Friday, October 18, 2019

Mexican President AMLO approved the release of El Chapo's son

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat Reforma

"I agreed with that because it is not about massacres, it cannot be greater worth for the capture of a criminal than the lives of people."….AMLO




AMLO said to his detractors who called him weak: Who uses force has no moral authority. "

President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said he agreed to release Ovidio Guzmán, son of "El Chapo" after attacks of organized crime yesterday in Culiacán, Sinaloa.

"The Secretary of Defense, Marina, Seguridad, concentrated, met and followed up on the problem and made decisions that I support, which I endorse because the situation became very difficult and many citizens, many people were at risk," He indicated during a conference in Oaxaca.

"I agreed with that because it is not about massacres, it cannot be greater worth for the capture of a criminal than the lives of people."

The President commented that the decision was taken to protect the lives of citizens.


"You can't put out the fire with the fire, this is the difference of this strategy with those made by the previous governments, we don't want dead, we don't want war, this is hard for many to understand, but the strategy that I was applying turned the country into a cemetery, "he said.

Contrary to what was said by the Secretary of Security, Alfonso Durazo, President López Obrador said it was an Army operation to complete an arrest warrant.

Durazo yesterday reported that in a patrol they shot a convoy of federal forces, repelled the aggression and went after assailants to a home where they found the son of Chapo.

"The decision was made by the security cabinet jointly, collegially, I supported this position because I believe that the most important thing is the protection of people, who have not died," said the President.

López Obrador assured that it will cost work for the decision to be understood by the people and the adversaries to their Government.

"Little by little, the facts are going to show that this is the best route. It has also been proven, it was a resounding failure, but not only that, that policy, authoritarian of the reason of State caused thousands of deaths. We do not want war, but well, they are visions, points of view, "he insisted.

On Thursday, members of the National Guard handed over members of the Sinaloa Cartel to Ovidio Guzmán López, one of the sons of Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, after having stopped him casually in an operation.


The arrest of Ovid in a house of the Tres Ríos subdivision in the Sinaloa capital unleashed an unusual offensive by the Sinaloa Cartel, whose members took the city and unleashed terror on its streets, blocked roads, set cars and trucks on fire, released 27 inmates and they surrounded the site where the leader was detained to rescue him.


AMLO said to his detractors who called him weak:


"No (the narco is strengthened), how are they going to be strengthened, why are they strengthened? It is a special circumstance that arises, how are these processes? They are all at once and ultimately they are annihilating, that is the mentality authoritarian, that is to say sweeping, that does not give results nor is it human, how is it going to strengthen an organization that uses violence? Who uses force has no moral authority. "

U.S. Grand Jury Indictment Unsealed in February of this year


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    1. Second That !
      Yaqui

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    2. CNN is reporting the continuous incompetence of Mexico's government. Where criminals rule and dictate.
      Great job u idiot (AMLO).
      You senile piece of shit.

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    3. CNN-ha,ha,ha. Change the channel.

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    4. And----where was CNN for the last decade? lightweight narco reporting. Americans are clueless because of useless media like these clowns---and then they complaint---self righteous

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    5. Very good point Chivis 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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    6. Agreed!! And I am an American who lived in Mexico...

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    7. Dont forget Fox too. Brainwashing material

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    8. As if cutting & pasting is real reporting. Your information is by those same media outlets

      Far from journalism here. More like entertainment

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    9. Chivis if I may ask what is your opinion about ALMO after this? I am now worried that someone like Mencho will not be willing to kill thousands of civilians with a WMD to ensure his release of captured.

      Do you think this will now become a Trend when a capo gets caught?

      Any word on it El Mayo organized this? I know the sons have power but to get all those sicarios to work together so fast I think only El Mayo could pull that off

      Cheers

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    10. I have always supported waiting and let him prove himself. I thought it was unfair to rush to judgement.

      Forget that, today i think he is either dangerously incompetent or on the payroll

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    11. fox has done a decent job reporting on mexico and on fox nation. but it still is inadequate

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    12. 10:35 pues---you caught me....jeeze I guess now you can take over and find out how easy it is to post. email me---I already have your name

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    13. I have seen people note that atrocities in Mexico don't get the same kind of media attention that atrocities in the Middle East do.

      On the one hand, more focus on them would probably increase prejudices against Mexicans. On the other, maybe it would motivate the government to do more to address the problems.

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    14. Politicians love talking tough because they are usually untouchable. During the Medellin Cartel drug war against the Colombian government in the 1980s-90s is the only time that politicians had to deal with the consequences of their decisions. Their families, and their own lives were actually at stake during that war and it showed just how hypocritical ad cowardly politicians really are. They are ok when their decisions cost the lives of their citizens, but when their lives are on the line they usually don't act and talk so negligently.

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    15. Chivas,
      How many lives of men, women, and children are worth the arrest of one of El Chapo's sons? Would you give the life of one of your family members for the arrest of a drug dealer? If not, then why should you expect the people of Culiacan to do something you are not willing to do?

      A cost benefit analysis should be done in this situation. Was the cost in lives of citizens, LE, plus the destruction of property worth the arrest of Chapo's son? What benefit was to be gained from the arrest compared to the costs. I argue the only benefits to be gained was politically. The Mexican government makes the US government happy by such an arrest. As the facts have shown arrests of high profile drug dealers show no real benefit gained by the public. It causes more death and more criminal groups to emerge and there is 0 reduction in drug flow to the US from such arrests.

      Did AMLO do the right thing? Yes he did. There was no reason to die on that hill so to speak. I am sure the sons of El Chapo will give the government many more opportunities to arrest or kill them in the near future.

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    16. Chivis, so glad to see you back!

      1035, go suck on a lemon.

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    17. 6:36

      I'd be more open to supporting AMLO's decision if I believe that his administration was going to do anything to undermine the Sinaloa Cartel's power. As it is, he basically treats the cartels like they're naughty children instead of threats to the safety and authority of Mexico.

      You're also incorrect about the benefits of arrests. A country can't ignore its greatest criminals. As violent as criminal organizations are, most of the ones operating in Mexico don't have the same power to corrupt the state that they used to. The Sinaloa Cartel is one exception, in part because several important leaders are still free. Part of the problem in the past is that the governments have made capturing the leaders of criminal organizations the cornerstone of their security policy, and haven't focused enough on reforming the police or reducing the social issues that lead to crime.

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  2. Y arriba mi Sinaloa plebes...si Senior Guzmán...

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  3. Culiacan esta blindada cabrones

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  4. What a disgrace. The country already is a cemetery for crying out loud. Where are your huevo's Obrador? Forget the failed state, this is a failed country with no end to this nonsense.

    Might as well hold a special election to elect one of these Narco's as president if this is how the government is going to react.

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    1. Funy! You mentioned: the country already is a graveyard, but at the same time you wanted the army to strike with full force in an urban area full of civilians.
      In any hostage situation is imperative to de-escalate violence to prevent unnecessary loss of life. In this case inocent people

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    2. 10:45 Wrong. This isn't a hostage situation. Criminals wouldn't be able to do this kind of thing if the government hadn't let them grow so powerful to begin with. You're missing the forest for the trees.

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  5. Letting cartels do what they want is how Mexico got so bad to begin with. It seems like AMLO's preferred way of handling problems is to ignore them.

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    1. Agree.
      Poor Mexican citizens of good humbleness are suffering again.

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  6. Mexico is done.. at this point why even have politicians. Let the narcos keep running the shit country.

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    1. Thank you for calling an entire country “shit” based on the actions of corrupt politicians

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    2. Mexico probably is more beautiful than your country lmfao. Don't call it a shit country because of crime, the normal people of Mexico are very good and its culture is very vast.

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    3. Who elects those corrupt politicians?

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    4. every country has been through corruption at some point in their history including the USA. it took america 100 years to get rid of the Mafia

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    5. 4:08 PM

      Mafia never had that kind of power, neither in America nor in Europe

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  7. The DEA fucked this up

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    1. The DEA had nothing to do with this. Stop believing in idiotic conspiracy theories.

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    2. I wouldn’t doubt if we were somehow involved and the powers that be let it fail.

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    3. The dea may have been involved as far as information.if they had boots on the ground he woulda prolly been taken out of cuilican soon as they cought him

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  8. And yet by “not wanting more war”, more war is being generated on Mexican soil. Future military coup?

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    1. This may be a surprise to AMLO, but to arrest criminals, you generally have to confront criminals. You don't see this type of stuff in a lot of other countries because the criminals know that they'll be captured and convicted if they try to shoot it out with the police. There's not a nice and easy solution to Mexico's problems, and people are going to die to get the criminals under control.

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    2. Your point exactly. Rule of law requires enforcement when necessary. Unfortunately, it appears the opposite. Where money and intimidation are the cause for much of Mexico's issues.

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    3. @8:10 The real reason why this happens in Mexico is because the "criminals" here are not common thugs afraid to "shoot it out" with police. Their monetary power allows them to have military grade weaponry here, plus being always under USA influence is another reason why there's a lot of turmoil. Other powerful mafias like the Russian, Chinese or Japanese don't show off like Mexicans because they don't have Gringos noses in their politics.

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    4. 2:59 Blaming the USA for the brazenness of Mexican criminal organizations is nonsensical.

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    5. @5:00 USA calls the shots in Mexico to keep it in mayhem amigo. They have done this with whole Latin American since the 50s.

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    6. 2:59 PM

      Even in Europe and the USA true criminals are not afraid to shoot it out with the police, they don’t do it because they know that they don’t have the kind of power to get away with it it they did. Simple. That’s why even the Mexican cartels have to keep a low profile in the States. Tell them to try and do in L.A what they did in Culiacán, and see what happens.

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    7. 6:54

      No, they don't. Take off the tinfoil hats and accept reality.

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    8. @3:49 I never said that criminals could or couldn't do shit in Europe or L.A. I said if it happens "here" (the keyword is "here" a.k.a. Mexico) is mainly because of the amount of weaponry that they got at disposal. A good counterpart example in Europe would be the 'Ndrangheta in my opinion and the old days of Sicilian Cosa Nostra, the days of Salvatore Riina when they bombed gobierno (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciaculli_bombing). The mafias have always fought with the government at a given point but the main idea is that those countries usually control their own politics, unfortunately having USA so close to us and in relation with a lot of our presidentes via "country clubs" makes it hard to keep Mexico peaceful. And of course cartels are not to massacre people in USA, cartels don't want to be classified as terrorists of course my friend, they just want to sell dope in America no point of doing that.

      USA is about distribution and Mexico is about production, there's a huge difference in the operations between both countries of course, in Mexico you got the owners of the business and the factories, of course they will guard those with RPGs and what not and fight the army to death, not cops, the army. Now, with that said, corruption in BOTH countries also explains a lot of why shit happens they way it does.

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  9. AMLO is an idiot, he had me fooled fora few months

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    1. Many were blindsided by his compassion for change. AMLO fails to realize the importance of enforcement to obtain such changes.
      Rather for monetary reasons like all others.

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  10. Stop trippen in the good side of things chapós son got released

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  11. Well come on now, the president frequently goes to visit chapo mom in badiraguato and even gave her a visa to go to New York. I wonder how much money the chapo paid him, AMLO IS OBVIOUSLY IN CDS PAYROLL

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    1. Your wrong about that he’s on cjng payroll they thought they were going to wash ther hands with Sinaloa for what cjng did with the 14 police killed in Michoacán.with this arrest people had something new to talk about and almo looks good and takes a rivial of mencho to jail plus gets payed come on mencho if you can’t even get Marro en Guanajuato or El gordo or Abuelo in Michoacán why the hell did you think the government you pay was going to get Los menores for you and in Culiacán

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    2. @10:09 Parece que usted sabe, es obvio que hay una pinche agenda detras de todo el rollo. AMLO desgraciadamente la esta continuando, CJNG son los nuevos Z.

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  12. N just like that they all forgot about the police men killed by cjng in Michoacan...no Marina no army no nothing to bring responsibles to jail...what a shame..

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  13. *******"About whether the State's weakness being demonstrated, that is more than anything a conjecture of the experts, especially of our adversaries, the conservatives will not be happy with anything and they will always be questioning us, we have no doubt that It was the best decision, "he said.

    "No (the narco is strengthened), how are they going to be strengthened, why are they strengthened? It is a special circumstance that arises, how are these processes? They are all at once and ultimately they are annihilating, that is the mentality authoritarian, that is to say sweeping, that does not give results nor is it human, how is it going to strengthen an organization that uses violence, who is not right, who uses force has no moral authority. "

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  14. Amlo even send them flowers and chocolate... no tienne huevos..RIP México

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  15. only the gov knows what threats the narcos made about killing innocent people, so don't be so easy to judge.

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    1. Of course they made threats to kill people. Killing people is what cartels do. All this does is send a message that the government can be intimidated. A reason why violence is so high in Mexico is because crooks know that they have a low chance of being captured and convicted.

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    2. Threats towards political powers have been displayed throughout Mexico for decades. Killings of many political figures and government officials are why Mexico has problems.

      IMO; catering to the money instead of serving its constituents are what matters to them.
      I truly believe cutting ties to Mexico altogether will make the necessary changes for humanity. I'm sure we can do without avocados.

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    3. @9:20. Agreed. And don't sweat it, California grows some damn good avos.

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    4. @10:25

      Look forward to California avocados.

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    5. @12:23 and 10:25 Besides Avos, I hope your junkies can do without cocaine, meth and heroin and that your government can keep their economy stable without the influx of drug cartel money coming from the chosen bad hombres that they let operate.

      Better do research on the truth behind the war on drugs on an economical standpoint.

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  16. Ese es mi compa el AMLO! Tranquis como siempre en todo. Quizás si es que llegue a mi vejez sea como usted compa. Pacifico como si realmente nada importara en la vida. No se porque pero cada que lo veo platicar me recuerda a las tortugas embarazadas. Con aquea gran calma para llegar a sepas madres donde. Jajaja!

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    1. Tranquility will not solve Mexico's issues sol.
      ONLY BY EXTERMINATION

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  17. Mexico is a lawless country.

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    1. It has been, where have you been hiding.

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  18. yeah bend over to the violence and to criminal;s even more by doing what they say and letting them know who really is in power. What a schmuck that president is. They have Chapo already just threaten to put him in a cell with a big black guy thats going to F*** him up and see if they still threaten with violence.

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  19. They got good Intel on hideout, and all hell breaks loose. That's how Sinaloa should go after CJNG aka baby killers.

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  20. He doesn't want a massacre in Culiacan while massacres take place in Mexico daily. He lost a valuable opportunity through a show of force and failed. He set the standard for all the criminal organizations to avoid capture. What is worse is that he slapped his military and police force in the face by not responding to all the ambushes they have encountered. It is a sad day in history for the Mexican people.

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    1. Perfect precedence for all others to follow.
      Shooting up the town putting innocent civilians at risk will guarantee your getaway.

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    2. Perfect response!

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    3. what did you expect of leader who respects Venezuela´s Maburro. and Cuban Communists

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  21. I think it's fair to say being President over Mexico is one hundred times more challenging than being president of the U.S. I doubt Donald Trump or any previous american president would be able to carry that task...

    To say the least, I admire AMLO for owning his decision and not putting the blame on his security staff. He exhibits true leadership even though it was a failed mission. He weighed the pros and cons and concluded that the risk of losing innocent lives for ONE criminal was not worth the fight...

    Americans are not aware of the collateral damage that occurs in places like the middle east where the U.S illegally invades. Innocent people are affected and often killed as a result of U.S/ government intervention. AMLO understands the importance of blowback. It's not worth it. Say what you want about the Mexican president but I would like to see your credentials and strategy plan that qualify you for the job.

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    1. Innocent people are being killed by the Mexican cartels.... Mexico has a worthless military that does not fight wars.... this from a country that says it’s not scared of death....

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  22. Wow. have never commented here before. but i just need to now. I am not a mexican, I am writing all the way from the other part of the ocean, but dude i feel ashamed. Ashamed as a human being that such a society exists in this age that has bowed down in front of low life, bloodthirsty and greedy criminals! shame on you mexicans... I don't like that idiot Trump, but that wall he is building needs to be 10 times higher!

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    1. Not going to do a ton about stopping drugs considering they also have tunnels,subs, aircraft and boats.

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  23. I’m with Chivis all the way. AMLO is a corrupt, spineless criminal who has been paid off and who will see the bloodiest presidency ever. What a week!

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    1. i think the worst is still yet to come

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    2. Mr. Duncan. Is the AFO still a transnational cartel?

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  24. Please FBI; DEA; CIA; tell your congress and the White house to punish this "government"!! Dont pass TMEC, that shall hit PEJE´s government hard, destroy whats left of this banana economy of Mexico. We are a shame to the World.

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    1. Only one problem.... those same 3 letter agencies are all complicit in drug running themselves. CIA planes full of coke. Cops are paid off in the US too, just not nearly as much money.

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    2. 2:07 I think you should get in touch with reality, instead of assuming that everything is run by government boogiemen.

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  25. This moron just proved himself to be a total bitch

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  26. Apparently there is a campaign of soft coup against Mexico, I read your comments full of insidiousness towards Mexico, understand it will not be able to against Mexico its destabilizing tactics or anything.

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  27. The first thing this weak man said after his election was he was not after the cartel capos. He's living up to his promise.
    Look, he's a coward. He ran for the presidency many times and finally got the prize. He wanted the office and got it. Mexico gave it to him.
    The cartels have to be very happy.

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  28. Amlo is the biggest piece of💩

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  29. Chivis, based on this, the fact that he released them I'm 100 percent sure he's gonna negotiate with the cartels. I think at this point you chose the lesser of multiple evils. Maybe take down CJNG and other cartels who knows ...

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    1. Can't be done. The criminals in Mexico have become far too fractured to negotiate with.

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    2. 9:17 CDS and CJNG are not fractured at all. The others yes.

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    3. 9:06 "Not fractured at all" is an oversimplification. There have been multiple reports of Sinaloa Cartel cells fighting each other and the CJNG is fighting El Marro's group.

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  30. el poder del Mayo rebasa el del mismo presidente

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  31. So if the mafias come with guns tomorrow and tell AMLO to turn over the presidency, he'll do that? This is insanity, not utopia.

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  32. MEXICAN GOVERNMENT HAS NO BALLS. BUNCH OF SISSIES

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