Saturday, October 19, 2019

Oct 17, 2019: The Day CDS put the Mexican Government on its Knees

Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: Infobae
                                   Sinaloa is an avid example of narco-violence in Mexico.
It is not surprising that Sinaloa appears in the lists of the entities with the highest number of homicides in the country - 909 murders from January to August of 2019. In the case of the city of Culiacán , the situation is mostly discouraging.

On Thursday afternoon, Oct 16, 2019 the authorities of the Sinaloa capital experienced one of the most painful defeats in modern history, when they were overcome by hit men from the Sinaloa Cartel.

So surprising and so violent were the events that unfolded on Thursday in Culiacán, that MSM US media has been covering it, the usual European Sites ( BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, etc) and the New York Times characterized them as "Scenes from a Bad Netflix Show". 

The Washington Examiner headline: "The Cartel is in Charge Here"; Narcos Overpower Authorities in Massive Show of Force. The NYT also calls Thursday, Oct 16 "the most significant show of public brutality since the disappearance of "The 43" student teachers at Iguala. ( may I emphasize "public" )
       Culiacán lived one of the most infernal days after the arrest of Ovidio Guzmán, "El Ratón"

The confusion about what happened is total. In the first hours, the official version released by the Ministry of Citizen Security and Protection detailed that, while thirty members of the National Guard conducted a routine patrol in the Tres Ríos area, they were attacked from a home.

Although the gunmen overcame them in armament, the agents repelled the attack and took control of the property, where there were four people, including the son of Chapo Guzmán and alleged operator of the Sinaloa Cartel, Ovidio Guzmán, aka “El Ratón”.

It was then that several groups surrounded the house and carried out violent actions against the citizens to avoid their detention.

Although a photo allegedly of Guzmán's arrest began to circulate, the head of the agency, Alfonso Durazo, said he agreed to release the alleged hitman to avoid damage to the population of Culiacán, which has 800,000 inhabitants.

The different areas of the attack in Culiacán, Sinaloa (Infographic: Infobae)

The false positives in Culiacán:
24 hours after the attack, Durazo explained that when he arrived at the battlefield he learned about the situation. In a press conference, the head said that the arrest had not been carried out after a patrol in the area, but was an operation "precipitated" by elements of the Ministerial Police, which had a search warrant to a home from the Tres Ríos area, and where Ovidio Guzmán was located.

"In an effort to obtain positive results, (the Ministerial Police) acted in a precipitous manner with poor planning, as well as lack of foresight about the possible consequences," said National Defense Secretary Luis Cresencio Sandoval.

After the arrest of the capo, alleged members of the Sinaloa Cartel responded with aggressions and a crossfire, with civil society as the main victim who experienced moments to hours of panic.

Upon noticing the high rate of widespread violence that occurred, the security cabinet decided to end the operation, which resulted in the death of a civilian, an element of the National Guard, an inmate of Aguaruto and 5 aggressors.

“The group did not anticipate what would happen. He rushed, did not plan the risks or the withdrawal with the target,” insisted General Cresencio Sandoval.

There was confusion in the information disclosed by the SSP (Infocómic: Infobae, Jovani Silva)

The president of Mexico, Andrés Manuel López Obrador , justified the release of Ovidio Guzmán López, son of “El Chapo” Guzmán, after being captured on Thursday in Culiacán, Sinaloa.

“ They made decisions that I endorse, that I support, because the situation became very difficult and many citizens, many people, many human beings were at risk and it was decided to protect people's lives and I agreed with that, because it's about massacres. The capture of a criminal cannot be worth more than the life of the people, " he said from Oaxaca after the Security Cabinet's decision to release the Chapito after the shootings unleashed by gunmen in the city.

127 comments:

  1. The Mexican government will have to literally go to war with the state of Sinaloa to weaken CDS since the cartel permeates so much of the society and business there.

    Hundreds will have to die..

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    1. Even then, NOTHING will change.

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    2. Nothing will happen. Too much money are coming from Sinaloa for politicians...

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    3. The cartels will flourish as long as they know the government starting at the very top is weak.

      As long as Mexico keeps doing the same they will keep experiencing the same.

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  2. I have a VERY hard time believing the shooting was initiated by the people from this "house" i mean if i were a narco in hiding the last thing i want to do is alert the authorities of my location...seems to me the government is just wiping their hands clean

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    1. Yes that seems made up since they did not have a search warrant and it is known already the Chapito Ivan was at La Fiscalia to "talk" about certain things and when walking out was arrested by Guachos. The government tryed to do this quickly but CDS responded quickly.

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    2. You have an excellent point. Why would I be in hiding. Or not looking to get caught. And I love my HIGH LIFE. With so much money, power, women, anything...... And then just decide to shoot at police/military personnel. That's just a bit off.

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    3. yup. i live n cln it all started la taqueria san juan en 3 rios

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    4. The narcos don't hide in Culiacan.

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    5. I've read some accounts of the scene that say US intelligence located him, and pressured their contacts in the Ministerial police to grab him. I'm sure the DEA or whichever US agency it was didn't care about the mess upcoming. Whomever it was, made a serious miscalculation of CDS pull in Culiacan.

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    6. Chivis, I can't find the article. May have been taken down, if incorrect. It was actually on the MSN home page on Sunday am. Can't find it now.

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  3. Speaking of the 43 students, this looks like it's going to be AMLO's Ayotzinapa. That was the point where public opinion turned against the Pena Nieto administration and he lost his status as Mexico's savior.

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    1. Many are still spellbound by his poetic charm to notice.
      This stain will opinions from many sides.

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    2. I knew it he has already forgotten the 43 kids. He a master BSer

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    3. 3:25 AMLO did not order anybody kidnapped and disappeared.
      This operation was a bounty hunter style operation by provocateur led by foreigners that know what they are doing, some of these operations have been done before, and AMLO. only had to bite and eat the hook, the line and the sinker to have himself, a Mexico at war, repeat, with me:
      "but, AMLO did not kidnap and disappear anybody"
      --he did not send orders to anybody to do it either, he is not your personal private pendejo, and this shit will be investigated to the last consequences, count on some criminals trying to make it a classified secret of state to save some Coppel ass.

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    4. So True......and Ayotzinapa.
      That is why BB exists.......
      Many Thanks to Buggs !

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  4. The title of the article s bull crap...

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    1. Well they did...what other title would you want in this article?

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    2. Haha you want a tissue ?

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  5. El Ratón es hijo de la RATA..... AKA.. chapulín..

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    1. 3:31 why do sour bud.. u must be one of those mencho nutthuggers..

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    2. Sóbate loco

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    3. 3:31 of course Mr Sanababaich, great philosophy,
      nothing to blame but your mom in your case.

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  6. This is not the most brutal day like the NYT says. It wasnt an all out war it was a show of force and the goverments decision to not sacrifice its troops and citizens wasnt wrong, the USA made a deal during WW2 and let go of gangster Lucky Luciano out of prison and with that, not sacrificing its troops and citizens. Same scenario, look it up...facts

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    1. Lucky Luciano actually helped the U.S win the war with the help of the Italian mafias. The biggest failure to ever happen is when the D.E.A and F.B.I had the Orlando shooter in their sight and knew his connection to ISIS but not once apprehended him before he shot up the club . but yet are in mexico trying to capture drug barons with billions of dollars that the U.S can win . that's what the U.S really wants is the MONEY so by taking the son extraditing him and use him to make chapo cough up that money they want . U.S government will do whatever it takes to get that money because they know it all traces back to U.S corruption

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    2. This is two different situations, lucky luciano was needed because he had a good criminal structure and a GREAT lawyer that found a way for his boss to get released. (Without a shot being fired) HUGE DIFERENCE

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    3. Lucky Luciano didn't threaten to kill people if he wasn't released nor did the mafia get up to the kind of shit that the cartels do. It wasn't the same kind of situation at all.

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    4. Well, then you bought the government spin on the situation, to make them look good in a completely botched operation. The Luciano situation was different. Luciano wasn't physically wrested from the US government by superior force.

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    5. The usa actually has a military that WON WW II cabron...

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    6. The world was at war moron, the U.S. needed to make sacrifices to keep the war winning on their side, The Mafia is not the cartels moron, the mafia keeps a low profile and does not hold entire cities and states hostage, the Mafia is terrify of the FBI, the Mexican Cartels are not scared of any law enforcement government in Mexico.

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    7. Mafia until Dumbass Gotti stayed below the radar.

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    8. 3:40 PM The US was just taking territory that is all WW2 was all about taking territory and placing military bases in Europe. WW1 was about containing the Germans destroying the Ottoman and the Russian Empire. Ensuring that the US and British were the only world powers.

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    9. I love coming to borderland beat, cause you always run into these experts on here. That keep you well informed lol

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    10. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it - George Washington

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    11. @3:50.....I completely agree. This was an attempt to extort Chapo to giving up his money. They failed. Since the gloves are now off, and he has nothing left to lose, I hope Chapo starts giving up Gov officials on both sides. He kept quiet to protect his family and partners. Since, that was betrayed, and after being ambushed in his trial, I'd start bringing down the real "Boss's" JMO

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    12. Please don't compare those dumb kids to lucky luciano, those kids have a long way to go and at this rate they will not last long

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  7. WORD IN SINALOA Is that mayo and chapitos are fighting for control of the cartel, the chapos will fall soon.. Just watch and see

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    1. Lol where’s El Negro? He’s another leader . Wouldn’t he be fighting, mr bullshitter

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    2. I said it before and i'll say it again. That's BS. 100% Mayo was involved in the rescue of Ovidio, no doubt about it.

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    3. 1047 is right
      Well people on fb are saying chapo isidro sent Hitman to help out!

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    4. También dicen en FB que Navolato mando.....NM

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  8. cjng could never dream of releasing menchito like this...they hog tied menchito in the cjng hornets nest Zappopan and nobody came to his rescue whatsoever lmao. This shows who really has the power in Mexico. Chapo is in a concrete box and still has thousands of gunmen at his families disposal.

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    1. Its like saying why didnt anybody came to rescue chapo, but when mencho was caught all hell broke loose in jalisco and when i say jalisco i mean jalisco not just one city in jalisco, and later mencho was released now tell me who has shown more power?

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  9. The headline for this story is a bit dramatic, I mean come on did they really put the government on its knees? IIIIIIIIII dont really think so.....

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    1. It's an anology, phrases said when the actual athority lost the fight to a lawful situation.

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  10. Yet most of the world is still unaware of the events in Allende in 2011

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    1. Yes, and Ayotzinapa and all the rest of it.
      Sadly........

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    2. People are aware but we are part of the whole scope of things...its the same thing as always... a world cup or tv series or novela will come our way and it will All Be put aside

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    3. Hopefully this event will bring more light on what is really going on in Mexico. Most Americans think you're delusional, when you tell them of the tragedies that occur in Mexico daily.

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  11. Ps. It wasnt an all out war, i seen videos of marinos and theyre families pleading for their lives and all these tweaked out caned out sicarietes maltratandolos...it wasnt war it was a #narcoberrinche

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  12. I’m waiting for the movie!
    It can be called “Cartel tiene huevos”
    The head Clown, AMLO can play himself’

    Queso

    Queso

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    1. Are you a US LEO or govt official? You bash the actions AMLO took, does he risk the lives of innocents to not be labeled a coward, clown, incompetent etcetera? 230 "elite troops" arrived, the results will speak for themselves.

      IPA

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  13. We all have to come together and understand the misfortunes of others and what it takes for prosperity no matter how difficult the situation is. Lets all be friends and walk the path hand in hand. Peace

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  14. So cjng was also in culican that day?why is that?

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    1. No they weren't , they know better. They get away with there BS in other cities and states. But not there

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  15. Esto no se trata de drogas. Se trata de jóvenes pachucos que no son parte de ningún grupo narcocista, pero que extienden la mano y exigen piso porque pueden protegerme a mí y a mi muy pobrecito huerto. Mi yerno me escuchó y no puso ladrillos y adoquines caros afuera, sino que lo invirtió todo adentro. La puerta se abre a un pasillo que tiene una pintura de la playa de mi nieta mayor. Quieren autos nuevos. Cuando conduzco a Lázaro, cada vez que encuentro un aviso impreso debajo de un limpiaparabrisas. pagamos el mejor dinero por chatarra. Nos obligan a aparecer como vagos para no ser robados. Doble filas de la luz para el mediador es una señal de dinero, por lo que ambas casitas tienen un solo servicio de fila de 127 voltios y 30 amperios. Esta es la única defensa que conocemos. Estoy casi sordo, cuando golpean mi puerta, la abro, miro a la gente y entornan los ojos y le pregunto a Rodrigo. Miran mis viejos pantalones y mi camisa manchada, luego doblan sus labios hacia atrás y dicen: Vuelve a dormir, viejo. Este es el futuro de mi amado México. Pretende estar por debajo de cualquier valor. Gracias a dios, nuestra playa no es empinada y no se puede lanzar una lancha cargada incluso con seis personas.

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    1. Seńor, sus palabras son la verdad, que tristemente.
      Mis amigos/ familiares viven en la misma realidad.
      Nada nuevo, viajes por el pueblo solamente en el día....
      Las mujeres siempre en grupos o con sus esposos.
      Casi nada peso en sus bolsillos.

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  16. This isn’t over. It’s just getting started. Cut off the city and clean it up.

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  17. Moral among soldiers and police got to be low. They need to take Amlo. Nothing's changed in Matamores. At the bridge u still pay morida.they even gone up.

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  18. This is what happens when you aren’t allowed to have guns to defend yourself the government has to let criminals free.

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    1. Amlo is part of the cartel

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    2. Wtf are you talking about, the gunmen for the cartel are the citizens lol

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  19. I don’t think this should be celebrated by CDS. Showed how vulnerable they are. Plus I believe CJNG and the Mexican government seem to have a pact. Wouldn’t doubt army being sent in and pounding them till they begin to fight them selfs. And destroy the relationship between CDS and Armed forces , federal , state and local police.

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    1. Vulnerable? Da f**k you talking about? The government set Ovidio free after he had been captured. That never happened before with a drug lord. CDS showed Thursday how powerful they are. CJNG having a pact with the government?? Dude, 70-80% of the GN was sent in to the CJNG strongholds.

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    2. I was thinking the same with CJNG and mex govt. this really benefits Mencho because all the heat will now be shifted due to the blatant dick slap by CDS. No doubt US officials will want him just down the hall from dad more than ever

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    3. @2:23
      The fuck are you talking about was he arrested or not ? Yea that means he was vulnerable. That the government back off is one thing. But he did get caught and that shows weakness.

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    4. All scores will be settled with the next poker night.

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    5. 2:23 in the audios the sicarios are talking about when Mencho got captured and his people shut down and caused choas in GDL and a majority of Jalisco. Never before, jaja 6:08 jaja blatant dick slap. 9:25 it's never over, 230 says there will be a run back. Culiacán civilians are concerned, don't try to record events a stray slug may say hello.

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    6. @2:23 how powerful they are? More like cowards. They didn’t fight the military 1 on 1. They had military family members as hostages. Tu que hicieras si secuestraran a tu p madre? Bajaras la arma no?

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  20. Cuál es la causa de tanta demanda de droga en usa? Porque tienen que estar tan presionados por el dinero? Eso los lleva a buscar felicidad en otros planos y desarrollan adicciones provocando un bienestar falso que de vuelve más doloroso al regresar y ahora necesitaran una dosis mayor has a que sucumbe se resistencia física ..

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    1. Muy cierto pero hay muchas razones por el abuso de substancias pero muy correcto que esta es una muy comun

      - Guanatos

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  21. Will see when they bring in the whole military next week

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  22. The real problem is that when it comes down to it cartels no matter which one it is, they will kill innocent people in order to manipulate the government actions, they know that is the only way they would win in an all out war. Remember they are criminals that only care about money not the regular citizens. The people of Mexico are not ready for the type of collateral victims an all out attack against cartels will bring and at the end of the day they will call the president a murderer for those collateral deaths and a traitor if he looks out for civilians.

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    1. Interesting to hear the kettle call the other Black. Both government & cartels are why Mexico is what it is today.

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    2. @ 834 PM Good point. Cartels will kill innocents if they feel they have to and it is probably one of the reasons the government is so hesitant to truly take them on.

      The cartels have managed to entrench themselves so much into Mexican society especially its economy. Taking them on is almost like taking on the Mexico itself. Sad...

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  23. We have lived in small towns in Mexico for many decades full time (we are not Mexican citizens) and we have many Mexican friends in many different communities. We want to report to all readers that yes things have changed and for the worst. When we go to meetings now after this Sinaloa matter occurred, we hear many reports of "bad boys" gangs roaming more freely than ever. We have seen many in passing (we are somewhat stealth in our car so have some degree of observational capability) coming out at dusk with their guns and trucks emblazoned with the logos of a main cartel. They seem to operate now much more openly (during early and mid mornings too) as if they have now complete control--gangs 'walking' the streets too--a license to operate in the open freely as never before. Don't know if the government is on its knees, maybe so, perhaps not, but we can certainly report that many ordinary Mexicans are fearing moreso than before. We are reporting that the hundreds of Mexican citizens we know of through our large organization are now more with a hefty and active caution for the safety of their families. There is no denying our real-time observations here in north Mexico far away from Sinaloa. What it all means is open to some interpretation surely.

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    1. Here in Tamps. Same thing. Lived most my life, since the President came into power things changed, they know they Roam free. I don't understand things we're getting better. Be careful I came back to US. Sad I love Mexico .

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    2. Lol I like all the bulls hitters on here.

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    3. Yes, sadly this is what I have observed over decades myself.
      I have watched generations grow up into a world so different and
      experienced the growing pains of the parents, abuelos, everyone groping for solutions for the simplest things in their lives, such as schooling their children.
      Everyone is living in fear, if not in the moment , but there is a dark cloud always hovering over or a shadow behind. Caution has to be foremost in their minds at all times.
      Sadly, it is not just cartel presence, but the robberies etc by drug addicts, etc.
      something one would never see , except in big cities. Now it’s everywhere.

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    4. Things were getting better?
      Under who peńa Nieto?
      Common get real.

      What about the 43 missing students?
      The countless massacres in the last term?
      49 headless body’s dumped in NL?


      And things were getting better?
      Like I said BB likes creating controversy for its minios to thrive of off.

      And y’all wanna stone AMLO a year into his term?
      Y’all are clueless Fucken morons.

      Monkey see monkey doo ass motherfuckers.

      Criminals have always been around wtf are you talking about “something you would never see”?
      Kidnapping, rapping robbery’s extortion murder has always been even before AMLO you fucken sissys don’t know what to blame him for no more.

      Some shit you just do see cause it gets sweapt under the rug, for instance past presidents actually negotiating with cartels.

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    5. Its globally Yaqui

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    6. Mexico needs help from someone cause they cant take care of there own security. The terrorists will see this weakness and be in there soon, if not already. Needs a complete government change and someone to oversee it. This place will turn into Libya if they are not careful

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    7. Interesting information that you've posted, 9:13. Thank you for your insights.

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    8. @10:18 Amen.

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  24. Houston Astros going to the World Series!!!

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  25. Why can't the army invade Jalisco or Michoacan and take out CJNG?

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    1. This isn't a conflict where soldiers fight on an open battlefield. Many organizations are integrated with the communities they operate in and storming towns just to see who tries to fight back is a limited strategy. Mexico's a big place, and widespread poverty means that the biggest cartels don't have much problem replacing cannon fodder.

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    2. Este buey, hacen su desmadre y amenazan con matar a inocentes y ahora se les frunce el culo. Atorenle plebada!!

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    3. When they came to look for only one man, Pancho Villa, the only thing they did was ridicule.

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  26. Some of my family in Los Mochis told my that Chapo Isidro’s people helped with the massive convoy to free the Guzman boy. I have a hard time believing this as I thought BLO & CDS were enemies since the split. Can anyone confirm if Isidro’s people really did assist the other day? If they did does that mean that BLO & CDS now have a truce in Sinaloa?

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    1. Why do you even ask? Most of these lames know nothing.
      Isidro is with the Chapitos right now.
      BLO and CDS always have a truce, but they find a way to break it every once in awhile

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    2. Not just mochis but el fuerte, there's a video of sicarios coming to a restaurant telling people to leave and things are going to get ugly and also hear them say people from mochis el fuerte coming im guessing for support seems like Sinaloa is united

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    3. There's rumors that mayo and chapos are fighting each other for control of the cartel.. Something is off with these guys they will soon get caught AGAIN and not get released

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    4. @1139am. Those are lies. There is two way radio conversations on IG that say the contrary of that day and how everyone jumped for each other

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    5. No creo,que tengan tregua es una cosa pero que gana Isidro?

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  27. WW dos and a nother day in CULIACAN are dos different things amigo..

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    1. What's the difference . Let go of one criminal to spare the lives of troops and citizens

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  28. And Mexico wonders why it has become the laughing stock of the international community.

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  29. You know lucky was born in 1897 rite???

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  30. this is a cancer that went untreated for to long,nothing was done about it when it began to spread, and at this time its probably incurable. past presidents had it easier then the next one but decided to collude with the cartels. now its AMLO'S turn to try and do what others couldnt. the only advantage CDS has over the mexican military is that they dont care who has to die. the government dont want to fight an urban warfare, doing so will only cost the lost of innocent lives, 100's of them. we see it in afganistan, you cant distinguish who's friend or foe, not an easy war to win. what has the U.S. and nato forces accomplished in the past 18 years? AMLO might be right, saturate the city with the national guard and suffocate the cartels.

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    1. Someone that's done some reasearch

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  31. Did inread that right says cjng was helping

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  32. Who runs imala my wifes family is from el pozo

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  33. what a WEAK ASS GOVERNMENT, what a WEAK ASS COUNTRY, first time in my life to be SHAME to be a mexican, MEXICO IT'S FULL OF MEXICANT'S please post it

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    1. When bribe money comes in, yes they will be weak.

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    2. Looks like they did take over the city. Boys do what they can MEN do what they want

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    3. I’d like to see how WEAK you become when they have the barrel of a gun in your mothers mouth and a knife to your child’s throat .. think before you speak keyboard warrior .. it’s all easy and nice when you hide in the comfort of your American home behind a computer monitor .. gtfoh

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  34. Mexican President: I support, because the situation became very difficult and many citizens, many people, many human beings were at risk.
    And now every cartel knows, that the lives of the military,police and civilians can always be bargain for, with the cartels, this is what terrorist do and you can bet, the other cartels will learn how to do this, to put the Mexican government on it's knees, this is pure terrorism, and any real leader would absolutely not negotiate with theies type of terrorist threats, let them execute 100's of people so the people will turn on the cartel, now the Mexican people knows to go to the cartels for help instead of the government.

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    1. Cartel Won and r in charge of Mexico with election of their man amlo.

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    2. You support the president that does minimal to curb the high homicide rate. He is busy with poems and jokes, he should be called the joker.

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  35. how is it that the cartel mobilized a huge amount of sicarios and display such a strong force for someone who wasnt known as an important person in the cartel, someone who wouldnt even cross in the majority of people's mind if you wouldve ask about sinaloas leaders or even ask about chapos sons.

    but they didnt do anything like that when chapo, the most loved, respected, and most powerful leader in its time.

    I guess Ovidio is actually pretty smart, his show of force tells us he was very underestimated.

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    1. Ovidio moves a lot of weight, the same with El Negro son of El Azul.
      They are just low key right now

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    2. They are so low key they got caught? Lol makes sense right (sarcasm)

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  36. "El Gato y El Raton" is my favorite corrido

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  37. Amlos government released Ovidio to prevent people getting killed,well only 8 got killed out of those 8 only 1 was a civilian, and 1 NG, but the majority the other 6 where Sicarios, so whose lives are they trying to protect if its government vs sicarios? well obiously sicarios lives, yes stray bullets do kill but the count is lower than the sicarios, and if the fight woukdve continued yes more cops couldve died but also many many many more sicarios, whats the problem with dead sicarios???? people that praise the government's decision, why do you think its the government who needs to lay down the arms, why not the sicarios? it was the sicarios stealing cars, burning cars that belonged to innocent people, why not demand for them to step down. what seemed to have saves lives today will cost many more tomorrow, watch when other guys get caught, their people will try the same thing. As long as AMLO is in office, i bet no high priority targets will be captured

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  38. Great Job MEXICAN President in keep your word last year to get rid of cartels.....What a coward for commander chief. MEXICO IS OFFICIALLY LAWLESS.

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    1. He never promised to fight cartels, fire with fire.
      Didn’t work with Calderon neither with peńa nieto.
      Why would AMLO use a failed strategy?


      ~Fucken morón.

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    2. 529 is has been lawless more than 3 years, where have you been hiding, your new to BB welcome.

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  39. I dont care if the Cartel held a Kindergarten as hostage, you dont negotiate with Terrorist.

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    1. America's have with the Taliban in Afghanistan!
      Let's no be hypocrites and call it as it is.

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    2. Yeah "tuff" internet guy, when it's your own I'm sure you will demand and say the same thing.

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    3. Yea until it’s your kids in that kindergarten, imbecile

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  40. This is the tipping point of social government in Mexico. All the arguments Amlo made are very true BUT he has now created a precedent whereby each cartel faction will employ these same tactics. Who could blame them? It worked! Just the optics alone of this situation don't bode well for the Federal Gov't. I personally believe a supremely heavy handed and properly planned response is required. Not to just save face but more importantly to illustrate the purpose of government. Those who argue that people will die unnecessarily might want to recall the hundreds of thousands that have already died unnecessarily from Cartel violence! Many of whom were nothing more than innocent bystanders.

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    1. Point well taken, you had a deserter that left the Army, to join the Cartel, he know how to send men, to enter the base and hold families hostage, security officers hostage, if ALMO did let it go, there would have been a lot of blood shed, and if that did happen, military would also have to kill Gusmans son.

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