Thursday, September 12, 2019

Menchito on Mencho: "He is not my father"

chivis martinez Borderland Beat from infobae


Rubén Oseguera González "El Menchito", son of Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes "El Mencho", head of the Jalisco Cartel New Generation (CJNG) offered the Mexican authorities supposed evidence to prove that he has no blood relationship with the drug trafficker hoping to avoid his extradition to U.S.

Oseguera Cervantes, number 2 of the CJNG, is being held in a maximum security prison in Mexico. A few years ago he was transferred from the Puente Grande, Jalisco prison to CEFERESO de Chiapas and later to the maximum security zone of CEFERESO in Hermosillo, Sonora, fearing an escape.

A collegiate court rejected his request for amparo against extradition, so it is expected that at any time he can be taken to the United States.

The sentence issued by Adriana Alejandra Ramos León, Eighth District Judge in the State of Oaxaca and confirmed by the Second Collegiate Court in Criminal and Labor Matters, states that "El Menchito" said that he is not the person who appears in the photographs presented by the United States embassy in Mexico when requesting his extradition.

He also presented a birth certificate proving that he was born on February 14, 1990 in the US city of San Francisco, California, that states he is the son of Mexican parents.

"The complainant refers that according to his birth certificate, which was admitted and offered in the procedure, he warns that he is not the son of (Nemesio Oseguera) as he indicated in his statement (an American agent and witnesses).

"Such a statement is not an obstacle to establish that it is not the person claimed by the requesting State ... Especially if one takes into account the existence of various elements of conviction that confirm that it is the same person, such as photographs that exist in the extradition file regarding the complainant, as well as the physiognomic identification opinion issued by the Prosecutor of the Attorney General’s  Office. Thus, when the grounds for dissent put forward by the complainant are unfounded, it is appropriate to deny the amparo, "adds the ruling.

Federal authorities presented an opinion of May 15, 2018 in which it is concluded that after different tests it was determined that the person who appears in the photographs and the inmate is the same.

On August 29, and "El Menchito" was acquitted of the crime of organized crime . However, he remains in prison facing other charges, such as money laundering.

In 2015, the Federal Court of the District of Columbia, in Washington, ordered the apprehension of "El Menchito" , accusing him of possession and use of firearms, as well as conspiracy to distribute cocaine and methamphetamine.

See below the unsealed indictment for Menchito.  It is basic boiler plate material probably created and filed to request extradition.   




76 comments:

  1. Luke...I am your father.

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    1. Bwaahahahhahaaaa

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    2. Lol he claims that Mencho is not his father.

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  2. Chivis, on the 2nd count. Is the weapons charge for carrying in the US or Mexico? How can the US have a charge on him for having a weapon in Mexico if that had nothing to do with US?

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  3. Bastardo,coward n a pos guy of menchito just like mencho so yeah like father like son

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    1. Oh really, is it a coward move to not cooperate and snitch on your own dad, should he be more like mayos kids?

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    2. Mas bien se parece al chapo diciendo que no es narco que es agricultor

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  4. Ya right. He is starting to look just like him.

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  5. Uh, his mom was locked up, I'm sure they swabbed her cheek. Do some DNA testing.

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    1. Think McFly,think... He claims not to be Mencho's son, not the supposed mother.

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  6. hi chivis this is interesting from my point of view the us does not have alot big charges and hard evidence against him, i feel he will get a couple of years but i have also the feeling that can happen with menchito similar to alfredo beltran leyva the us did not have alot to sentence him for a big sentence but since they wanted his brother arturo so bad and did not get him they took it out against alfredo so the us to send a message to mencho or since they know to get mencho will be almost impossible to bring to the us they will take on his son

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    1. funny you should bring up alfredo---that is who I thought of when reading the indictment. That is what happened to alfredo, nothing before then when deciding to indict a standardized document appears. You are very wise, that is exactly how I read the alfredo case. arturo they wanted so badly but can't try the dead and alfredo was getting ready to be free after serving his sentence. he was never mentioned before not in any BLO or CDS indictment or by any witness such as the fores twins.

      If they can't get the real target then someone close will do---or so it seems. Paz

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    2. Do you guys understand how little evidence the Feds need to convict someone on drug conspiracy charges and lock them up for life?

      Trust me...They have 50x the evidence they need to secure a 30 year sentence. The drug conspiracy laws stateside are ridiculous.

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    3. What happened to Alfredo?
      @Chivis.

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    4. The Statute of limitations starts the day they file the indictment or is it the day the crime is committed.

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    5. The conspiracy charge is no joke, I seen people get a lot of time for conspiracy.. crazy charge I might add, conspiracy to move drugs.. it's pretty much saying that they have little evidence but enough to assume their role in the drug game

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    6. The could charge him under Rico. He will get 30 easy.

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  7. I don't understand how our Government in the US can charge of foreign citizen with possession and use of firearms on another country's soil. It seems rather preposterous to me.

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    1. I agree, that should only apply in Mexico since it happened in Mexico but U.S makes it's own rules as it goes along lol

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    2. The crime was against the US and the crime can be committed in any country. While he committed the crime a weapon was used. That alone gets you 10 years at Club Fed. Mental note, do not commit any crime against the US and use a weapon...Another inmate with nothing coming status...

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    3. Thats what they did with Chapo, guilty ! (dont cry Senor Chaps)

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    4. The us govt will reach out anywhere and grab someone if they are involved in unlawful activities. Someone has to stamp out crime

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    5. Not only is ridiculous but how much does it cost usa taxpayers for some zealot goverment adhole to overreach and want to prosecute ppl that are not comiting crimes withing our country. I live in the usq love the usa but i dont think we shld be doing this. Its mexicos responsibility and to make sure that mexico takes their responsabilites serious we shld encourage it with some sanctions.

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    6. Mexico should start extradition proceedings against more than a few international men of respect that have employed all kind of Mexican criminals and cartel members since the 40's and did so many murders and drug trafficking, like the murders of about 30 Policia Federal agents in Sanchez Taboada Veracruz in the 80s at the hands of their drug trafficking contras then training and trafficking cocaine and mariguana and millions of dollars and weapons in rafail Caro Quintero rancho nearby for Felix Ismael Rodriguez Mendigutia, the well connected Cuban refugee (friend and partner of Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros, and the cartel de Guadalajara, and Oliver North) who has got away with murder all his Life.

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  8. He ain't he's sanchos

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    1. Send him to Maury Povich Show and have Chivis read the results

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    2. Lol whos is the father show narco edition.

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    3. He may not be a Oseguera by Mencho, but sure, is a Cuini,
      so what are the charges? Taking money from daddy?
      Daddy sure did not tell him:
      "here son, millions of dollars Straight from the US..."

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  9. Shits about to get real if he does go to US

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  10. Power play by Snr Mencho

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    1. Power play? Hahaha I hope you're being sarcastic. These are more like desperate moves. Little by little CJNG is being dismantled. Leaders are rather being or killed. How many other cartels are they fighting? How many leaders have turned on them, been caught or killed? I think I you are in denial.

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    2. power play lmao more like desperation..."hes not my daddy i swear"!

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  11. The US suprime court is bull shit i personaly did federal time and believe or not they fucking put so much lies in a fucking indictment that u actually belive all the shit they say this stupid feds are all shit and your fucking US jugde are fucking popets from the federal DA. Fucking chumps live menchito alone. Prosecute your white american terrorits does crazy son of bitches of the US does mother fucker killing inisents.. fucking fagets does are the real terror.

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    1. Can someone please translate this? Its like a manta can never understand what they are saying. Lol

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    2. I know exactly what you mean. Judges are just moth-eaten taxidermies nodding off over piles of paper they'll probably mistake for their lunch and eat because heaven forbid they would take the time to read anything. Lawyers are the very worst. They aren't like the passionate advocates who fight for people in movies. They care about judges and other lawyers. Clients are just props for their law games.

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  12. This is not justice.

    Free El Menchito! ✊🏻

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  13. Why act with so much arrogance as if you think you are untouchable? Was not this guy just stating not that long ago that he could not see his Father in the mountains that much because it was too hot? Now all of a sudden he went from claiming that was his father to totally dismissing that?

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  14. Mmmhhhmmm He was born in San Francisco Ca in 1990. Wasnt that time around when Mencho was locked up in San Francisco..its known Mencho lived in Northern Cali for a while

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    1. Mencho got locked up in 92 and let out in 95 he lived in SF, Modesto, Redwood City etc

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    2. Saludos a toda la Raza de San Mateo, California.

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  15. His photographic evidence must be the fotos of his arrest with the gross bandages after his nose job

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    1. Lol he looks ugly asf...10

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    2. IMO the first pictures with the bandaged nose bare hardly any resemblance to him. The picture of him in the red shiet however. Hes becoming a spitting image.

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  16. He looks like his daddy, acts like him too, a loser indeed. Luke Skywalker... I am your father !

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  17. Didn’t Ivan do this with chapo and changed his last name to his mothers and kinda got away with it?

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  18. What's up with the dead bodies in the streets of culiacan they got sapos on top of them. Are they zambadas or anybody knows what's going on?

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  19. When people commit a crime and get caught, they think of the craziest things to say to the judge to see if they could get released.. nobody likes to get caged up like an animal but he committed the crime now do the time

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  20. CJNG are not "authorized" to "work" in the States like CDS? If yes, why they arrest the son of the big boss?

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    1. Authorized? The jaliscos got rich and powerful by avoiding sending drugs to usa then decided to to take a stake of the usa market. They authorized themselves and now only the cds can rival the amounts of work they send and sell in usa.

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  21. ... Next It Will Be ... "That's Not My Sister Either In The Photo With Me And My Dad ... OOp's,I Meant It's Not Me ... Like A Fish Out Of Water, Gasping For Air ... Waiting On News Of His Sister Being
    Caught Soon ... To Be Continued

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  22. They both have idiotic faces so yeah its father and son.

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    1. They’re not as handsome as chapo to you? Lol

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  23. Doesn’t matter if he’s the biological son or not. You don’t go to jail because of who his father may be. He himself is involved in the drug trade. And violence for hire.

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  24. That's his papi🤣🤣🤣

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  25. Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, you can do years in prison over an idea, laying down the plans is enough to get you for years before you even commit the crime.

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  26. He only looks like a lighter skinned version of him. But can’t blame him for tryinf

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  27. Antes que cante el Gallo me negaras 3 veces

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  28. If his claim is true, Rosalinda has some 'splaining to do...... LOL

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  29. Sorry son, gotta take it like a man. Nobody signed you up for this shit. Gotta take it how it goes.

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  30. Leave him alone gosh!

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  31. CJNG about to ether make US prisons or Sonora prison great again.

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    1. The same people that own the Sonora prison are the same that own many in the U.S.. BIG BUSINESS IN locking people up, it's the BIGGEST PRISON IN MEXICO too,

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  32. On the next Maury.. In the case of Menchito MENCHO YOU ARE THE FATHER!!!

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  33. Its unfair that he has to pay for his daddys crimes. If anything the government should go after his dad and let him go free.

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    1. La Mencha is a US puppet too, what the fack!
      --Well, I guess not every Mexican US puppet has the same US merricain puppeteer.

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