Saturday, August 1, 2020

Michoacán: "El Mencho" stars in a CJNG video for the first time, "I am Mencho....my war is with El Abuelo"

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat

Although the speaker’s face is concealed, for what is the first time, El Mencho stars in his own CJNG message video as he challenges El Abuelo to come out and fight in Tepalcatepec, Michoacán.

Juan José Farías Álvarez, alias Abuelo Farías, leader of  Carteles Unidos in the municipality of Tepalcatepec.

C.U. is a coalition of several groups in Michoacán formed to defeat CJNG and prevent their taking control of Michoacán.

"People of Tepalcatepec, I am Mencho. I want to clarify that my war is against El Abuelo, also Tilí, Moy Farra, Chelo Pólvatas…. the people who raise weapons against my people.

"I ask all innocent people not to leave their houses, we do not want to harm you, you know well that I like to support the people, I always look after their well-being.”

"I repeat I Mencho, will fight the motherfucker El Abuelo."

“And to the lowlife, Abuelo, stop sending stupid people [to fight] who do not even know how to hold a rifle.”

Mencho offers elements of the Tepalcatepec National Guard double the payment they allegedly receive from El Abuelo, if they do not get involved in the fighting.

"And you National Guard of Tepalcatepec... opposed to the pay that El Abuelo gives you, I offer you twice as much and without you needing to fight, as El Abuelo, has you do.

“I only care that you do not hinder my people when we go to fight.”

Early this morning, social media lit by residents in Tepalcatepec, reporting that there were clashes once again when CJNG entered the municipality.

CJNG has targeted the overtaking of Tepalcatepec and the “Carteles Unidos”, resulting in several clashes with an undetermined number of dead, burned property, burned vehicles, and roadblocks.

The active support of Abuelo by the people has made the CJNG effort to control the plaza more difficult.

75 comments:

  1. AnonymousJuly 28, 2020 at 5:51 PM

    Chivis does Trump or Putin control what the police on the street do? A few months ago I shit on him and someone saw what I wrote they told his dumb-ass to stop posting shit. That guy that posted the reward posts hasn't posted since. Go into the Carlos Allende facebbok page their is a video of the Carteles Unidos from today they went into el aguaje and they ended up getting destroyed. The Blindada and 10-20 are dead.

    What CJNG is trying to do in Tepaltepec, Los Reyes, La Costa, Coalcoman is simple they want El Abuelo, his Children, family, his associates their families all dead.

    Why? It is very simple CJNG was the one that feed them, armed them, looked out for them helped them get rid of the Templarios. They bit the hand that feed them they stole from the hand that feed them they turned chapulines. The reason they killed El Morisqueto is simple he was trying to amend what Poncho La Quirnga, Los Herrera, Whicho el de los Reyes had done but they weren't having any of it.

    CJNG financed the autodefensas along with El Gerardon and numerous others. When everyone started flipping on the Templarios all along the Jalisco border with Michocan and the few that stayed loyal started to get incarcerated or killed, Los Viagras and then La Tuta flipped, Chanda, Cenizo, then Migueladas followed and El 500. Cemei and his cousins in la Costa took advantage and went to El Gerardon who gave them weapons that is how la costa turned Autodefensas.

    Los Viagras were the first to betray CJNG, they betrayed El Americano and El Gerardon, they betrayed Chanda and Cenizo, El 500 was also killed by los viagras, El Gerardon and El Americano were handed over by El Abuelo Farias because they were dealing with the viagras, Last but not least Los herrera, Whicho el de los Reyes, poncho la quirnga got the bright idea to betray CJNG and rob them of a shipment. Mencho told El Abuelo to return what was stolen and everything would end there. He never answered then the Viagras dropped a bunch of flyers over Tepeke flyers offering money for El Abuelo and his associates. El Abuelo thought CJNG had done that and went to the Viagras forged an alliance. This is where we are at now.

    The Next attack CJNG makes is going to be a blood-bath they are going to use weapons that have rarely been used. They are going to do something Mencho rarely does they are going to pay the government to not show up in Tepeke to ignore their cries. They are going to hit everything someone wrote the next Allende I wouldn't be surprised.

    I told you Mencho isn't playing any games this is serous stuff. The Carteles Unidos are forcing people to go and fight against CJNG in El Aguaje and they are getting slaughtered. No one wants to work for them anymore they are the lowest shit you can find in organized crime.

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    1. Hi!

      I went to the FB page and did not see any fotos of dead narcos.
      I agree with a lot of what you state, but not all. For example americano and the viagras.

      TY

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    2. 6:46 PM No bodies Cartels Unidos are not going to post their dead. The Jalisco's haven't posted anything either they probably won't they did send a certain person a video of one of the boys they captured verifying that he was forced to go and fight. The GN not paid by either CJNG or Cartels Unidos indi units told him what they seen. If he posts the video's they sent him you can find them there.

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    3. 7:33 let us know when you find Bigfoot too and the chupacabras

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    4. 6:46 PM Teplatepec, Los Reyes, Cotija, Periban, Aguillila, Coalcoman, Apaztingan, La Piedad were all financed by CJNG and other narcos.

      El Americano, Buenavista, Tancitaro, La Ruana, La Costa de Michocan bordering Colima was financed by El Gerardon.

      Los Viagras controlled Pinzandaro and the communities around there, Urupan, Ario de Rosales, Lombardia, Santa Casilda, Zamora. The Guerrero region that borders Guerrero like Zihuatanejo. Remeber La Tuta was their boss. They were 5 or 6 brothers.

      With Nicolas Sierra Santana and Daniel Sierra Santana Chaco controlling Pinzandaro and the surrounding communities I strongly believe El Boto worked for Nicolas when they were Templarios.

      Rodolfo Sierra Santana controlled Urupan or the surrounding areas like Ari de Rosales or Lombardia and then took Urupan from El Chivo who was probably one of Nazario guys just like Kike in Nueva Italia.

      La Sopa Carlos Sierra Santana controlled Zamora or the areas surrounding that area.

      Marianno Sierra Santana and Gabino Sierra Santana controlled what is that area I mentioned earlier Zihuatanejo Guerrero.

      Those are the areas the Viagras still control except for Zamora, Lombardia. The whole origins story about the Viagras coming from Zirandaro Guerrero is most likely disinfo the informant fell for. I think the Viagras are from the Zihuatanejo area.

      Chivis the Viagras are experts at doing what I described I witnessed it when I first got into the whole war in Michocan in 2015 before that I got my information from Borderland Beat. Something had to have happened for El Americano to Leave Buenavista because the Viagras were afraid of him and the H3 financed by El Gerardon.

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    5. @ 9:10 PM Thank you for the input. A few questions: After Daniel “Chaco” Sierra Santana was captured along with “El Harry” a little while back, I have read that Estiven “Mini Gordo” Sierra Paredes replaced “Chaco” in the leadership structure. Is that the case? Or did Chaco and Harry get released (again)? Also how do former FM/CT like Tena and Tukan play a role in the fight?

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  2. That’s definitely Mencho’s voice. It sounds exactly the same as the infamous Delta 1 recording. Also, the bazooka is scary looking, but it is an AT-4, which can only be used once and cannot be reloaded. You can even buy the used tubes online.

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    1. Yeah I listened to that recorded call with the police captain and it does sound the same

      Phelpso

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    2. I just went online and used a free voice comparison software. It was free so reliability is not the best, ran both the delta call and this one and they were about 49% which by the software analysis means its not the same.

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    3. Soy Mencho guey (In a really pissed off voice).

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    4. I'm sure I'm wrong, but my take it's actually a communique by Mencho via a representative.

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    5. i dont believe that to be el mencho. more propaganda is all. he is a sewer rata always hiding out. Only a voice analytical authentication would see if that was him. i dont see any confirmation by mexican authorities clearly positively identifying that to be el mencho. All speculation until proven otherwise. This cant be substantiated so until then i for one am a doubter. Where is the proof that is him??? Someone saying “oh it sounds like him”. Come on a jury would toss that crap out.

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    6. I don't think that's him speaking. Though he personally might've told someone to write the PR release but someone else is reading it.

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    7. @7:03 Did you trim the Delta 1 recording to only Mencho’s dialogue before you ran it through the voice comparison software? Or did you just compare the two whole audio files? If it was the latter, the software will simply compare both voices on the Delta 1 recording to this communique. If that was the case, a 49% match would indicate that this is in fact Mencho’s voice, by about a 99% probability. Post a link to the results of your voice analysis program if you stand behind the claim that it is not Mencho’s voice on this latest video. I was right about the shout out to “JP/3” on the previous Grupo Elite video, and I strongly believe that I am correct about this as well.

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    8. We really cant trust someone who thought that Grupo Elite commando was screaming out "grupo balin"? 😂😂.

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    9. 4:55 This is not mencho. Theres only 2 known recordings of mencho. The police phone call and a video where Mencho interrogates 4 kneeled captives while his 4 sicarios stand behind them in the mountains.

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    10. 4:55 you are correct

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  3. They just said it's not mensos voice doesn't match recording from 2016. Either way they stay crying with this propaganda!! At least they recognize they took another L. Actions speak louder then words. Still barking lmao.

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  4. lol this guys becoming a joke

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  5. I think he wants his truck back

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  6. I think that man aint coward mencho, he is only delivering "his" message, coward mancho is hiding somewhere

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  7. And yet, the puss× doesn't show his face.

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    1. If that is Mencho seated at center, I believe he would dress the same as all the troops to send the message that he is in this fight as well; he may be a boss, but came up as a sicario/estaca and he intends to go out that way.

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  8. This has to be a joke. He has Producers writers. Lights Camara action

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  9. Lol So just to make it clear..he’s saying he wants a one on one fight?

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    1. El abuelo would kick his sick ass.

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  10. I don’t think that is Mencho nor would he risk appearing and making a video when the military and US intelligence can use strategic location AI tracking on the background and surrounding areas in the video. Also, the speaker at the table is physically not Mencho. Mencho is a skinny dwindling sickly person probably already near death. The scumbags at the table are to big to be the head cockroach. If it was him he would not be wearing the balaclava to hide his identity. He would want everyone to know it is him speaking. IMO

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    1. Hard to tell whether the comandante in the center is Mencho or not. I’ll pose another possibility for you; Mencho records the audio message at a secure location, the comandante in the center reads the message and they replace the audio with Mencho’s recording.

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    2. That's reasonably a very realistic possibility.
      ~704

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    3. Yup. The little hospital they found just last month proves that. He doesn't have the best doctors working on him, kidney failure (allegedly what he has) can and will kill you.

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    4. True, if that really is El Mencho he would not be covered up. He would want everyone to see him and recognize that it is him and he is the main player. Why hide when intimidation works well if the targets looking at him know it really is him and he means business.

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    5. Jajajaja this is a frigging joke. To be the man you gotta beat the man. Badass himself? Don’t think so. He is getting ready for TikTok jajajaja. I agree he prob did record and they played the communique like it was him talking from the table. For 10 million US cash he is not there or was not at that table as he is more paranoid then RCQ. Billions of bucks to live like a king but sleeping at different locations every few hours. What a life. Jajajaja. Filthy dirty living in the woods. Unlike Saudi’s with tents with a/c’s. He can’t afford to leave a footprint accessible from satellites to be living in comfort for the past few years. The noose is tightening and I also believe some Marina’s for what he has done in the past to kill law enforcement will be executed like Che Guevara and spit and pissed on. Die how you live and live at your home in purgatory for eternity burning and feeling the pain in death eternally. Amen.

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  11. His hideout is so remote that they couldn’t get any vehicles to the recording. No doubts that Mencho provides the best weaponry to his entourage, but after seeing the video with the caravan of elite troops in armored vehicles, this crew looks ragtag and underfunded. Money talks and if the National Guard listens, no bueno; and it just takes a handful of grasshoppers to change the tide. If we see a pull back from the GN, I’m afraid Abuelo will be isolated quickly because anyone that can walk/run/scurry away from the current CU pact, most definitely will if it means surviving and retreating to a safe stronghold. I expected CJNG to catch a windfall of major setbacks and captures after their failed attack in Mexico City. I thought the same after the ambushed and killed those 14 police. And then again when they dropped the army chopper. Starting to believe the whole Cuini / CJNG business model created resources beyond imagination, and unfortunately fed the sociopathic imagination of Mencho and his network.

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    1. His hiding in the mountains with a built in ground bunker like saddam hussain etc even mayo doing the same just like that tv series zerozerozero

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  12. That may be his voice but it is pre recorded like his deceptive silhouette from 15 years ago. Expose himself live on camera? Yeah, right. With a ten million bounty on his head? Like Osama, only a few trusted lieutenants get anywhere near his ass.
    Another lame-brain stunt. Enjoy your money and power in self imposed paranoid cuarantina you killer.

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  13. Thats not mencho thats el chapo under that mask 🤣🤣

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  14. Let's see what the anonymous experts here have to say.

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  15. Estan reportando que no es el mencho

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  16. In post production? This is straight up comedy

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  17. Looks like someone got insecure from Marro’s videos. At least Marro made his videos by himself and showed his face...

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    1. And couldn't remember his mothers, fathers or his own name when he was captured

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  18. Mi abuelo says that is senor mencho mi abuelo has never been wrong

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  19. Animo compadres!

    Señor Mencho has made a direct appeal to the good people of Michoacán to go about their lives peacefully and not interfere as his army marches to liberate Michoacán from the Carteles Unidos 🐀. To the unfortunate youth who are fighting for El Abuelo, surrender now and live; otherwise you will share the same fate as the Zetas we defeated. Viva el señor de los 🐓!!!

    Caballero de Jalisco🏴‍☠️🇲🇽

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  20. What about the other video where the guy at the table is wearing a Black & white Fox shirt? Was that Mencho??

    I think there is no reason for him to risk death or capture by filming a video outside, however if it is him? Maybe he wanted to look like a sicario if something did happen?

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  21. What they are. Is really still in that production.

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  22. HOW DOES THE ABUELO MAKE MONEY

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    1. Hes one of the biggest drug dealers in Michoacan.

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  23. Appears to me like he's just reading a scripted letter FROM El Mencho. Not actually Mencho.

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  24. I can say that either the voice recording was done at the same time as the video. Or if prerecorded it was laid over the silent audio of the location. The wind noise in the microphone matches the wind in the video. I do video production for a living. (Imagine the video crew for these cartel videos )

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  25. this guy is just embarrassing himself now

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  26. REAL talk.. MENCHO can't take michoacan PLAZA.. UNLESS he has the MARINA, local cops and GN on its side.. And by GN I DON'T mean gente nueva from CDS... Just SAYING...

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  27. What a total Embarrassment to the Amlo Government, do they have no pride in ur mexico, run a bunch of Bad Bad people. Who u protecting?????

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  28. Are we supposed to be scared of this clip? Looks like amateur hour.

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  29. What's this going to do for the price of avocados?

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  30. I dont know if mencho knows this but he has $10 million on his head. Offering soldiers double their salary if they work with him makes no sense. Abuelo doesn't have 10 million reasons for someone to kill him but mencho sure does.

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  31. I am sure Mencho is hiding his altered so they don’t recognize him face. So amateur and yet desperate when they think plastic surgery will allow them to have the life they once had (freedom).

    Mencho has been in some serious battles, ask yourself why is he all of a sudden doing this? What’s changed? Why so many propaganda movies recently and why now? Half of his immediate family is locked away in the States. And is he really that sick? Is this the motivation for this nonsense? These guys are drug dealers, apparently the foreign mercenaries they hired have made them lose sight.

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  32. A bunch of envidiosos right here. Don’t hate the player hate the game.

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  33. I doubt Mencho is in pic. With his frail and sickly body he is a strict quarantine as he's a goner if he gets Wuhaned!

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  34. he cant even beat a grandpa and some rancheros who cant hold rifles. I used to think cjng was bad but this is just sad. This dude is nothing compared to Chapo. Chapo wacked Ramon Arellano, Rodolfo Carillo, El JL, Francisco Arellano, etc etc I could go on all day.

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    1. Mayo’s people whacked Ramon & Francisco Arellano fyi

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    2. Chinaloas cómo siempre con sus mamadas

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  35. "I ask all innocent people not to leave their houses, we do not want to harm you, you know well that I like to support the people, I always look after their well-being.”

    Yeah, nah, not buying that bullshit. Little Nemesio is a lying, lowlife, scumbag whose fate involves rotting in or under a prison. The sooner the better.

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  36. Mencho? I don't see anything propping him up

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  37. Breaking all the g codes. Gangsters move in silence!

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  38. Gather round everyone let me explain this to you. Only hand full of people probably see Mencho. He can't risk one of these guys being a mole or infiltrated to kill him or call in their location. Sent by el Senor M or anybody. Or maybe he killed a member of their family or just to do it. Family gets paid if they die doing it?

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  39. You people are calling him a coward for not showing his face, you forget that in the video where he calls out Alfaro the infamous "mariachi look alikes "he also didn't show his face. what benefits would he get from showing his face?. The approval of a bunch of weirdos online who don't have the heart to kill a fly? LOL

    Do you guys really Buy in to him being sick? The hospital has been there for years he may have paid to remodeled it but that doesn't mean he uses it for dialysis this dude I have mass amounts of money and resources to pull off a successful kidney transplant do you really think he's sick? Really think about it for a second.

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    1. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    2. Funny guy! Lmao

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