Friday, May 1, 2020

Hipólito Mora confirms resurgence of the "autodefensa" groups in Tepalcatapec: "I don't know if it is for better or worse"

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat  90 Grados and material from FB and LaVoz


The founder of the self-defense movement in Michoacán, Hipólito Mora Chávez, confirmed that Tepalcatepec woke up this morning with the mobilization of armed civilians who identify themselves as “atuodefensas”, although he refused to say whether it is comprised of narcos.

This, after Thursday, Juan José Farías Álvarez “El Abuelo”, identified as a local criminal leader and part of the criminal association “Carteles Unidos”,  called for the general mobilization of people in Tepalcatepec and municipalities where this criminal group is present, as a means of pressure, because of  the capture of four people close to him, two of them his operators, one who is his brother-in-law, arrested in possession of 280 kilos of cocaine and made available to the public prosecutor's office of the federation, but apparently they were released.

In an interview for a national radio medium, he noted that "indeed, there are already self-defense groups in Tepalcatepec and I think there will be in other municipalities."

Mora


"I do not know if it is for better or for worse that they have taken up arms, what I am sure of is that Mexicans are alone, we are abandoned, there is no one who worries about giving us security," said the founder of the self-defense groups that emerged in Michoacán in 2013.

He noted that entire convoys of armed people circulate in that municipality, to which no authority assists.

"It is so shameful that they even find four or five trucks of armed civilians and (the authorities) cross each other as if they were friends: Nothing happens, there is no one to put order, we are before governments that are useless, only to collect and lie to society ”, he sentenced.

He said that currently in Tepalcatepec and the region there is a war going on, "it is true that there are clashes from time to time, but they are not made public, society is not well informed and unfortunately it is what we are experiencing."

Abuelo


Last Wednesday, personnel from the National Defense Secretariat who were sent by air to Aguililla to support the local military in a shooting against the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación in Tepalcatepec, with an armed group of at least 18 people,  who were guarding a plane with 280 kilos of cocaine.

According to sources, this group was made up of people from Tepalcatepec and Carteles Unidos, under the orders of Juan José Farías Álvarez, “El Abuelo”, a former leader of the self-defense groups who now heads his own criminal group, after breaking relations with the Jalisco Cartel. 

The military seized the drugs and released most of the suspects, except two: "El Chuche" and "El Rayitas", who along with two others, were placed at the disposal of the Office of the Attorney General of the Republic, apparently first in Morelia, from where they were transferred to Mexico City.


To pressure the authorities for the release of the detainees, he began to organize people at his service in Tepalcatepec and the municipalities where Carteles Unidos operates.


Villagers say no!

According to photos and videos on networks, it is observed how meetings in Coalcomán and other municipalities the attendees do not exceed 50 people.

The inhabitants asked for the support of the authorities to end the criminal groups.

In the plazas where the meetings were held, the organizers presented t-shirts with the reading "self-defense group".

"Keep exposing how you want to manipulate the poor innocent people in their fights, in their particular interests that are of no use to the community, to the people who have the least," read Facebook comments.

"What did they think that the people were going to come out to support them? People already know that they use the people to make crowds and that they are supposed to defend them from the government, the good thing is that the people are not stupid. ”

According to the same sources, residents have denounced that 500 pesos are offered to women and children to go out to block roads in the face of a possible incursion by the authority, while other accusations indicate that at least 200 people have been deprived of liberty throughout the entity.

In the face of calls by groups of civilians to retake arms in the Tierra Caliente region of Michoacán, state authorities have reiterated the state policy of not allowing civilians to assume police functions.

The Ministry of Public Security confirmed that due to the locations and rumors of the rise of alleged self-defense groups, operations have been deployed in the region to contain the action of the groups.

74 comments:

  1. Cjng butt-hurts will come in crying calling these guys traitors just cause they have the nuts to go against these rats of mencho... think twice before u call someone traitor cause there's no bigger traitor than mencho...

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    1. Y el cartel de las traiciones de chinaloa que? No digas pendejadas nomás porque tienes hocico mamariatas

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    2. The Snitchaloa was the first to comment. Los Chocomiles are worse then traitors they are cowards trying to hide behind the skirts of the people when it was their actions that got them into the mess they seem to not be able to get out of.

      El Abuelo decides to send people to kill El M2 things don't go as planned. Pays the Sedena to capture El M2 instead of getting el M2 they capture his brother in law and one of his plaza bosses and take the cocaine they so desperately needed. In 6 months they either capture Mencho or El Abuelo and his chocomiles are forced to run for the hills.

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    3. You are a viagra /abuelo cheerleader , i dont support anyone , but i dont criminals to force innocent people to do or be on their behalf as these so called autodefensa leaders do .

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    4. who did he betray? lfm? zetas? what do you even mean

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    5. Abuelo betrayed Mencho, by stealing a aircraft full with CJNG coke and then aligning himself with viagras out of fear, when initially he was being financed by Mencho to fight viagras.



      Pura RAZA DEL CARTEL JALISCO NUEVA GENERACIÓN.

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    6. 7:55 no one mentioned Sinaoa dummy keep them out this is about what's happening in Michoacan

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    7. 8:55 cowards... really??? They didn't look like cowards when cjng tried to enter tepa last year n got some serious ass kicking by El abuelos people, BTW cjng also tends to use women n children as road blocks we just saw it when viagras kicked their ass in their own turf...
      11:22 he betrayed those whom he ran to(cds) when he was kicked out of his own state
      7:55 first butt-hurt mencha fan
      Most of u guys don't like El abuelo but how ironic that is,I bet u guys were the ones crying n clapping when he was arrested n released... Not a fan of any cartel but just brings me joy when there's one less Michoacaca breathing

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    8. 4:36 sure buddy the only reason for this autodefensas is his desperation he knows cjng are gaining on him i just dont see why he would form autodefensas again, and going after cjng? Why not go after viagras? But It wont work, they dont have a mr mireles, he was the real deal not this fool clown ass, i thought he was gonna woope cjng ass? Now he is throwing innocents in front for his war? Mireles was in front when shoot out went on, i daught abuelo has the balls to go head on like dr mireles, but he will get smashed the old autodefensas also had power cause cjng had their back but this autodefensas are just gonna hold tepeque cause the rest of michoacan knows they are not leggit and wont join them easy as that

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    9. @5:59 - wtf are you talking about?
      @8:55 - you should be a borderlandbeat contributor
      @4:36 - not a fan of cartels, but you are a fan of sense-less killings and slayings by cartels to "Michoacacas"?

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    10. 4:36 and what about now? He wants to fight drug cartels but only cjng? Why not viagras or he himself? Hes an hypocrite he is a drug dealer himself so he should kill himself

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    11. 2:17 my guess is because cjng is the one trying to kill him, like the old saying says "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"..

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    12. Nibody needs more viagras than the abuelo,
      Then viagras need no propaganda like an abuelo that can't get it up no mó.
      Now the babuelo wants AutoDefensas back in the game to help his lying motherfacking ass because that cocaine was his cocaine, and there will be pendejos helping for some peisos and linias de rayitas, ahi pal maruchan.
      The state police of Michuakan are the worst criminal death squads, looks like they are deserting el guau!guelo and that coke was the governor's

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    13. @2:05 pay attention wey, my comment was direct at the first poster that as is his custom will put comments back to back to back etcetera.

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  2. El abuelo desperate, cjng will take michoacan soon
    SNITCHALOAS please be nice in the comment section..

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    1. Snitchaloa??? That's part of the dope game Junior!! if cjng ever gets big enough you will see them in US court snitching too. That's if they don't get wiped out first. The CDS are just so damn big and established that's why you see them in US courts and some of them do turn snitch. Most! If they ever get big players besides mencho you'll see in the US.

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    2. 7:03 your comment is laughable

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  3. . Viagras tryna play the good guys card, after the massacre in agüililla.


    DENLES EN LA MADRE. PURA GENTE DEL SEÑOR MENCHO Y PURA RAZA DEL CJNG

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  4. Viagras scared as fuck.

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  5. The place of cowards traitors and snitches everything goes there no loyalty in snitchoacan😀

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    1. SNITCHALOAS tonto
      Don't flip the script 😆

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    2. Sigüe ladrándo este perro. Keep talking shit online like the coward you are sewer rata. We all know culiaculitas are a bunch of scrawny little envidiosos who get tossed around and murked by them MICHOACÁNOS frente a frente. PURO PINCHE MICHOACÁN apá.
      - VLNC MICH. -

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  6. Sinaloa sitting back enjoying woman sending mencho to take over snitchoacan 😀 less Snitchoacanos i Say let them kill each other

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    1. Chivis, I wonder if this guy who says snitch this and snitch that all the time is the same guy that made me hate the word nuthugger ! Pretty one demensional!

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    2. 11:47 no es una, ni semos muy machas,
      Pero semos bien muchas!
      Pinche rajona. Aaay chivs! comadre questo y comadre que lotro.
      Aguante la mazacuata güey!
      NO ANDES DE SNITCH.

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    3. @11:47 His comments and posts are adding more information to the story, express a different viewpoint and/or help create intelligent debate.

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    4. @7:44 his comment above is worthless, he only types idiotic comments usually back to back to back that start the back and forth shit typing.

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  7. This guy lost his home, livelihood, and only son to this mess.

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    1. Hipolito Mora may have more children,
      but the one that got killed, was because of el Americano.
      Now el Mamerican is gone, dead, killed somewhere, yeah i believe...
      Hipolito did not lose his property and may have collected some more to pay himself for his dead son. Is the comandante 5 hindú gone too?

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  8. Fuck cjng and that michoacaca that stays commenting

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    1. We certainly encourage constructive debate, but we will most likely comments that are off topic, offensive, contain personal attacks or comments that don't further the conversation.

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  9. The kingdom of sinaloa using mencho has face just like they used el chapo to buy more time The King mayo is a wise man when the government decides el mencho is dead man they are el mayos army

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    1. What kingdom is that? you lames in sinaloa have nothing left! Anything you clowns had has been snatched up quickly by CJNG! Tamps peeps been whooping your asses lately too hahah

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    2. You act like mayos gonna live forever

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    3. 1:38 CJNG will fall just as fast as they rised remember los zetas did the same It's not about who's the biggest it's not about who's the that is it's about who can a debt and last in the game

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    4. These ice heads(CJNG) are more terrorists then Drug traffickers. Bienvenidos al mes de MAYO PUTOS!

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    5. 4:29 eventually everybody dies but it's been years since "experts" have been writing of CJNG demise and they just keep expanding.
      @7:16 aka KingRat™. Lo que presumen al idolatrar a un ponededos colaborador de los gabachos. Jajajaja

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  10. VIENE LO BUENO.............

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  11. Lmfao @ chivis——caca-trolls on this comment thread.




    PURO CJNG. AVANZANDO.

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    1. 1:46 advancing to the cemetery....😄😂🖕

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    2. settle down little kiddo cheerleader

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    3. Who reviews these posts?

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  12. Puras 4 letras del terror CJNG 090 arriva el senor Mencho

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  13. Ese abuelo es un culo mandando a inocentes a pelear su guerra, no que muy bravo pues? Eso le pasa por irse con los viagras esos gueyes ni defenderse ellos mismos pueden, mandan a sus federales comprados, nimodo le llego su hora al puto abulo, Puro señor de los cocks jajaja

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    1. Los Viagra los estan chingando en Mich y Guererro

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  14. El abuelo ya siente la traicion de los viagras por puto.

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    1. 8:49 wasn't abuelo ur heroe when he was with cjng??...all u fans getting butt hurt calling traitor to anyone that has the nutts to say no to cjng even thou cjng is made up of nothing but flippers starting from the top...

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    2. 9:29 lets just say abuelo and cjng are the sane crap they are both drug dealers, but in this case abuelo actually is willing to sacrify innocents lives for a war that he already lost when he flipped to viagras, cause viagras are gonna betray him or maybe they already did and thats why he is brain washing innocent people to fight his war, so pretty much all drug dealers are crap but abuelo for this shit is one of the lowest shits

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    3. 6:01 funny how people like u react to abuelo stirring up the AD movement for whatever reason saying that innocents will be sacrificed which is truth but don't mention the fact that cjng are killing innocent people in a daily basis including children n women for no reason so now tell us who's the lowest worthless piece of shit out there abuelo or mencho...

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  15. Who else thinks viagras took that load?

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    1. Yep. Dude just got played by viagras

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  16. WhereDr. Mireles,????????

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    1. He learned his lesson. The government and the narcos can be the on the same team. He wasn’t one of them. He lost his freedom as a result. Why risk it?

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    2. He is laying low profile, as the government don't want him in autodefensas, he was as brainwashed in prison. He is a very smart man.

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    3. Dr Mireles is an officer in Morena government.

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    4. https://twitter.com/DrJMMireles?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

      he was appointed by AMLO

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    5. He is technically on bond, and as an agreement can't leave Mich or the country, can't be involved in AD movement, or those who are in the movement.

      be quiet and you can live sort of thing.

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  17. This is all BULL SH*T. There are no legitimate autodefensas in Michoacan, what's happening is that people from LFM/Viagras/Carteles Unidos/etc. are re-branding themselves as "autodefensas".

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  18. Good luck u don't have the support of Amlo Cartel President

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  19. It's funny how much envy these sinaloa guys have now that all you hear is cjng as the #1 CARTEL and you read these new articles of SINALOA child SICARIOS and SINALOA fighting each other in Sonora and in SINALOA
    Don't worry they will not last once the government switches sides AGAIN and cause more deaths in 🇲🇽.. Mexicans are ALL losing people in every state because of this FAILED drug war.. It's stupid to cheer for CARTELS

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    1. 4:11 sounds like u cheering already

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    2. 4:11 🎯

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    3. Drug war? There is no more drug war.

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    4. Sounds to me like you're cheering for CJNG.

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  20. How does he afford personal security? This guy has to have bodyguards 24/7 and live some where extremely secluded. What you guys think? Or he lives in the states.

    I remember when the auto defensas were coming up and making some difference. I thought there was hope for Mexico. As much as these auto defensas like Dr mireles. He seemed like such an imposing figure against these cartels and corrupt government. But as much as he seemed like an impressive figure. He got washed up by the bad guys. They made the doctor irrelevant and a non-issue over time. For something or somebody to come along and maybe make a difference in Mexico they would have to come at it a bigger than the doctor ever did. And the doctor did an amazing job at trying I think

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    1. Viva Dr. Mireles

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    2. Autodefenzas know that it's a losing WAR, government gets paid to capture or kill the leaders.. Money talks

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    3. Mireles is not irrelevant or washed up.
      You are deluded.

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  21. The cartel cheerleaders?
    What a pathetic bunch.

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  22. El boto leader of Blancos de Troya, and top lieutenant of carteles unidos was released from Mexican prison apr, 30th.

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