cartel does not like Sinaloa and will definitely not offer much help to protect them once this happens, I sense they're will be 4 major cartels in the near future, Sinaloa Cartel, Gulf cartel, LFM and CT combined to maximize profits and protect the state, and the Zetas once they sucked in BLO and VCF

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  32. 11:42 pm if your assumption is that because Leyzaola is such a publicity hound that he staged this attack by Federal Police to further his purpose of expeditiously ousting the Fedral Forces out of Juarez, then his plan and with that your deluded explanation failed miserably because on Monday prior to the Jail fiasco all three levels of government met: Juarez, Chihuahua State, and Federal Police and discused the exit of the Feds from Juarez. That same monday it was anounced by Facundo Rosas head of the Fed Police that in fact this would be the case, starting september the federal police would be leaving Juarez. In response to the Monday night scandal were you alledge that Leyzaola staged his attack to advance his control of Juarez streets without the watchful eye of the Feds, on Wednesday Fransisco Blake Mora head of SEGOB indicated contradicted the Federal Plice Chiefs stance and stated that the Federal police would remain in Juarez indefinitely until such time when in fact the Local authorities could exhibit the level of competence necessary to maintain criminal index levels to a minimal level. SEGOB trumps Fedreal Police. It is like the Attorney General head of the Justice Department telling the head of the FBI what to do. Your cleverly devised explanation for this atack on Leyzaola while creative is without merit, not based in reality, and comletely out of touch with the actuality of things going down in Juarez. Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble.

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  33. Maybe so? Maybe Leyzaola was attacked by the Federal police as he stated? Then again.... Maybe not?

    Call my scepticism about officials' statements in Chihuahua a 'deluded explanation', will you? Personally I think that after all these years of watching how Mexican government officials have handled crime (and been handled by crime there) one would have to be a lunatic to take anything that is said or done by them straight out at face value would be the height of lunacy. That includes thinking that somehow Leyzaola is some sort of saintly new player in this game they have seemingly all been playing for seemingly always.

    Do you BB dittoheads truly think that with Leyzaola you have some new type of political hack in power there? Incredible if you do! God you people are dumb IMO!

    'Your cleverly devised explanation for this atack on Leyzaola while creative is without merit, not based in reality, and comletely out of touch with the actuality of things going down in Juarez. Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble.'

    We shall see...? I think it is the fan club of Leyzaola that is 'out of touch' with reality though. I merely conjectured that Leyzaola might have staged an event so that it might rebound to his advantage. Something certainly done many times before in both Mexican and US politics by many many public officials. Contrast that attitude of mine to that of those that have blind faith about Leyzaola, as now being shown by American law enforcement types and BB dittoheads. He's practicially your patron saint!

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  34. Lucifer stop talking shit, CDG doesnt like CDS? they have a alliance and they support eachother to fight the zetas. they are fighting against zetas in zactecas and making progess. the zetas are not so powerfull as you think, the CDG are now back on track and fighting these scumbags.

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  35. All you guys from ciudad Juarez are mad because la linea lost la plaza and yes I support CDS! And for the guys who don't even know Don Chava, don't pretend to know what you're talking about

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  36. @6:58
    I ain't talking shit I hate Zetas im stating the obvious when CDG had Zetas working for them they bashed on Sinaloa and La Familia but when they were getting man handled by their own enforcers they quickly jumped on Sinaloas and Michoacans dick tell me it ain't true LFM sent around 100 gunmen to CDG turf to help stop the Zetas and Sinaloa sent GN to reynosa but did very little to help its all facts and there's proof of this. CDG are very two faced, Sinaloa are very greedy, and Michoacan cartels are creepy strange robin hood type killers.

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  37. La linea losing la plaza de ciudad juarez WTF are you guys talking about the Sinaloa cartel can't take a plaza if their life depended on it.I sense that the new monster VCF,ZETAS,BLO will have most of the plazas in Mexico by next year.Something chapo and allies couldn't do even with Felipe protecting them for 3 years already. Just wait for the elections and that's when we will see really how weak the Sinaloa cartel really is without the government protecting it.

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  38. @lucifer the GN and la familla members in tamps part is true.(CDG still succesfully defended big plazas like Matarmoros/Reynosa tough) but are still fighting together(la famillia members aswell) in zactecas against the zetas.

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  39. Maybe we are seeing Rome all over again with Sinaloa. It would do my heart good to see El Chapo the mighty slip on a banana peal.

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  40. Latest on the Big Split.... Apparently the Calderon Administration is not as high on Leyzaola Thought as many of his BB fan club members seem to be... But then the final act in this 'drama' has yet to be played out.

    Mexico suspends police aid to violent border city
    AP – 6 hrs ago

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — Mexico's federal government has suspended aid for a police-training program in the violence-wracked border city of Ciudad Juarez, saying authorities there haven't followed reporting rules and have trained few police.

    Mexico's National Public Safety System says it has suspended 57 million pesos ($4.85 million) in aid scheduled to be delivered this year, because the city has done little to actually train local police.

    It said Thursday that from 2008 to 2010 the city trained only about 6 percent of its police force, and none of its commanding officers.
    "It is unfortunate that the federal government is not showing solidarity with Ciudad Juarez in the serious problem of insecurity," city clerk Hector Arceluz Perez told a Thursday hearing.

    The announcement comes amid rising tensions between local and federal authorities, after federal police shot at a vehicle carrying Ciudad Juarez police chief Julian Leyzaola.

    Arceluz said the city has opened a formal complaint against the federal police officers, accusing them of attempted murder.

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  41. Interesting information ardent. Always providing us with interesting posts. I need a lil' more time to figure out leyzaola. He has a tampered past but as long as the homicide rate in juarez stays lower than usual, then i'm on his side. Who cares how he does it. When he first entered juarez, he cleaned up the police force. The homicide rate dropped to 4 a day within a few months. He speaks like a man with a good strategy and he's already been the victim of two assassination attemps. This man has balls and a purpose. But i'm so used to believing that every powerful mexican is bad.

    I've always seen that the local police, the federal police and the mexican military are all unproperly trained. But the FP's hold themselves with more respectability and confidence.
    When i go to juarez, it's the local police that always mess with me.

    The key accomplishment to leyzaola's strategy is to make juarez a safe city. But what will determine his character is if he can clean up juarez's police force and train them properly. To train them properly, he has to teach them first morality. How do you teach morality to a bunch of fools? If leyzaola is a real leader, it will eventually reflect on his police force. And so far from what i've seen, it's the federal police (good or bad) who seem to have their shit together. And that is not really saying much.

    If the federal government suddenly decides to suspend aid to a city, something is very wrong. I really hope that leyzaola is not swindling money.

    The solution is to remove the federal police and then let leyzaola take full control and prove himself and then he can be held with complete liability in the end. But how can he do this without any help from the government?

    The mexican government is the biggest cartel in mexico. Their own tainted history makes them suspect as well. So only time will tell. A leopard never changes it's spots and time always reveals the truth.

    But right now, i'm rooting for julian leyzaola. This man is risking his life for the sake of the people and the city of juarez. Ego included...

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  42. Luciferkilla your an idiot.For you to think that the Beltran leyva organization and the carillo Fuentes cartel would actually fold under Los zetas it's just stupid both of these cartels have more time operating then Los zetas.If they didnt fold under the Sinaloa cartel then they will not fold under any other cartel.Now if you said Los caballero templarios folded under chapo then that would make more sense since it's a weak cartel with little time of existence

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  43. @8:13 no your moron who can't even realize the obvious BLO is a dead organization who pleaded the Zetas to help them fight there enemies, VCF also pleaded to the Zetas to help them out who has CT or LFM asked for help? NO ONE get your facts straight they control they're one Plazas without others in they're state unlike VCF BLO having Zetas allover

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  44. And Los Caballeros have don't more in 2 months than BLO have done in a year look at CT killing federal police and LFM/Changos people

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  45. Wow lucifer really?? I don't know what your talking about yeah they barely control michiocan, we will give you that, other then that way has Los CT done??Nothing they are still fighting LFM.And in case you didn't know they begged chapo for help.Carillos have plazas not just one also the Beltran leyva throughout the country not just in their home state.Also they been saying the beltranes are done ever since Arturo died but they are still going strong.So yeah now you know.

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  46. Hey to the dum ass on top get ur fact strait the michoacan cartel dint ask for help it qas el chapo who beg to be an allince betwen them back when los templarios the whole familia michoacana cu el chapo knew he couldent go against the familia michoacana today know as los caballeros templarios so get ur shit strait before talking cuz the michoacan cartels dont get help from anyonse buc the CDs got federals marines army working for them cuz with out them they would b out of the game cuz the Zetas wiping them ...n lucifer u know ur facts and u right once calderon is out the sinaloa cartel will drop and at the end it will b betweb zetas n LCT and for sure calderon gonna die for all the shit he did to his own state cuz I dint see him send 1800 soldiers to sinaloa cuz they weak but he wanet to wipe out the michoacan cartel cuz he knows they on top and thw zetas over power Cds

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