Saturday, November 30, 2019

One mistake trapped a desperate dad in CJNG's web....Then he vanished

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat TYGus  Source
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OS ANGELES — Oscar Macias gripped his cellphone and quickly hammered out a text message to his childhood friend Tommy Cantu.
Hey I think something s going down with me im on valley in el Serrano in two if I dont text u back something happend
It was 7:38 p.m. on July 20, 2014. A Sunday.

Twenty miles away in Whittier, California, Tommy’s phone buzzed as he sat down to dinner with his wife and two children. He glanced at the message on his screen, then scanned it again to make sure he read it right. 

He called Oscar. No one answered.

At 7:40 p.m., another message came from Oscar:
Text u every 2 hours
Tommy replied, asking if Oscar was "with the cops or on the news or street?"
Dont text me they keep taking my phone

Im at a shop
Tommy tried to keep his growing fear hidden from his family. Should I call Oscar again? Who’s he with? Should I drive out to east LA? Maybe I can find him? He kept his phone close, waiting for the next message.

Shortly after 10 p.m., it arrived.
It’s still cool text u in 2:hours dont text back
Another came at 12:34 a.m. 
If u cant find me or dont here from me with in 24 hours ……. dont text back I will contact u
That morning at work, one thought gnawed at Tommy.

He and Oscar had been nearly inseparable for almost 30 years. The last message didn’t sound like Oscar. He didn’t write like that, and he wouldn’t use an ellipsis.

Nearly 18 hours passed. Finally, at 6:05 p.m., Tommy’s phone buzzed.
Hey i had my friend pick me up already im going to chill with her … everything is cool thanks
Tommy was convinced. It wasn’t Oscar texting him. He messaged Oscar's phone and asked him to call from another number.
 Let me finish eating then I will call
The call never came. 
There were no more messages.

Tommy knew Oscar had been desperate in recent weeks, cut off from his youngest daughter by a ballooning child support debt and vulnerable to the kind of risky proposition that promised a big payday and a quick end to his troubles.

All Oscar had to do was something he’d never done before: Deliver 4 pounds of meth 1,100 miles up Interstate 5 to Tacoma, Washington.

But there was so much Tommy didn’t know. 

He didn’t know the man who supplied the meth had ties to one of the world’s most powerful drug cartels: Mexico’s Cártel Jalisco Nueva Generación, better known as CJNG.

CJNG cartel: Family searches for son who vanished after losing drugs

One father became involved with a Mexican cartel to reunite with his daughter. His family is still searching for answers years after he vanished.

Through brutality and terror, CJNG built a billion-dollar empire with drug routes through every continent except Antarctica.

A nine-month Courier Journal investigation into CJNG’s U.S. operation has found its operatives have quietly set up shop in large cities and small towns in at least 35 states and one U.S. territory.

Tommy didn’t know the danger Oscar was in when, a month earlier, he lost the meth shipment. He didn’t know the cartel’s violence, having already claimed countless victims in Mexico, could unexpectedly spill over the border to the United States.

But one question dominated all the others.

Where was Oscar?

Family photographs covered the dining room table on a September day at Carmen and Roque Macias’ four-bedroom home, nestled against the dry, rolling Whittier Hills in eastern Los Angeles County.

The photos spilled out of overstuffed albums, telling the story of a childhood that was anything but troubled.

There was one of Oscar in blue onesie pajamas, with his younger sisters, Sonia and Sandra. Oscar in a black tuxedo with red bow tie and matching red cummerbund, at a cousin’s quinceañera, and riding a dirt bike on one of the many Macias’ extended-family vacations.

Oscar’s smile is wide, revealing the prominent gap between his two front teeth that couldn’t be closed despite years of braces.

“He’d say that the girls loved it,” remembered Sonia, 40. “He thought he was the cutest thing. And he had these big ears and he’d say, ‘All the girls like my ears.’”

 Carmen and Roque Macias met when they were 11 at the church halfway between their homes in east Los Angeles. By 18, they married, and one year later had Oscar, their first of five children.

The family settled first in Rosemead, then Pico Rivera and, eventually, Whittier. 

Oscar was a tall and goofy kid, his family said, animated and protective of his siblings. 

He could be extremely gullible, though, and often needed his father to warn him when he seemed too trusting of strangers.

“Oscar, you have to be very careful,” Roque would tell him. “People will come and tell you things, and you’re going to believe them, and you end up getting in trouble.”

As early as age 5, Oscar went with his father to work on Saturdays. Roque was in eighth grade when he started sweeping floors at the garment-cutting business where Oscar's grandfather worked.

By his teens, Roque worked his way up to manager before leaving to start his own business: Beto’s Cutting. From its big factory in the tiny industrial city of Vernon, just south of downtown LA, the company cut fabric patterns for customers such as Sears, White House Black Market and Lucky Brand jeans.


It made the Macias children among the best dressed in the neighborhood.

Like his father, Oscar started working in the business at 16, gradually taking on more responsibility. 

By his late 20s, Oscar’s future looked bright. He was the father of two young girls and now in charge of the family business.

The business, however, was in trouble. Overseas competition and cheaper labor forced Beto’s Cutting to downsize to a tiny rented space in a friend’s building.

A few years later, Beto’s Cutting closed. 

Oscar needed a job.

Oscar was at his lowest when he met Lucas Manglona.


Laid off from the warehouse job his friend Tommy got him, Oscar sold tacos from a stand outside parties and worked the graveyard shift at a convenience store.

But he never earned enough to keep up with child support payments for his two daughters. And though his paychecks were garnished, that debt only grew.

More devastating, he was cut off from all contact with his youngest daughter — no more weekend visits, no more coaching her traveling softball team.

When they met in late May 2014 at a park near Oscar’s grandparents’ house in Rosemead, Lucas told Oscar he and several friends had been in trouble at a bar in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, while they all were on vacation.

They got tossed in jail, lost all their money and could only get as far as Rosemead before being stranded.

Oscar offered to help. He took them to his grandfather’s house and let them sleep in a car his uncle kept there. 

Two days later, only Lucas remained. And the story he told Oscar when they met was a lie.

Lucas Manglona was really a U.S. Army veteran whose wife left him right as he returned home from combat.

He was a meth addict, authorities said, a small-time drug dealer and a courier for a man with ties to CJNG.

When he met Oscar that day in May 2014, Lucas was in a tight spot. His crew missed their scheduled pickup — 5 pounds of meth from a Los Angeles stash house.

Lucas knew the consequences of returning to Tacoma empty-handed.
In Oscar, he saw a possible solution to his problems.

Federal authorities say Lucas was dating a sex worker. The couple convinced her “john” to drive them to LA to make the delivery, stopping first to pick up Lucas’ cousin in Oregon.

But as they tried to salvage the deal, the “john” grew impatient and demanded to return home.

Instead, they duct-taped him to the passenger seat and left him there.

That next afternoon, as guilt started to creep in, Lucas’ girlfriend cut him loose. The "john" bolted from the car, screaming for help as he sprinted past swerving traffic.

Aware of the public scene they just caused, his captors ran in the opposite direction. They eventually stopped right in the path of an unsuspecting mark — Oscar. 

Oscar’s past kindness to strangers meant his family was not entirely surprised when he invited Lucas to crash with him in the converted garage behind his parents’ house. They tolerated Lucas’ presence at Sunday dinners and birthday parties at relatives’ homes.

But something about Lucas made them uncomfortable.

“Supposedly he was broke, but he used to carry two phones on him,” Oscar’s father said. “He used to go to the corner to talk on the phone.”

About two weeks into his stay, Lucas offered Oscar a job. He claimed it was at his brother’s roofing company in Tacoma. 

Oscar stopped by Tommy’s house to borrow a pair of work boots.

The offer was contingent on one other task, which Oscar kept from friends and family. 

He and Lucas would first have to transport 4 pounds of meth to Tacoma. 

Until then, Oscar, 37, had kept himself largely out of trouble with police. He smoked pot but steered clear of the harder stuff.

And he certainly wasn’t a drug dealer, his family said.


But Oscar was desperate to be reunited with his younger daughter, now 18. And to do that, he’d have to quickly erase his child support debt.

It’s unclear if Oscar knew the man orchestrating the drug deal: Jesus Enrique Palomera.

Described in federal court documents as a CJNG "plaza boss," Palomera once bragged to an undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives about how he exacted revenge on a man who robbed him of drugs.

Palomera told the agent he needed only two hours to have that man executed, his corpse wrapped in plastic and dumped in a Tacoma-area river.

In 2012, Palomera had escaped an ATF raid. Safe in the cartel-controlled Mexican state of Jalisco, he rebuilt his network, moving untold kilos of meth up the West Coast to Tacoma and as far as Alaska.

He used threats to control a crew of street-level gang members and strung-out couriers, like Lucas, federal authorities said.

And now, he controlled Oscar, too.

Oscar raised his shaking hands above his head and slowly stepped from behind the driver’s seat to face the California Highway Patrol officers who surrounded the car on Interstate 5.

It was just after 11 a.m. on June 7, 2014. Oscar, his girlfriend and Lucas were about 10 minutes from the Oregon border when the officers pulled them over.

In the back seat, hidden under a child-safety seat and wrapped in plastic, were 4 pounds of meth, worth at least $7,000.

Their 2003 Honda Pilot was reported stolen to Whittier police three days earlier by Oscar’s mother.

She had been cooking for her grandkids when Oscar and Lucas came to ask for her car to go to
Walmart. She said she’d take them in a bit.

Instead, Oscar grabbed the keys off the counter and left. He didn’t come back that night or the next day, didn’t answer any phone calls or messages saying she’d report the car stolen if he didn’t return it.

So, on June 4, she walked into the Whittier police station and did just that.

Oscar was held in a Northern California jail for three days before he was released. Authorities chose not to charge him.

His family was stunned when Oscar called for bus money home.

Back at his parents’ house in Whittier, Oscar tried to explain what he had done, that he knew there were drugs in the car, but he needed the money to get his life together.

He looked older than his 37 years, family remembered. His face was thin and pale, his eyes tired. That big smile he once flashed with regularity, the one that earned him the nickname “Joker,” was gone.

“I know he was in a bad position,” his friend Tommy said. “He kept drowning. I’m not saying he did the right thing. But what else is a man to do when you’re trying to provide for your kids?” 
Oscar was only at his parents' house for a week before he told them he was leaving. He found a job as a live-in caretaker for a man named Daniel Vasquez, who used a wheelchair. Neither his family nor his friends knew who Danny was or how Oscar met him.

Roque helped Oscar pack his things — a bed, some clothes and a bicycle — into his truck. They stopped to pick up a washing machine for the house.

On the car ride there, Roque glanced over at his son. As a child, Oscar used to bite his lower lip when he was nervous or scared.

He was doing it then.

“I knew there was something wrong,” Roque said. 

At Danny’s house in east LA, Roque helped unpack the truck and set up the washing machine. 

“I wish I would have stayed there and talked more,” Roque said. 

He returned a few days later to take his son to lunch. 

Oscar was gone.
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Roque tried to visit Oscar twice more in the weeks that followed.

Both times, Oscar wasn’t home.

Two separate relatives told Roque and Carmen they saw Oscar. He was desperate to sell some drugs he had with him and to leave town.

“He never came to me,” Roque said of his son. “I could have just given him the money and got him out of the problem.”

When Oscar didn’t show up for his grandmother’s funeral in early August, Roque sent a nephew to Danny’s house. There, the nephew was told Oscar had been staying with two women in a nearby apartment.

At the apartment, the nephew met two women covered in what looked to be fresh bruises. They said they didn’t know anything about anyone named Oscar.

Days passed. The search intensified.

Family members tore apart their houses looking for clues. At Roque and Carmen’s home, Sandra found an unopened letter from Lucas’ girlfriend, addressed to Lucas.

People with guns came to their house demanding money, she wrote. Her life was at risk, and he left her hanging. What was she supposed to say if they came back?

“Don’t do this to me or my family,” she warned. “The longer this is going, people will start disappearing!”

The letter was dated three days after Oscar and Lucas were pulled over in California.

No one, it seemed, had seen or spoken to Oscar after his July 20 text exchange with Tommy. 

Finally, on Aug. 16, 2014, with the family’s worry veering toward panic, Oscar's sister Sandra went to police to report him missing. A Los Angeles Police Department homicide detective was assigned to the case.

Oscar's parents had priests come to the house to pray for his safe return. The family shared a missing person’s flyer and set up a GoFundMe page to aid in the search. They drove down to their vacation home in Baja, hoping he’d be there.

Sandra scoured Facebook for photos of her brother or any new friend requests he might have added. 
They answered every phone call from every unknown number and chased down every possible sighting.

“There were things that would bring us a little bit of hope,” his sister Sonia said. “Then you’re right back at the beginning. You have to start all over again.”

Right before Christmas 2014 came a new and promising lead.

The mother of Oscar’s youngest daughter started getting child support payments from garnished paychecks coming from some factory in Sioux City, Iowa.

If Oscar had been in trouble and needed to disappear, the family thought, surely there was no better place than a small town nearly 1,600 miles away. 

Roque and Carmen quickly wrote down the factory’s address and set out for Iowa. 

They drove day and night, never stopping, certain at the end they’d find Oscar. 

They finally arrived around 3 a.m., outside of what looked to be a poultry factory. A security guard stationed near a massive parking lot didn’t want to let them in. Eventually, he called a manager to speak with Roque and Carmen.

The manager listened politely but said he couldn’t tell them anything about an employee without a police or court order. 

Having little luck at the police station, they returned to the factory. This time, they found someone more sympathetic to their story. 

There was someone named Oscar Macias employed at the factory, they were told. 

Roque and Carmen were shown a picture of this Oscar, only it wasn’t their son.

They called LAPD. Identity theft happens all the time, Roque remembered the detective telling him.



Oscar’s parents said very little to each other during the 23-hour drive back to Whittier, too exhausted and defeated for conversation. 

Two weeks later, the LAPD detective called them. Investigators never found the person using Oscar’s name and Social Security number.

The search for Oscar continued.

To Oscar’s family, his disappearance had been a matter for local law enforcement. That changed in early 2015, when federal authorities in Tacoma called to schedule a meeting at Carmen and Roque’s house.

About a dozen relatives packed into the living room for the meeting. No one recognized the men in the photographs they were asked to examine.

However, one face stood out among the others. He looked young and handsome, clean-shaven, jacket collar popped, staring expressionless at the camera.

His name was Jesus Enrique Palomera, authorities told them, and he was the man whose drugs Oscar had been caught with.

Palomera belonged to the powerful drug cartel CJNG. Oscar’s roommate, Danny; Lucas; others unknown to the family — they all worked for Palomera.

Oscar most likely had been murdered, an agent told them, and it was Palomera who ordered it.

The family sat in quiet disbelief. Maybe Oscar wasn’t dead, they thought. Maybe he was alive and in protective custody; him being dead must be the cover story authorities tell families in these situations.

In that moment, the family was confronted with a frightening reality. Palomera was walking the streets of Mexico. If Lucas really had worked for him, as the agent said, then Palomera could easily know the names of Oscar’s relatives and where they live.

Would Palomera and the cartel come after them next?

"Because, the cartel," Roque said, "they get even with kids, families."

Overnight, Roque installed security cameras around the house. He bought a gun, stored it in a box with a quick-release button, and kept the box next to his bed. 

Months passed while Oscar’s family lived in fear

Those worries were eased, slightly, in June 2015, when the family got word from federal authorities: Palomera had been captured outside his tiny hometown of Tomatlán, Mexico, near the Pacific Ocean.

Members of the policia federal leaped from a moving pickup truck and grabbed Palomera with such forceful efficiency that his family thought he was being kidnapped by a rival cartel.

U.S. authorities began to close in on Palomera days before Oscar’s disappearance. Undercover agents contacted him through Facebook about buying a few ounces of meth.

In response, Palomera sent a picture of a 50-gallon drum full of crystal meth, “very good, no cut no s---.”

After receiving an $800 wire transfer, Palomera told Lucas to meet agents in south Tacoma. Once authorities arrested Lucas, they got a warrant to look through his phone, connecting him to others in Palomera’s crew, to Palomera, to the threats Palomera made against Oscar. 

“That’s how we found out about Oscar, LAPD investigating it as a homicide,” veteran ATF agent Ben Hunt said. “And we realized we have more than a dope conspiracy. We have a potential murder victim.”

Both Lucas and Danny pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine. In February 2016, Lucas was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison. Three months later, a federal judge gave Danny a 70-month federal sentence.

At least six other people connected to Palomera would all receive federal prison sentences.

Palomera was extradited to the U.S. in July 2016 to face a 17-count indictment. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute methamphetamines and being an alien in possession of a firearm, the latter from the 2011 investigation of Palomera’s alleged gun trafficking in Tacoma. 

"This is the rare drug cartel case where a cartel supervisor has been extradited from Mexico and will answer for his crimes in a United States court," prosecutors wrote in a sentencing memo. "Jesus Enrique Palomera was a cartel manager straight out of central casting: Resourceful, persistent and ruthless.”

Oscar’s family drove to Tacoma for the April 2019 sentencing hearing, half-expecting to see Oscar on the witness stand. Instead, they heard Palomera apologize for their loss and deny any involvement in Oscar’s death.

Palomera claimed the cartel forced him to sell drugs. But, as prosecutors and federal agents noted in court filings, “in the cartel world, managerial responsibility is a choice, not something that is forced upon people.”


In a letter to Judge Robert Bryan, Palomera said he wanted to “put behind” him the “bad choices” he made and start an exotic fruit export business once he was released from prison. 

Palomera was sentenced to 20 years and is serving his time in federal lockup in Anthony, Texas, 20 miles north of El Paso. 

He’s scheduled to be released in November 2032.

In an August phone interview from prison, Palomera objected to being named in this story and disputed the way prosecutors portrayed him in federal court filings.

"The thing is, I know I'm not that person," he said. "My family knows I'm not that person. … I don't really care what the prosecutor says."

After the sentencing hearing, prosecutors escorted Oscar’s family to a private room in the U.S. District Courthouse. Hunt and Ryan Kowalchuk, the federal agents who pursued Palomera for the last eight years, were there.

“We told them we did everything we could,” Hunt said, “and hoped they got some closure.”


In the living room at Roque and Carmen’s house, next to the fireplace and opposite the piano, is the altar she set up the day Oscar was reported missing.

Carmen decorated it with pictures of her first-born child, a figurine of Michelangelo’s famed Pietà sculpture — Mary holding Jesus’ body across her lap after his crucifixion — a Coke bottle with Oscar’s name printed on the label, a little statue of Disney’s dwarf Dopey with big ears like Oscar’s.

There’s a fake candle at the center that she keeps lit, even when they’re not home. It was a real one, but she worried an earthquake would knock it over and set the house on fire. 
This one serves its purpose just as well: To light Oscar’s way home.

It’s been more than 1,900 days and counting since Oscar’s family and friends last heard from him, each day not knowing exactly what happened when he disappeared, of trying to carry on without someone whose presence outsized his 6-foot, 3-inch frame. 

“We’re all dealing with it in our different ways and in our different stages,” Sandra said.

The family has not had Oscar legally pronounced dead. There’s been no funeral service, no grave to visit.

They’ve only just recently started talking about a memorial service, maybe around Oscar’s birthday in February. It would be simple, his sister Sonia said, a Mass at home, in the backyard.

“To celebrate his life and not just let everything go by year after year,” she said.

The idea is a contentious one for Carmen, who does not believe her son is dead. He could be in hiding, she said, or in Mexico, forced to work for the cartel until his debt is repaid.

And so, she still focuses her gaze on every person she sees walking down the street or riding a bicycle, hoping it’s Oscar. She still wakes up at 3 in the morning and walks past the altar to the window facing the backyard and checks to see if he’s out there. 

“I’m still hoping for him to come home,” she said.

The following is the working theory from federal authorities on Oscar’s fate. It's based on information from court records, including interviews with six witnesses who independently told authorities that Palomera had Oscar killed, as well as information ATF agent Ben Hunt learned during his investigation. No one has been charged with Oscar’s disappearance and death, and Palomera has denied responsibility.

Stripped naked to check for wires and staring at the barrel of a shotgun, Lucas Manglona stood in an auto body shop outside Tacoma and faced questions about what he told law enforcement after he was arrested for ferrying drugs through Northern California. 

Four pounds of meth had been confiscated and everyone in the car — Lucas, Oscar and Oscar’s girlfriend — had been released. To Palomera and his hired Tacoma gang, that could mean only one thing.

Someone snitched.

Lucas persuaded them he was not a rat. He had been solid under torture once before, and he had the scars to prove it.

Once, he was kidnapped by his uncle and another man. They tied him up and used a blowtorch to try to learn the location of a stash house Palomera used. It left him with burn marks on his back and shoulder.
But he didn’t talk.

That put the spotlight directly on Oscar and his girlfriend. 

Communicating via WhatsApp, an encrypted messaging app, Palomera messaged Oscar’s roommate, Danny Vazquez, on June 25, 2014. 

Palomera was convinced that Oscar or his girlfriend stole his meth.

He wanted to find Oscar’s girlfriend and “send people to pick her up” and take her to Mexico, he told Danny. Because, he said, he wasn’t going to lose money.

“She is hiding,” Danny replied.

Undeterred, Palomera asked where Oscar was.

“He has to answer for what he’s done,” he wrote. “We goin(g) to send some people over to his mom place.”

He messaged Danny the next day, June 26: “I got the people ready to shoot them.”

One day later, June 27, angry that Oscar hadn’t paid him for the lost shipment of meth, Palomera messaged Danny with another threat.

He said he had “the power” to send people to Oscar’s mom’s house to “make her pay.” But he was willing to wait an hour for Danny to talk to Oscar.

He swore on his kids’ blood that either Oscar or his mother would suffer if his orders weren’t followed. 

Thirty minutes later, Oscar showed up at Danny’s house. Danny urged Palomera to give Oscar a chance to pay him back, noting that Oscar had “good connections” and couldn’t repay Palomera if he was dead.

Palomera dispatched his men from Tacoma to meet Danny and Oscar at their house in LA. They questioned Oscar at gunpoint.

Again, Danny persuaded Palomera to spare Oscar, saying he would put Oscar to work selling a pound of drugs.

“I’ll make him do whatever it takes to make it right.”

Sometime later, no one knows exactly when, five of Palomera’s associates either saw or received a texted photo, they later told authorities.

It was of Oscar, tied to a chair. He looked badly beaten and close to death. His fingers and toes were cut off. He had a chest wound from what appeared to be a shotgun blast. 

One of the recipients told the others to delete the photograph, authorities said. In search warrants of 66 phones, the photo was never found.

Authorities suspect Mexican hitmen killed Oscar, dismembered him and deposited the pieces in dumpsters around LA. 

His remains, one of Palomera’s associates told investigators, will never be found                                               

nvestigative reporter Jonathan Bullington and photographer Alton Strupp traveled to eastern Los Angeles County to learn about a man suspected of having been brutally murdered on the orders of a CJNG “plaza boss.” Bullington interviewed the man’s family and federal agents, and reviewed hundreds of pages of federal court filings. Bullington has worked for the Courier Journal for four months, Strupp for seven years. 
Staff reporter Beth Warren contributed to this story.

89 comments:

  1. My fears are coming true, the US is turning into Mexico.

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    1. Not yet my son, choose to be a broken arrow, you will join them in prison.

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    2. It's been like Mexico since the 70s.

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    3. @6:25

      Mexico is predicted to top 30,000 thousand in homicides in 2019 by the end of December.

      Are you saying that the USA are the same?

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    4. Yes, I am saying they're the same.

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    5. Then you are detached from reality, since the USA have like a third of those homicides with a much bigger population

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  2. True killers. Tortured, killed, dismembered and never found. Professionals only.

    006 your a Disneyland character compared to these guys.

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  3. One of them or all made some kinda deal when they got ragged.all set free after being caught with 4 pounds?The US cops say he was a CJNG plaza jefe,its a wonder they didn say he was menchos right hand man who moved tons of meth,Oscar fucked up big time,moving the meth,driving a reported stolen car,his mothers?They were beggin for it,dude sending pictures of meth to covers actin as buyers?

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  4. All CJNG members should be housed in Black Dolphin prison or something comprable. Supermax in Colorado is too nice for these scumbags.

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  5. Guys like kike palomera make sicario 006 look like strawberry-shortcake.

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    1. Careful!! Sicario 006 has teamed up with English Zeta!!

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  6. Ive been following BB since 2007 and this year you have taken it to the next level. LONG LIVE BB AND VIVA MEXICO!

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    1. BB didn't exist in 2007 you liar, it started in 2009.

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  7. This story, and the other, at least 3 I've read, by following the link, are some of the best investigative journalism I have ever read about CJNG, from what appears to be a Louisiana local paper, from LA to Gulfport, Mississippi, it's fascinating. There is even a story about a near capture of Mencho in 2012, and his US based former girlfriend, 100 packs in a stash house, he personally sent.

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    1. Got a link? Really enjoyed this piece and would love to read those

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    2. MS state trooper almost took down El Mencho
      Jason Gazzo

      GC

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  8. Cjng only brave with guys who can't defend themselves ask their coward boss mencho if he did anything or retaliated against the ones who catch him no cause the USA is his daddy they already had him 3 years just wait he gone be crying like his coward son

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    1. I hope you feel better now

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    2. All Cartels are the same way. But I’ll say. Some old leaders were more honorable than the one we see nowadays.

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  9. Wow, good article on a sad situation. So terrible what families of people caught up in this stuff go through. He's 99.99% deceased.

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  10. Good story.

    Little to no sympathy for the Divorced, dead beat, pot head, who never grew up.

    Oscar steals from his mother, and chose to hang out with a meth addict he meets at a park, and then Brings him to his parents house.

    WTF? Kids are taught not to talk to strangers and this Oscar guy brings one home, and chooses to transport meth?

    *The Pot he smoked (and likely other drugs) made him stupider.

    I mean what 37 year old man steals his mom’s car?????

    With the low unemployment rate in 2014, along with trade schools in LA County, Union Jobs, Financial Aid for low income people (if he was selling Tacos, he likely would have qualified), and many other options, he could have gotten a better job; however most companies won’t hire drug users. I suspect Oscar was into other drugs.

    *Oscars ex-wife (like many women in America), probably Lived off the child support, while being with a new guy.

    Oscar’s parents. What kind of kids did you raise?

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    1. The drug use is a society issue. Not just parents. It begins with acceptance of potheads in our California culture, ghetto fab rap wannabe thugs, latino /chicano street lifestyle, hollywood movies, narco corrido blasting from radio stations.. so on and so on. Parents can only do so much for the chosen path of a child.. better dont have kids.

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    2. Oscar turned himself in. When the bad men showed up at his mother’s house. That guy Danny was no help in persuading the men when they came for Oscar. He was no help in anything because he lied to Oscar’s parents.

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    3. His daughter was now 18 and could have seen him anytime, he did not need to pay back to see her anymore. Thats where his story fell apart. Hang with trash, and bring them home ? Loser. meth heads - stay away kids and get a steady real job !

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    4. Queso, do you have any sympathy for your non existent logic skills?

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    5. Queso. Don’t accuse poverty for wrong choices. I have family members who are poor and the do hard work to live in peace.

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    6. @6:27
      Oscar’s Stupidity, and immaturity, led to poor choices.

      Having a kid at 19, with minimal education along with emotional immaturity, is not a good combination.

      *Nowhere do I mention poverty for wrong choices. I will say that most who are poor, desire to lift themselves out of poverty and will take on multiple jobs, to provide.

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    7. As harsh as Queso's comments are I have to agree. Certain things ppl just can't come back from. Crystal meth is definitely one of them...G.C.

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    8. You can't always blame the parents. We raised two great girls and then adopted a kid and raised him the same way. He's a teenager, and I can already tell he's going to struggle with lots of things the other two kids never even thought of. We don't teach him at home to be like that, but the kid's got his own mind made up about things already, much to our dismay. What can you do, though? We just do our best and try our hardest.

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  11. Are we meant to feel sorry for this guy? If you transport drugs you're just as guilty as anyone, esp meth which destroys communities.

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  12. DEA IS SUCH JOKE. 10 MILLION, THE AGENCY STEALS SO MUCH CASH. JUST THROWING MONEY AWAY

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  13. U.s.STAY OUT OF MEXICO, This is a Mexican problem Tump u can't solve it. When the Mexican people decided to take their country back they maybe in 5 years, next election.

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    1. @ 5:13 Huh? This happened in the USA. Didn't you even bother to read the story or just chose to make a stupid statement on your own?

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    2. The u.s is already in mexico menso. believe this if its gonna happen it will you and your communist pres wont be able to do anything. Your so called fuerzas especiales de mayo mencho or whoever else will meet some real bad hombres who have operated on 5 different continents and not just some pos pueblo wey

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    3. This happened in the USA.

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    4. @8:58... your a complete moron if you think this will happen ... the US is in fact operating in Mexico and guess what they are unarmed .. if they are armed it’s probably a small pistol that can be concealed for personal protection.. keep on dreaming buddy

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    5. In 2015 American biker gangs had a shootout in a Texas restaurant, 9 dead. Not a single biker charged with the deaths.

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    6. 513 you need to go back and read the article, it's almost like a movie, plots and turns, ya dig.
      Reading comp 101

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  14. WoW that’s a crazy story and a remainder of how easy anyone can fall on things like this.

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  15. Goes to show that these atrocities occur in the US. Nothing good comes from being involved with drugs or drug trafficking.
    It's sad however, how such a small price or of little worth can be imposed upon one's life.

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    1. 3 or 5 lbs or kilos is not pocket change bro. In Mexico people kill for a lot less then that.

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  16. Wow informative article Oscar was an easy target, needed money, trusted anyone he met. And at the end paid dearly, in US they do investigate, but in Mexico, very rarely.
    Mexico-Observer

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  17. It is close to becoming a failed State like Colombia was at height of Pablo Escobar's reign. US will never send troops to Mexico nor take over the Country. Scary thing is the Cartels are now taking control over the US.

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    1. Name one city the cartels have control of in the u.s.

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    2. The cartels control ENTIRE states in the US, all of the southern, western, and border states. Including Alaska.. Sinaloa has control of most of them including Oklahoma, Cali and so on. WAKE UP.

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    3. They work thru many local gangs. Chicago, Seattle, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, LA. Also the NE states with Heroin. Many towns in Virginia. CJNG in Oklahoma trafficking meth, now super meth.

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    4. 5:59 Cartels absolutely do not "control" a single state in the US. That is ridiculous. They might control most of the drug trafficking in certain states but that is entirely different than actually controlling a state. In Mexico they may in fact control entire states having the government and police force from the top down on their payroll. I guarantee you nothing like that is happening in the US. Not to say that certain individuals in the US haven't been bought, but it is not pervasive like in Mexico.

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    5. 1:55Pm
      There's video in YouTube by retired cops and drug enforcement agents describing in detail how cartels control entire cities including the local government and police agencies, and they do control entire states since at least the 90s. Wake up, you won't hear about this in the news.

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    6. Ok, but it's going in that direction. I live in a border state, and I know that they have infiltrated government and law enforcement. Chinese Mafia has done the same.

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    7. The do control entire states.

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    8. Tucson, Arizona.

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  18. Same old tired story: decided to poison people out of love for his family.
    Just a useless lazy flake who reaped what he sowed.

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  19. Incredibly sad. Sounds like a trusting soul who made just a few bad decisions to try to get into a better place to pay his child support. If that's true, whomever was holding off the kids' contact until he paid child support should feel guilty as hell, too.

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  20. They probably thought that guy was a cop, you can't be acting scared in situations like that..

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  21. Lets see how the cartels AR/AK compares to a hellfire missile. There would be no more 50 vehicle gay pride parades by cjng if drones were overhead waiting for them. Cjng would be vaporized.

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    1. Don’t hold your breath internet warrior .. this will never happen

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    2. Cjng stand no chance against u.s.

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    3. @10:10 bless the lord that you are faceless and anonymous here..

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  22. Great story. Among other things, I mostly felt bad for the family. I have personally known such good people with one or two "pendejos" who literally destroy the family and send them to unhappy consequences and even early graves.
    To me, Oscar, represents an evil cholla plant.... throwing out its espinas on innocents.
    So often, deviant kin (lascas, pendejos, idiotas, valen mierdas, etc.) who belong to criminal networks bring toxic rain on good people that soaks them all in hellish misery!

    One quick lightweight example: Familia X has gang member son sent to prison. Poor family gathers meager resources to visit son, 500 miles away. This whole trip was planned months ahead and much was sacrificed to pull off the trip. Some family members begged the mother and dad not to go because "he is a loser, etc". The old parents went anyway.
    After doing his time.... this POS went back into la Vida loca lifestyle worse than ever. Long story short, this POS ruined the lives of many in his family..... but, you know all this shit anyway. What else is new?
    I hope the Trump Administration does declare narco-cartels "terrorist" organizations because this will allow many technological and human resources tools to be applied.
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    1. Dont generalize, oscar seems like he just got sucked in with the wrong crowd. And in those circles $$ is not to be messed with. Even Daniel tried to reason with Chuy palomera. Daniel maybe saw the inexperience and good soul oscar had.

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  23. Si ya saben que el rio está ondo pa que se meten

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  24. Vacation house in baja and still went for it, not a good a decision ,

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  25. I remember the availability of jobs during the Obama years, and the Bush years. It was tough. If he could of held on until now he would have no problem finding a jobs. Even now a lot of people I know here in Mexico are crossing with tourist visa's and getting good paying jobs in the USA. The economy can make situations bad for many people, and anywhere. But he did have a choice, and it was a bad one. There are very poor people here in Mexico that do not resort to crime.

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  26. Shoulda robbed a bank. Odds were prob better. I've lost plenty of friends and family here in the US over the dope game. Never got any publicity like this.

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  27. CJNG starving over 4lbs of meth, CJNG are small time. Don’t believe all the hype and Halloween outfits (commando’s)....lol. These broke fools drove all the way from Washington to LA for 4lbs?

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    1. More like third party independents.. it’s a corporation like Coca Cola

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    2. Do tell us the credit terms your favorite DTO provides if you lose product, help spread the propaganda of their benevolent attitude to the lowly corner hustler!!

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    3. For real dude!! I get that somebody had to pay but come on, torturing a dude for an amount of drug that can’t even buy u a new car off the lot. I get that they gotta keep everyone in check but stories like would probably make recruiting harder and the ppl u do have would probably be more likely to turn on u out of fear that will be tortured for a price that barely buys a ten year old car smh. Poor dude didn’t deserve to be done like that

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    4. The cell head decided the fate of oscar he didnt want those 4lbs of ice to go unanswered for; doubt mencho gave the green light

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    5. Nope LA to Tacoma Washington.

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    6. Shit like this happens EVERY day in the U.S.A. but sad thing IS, it's the guy fault for TRYING to make easy 💰
      I had plenty of offers here in Arizona being home to cds drug warehouse.. Everyone that comes to phoenix from OTHER parts of U.S.A. can't believe the prices and how EASY it is to get drugs in AZ

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  28. There is NO WAY IN HELL ill ever need money THAT bad and ive been pretty damn broke!ill live under a bridge with a shopping cart first before id EVER get involved in anything like that and i can promise you that!

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  29. You can make a movie out of this article. This stuff is crazy

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  30. You see those “commando” outfits only in interrogation videos with a make up crew and a director in a dusty warehouse but never see them out in the field pinche perros lol

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  31. So all of this happened because of his mother who reported her car stolen.

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    1. Not really because of his mother. It was inevitable. The poor guy made some bad choices which escalated. The mom didn't know it would get him killed to report her car stolen; sounds like she just wanted it back and warned him that was the consequence. Might have happened before also and she was tired of it.

      I'm no criminal, but it seems like the first rule of thumb is to not do anything to tick someone off or call attention to yourself while you're transporting stuff like that. If you take a car, someone's going to go looking for their car. The mom probably does feel like crap, though.

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  32. It's Funny though... Eventually Stupidity...and lack of order will be the Fall of the Cartels in Mexico. This is All Rigged.... The U.S us just waiting for a Good enough Reason to Go in And take that country as well.... Just sit n watch the movie

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    1. Never going to happen. The us profits more the way things are. If they wanted to stop it they would do it in a heartbeat but they haven’t for a reason you need to read between the lines not everything is how it seems let’s critical think

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    2. North American Union
      The Amero will replace the Dollar.
      Canada,USA, Mexico one big happy country

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    3. 240 it's rigged lol, I can't stop laughing, the gastapo is coming.

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  33. I'm not saying this guy didn't make bad choices, because he did. However, a guy from Chihuahua got busted here 3 years ago and lost 70K in heroin that he was transporting. He's back in Chihuahua and at least from Facebook accounts, he looks like he's having a grand old time in life. Just got held and deported, and is still alive and well from the looks of it.

    It seems like 4K would be small change to such big players.

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    1. It depends who it is. Some traffickers back in the day would forgive their mules if jale fell as long as they showed paperwork that they got busted and did their time of course. Others are not so lenient they demand payback immediately. This guy worked for a tweaked organization the main guy had a bunch of smokers driving for him. Others have legit guys that don’t smoke it’s always different. At the end of the day many lives were forever changed for a measly 4K

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    2. 952, thanks. I had a hard time understanding the "justice" of that. Makes sense. Sad.

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    3. Imo its not about the money as much as it is about ego. I grew up with people like the head guy in the article. Lifetime drug dealers, alpha males with massive egos. When you mix drugs, especially meth, it turns those personality types into unhinged, rage filled "leaders". Theyre already borderline sociopaths and when you add a drug like meth that destroys all inhibitions and logical thinking you get these types of events like the article. Once you add meth to these people all common sense goes out the window. Killing a guy and bringing that much heat over 4lbs of meth? You dont last long in the game if you do stupid shit like that (in the us, canada at least)

      It's about the ego for these types. They can't have the information get out that someone owes them and they're letting it slide. The money is a bonus but the main component to these types of people is ego. Bragging about having someone killed in 2 hours, that's 100% ego.

      So again the money isnt the main thought on their mind when they make these decisions, its about saving face and ego.

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    4. 544 Thanks for the information, learn alot here in BB, a meth addicts mind goes down, reasoning skills 0, Glad I don't touch drugs.

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    5. 544, makes sense. Thanks for your input.

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  34. Really for 4 measly pounds? I would understand a whole shipment but really 4 lbs huh LOL retarded

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