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Monday, August 1, 2022

We Snitched And We’re Also Free Men!

"Sol Prendido“ for Borderland Beat


Pedro Flores and his twin brother Margarito Flores, both Mexican-American drug traffickers, worked closely for years with the Sinaloa Cartel to distribute tons of its cocaine and heroin to dealers in the city of Chicago. They were each instrumental in bringing about the downfall of Joaquin “El Chapo" Guzmán Loera following their arrest by the Feds. 

As voluntary informants the two collaborated with the American authorities over a period of time to secure their freedom. Unfortunately, their prized privilege to move freely wherever they so choose after a 14 year prison term comes with a great price. This is due to the fact that any and all betrayals against the Cartel de Sinaloa are never forgotten or forgiven. 

The shadow of lingering death because of their double crossing ways is now a perpetual curse in their lives. 

197 comments:

  1. Set up some glue traps or decon, that’ll do the trick.

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  2. Kato Rangel sends his regards, ratas.

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    1. Kato can't pay back the 300k he stole from them

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    2. The rule of the game is don’t go around stealing or you will pay the price. Kato was getting a good price for his drugs. No need to steal from the hand that feed your ass. Burn in hell Kato. Rata.

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    3. 4:00 and 5:19 you don't know shit, but that is all you talk with your mamadoras...
      How many pounds would you "steal" to get somebody else's woman?
      In your world una uñita

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    4. Sue you don’t know shit about it. Kato was a rata thinking he would get away with taking someone else dope. 100s of kilos. He paid the price and his woman decided to go with the bigger dog. The brothers were good salesman’s and they didn’t have to kiss ass to get kilos and kilos. Kato and his Latin Kings were a bunch of ratas. If you are getting g a good price just pay for it or lose your life.

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    1. Stfu you woulda done the same.

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    2. And yet you say nothing about the ray "El Chapo" and his family who had DoJ snitch deals with permanent immunity and permission to sell fentanyl and narcotics in the USA in exchange for "Intel" on Los Zetas activities in the USA.

      That's fucked up. Chapo is a rat and an unhonorable man.

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    3. Lame ass rats he said. LMAO. Impossible for you to see the big picture because you can only dream to be like them.

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    4. I bet you are quiet about Zambadas children snitching. Most of Sinaloa cartel are RATS

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    5. 5:30 envy is some lame ass rat

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    6. @Sir chips-pitos. Those ratas transported more drugs than you will ever see in your life. Those ratas sold more drugs than you will ever dream about. Those ratas made so much money than the money you will ever see on the lottery. Hate all you want. You will never ever be close to 2 percent of what they were. Those ratas saw it all made money meet the real bosses of drug cartels played their cards and they are still alive free and with money on their pockets. You Sir have nothing but the hate that makes your culito pump like a hoe.

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    7. Lol 904 crushed SIR

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    8. 9:04 all that money and they will always be ratas, once a rata always a rata 🐁

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    9. @9:48pm. Isn’t that the name of the game ? There are more snitching on the criminal world than religious people out there and you people still think there is honor among criminals. From thieves to drug trafficking to murder someone will always talk. It is amazing that you people still believe criminals have honor. The criminal world is a conniving world. Weak up fools.

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    10. @12:43. These informants would say "yeah I'm a rat, but a free one." Get deprived of your freedom. Then you'll understand how it should be treasured beyond measure.

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    11. 5:54 hell no ratting is not part of the game.

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    12. These rats must have not loved their father since they knew he was going to be vaporized because of their snitching. Killers by their own hand or by order but cowards to accept their own punishment.
      Their father a real trafficker y Mexicano, these chumps definitely USA born and cultured

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    13. 2:27 is one of these guys who does 20 years for delivery of a gram and has no clue why everyone else is getting probation.

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    14. Yep two Mexican rats and a African rat thinking it’s cool to be around them. So dang lame

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    15. Wasnt 50 talking shit about tekashy for been a rat? WTF? I think 50 also snitched not 100% sure but im defenetly 50% sure 🤣

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    16. @7:41pm You most have a brain damage. Tekashi was not part of those fools so he can not rat on them. He was paying them just to get fame. So you are an idiot.

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    17. 7:11 ok smart one, who is they? The blood gang that tekashi snitched on? You lost me there, im not sure what you are talking about, are you saying tekashi is not a snitch? If thats what you are trying to say well let me tell you something, he is 100% a snitch and if you believe other wise than you must be the one with brain damage

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    18. Jesus whats with you guys and talking about "snitching"? Pathetic, you all sound like complete dumbasses.

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    19. 7:28 Jesus!!! Whats up with you getting all offended? Dont tell me you are a snitchloa

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    20. Sir aint got no friends.mad at the world always puting people down.never has anything nice to say but thinks he knows everything and nobody else knows shit.Stupid motherfuckrr.

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    21. 9:36 you have to inderstand that Sir is a Zombie, so he is not all there

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    22. 2:27 must be in kindergarten. Snitching is part of the game but he/she/it doesn't realize it.

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  4. Flores Brothers were forced to snitch. Caught up in the middle of the BLO vs CDS.
    What would you do if Botas Blancas tells you .you work for me onlu then Mayo Chapo tells you ,you work for us only ???

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    1. Beltran Leyva Organization

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    2. That’s right. It was a hard choice for them to make.

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    3. what were they gonna do kill you in the US, could’ve worked for either or and still made money.

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    4. So this a recent picture los twins

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    5. @11:18

      Not even a week old. It's very recent.

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    6. So you’d be afraid they’d kill you in the US for working with rivals and you think snitching is the solution out of that? As if they can’t get done now. That photo IF its recent doesn’t exactly scream witness protection. They’re trying to get him snatched up and forced to give as much info on them as he can.

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    7. They all be snitching

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  5. Chapos snitching on El Chapo 💯😝😂🤣

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  6. All rats in the pix

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    1. Yes how did you guess, it does pay to be a snitch.

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    2. When did Fitty snitch?

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    3. He never did back then when you get assaulted the law automatically puts out a order of protection on the ppl the arrest for it so it. Was ha rule brother black child

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  7. Y en el radio un cochinero !!!

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  8. The JALISCO twins. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    1. Shut up michoarata you’re just mad Jalisco will take over michoacaca

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    2. You wake up and the first thing you think about is Jalisco. Jaja. We live rent free in your mind loser.

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    3. Even if they were from Jalisco, that's 2 outta 500,002 snitches from Sinaloa!

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    4. LMAO. All the triggered JALISCOS punching the air, talking bout, "NOOO! say it aint sooooo!"

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    5. Damn jalisco loosing the snitching contest bad 2 to 100 sinaloas 🤣🤣🤣

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    6. @2:17 you know michoacanos run Jalisco right? Just because it’s “ cartel Jalisco” doesn’t mean the leaders are born and raise in Jalisco idiot lol Jalisco has always been run by sinaloenses and now by michoacanos just a FYI kid

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    7. 2:17 replying to himself @2:01

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    8. 3:38 you are trying a little to hard, theres a saying that goes, "dime con quien te juntas y te dire quien eres" any and everybody that works for or with the sinaloas is a snitch, dont matter what state you are from, if you works with the sinaloas becomes a snitch, its a law in the cds, they make you sign a paper that says " I ___ will be a snitch as long as i work for cds" and when you sign it you are good to work with them, again dont matter the state you will become a snitch if you work for the cds

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    9. Actually their dad was from Sinaloa

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    10. @7:40 'was' being the key word. 😄

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    11. 7:40 i dont know why some guys wants to make them pass as jalisquillos when in reality they have at least 50% sinaloan blood, dont matter, they worked for cds and who ever works for cds becomes a snitch 100%

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    12. Yes i read his dad went to culiacan an got killed sol

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    13. https://youtu.be/pNSDPuQxKu8

      https://youtu.be/ETDDv_KNfds

      https://youtu.be/pNSDPuQxKu8

      757, 740, Eran de JALISCO. It's a hard pill to swallow. Don't worry though, them or Chapo dont even know you guys exist. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    14. 9:29 sure bud keep trying, never give up, dont worry about other people saying you are trying to hard, they dont know what you been through for been were you are from, keep at it and im 100% positive that one day the word Snitch wont be sinonimus of sinaloans, even if it takes 50 years never give up 🤣🤣

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    15. 9:29 you putting up them GUS Vlogger links?🤡😝😂🤣

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    16. 9:29 care to answear 9:56 question?

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    17. https://youtu.be/1uILX_eC_zs

      850, 956, all Gusvlogger does is read excerpts from different books. I'd trust Gusvlogger over Chimuelo Sargy any day. Now go ahead and click the link without crying.

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    18. All the Jalisco fans coming on here claiming they were from Sinaloa, Zacatecas, Durango, anywhere and everywhere except Jalisco, cause they can't bare to accept the truth. They refuse to accept the fact that the two biggest rats that started the snitching party are from JALISCO. I got you guys cursing your phones out talking about, "fuck grillonautas, fuck gus vlogger Joe Shmoe in the comments said theyre from Sinaloa and Zacatecas" 🤣🤣🤣 No se aguiten, JALISCOS are snitches and crybabies too. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    19. 9:57 cool man, now lets make it official, whats the book where he read the twins were from jalisco?
      I mean you can always google all this stuff and no were does it say they are from jalisco not even his dad, so im confused, i mean you dont believe sargy but you believe that other dude, me my self i dont believe none of them, i do my own research and come out with my own conclucions, lets just stick to facts and the fact is Cds are the biggest snitches in the game #1 🏆🥇 🤣

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    20. 1239 LMAO "SAY IT AINT SOOO!" "FUCK GRILLONAUTAS, FUCK GUS VLOGGER, FUCK EVERYONE WHO SAYS THEY'RE FROM JALISCO! YOU GUYS DONT KNOW SHIT! WAAAAAAAAH!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's gonna be okay mija, you can cry, I won't judge you. Si lloro el Chapo que no vayas a llorar tu. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    21. @9:57/10:22 jajajajaja that link you put up is oro molido. Puro SNITCHaloense that testified against Chapo. Y luego sus marchas en Culiacán🤡. You think they gave Chapo a wedgie when making him face the cameras? Regarding where the twins are from, son pochos...err Mexican-American los vatos. Según las viejas de ellos su suegro era de San Juan cercas de Guadalajara. Google maps shows San Juan de los Lagos como el más famoso. Cool. Like I already wrote up thread, Margarito Sr was mexicano and a real trafficker. You can say he was Jalisciense and from what has been reported he was disgusted with the twins actions and met his death trying to fix the situation. Murió como gallo. Grillonautas another site just like Gus Vlogger that uses a fake voice, never shows their face and regurgitates others stories. This is too easy. Gus Vlogger recently did two videos on Sargy, you tell me who follows who for material🤔.
      Te bañas hedionda

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    22. 5:06 jajaja you are good man if you keep it up like until now, its only gonna take you about another 19 years and 360 days, as long as from now on no sinaloan snitches, 🤞 so that from now on they keep their mouth shot so you can come out and say loud and proud "I am a snitch! I mean a sinaloense!!!"

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    23. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "SON DE SINALOA! NO, SON DE ZACATECAS! NO SON DE DURANGO!... NO, SON ERRRRR, COMO LA INDIA MARIA, 'NI DE AQUI NI DE AYA!' SON POCHOS VALI! MEXICAN -AMERICANS LIKE CHEECH AY" Puras patadas de ahogado. You JALISCO fangirls are funny. I'm literally laughing here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    24. 652 whatever you wrote makes no sense buddy. You get an 🅰️ for effort. Keep up the good work, you'll have your GED some day. I believe in you. Suerte vali.

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    25. 10:52 it wasnt ment for you, but 5:06 knows was up😉 you get a metal por metiche 🥉

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  9. Witness protection is legal freedom, not personal freedom. They will be looking over their backs for the rest of their lives. They punished themselves.

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    1. 99% of people dont recognize their own family they havent seen in few yrs. No one's gonna recognize these clowns!

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    2. 99%? I had no idea Alzheimers had gotten to this point.

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    3. Exactly, 3:32 even forgot he had Alzheimer's!!

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    4. The fuck are you even talking about? Witness protection is protection. Has nothing to do with freedom. That would be “immunity”. Yes they’re usually a packaged deal but still, I don’t see your point.

      Even the people who were witnesses in the El Chapo trial are still heavily protected to this day.

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    5. No one has been killed in the witness protection program yet.

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  10. Article edit:
    This is due to the fact that any and all betrayals against the Cartel de Sinaloa are never forgotten or forgiven...Unless snitching comes from the higher ups

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  11. I was going to give 50 a pass thinking that's an old picture but los Flores were not known until AFTER they snitched. 50 mad that he's a dinosaur so trying to get attention like most instagram and OF hoes.

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    1. Im sure his doing a show based on them thats 50s new hustle making tv shows on drug dealers

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    2. You "pass"? Who are you?

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    3. 844 my watch costs more than your luxury car. I'm no tecato giving 2 for 1 bj's como SIR.

      ~Acapulco red panty guy

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    4. 2:31:
      50 Cent was toying with the idea of making a show about the Flores twins. Apparently, that idea was dropped.

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    5. 9:46
      Typical all mouth no brains.

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    6. 9:46 gives 10 BJs for one peso,
      Mexicano, and swallows too.

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  12. Good afternoon everyone.

    So is that how they are looking now. ? Arent they not supposed to be showing themselves.

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  13. They just doing what cds does best ratas

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    1. Only thing Sinaloa does best is move product with as little bloodshed as possible …call it snitching, call it what you want your just another michoajoto who’s butthurt about sinaloenses using their influences with the law to bust their enemies .. this is chess not checkers dumbass … so take your
      g-code and shove it up your ass .. michoacanos will always be at the mercy of those who run la frontera, always have and always will be .. se quedan con su pinche estado no más pa chingar a los agricultores de limón y aguacate porque no más eso saben hacer .. pero eso si bien listas pa señalar a los sinaloenses como ratas .. and to top it off these fools are from jalisco not chinola ! Pendejo !

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    2. @3:34 RATA Chinaloense

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    3. 3:34 is a complete moron

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    4. 3:34 tell me you are a snitchloa with out telling me you are a snitchloa.
      "This is chess not checkers dumbass" 😂😂😂
      3:34 You can call what you want but still snitching, and its so common to you guys that you call it all different kind of things, like been smart and shit, if you guys were really smart you wouldnt get busted and you wouldnt have to snitch 🐁

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    5. 653 LMAO you're the same guy who walks a straight line. You don't push weight, you don't sell ounces, you're not gangster but you pretend you would go out like a G in a hail of gunfire or do life in prison before you'd snitch on your homies who are squares just like you. You're a clown with a helleva imagination. 🤣

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    6. 9:38 Oooo you got me, yea i do all of that in my dreams and guess what i still dont snitch in my dreams! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 actually i dont know who you are talking about, theres a lot of guys who comment here, but from what i can tell his comments got to you 😂

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  14. Like Niki Barnes would say...." I rather be called a Rat and be a Free man.....Than be called a Stand up Guy, in be in Jail for the rest of my life".

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    1. Like every thinking person would say, "i rather get my money legally than get busted for selling drugs and have to snitch" 😉

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    2. @3:43pm you got that right. Chapo was going down anyway. What not kill two birds with one stone.

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  15. Pic is from Facebook post from fiddy on July 30 promoting something called, "Surviving El Chapo. The Flores Twins." https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=620778936279852&set=pcb.620778966279849

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  16. A good summary: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/25/23277165/chapo-pedro-flores-margarito-vivianna-lopez-valerie-gaytan-immunity-prosecution-sinaloa-cartel-drugs

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  17. I can't believe 50 Cent's corny shows sell. Too bad entertainment doesn't require a degree. He makes things so tacky. His level of creativity is on par with ghetto nonsense narrative. I'm sure these twins have no measurement of class or art to make their show too. They will upsell it and make it more fictional in their view of what's grand. They are just another uneducated pair who had the resources and connects to make their position possible. They were born to it and made themselves feel special about it. Business intelligence is one component to a person. Integrity and character cannot be bought. The higher ups in Mexico only care about efficiency and the market. That was their mistake too. Not surprising seeing as many in that generation of narcos are just hillbillies in a position of power. That means more ignorance. Either way all humans generally are the same with emotions and informants can't be predicted. Sometimes maybe a different education van save you from that. Or at least longer than other common narcos. I can't believe I lived a couple blocks down their house on Killer street in Archer Heights when I was a kid. At that time someone close to me was kidnapped. It was the same kidnapper who took one of the twins for ransom. One of their old drivers who I'm sure made a deal is always posting and talking about himself as if he's in a movie where redemption is the main theme. There is a constant holier than thou tone to it. Typical Chicago, half of these people are delusional in their importance. There are many other big players in Chicago. No one holds it by a fist. Not Sinaloenses, not Duranguenses, not Jaliscienses, not Michoacanos, not any group, and especially not the twins at their prime. Fuck 50 Cent and his has been self. He hasn't been good since 2005, and he'll never be good in making shows either. Imagine directors becoming rappers. Horrible. Only the fallen will associate with him for the money grab. I just can't understand why they choose him of all people to make their story.

    -Mickeyson de Chicago

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    1. Do you know where the twins or their family come from? I assume the twins are from Chicago or were born in the USA.

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    2. I can't tell if youre being sarcastic. Their roots are from Jalisco in the Los altos region. They were raised in Little Village and then moved to Archer heights which is 10 minutes away heading south. Supposedly they played ball at the Leclaire Courts which is where another dealer named Kato had a strong presence. The saying is they put Kato in the ground for stealing a shipment. I don't believe any man would casually be around after doing something like that. It's speculated his wife and the twin that wanted her put him in the ground in brutal betrayal and to take his customers. The husband of the first wife was also murdered before this

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    3. 5:55 their dad is from sinaloa their mother unknown

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    4. https://youtu.be/pNSDPuQxKu8

      https://youtu.be/ETDDv_KNfds

      https://youtu.be/pNSDPuQxKu8

      800 JALISCOS click at your own risk. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    5. @7:50 wasn't being sarcastic. I ask because it makes no sense to me for the dad to have gone to México/Sinaloa to try to work things out if he didn't think he could without being disappeared. He might have received assurances from somebody he trusted. Another poster mentioned knowing relatives of this family and saying they're from Jalpa, Zacatecas which is the state their oldest supplier who punked them when they were hiding out in México was from.

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    6. 5:55:
      Their father is Margarito Flores Sr.. He is from Zacatecas. He got into the business with the Herrara family out of Durango. You have to remember that the old notorious route 54 goes right through Zacatecas.
      I believe that the twins were born in Chicago. I do remember that Flores Sr. was in jail on a trafficking charge when they were born. They were raised in Little Village. The poster who says that they moved from Little Village during their childhood may be correct.
      Flores Sr. was living in Alabama when they flipped. Foolishly, he returned to Mexico. His car was found in Sinaloa with no evidence of fowl play. He hasn't been seen or heard from since.

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    7. 10:19:
      Flores Sr. didn't go to Sinaloa to work things out. He disowned the twins and then went to Mexico. No one knows how or if he wound up in Sinaloa.

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    8. Who should i believe Detroit or Mickeyson? Or the dude that gives fake links? Man this is driving me insane!!! 😂

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    9. 8:55:
      We both might be wrong. That should drive you even more insane. We are both making our best guesses from publicly available information and our memories.
      It is clear that Mickeyson knows a lot more about Chicago and 50 cent than I do. He may even know some of the players that I don't. However, I am very familiar with the Altos region of Jalisco and it would be my best guess that Flores Sr. was born on the Zacatecas side.
      I like Mickeyson's take that Rangel wouldn't stay so casually around if he stole 150 kilos. Several people have been convicted in Rangel's killing from the Viceroy/Four Corners gangs, most recently Spann.
      I usually go with whoever was convicted as the perpetrators because the police and prosecutors have a lot of information that we don't. However, in this case I have serious doubts about the individuals who were convicted.
      Also, you have to remember that Rangel was lured to a barbershop in rival gang territory. He was supposed to get his hair cut with his buddy. He most likely would have watched the NBA playoffs at home. He would only have trusted someone on the inside, not a member of a rival gang.
      You have to remember too that the Herrara family preceded Quintaro, Fonseca and the Gualajara Cartel. The Herrara family was smuggling cocaine 20 years before the Gulf Cartel. Back then, cocaine was primarily smuggled through Guadalajara. The Guadalajara to Tamaulipas route was the primary route used in the 60's and 70's to smuggle cocaine. That is why eastern Texas has always led the border in seizures. The infrastructure was already in place since the bootlegging days which became the infrastructure used by drug traffickers.
      The whole case against Spann et. al. was built on jailhouse snitches which have a habit of being unreliable. Think back to more than 10 years ago all of the innocent people convicted by jailhouse informants in LA because the prosecutors used jailhouse testimony in their case in chief.
      There was no tangible evidence in the Rangel trials. The entire cases were built on jailhouse informants. I am totally against prosecutors using jailhouse informants in their case in chief because this leads to innocent people being convicted and the guilty going free. Spann probably committed the other murders that he was convicted of, but I am not sold that he murdered Rangel.
      I give more credence to the theory that Rangel was killed by Margarito Jr. and that Margarito made up the the claims that Rangel stole several loads. You have to remember that the rumors are that Rangel was stealing loads on an ongoing basis and that he was killed over the loss of 150 kilos in one of those loads. Rangel was raised with the Flores twins. The Flores twins knew the intimate details of smuggling through their father. The Flores twins would have known if Rangel was stealing and he wouldn't have remained in the position if he was stealing.
      The prosecutors have information that I don't but I'm not totally convinced in this case.
      I don't know if I gave you some clarity or if you checked into a hospital.

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    10. Cada quien su gusto but them Flores wives look like Horoscopos de Durango tranny impersonators.

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    11. 11:08 jajaja

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  18. Fuck you too man. I have great respect for Mr. Curtis (50), he is a great business man with integrity..

    Regardless of whether you think he is a talented actor, artist, or musician. You sound like a jealous hater to me. 😂

    Curtis & Co. designer men's watches are fly.

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    1. Can’t forget Gunit clothing you probably still sport l.

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    2. Fack the fashion and the fashionistas, but 50 has made his ass a billionaire, unlike some pasty whites, his daddy did not lend him one million dollars to get started...

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  19. The Flores brother were really good business men. They knew how to move weight. They just got caught in between two lunatics fighting for control. This guys are not killers or soldiers. You can call them what ever you want. Many people will love to move as much weight as they did but can only dream about it.

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    1. Selling drugs is a means to an end and too many fools keep at it until they:
      1 get arrested
      2 get killed
      3 become addicts themselves
      4 retire
      The order all depends on how these individuals think and act.

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    2. The Flores brothers were killers. If they were so smart, they would have chose a legitimate enterprise and be sailing on their yachts right now without a worry in the world.
      It takes years of hard work to be successful in any business. They chose to take a short cut and are paying the price. They got lucky in that both are still alive and have their freedom. Most in this business aren't as lucky.
      They have the incredible misfortune to know that they or their family can be whacked at any moment. Now they have to live their lives like hunted animals.
      They chose to participate in this business and now must face the consequences of that decision.

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    3. 5:25:
      The Flores twins weren't good businessmen. Their father was a forklift driver for Brachs candy but made his living working for the Herrara's. He was released from prison when the Flores twins were 7 or 8 years old. He showed them how to weigh dope on a balance beam scale and to package it before they were in the third grade. The Flores twins were major players before they turned 18. They learned their trade from their dad.

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    4. A bit of trivia. The Flores twins were kidnapped in Culiacan by an AFI agent who turned them over to the DEA. El Chapo, El Mayo and Vicente Zambada all became involved. Minutes before the U.S. Marshall's arrived to pick him up in Culiacan, El Mencho picked the Flores twins up and drove them to his ranch.

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    5. Nope @2:45. Mencho wouldn't be in Culiacán. This is part of the stories the twins girls used to sell their book

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    6. You have to remember that this was before El Mencho had a name in the game. El Mencho wasn't big until Nacho Coronel died.

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    7. 5:23 im not saying that Detroit is right but if you think about it Mencho been a Milenio Cartel member working side to side with CDS (Nacho Coronel) could easilly travel around any CDS plaza with out any trouble, this war between cjng and cds started when Chapo tryed to kill mencho in colima after Nacho's death, Chapo knew Mencho was gonna be big trouble and tryed to get rid of him, didnt work and boom cjng was formed

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    8. @5:41 turn them over to the DEA in Culiacán but were rescued by Mencho? Fuck yeah that would be a good fearless leader. You think he politely asked DEA to turn them over to him or did he have to use threats and firearms? Must be a sealed indictment waiting for him if he's ever captured and extradited to the USA on those actions.
      Ask yourself why would other mafiosos just submit and follow his orders if he didn't have power before ICV death? Almost 40 years in the game and he was a nobody until 2010 huh?

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    9. 8:10 😂😂😂 40 years in the game? Did he start when he was 1? TF? Maybe 25 years in the game but not 40, malditas drogas!!!!

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    10. 825 Mencho got caught in Frisco back in 1986 looking like a home depot worker. I don't know when he first arrived but it was far back enough for his 37 year old daughter to have been born in the U.S. So almost 40 years is about right. Was he a nobody? Who knows🤷🏻‍♂️... refer to a Chimuelo Sargy podcast. That guy seems to know everyone and everything.

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    11. 11:02 o yea he is been in the game for about 40 years give or take, but the way you said it, made it sound like in 2010 he was already in the game for 40 years, and was a nobody, anyways the Milenial Cartel was a really lay low cartel, wouldnt be bragging and shit like we know who with their fake corridos, mencho was already a top hitman like chino antrax and all the sicarios that you hear all this corridos about, so to say he was a nobody until 2010 gives me the impretion that you are a Gilbertona

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    12. 725 sorry to break it to you but I'm not 810 or a "Gilbertona". I didnt make the initial statement, I chimed in because 810's statement sounds about right. No need for you to get all defensive.

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    13. 8:46 if it sounds right to you well good for you👍
      I have just one question
      Do you also think Mencho was a nobody until 2010?

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    14. I made the 5:23 and 8:10 comments. Regarding the twins getting arrested in Culiacán, if my memory still works, it was actually in PV or somewhere in Jalisco as told by the wives of the twins in their book. That's how RNOC is included in that supposed rescue from the AFI's.
      Detroit wrote that he wasn't powerful before ICV death, sure he wasn't the leader, but he was one of many lieutenants in the organization and was capable enough to be "nominated" to become the boss. My 40-/+ years in the business wasn't clear enough that I meant up until now, so 30+/- when ICV was setup and killed. 🍺

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    15. @5:40 read the comment Detroit wrote @5:41 on 8/2/22 and that's what I've replied to. 🍺

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    16. 6:45 o i see, mist the ? Mark at the end, my bad

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    17. @8:10 Detroit didn't say he was a nobody. Detroit said he wasn't big before Nacho Coronel was killed.

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    18. 7:55 And u really think their supposed rescue happened in CLN?🤔

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  20. The Flores brothers are responsible for importing billions of dollars in drugs and hundreds of murders. Their U.S. operations are responsible for thousands of murders in the U.S. The toll to U.S. society is incalculable. There are few people who deserve to sit in an electric chair more.
    When their lives were on the line they realized how much their money was worth as compared to spending their golden years in Florence, Colorado.
    Cooperation with the U.S. government pays. Even if they didn't receive a dime from the U.S. government, they both have been given a second shot at life.

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  21. The recorded phone calls between Flores and Chapo were captured in a recorder purchased by Mister Flores at Radio Shack.
    No fancy equipment ,no NSA/ DEA /FBI phone taps ! You would think the biggest Narco Boss would at least electronically disguise his voice .

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    1. Snitches lives matter.

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    2. Would disguising the voice really make a difference though

      Would probably just be a few extra hours of lawyer arguments.

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    3. Compare 50 cent money to the wise ass businessmen criticizing him and let us know who'd you rather be...

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    4. Snitches lives matter only if they have something to give the government. If they don't have anything to give the government, they are on their own.

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    5. 5:39:
      The Flores twins were cooperating with the DEA for more than two years before they turned themselves in. The recording equipment was provided by the DEA.

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  22. Flores Brothers had 3 choices .
    1. Work exclusively for Arturo Beltran and be killed by Chapo/Mayo
    2. Work exclusively for Chapo/Mayo and be killed by Arturo Beltran.
    3. Start to work for the USA government.
    Everyone here would have chosen option 3 !!!!
    Just like Tekashi 69.
    Who was betrayed by his own people kidnapped and robbed . He would have died in jail to protect the people that betraysd him . He made the right choice ! But most people call him names yet would have done exactly what he did ,if they were in his position. Yet completly ignore the fact that many very famous rappers have snitched . But 69 is Mexican .

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    1. i would have taken either 1or 2…during a war you need money.. after the outcome choosing 1 would’ve been bad

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    2. Everybody on here would go option 3 no debate. but snitching is not part of that life has no place.

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  23. Man ratting gotta be in the CDS handbook. When caught give information on rivals because you can't win any battles. you only win anything in your corridos. Its CDs protocol

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    1. Wait, there’s people who don’t rat on rivals? That’s gotta be idealism in its most retarded form.

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    2. 6:05 Cds have 3 golden rules
      1: if caught snitch on rivals
      2: id snitching dont work and you get extredited cry like a little biach!
      3:when in the Usa try snitching again even on your own comrads, snitch as much as you can even if you have to snitch on your mom

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    3. 806 jajaja I don't understand all the gay cheerleading for CDS

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    4. 8:28 i mean they could be cheering for other stuff instead of drug dealing but for some reason thats all they know drugs, its kind of funny but sad at the same time

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    5. Cooperating with the U.S. government is in the handbook of every cartel. AFO really got the ball rolling. Sinaloa only built on their success and raised cooperation to an artform.

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    6. Gooooo CHAPITOS!!! Yuppie! Yay!!! Gooooo Sinaloa!!! YOU CAN DO IT

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    7. AFO snitching? The story is they wanted to shot rockets at drug czar McCaffrey when he went to the San Diego region...

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    8. The AFO are from Sinaloa

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    9. 6:15 yes but they aren't CDS

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  24. Flores Brothers Lives Matter

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  25. CJNG fans are shouting “rats, snitches”. Guys, look at every CJNG you will see rats in action. CJNG are always making videos telling on people and this is why CJNG will never be a factor.

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    1. Im No fan of either but to say CJNG isnt a factor you have to be a CDS groupie!

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    2. 1056 you're a fan. Your knee pads say "CJNG"

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    3. 6:50 is a moron

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  26. Lol well to be fair, imagine snitching and NOT being a free man. If it turns out like that then you’ve done something wrong.

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    1. Look up Anthony Gaspipe Casso. He snitched out the Luchesse family hierchy and still got 455 years

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    2. Casso made a deal to snitch but he was cought smuggling shit into prison and his testimony seem to be different than sammy the bull on some things and sammy was considered more thruthfull so the government canceled the deal.

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    3. 11:25 gaspipe lost his agreement when he continued dealing, he had no permission to keep his shit going up and up and now cries like a little girl who lost her teddy bear...

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  27. I'm retired law enforcement. When I would question suspects and they'd rat out someone, I'd think, "Good for me and the case!" On the inside I'd also want to spit in their rat faces. Too many pussies who didn't want to take responsibility for their own actions.

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    1. You should retire from being a snitch... we know you weren't law enforcement!

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    2. @8:50 It doesn't sound like you have much law enforcement experience. Many people snitch outright. These people snitched as part of a plea deal which is totally different.

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  28. I think it's sooooo adorable that everyone commenting about snitching are doing so from the comfort of their homes and most likely are the ones that would end up telling stories to get out of a long sentence. We know they snitched. Payback sucks. The cartel appreciates it, but they don't need you to stick up for them on forums. They can handle it. The fact that you guys put so much effort into dogging people you will never know is sad. Quit cyber banging and get some sunlight. He'll, drive to the track nearest you and go by a berry and fuck all that cartel anger away. I like to read factual info in the comments, not some wannabe thugs talking about things they will never experience.

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    1. The funny thing about this is that in reality they had no choice. Most likely they would have died because of the stupidity of Chapo and Arturo Beltran.

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  29. I wrote the previous post. I accidentally published before autographing.

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  30. I'm new here. Where are all the pictures of the chichonas y nalgonas I was promised in your ad

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    1. SIR will do anything you want for jale azul.

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    2. I think that was el blog del narco

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    3. SIR is a clown 🤡

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    4. 9:50 is Pinky Panties
      and 11:24 se las come vivas...
      Don't make me come pinchis clowns

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  31. I wonder how many of you dumbasses would post stupid comments guys if your identity was revealed ?

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  32. The Flores twins have a new book coming out entitled The Art of Cooperating With Uncle Sam. It should be available on Amazon soon.

    *note: this is a paid endorsement.

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  33. They're already working on their next book which is called: How We Turned Chicago Into a War Zone and Got Away With It.

    YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST ON BORDERLANDBEAT!!!

    Renew your subscriptions today.

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  34. That's crazy how they say kato was a leader and had all this respect ... If that was the case he would of never got blasted !!!!!

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    1. 11:54:
      Rudy Rangel was a head of the Little Village Latin Kings. He was killed at a barbershop in the territory of an opposing gang. I am thinking that they were the Vicelords, but I could be wrong.
      Anyway, there is a rumor that Rudy stole 150 kilos from the gang that was working for the Sinaloa Cartel.
      Before his body was cold, one of the Flores twins was banging his wife who was the daughter of a Chicago cop. His name was something like Jerome Finnigan or Flannigan who himself was sent to prison.
      Anyway, as the story goes, the Flores twin had Rudy whacked so he could hook up with his wife.
      So the two lead theories about Rudy's murder are that he was killed by the Vicelords for stealing the 150 kilos or by one of the Flores twins so he could get his wife. I don't know which is true but I believe that one of these two theories is most likely.

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    2. who gives a shit?

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  35. The bar association guy getting murdered gets only 7 comments while this one gets 106 despite being posted first. I think there is more than one person here seeking advice in case they ever get busted.

    Either that or Borderlandbeat readers don't think that bar association guys lives matter.

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    1. Nope. What gets a lot of replies is some CDS cheerleader trying to rationalize the snitching. The dude that jacked and kidnapped one of the twins was ultra hardcore with the tattoos, firearms and his crew but when he was sentenced to multiple decades in the feds he practically shitted on himself. Jajajajaja! Can't do the time, don't do the crime. It's that simple "G"

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  36. Yeah snitching pays.

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  37. I think what helped the brothers is that they always took a pass when it came time to kill someone.

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  38. These guys made the US government millions since 2005.

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    1. How did they make the usa millions? Explain

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  39. I don't understand all the gay cheerleading for for any of these puto cartels.

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  40. 50 fucking suspect. He be cool with too many snitches

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    1. 50 cent cashing in. You'd be doing the same if you could draw the publicity that he does. He doesn't say that he supports snitching. He supports what brings the money in.

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    2. @8:32 sounds like a teenage wanna be gang member. He has a lot to learn.

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  41. Borderlandbeat is probably the only website that only draws 8 comments for a beheading and 800 comments for a snitch.

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    1. Don't let those numbers fool you sir. Some of those beheading videos with little to no comments tend to go way past 80 thousand views in a matter of very few days.

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    2. We can talk mierda in the comments, thanks to this guy Sol. Not much to be said about a gruesome video. Just “ouch”.

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  42. They will be on Aqui ye Manana channel 34
    For a one hour special.
    Then they will become Narco-corrido rappers.

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  43. Whatever happened to the Chapo snitched guy. He would wet his pants if he read this article.

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  44. These fucks should be in the ground already, el que traiciona una vez traiciona dos veces. unfortunately the world is not how it was 20 years ago. what was taboo back then is not taboo anymore. what was hated back then is celebrated now. how the fuck are we supposed to know if we're going forwards or backwards

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