Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

Terror in Tepic: Two Men Skinned Alive

Thursday, April 7, 2011 |

Two men were recently found brutally murdered and posed in front of a shop in the Guadalupe neighborhood of Tepic, Nayarit.

According to preliminary reports, the men were both skinned alive before their hearts were removed.

At this time neither man has been identified.

Source: BDN

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Anonymous said...

Fucking Beltrans.

DFL said...

FUCKEN SAVAGES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE FUCKED UP SHIT!!!

Anonymous said...

Ijola chingada!!!! Just when you think you've seen everything.......

Anonymous said...

THEY CANT B SKINNED ALIVE.....THEYLL MOVE 2 MUCH....THATS BULLSH!TT

J said...

that is insane. This seems like a signature move, seen in Guerrero, and now Nayarit. Who is fighting hard, and would do someone like this? Someone said Beltrans, why is that?

Anonymous said...

Really cute,makes you wonder what stunt these idiots are going to pull next. As long as there are substantial numbers of people in Mexico that tolerate/support lawless savage conduct ,it will continue,even escalate. Its not OK to be a drug dealer,even if your cousin ,brother,uncle-- get money from it.Its not OK to rob someone because you think they are rich,or steal their car because it is new. Being poor is different from being trash,many,many poor people are honerable,honest and responsible.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

THEY CANT B SKINNED ALIVE.....THEYLL MOVE 2 MUCH....THATS BULLSH!TT
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You are very mistaken... The way that they can tell if the facial skin was removed while still alive is the amount of blood flow to that area, if they were already dead there would be no bleeding to the facial area...

Their skin covering their heads were removed while they were still alive, they cut carefully around the neck and up the back of the head and it peels right off... They have videos of victims of this talking without any skin on there head but they are kept private...

Anonymous said...

Any theories on who did this? And who these two were? Why did someone through out the Beltran's name?

I often wonder if shit like this is somehow connected to Mexico's Aztec past.

Anonymous said...

Damn, I didn't even think that was possible. This is some alien vs predator skinning, fucken savages.

Anonymous said...

I want to vomit, but isn't the photos. It's the knowledge that people did this, and for what? A bit of money, fifteen minutes of fame? Thoughts and feelings that can't be put into words...there aren't words for this.
Imjustagirl

Anonymous said...

They're going to run out of ideas pretty soon

Anonymous said...

All I can say is that looks like it was very painful.

Visa said...

I live in Tepic, Nayarit, where all this shit is happening and I just can say one things guys: HELP!

Anonymous said...

WTH is that a sombrero i see and was someone playing dressup with these poor guys after their ordeal? I wonder what that leafy looking thing is stuck to the ones nose

Anonymous said...

Hey Visa..... just leave.... SERIOUSLY!! this shits gotten outta hand.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes this world depresses me. We have the capacity for so much good, yet we kill our own brothers. And for what.... trinkets, material things? No, for something even more stupid, power and respect. All of which mean nothing when you're dead.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous 8:32,

Don't blame the "Aztec past". Try looking a little closer to home.

Below, I've posted a link with a reference to the practice of skinning faces by Contra rebels in Nicaragua. Who trained, armed and supported the Contra rebels? The USA, that's who. The USA, with the money of hardworking taxpayers who have no idea what's really going on.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Early-American-Use-of-Torture---Danny-Mitrone-in-Latin-America&id=720275

And for all you people calling for more militarization, more weapons, more death squads, and (God help us) more American involvement - shut your mouths, open your minds and do a little in-depth research. All those solutions are already in force - some openly, some secretly - and the net result is more evil and more suffering!

There is no excuse for torture, illegal disapearances, and "on-the-spot" execution of suspects. I understand why you want to react to atrocities with violence, but in doing so, you will lose your own humanity. No matter how beastly the enemy may seem, if we also become beasts, there will be no good guys left to uphold the rule of law and defend the innocent.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous April 8, 2011 8:00 AM

Shut up, fucking liberal tree hugging hippy. Meet Evil w/ Force = solution plain and simple. Its your thought patern to "ignore" the issue and look the other way the reason why mexico is the way it is. Better yet why dont u go to mexico and become a politician and get your head cutt off for thinking that way i want to see how long your thinking will keep you alive before you will want the soldiers to help you. Oh, but they wont because you dont believe in meeting force with force. I know maybe you can talk your way out right?..... Idiot. Your way of thinking equals more death way to go champ.

Anonymous said...

Mexicans killing Mexicans.
Paisonas estamos para la chingada.
La gente de Mexico involved in this crime wave have hit new lows.
Sicaroios pendejos and patrones vale chile.

J said...

So, what is going on in Tepic? Who is fighting there? LFM defintiley, remanants of Beltrans, Z's, who?

Anonymous said...

damn video? i saw the skinning process with the chick with the machete wonder if one of the victims was them

Anonymous said...

You are very mistaken... The way that they can tell if the facial skin was removed while still alive is the amount of blood flow to that area, if they were already dead there would be no bleeding to the facial area...

Their skin covering their heads were removed while they were still alive, they cut carefully around the neck and up the back of the head and it peels right off... They have videos of victims of this talking without any skin on there head but they are kept private

How do you know there are "private videos" of this??

Anonymous said...

Apocalypto....the Aztec people have returned to take back their land.

Anonymous said...

The terror and pain these people went through I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, not even on the people who did this. This is a game now where 13 year old sicarios try and outdo the latest atrocity for fast rise in the ranks of the brotherhood of killers. Sick people and a lost generation that will be giving us all big trouble for decades.

Anonymous said...

DOLLY SAID:
those are ill and crazy people,this can not be happen,, I'm in shock!!!!! no comments..

DC said...

@anon 11:26

I agree with this being a lost generation. However there is no such thing as "brotherhood" for any of these demons up and down the line of command. These people and their cohorts can sing and rap all day long about how cool the lifestyle is and how bad ass they are...especially when they are high off their own supply..but we all know...cartels..gangs..in general are the biggest backstabbers of all. There is no honor amongst demons.

Anonymous said...

If this isn't a tactic to terrorize the public, I don't know what is.

And Mexico objects to these sick fuckers being labeled "Terrorist Organizations" by the US. What would you like them to be called? Sports clubs?

C'mon, the objection is because of the fears of what it will do for investment and tourism. Mexico is at war! Finish the job and then worry about tourism.

A few more gringos chased and killed or a couple more federal agents, and tourism and commerce will be dramatically affected. A label of Terrorist Organization will help you in your battle against the narcos

Anonymous said...

Makes you wonder why these cartel members allow themselves to be caught and not go ut shooting..I would rather die by bullet than to let some sicko carve me like a pumpkin..the only good news is that maybe these two guys were killers themselves and will now kill no more..

Anonymous said...

I am not impressed ..playing with body parts of the dead. Please... Goes to show how immature and stupid these gangsters have become. All they are doing is playing with body parts after they are unable to defend themselves. Stupid Cowards and kids. Proves nothing. A medical examiner does the same thing except they actually use their brain.

Anonymous said...

Drug prohibition! Ain't it just dandy?

Anonymous said...

The drug war goes on and on and on....

bet if all this shit was on the 5:00 news in the US, people would just legalize it and this would slow to a stop.

Swothunter said...

This tactic was used in Colombia as well...not new..just something now seen in Mexico. There has been some pictures circulating in counterinsurgency circles dated 2006.

Similar tactics were also used by the Afghan Mujahideen against Russian soldiers in the 80s/90s.

Mexican government needs to have a death penalty.

danieltmv said...

one of these guys was already dead, theres a video of one of them being beheaded and then skinned

Anonymous said...

@denieltmv

Lol, well if the video showed him being beheaded and skinned, I would like to see the video showing how they put the head back on. That would be really cool.

TRC

Anonymous said...

Once you kill someone you pass a place you could never return too, You might feel like your God deciding who lives and dies but rest assured your judgement comes when you least expect it, and all your ill gotten gains will be nothing but a distant memory through the eternal pain you will suffer...e...ternity stops for no man...in hell you'll lift up your eyes..to no avail...

SWOT Hunter said...

Anonymous..."Don't blame the "Aztec past". Try looking a little closer to home."

The fact is the culture in Mexico has fallen back about one thousand years in a competition over limited resources and failed governance.

Yes, there are good people there, but there is no effective governance which leaves the people looking for ways to survive on their own terms. People in the US involved in such activities are called serial killers, and we hunt them down. Sadly, in Mexico, the public is aware of who is doing such killing and unfortunately do not group together to fight back...so now the country has a whole bunch of serial killers running about.

Abu Ghraib was not a collective systematic effort...the event occurred when some unsupervised idiots went on their own to mess with people. I can tell you military training is much harder than what the victims generally went through. Frat houses do more to people than what was done in Abu Ghraib.

The article you posted distorts the use of US activities in Latin America in a major way. I can also tell by the article, and those who believe in it, never served in the military because they would know what the implications are for taking part in any such activities. The article was also written by an unnamed professor. Professor's are in school...often dont' serve the military, are not generally known to respect or like the military. In the US professors do not need to be anonymous. In Mexico, you do. Why are many of the posters on this blog are anonymous? The reason is because of the threat in Mexico and the fact the cartel members will hunt you down without a second guess.

No, Mexico has problems...the violence levied by the cartels is not going to go away via a wish, it's going to take the people and the government to fight back...whenever the government decides the people need to be better armed, a death penalty needs to be instituted and when the government is changed. All three things are coming...it appears to be only a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

Drug Prohibition evolving fast. It's got to stop before our society is taken too far down this road.We have only one real weapon: legalization.

SWOT Hunter said...

Legalization may be one way to ease the pressure in the short-term. But is giving in going to change what's inside the hearts of minds of the people skinning, mutilating and torturing others?

Honestly, what changes can we expect to see? I'm not trying to be critical, I'm trying to understand what gains will be made via legalization.

Just a thought. Will legalization prevent newly legalized drug businesses from competing with each other in this manner? The only difference I see then is state sanctioned/protected drug trafficking. What kind of standards/morals does this fall under? Does this mean society determines right and wrong by what feels good?

Just some thoughts...

Anonymous said...

Viva Mexico lindo y querido a que acabar con la gente que no sirve Yo vivo en Mexico y siembre ando armado para que se me arime un lacrA melo llevo conmigo vamos todos y aque protegernos de estos lacras!

Anonymous said...

These people are EVIL! BUILD THE SOUTHERN BORDER FENCE NOW!!!!!!!!!!

'lito'brito said...

just think...the next time you light up some sexy mexy..or do that bump...that you are depending on these fucks for your supply..or the next time you hire an illegal guy...wonder which smiling guy is capable of this shit?...


and remember all this is over money...the greed is unlimited ..as is the cruelty...this shit has nothing to do with doing business..just being evil

i agree with anon...build the fence...NOW..

Anonymous said...

Every cocaine user in the USA is a contributor to this shit....guilty guilty. As for the pot, I say Mendocino and Maui grow the best anyway.

Anonymous said...

this is inhumane! they don't even do this in horror movies if you think about it... at least not in any of the movies i have seen. i would much rather be killed by the jigsaw from the saw movie than this. wow! GOD bless our world..

Anonymous said...

mexico needs be run by a dictator. Marshall law now, clean it up then start over .

Anonymous said...

I pray that God shows NO mercy to the people committing these hanus acts. Life is a beautiful gift. I hope all of those people suffer and be tortured eternally in hell. People disgust me, worthless, simply worthless.

Anonymous said...

It's over Mexico.

DEL *.*

Re-install Dictator and eradicate all who oppose.
Copy all Singapore drug enforcement laws into your director.
Now run executable.

Anonymous said...

We have this on our border in the South so why should we give a ph*ck about whats happening in Iraq or Afghanistan? Ten years and a few trillion dollars is enough. Its time to send Iraq a freaking bill and protect THIS country here at home. I hope Trump does run and wins. Maybe he'll FIRE all those useless ballsacks in Washington. Its time to get serious with the cartels in Mexico and the drunken drug addicts in D.C.

Anonymous said...

how long before they do it here

erzsabetbathory said...

By next week the Cartels will be making chorizo out of the citizens of California, and Jerry Brown will approve because he wants the Hispanics to like him, and he does not want to offend anybody, especialy criminals.

Anonymous said...

The fact is that its so far outta comtrol down there they dont know how to stop it! Even if they did it's way too late! So who's stupid enough to go to mexico after seeing these photos! Would you seriously travel there even if you all your expenses were paid! Use some common sense Americans! Oh yes not everyone is blessed with common sense! Do the cartels care that they are destroying one of their country's primary sources of income! Mexico's problems will only get worse then spread here! I say nuke um!

Anonymous said...

Is there any wonder why so many want to get the hell out of Mexico and come north?

Anonymous said...

Ah, Mexico. Quaint, lovely little place. Just make sure when you're on your way to local watering hole you don't trip over the heads in the street...

Anonymous said...

All you pot smokers and coke snorters: you help support this carnage. You have a lot of blood on your hands as well. Congratulations-morons!

Erick said...

With our unchecked imigration how do we know these monsters ain't our next door niehbor b/c we have no idea who these people are who are crossing our borders be they drug cartel killers or terrorist

Anonymous said...

Just two more idiots that thought they would get rich in the drug game (lets hope!0

Anonymous said...

This is great for tourism.

Viva La Mehico!

Anonymous said...

I'm ashamed to be Mexican. We have truly lost our heritage and the world hates us. When will the Mexican people rise up agianst such violence?

Anonymous said...

Everyone thinks that these youg mexican turks are the first ones to do F' up sh-t like this
don't be so nieve. I'm over 60 and an American
with spanish blood. W'eve been doing this in S.A. and even here in the states for years. We just make sure Only certain people see the results, not "YOUTUBE" I mean the scare tactic is for your competitor not the General Public! You have to remember these young turks have been brought up in abject poverty; sleepin on dirt floors in some shack in a village without electricity and all of a sudden "Mucho Dinero"
for doing something like this and killing him
when a couple of months ago he was doing it because he was drunk! Now the Local El Jeffe is
actually saying here's $50.00 USD go F--k him up and make sure everybody knows why? Get Real people these people have no qualms about death.

Anonymous said...

THIS IS JUST SO SICKING!!!!MENTALLY ILL FUCKEN SICK PEOPLE...

Anonymous said...

SWOT Hunter said...

Legalization may be one way to ease the pressure in the short-term. But is giving in going to change what's inside the hearts of minds of the people skinning, mutilating and torturing others?

Just a thought. Will legalization prevent newly legalized drug businesses from competing with each other in this manner? The only difference I see then is state sanctioned/protected drug trafficking. What kind of standards/morals does this fall under? Does this mean society determines right and wrong by what feels good?

Just some thoughts...



This swot hunter really thinks USA has nothing to do with these horrible international affairs... so sweet, little innocent thing.

Oh, and he has some thoughts about how legalization, long term, wouldn't stop criminal organizations who would suffer a sudden stop in cash flow from training and hiring new people...
He thinks legal drug companies would keep fighting the same way... oh, wait a minute, maybe I missed some news reporting Budweiser gunmen shooting Heineken representatives and skinning them alive. Yes, that's it... don't legalize drugs, because look at the horrible booze cartels that kept growing after alcohol was re-legalized in the U.S...

Final thought, yes, not being at risk of dying feels good, you know? Consider the possibility that you can't distinguish evil from good. Maybe it's evil that honest people have to be afraid or die in a lost war they're paying for with their taxes. Maybe it's not so evil that a drug addict, after paying a lot of taxes for their weed, ends his life as he chooses to. He will anyway, illegaly or not. Yes: your preacher may be wrong, maybe legalizing drugs it's not immoral, maybe the USA forcing the rest of the world to keep it illegal, having Mexicans, Colombians, etc... die for your American junkies, who are mostly adults, probably don't have your very moral religion and can decide for themselves, maybe that's immoral. Just a thought from a Christian Mexican pissed off at the American Christians who think they can tell right from wrong from going to the church every Sunday.

Anonymous said...

Looks fake. Hate to say it, but it's quite possibly fake.

Anonymous said...

definitely not fake. the question of whether the victims were skinned prior to death is unclear simply by looking at the photos

Anonymous said...

I'm horrified. I will NEVER go to Mexico again. I am sorry for the people who are stuck living there.

Anonymous said...

Start the Revolution.Mexican People. Your government is the biggest piece of shit. Time to clean UP......

Anonymous said...

Alive or Dead that is getting Time to clear out this Scum that Do such evil SHIT

Anonymous said...

illegal drug use isnt a question of morality..or good and evil..its simply a preference for one drug over the other.when alcohol was banned people still drank.alcoholic drunks were still drunks.regular casual drinkers still drank,this whole argument is retarded.the whole good and evil thing is stupid as hell.people with that stance are obviously brainwashed by drug war propaganda.its a social preference.we decided alcohol would be legal.its no less dangerous than anything else.it kills as much as coke heroin..etc.the real reason legalization will never happen..is the fact that the billions of tax dollar dumped into this "war" would stop..money is power...power is control..u control the funds u are powerful...also legalization would make narcotic producing countries economic superpowers overnight..i personally would rather see that...than a drug lord have the same.the power shift that would occur with legalization..wouldnt be good business for the empire..therefore making it evil.common sense will never prevail in this imperial explotative culture of ours.

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Anonymous said...

Damn dude what the fuck is wrong with people these days ? Seriously the government of mexico should declare martial law for a few weeks and send in the army to every suspected drug cartel hide out and excecute every single one of them take no prisoners !

Anonymous said...

the guys that did this should be doused in petrol and set alight!

Anonymous said...

Holy shit... oh well just goes to show, we all the same color on the inside. And whats with the sombrero? Thats some fucked up shit right there.

Anonymous said...

there probably scum anyway

Anonymous said...

America this is your future- you freely choose it. You would let your children and grandmas be raped in the ass just so that people don't say you are racist or politically incorrect. You will have your face torn off in the same way by the same gangs because you won't secure your borders because someone might whisper that you discriminate against mexicans

Nick said...

Wake the fuck up, people! THIS is reality. Your favorite little Fox "news" channel, along with others of the controlled media, love to feed you their crap, and you just eat it up like the ignorant being you are. You're a sheep, is what you are; a tool. They'll tell you anything you want to hear. Some of you have your head so far up your asses that you think the world is just a ray of sunshine. Those that do, need to check theync.com. You think these PHOTOS are bad, there's a video on there, among others, of two captured rival drug cartel members by the Zetas. One has his head sliced off with a chainsaw, the other gets the dull end of a blade to the neck, as you can clearly hear him choking and gagging on his own blood, his body forcibly gasping for air through his open trachea.

Anonymous said...

If we americans lead the legalization of drugs world wide only the gangsters wil be against it. They wont show their face just pay religious fanatics to do the talking for them. And a lot will fall for what they say. But this is the realaty of what we have to deal with. . The politicians don't care because they're not exposed like we are.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised nobody noticed the "Z's" carved into the mens chests

Anonymous said...

I say we should go to war with mexico for killing american citizen tourests and end all this with our military forces. They would just blow them the fuck away

Anonymous said...

All illegal drug sellers and buyers in the USA are contributors to this shit!

Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!

Anonymous said...

THEY CANT B SKINNED ALIVE.....THEYLL MOVE 2 MUCH....THATS BULLSH!TT

I'm sure there are plenty of drugs out there that can be given to the victims to keep them pretty still yet alert while they get skinned

Anonymous said...

Thats right...dont fuck with the Beltrans, or else they'll stick your dick in your mouth after they have stuffed your face up your own back passage.

Anonymous said...

Wow just the face why not just try to skin the whole body then light the corpse on fire after cutting the heart out

Anonymous said...

thats just desturbing why whould you or anyone for that matter put pictures of people that has been skinned, grow up!!!!

Anonymous said...

PEETA has some videos of people doing this to animals. They're still alive after being fully skinned.

Anonymous said...

hey where's the video of them being skind alive ?? I don't think its even possible really

Anonymous said...

Wow just the face why not just try to skin the whole body then light the corpse on fire after cutting the heart out.. lol who ever said that is evil lolololol

Megasiza said...

I love it that the killer has put the sombrero back on his victims head! xD

Anonymous said...

April 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM any evidence to back up your claim

Anonymous said...

See yeah, ouch maybe getting ones head cut off is the way to go now, these guys seriously suffered, yeah it probably hurt when they were skinned but the real pain starts when the air hits those exposed nerves, the tissue starts to dry a bit and every breath is agony from the sinue and plasma drying in the open air..

Anonymous said...

Yeah thats some gallows humor right there with the sombrero but the fucked up part is they left these guys faces on the ground next to them. Man that is some hard core hateful shit right there....

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Richard said...

Why don't we just nuke Mexico? Seriously, get all of the civilians out, and launch the Tomahawks! These sick fuckers really don't deserve to live, and it wouldn't really be any great loss. would it? Or perhaps, just declare war on them until they sort out their country and stop this sick shit.

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