Saturday, August 31, 2019

Drone footage of the Abuelo vs Mencho battle yesterday in Tepalcatepec, Michoacan

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat TY Gus and USA22X

Policía Comunitaria Tepalcatepec

“The united people will never be defeated.  El Abuelo is not a person, El Abuelo is a people, El Abuelo is the idea that it is possible to live without cartels.”

 Video recorded after the confrontation with the Jalisco cartel below.


In the video, footage recorded by a drone, dozens of trucks and community members  gathered at the entrance of the town, moments after the shooting that yesterday left 9 dead and 11 injured. The CJNG convoy consisted of 6 trucks.



(Lyrics) "El Cambio" - Noel Torres - YouTube

Today we are going to fight for our people,
because the brave thing that makes me proud
I am a Michoacano
I already hung my weapon,
and today I have become a community ...
A people of hope and good people,
and in all good things, we all know
that there is evil,
we go through "El Cambio"  [change]
because we are tired of all this ...
Today we are going to fight for the rights
we deserve .
Because even the government makes us blind.
But to motivate us came our leader,
called “El Abuelo”... [The grandfather]
The united people will not be defeated
Here we have plenty of reasons  to reveal ourselves
We are not violent but we will fight until we are free ...
Already tired of injustice
we rise up in arms.  
and pray we are in a revolution.
Ready to give our lives
for the people and the family.
For the cause we will fight with honor...
Pray for those who died.
That in life they gave--
while they defended their land and their homeland
with their heads held high,
fighting for the entire race ...
We are not going to give up our weapons to our government-- to be honest
there is no longer  trust, they did not respond to  us, they did not support us
when they were needed ...
Again, we fight for the future
and we are sure
that sooner or later calm will come
but for now we invite everyone
to join the cause ...
The united people will not be defeated
again I tell them there are
plenty of reasons to reveal,
and here we will continue to not give up until we are free ...
With our heads very high
and our weapons under our arms,
we are going to make our voice heard
by the Michoacan people,
we go "Los Comunitarios"

hoping that tomorrow will be better ...

196 comments:

  1. CJNG are the dead guys---Tepeque community patrol protecting the community- although this lasted for hours, no military or police in sight

    They arrived after the fact with the sec of security saying "all is now under control"

    Laughable at best

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    1. Agree
      With all of the threats you would think the government would have flooded the area at the first hint. Mexican government is a joke. Can’t blame for the locals for defending their town.

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    2. Military and police had to change clothes.

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    3. CJNG will get torn to shreds. Mencho is desperate and as I said , Abuelo will not lose this battle. Mencho is sending people to die. Everyone is turning against stupid menchosko. Just a matter of time...

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    4. @8:08
      Menchosko? Lol
      Is that an insult, or a uniquely cute
      Compliment?



      I always get a chuckle with Michael
      Miller.
      Thanks for the laughs pal.


      - Dylann Roof

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    5. Can not believe it's this bad!no inocent should be harmed!

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    6. There are more people that just wanna live in peace than there is pinche basura de Jalisco if they can just do there business without all the killings an kidnappings like before in the mid 90s then I'm sure the Pueblo's wouldn't give a shit, but since there extorting an killing innocent hard working people then now it's different, ponte a trabajar pinche foljos

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    7. Glad the dead were cjng good riddance. CJNG are baby killers.

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    8. 10:18, you from Nueve York? Like the "Pal" slang.

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    9. I once spoke to an older man from Zamora who asked me if my family was from Michoacan. I replied yes apparently he had an idea. When I told him my family was from Tepalcatepec, he immediately said. “Los de Tepeque so barvos.” I told my Pops and uncles and they just smiled. Remember Los Templarios se sentaron cuando trataron de extorsionar y matar a los de Tepeque. Ay huevos de sobra. Same shit will happen here Mencho f@cked up trying to mess with Tepeque. He’s gonna regret this fight. Puro Purépecha! Razos nunca se rajan!

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  2. El mencho se respeta
    This area will soon be flooded cjng grupo elite

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    1. Stfu no one respects a dirtbag you can kiss his feet like a coward

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    2. I give el abuelitas 2 months

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    3. Kinda sounds like the streets are running with CJNG blood.

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    4. You see all the trucks and people abuelo had rounded up.good luck

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    5. Yea just like sicario 06 says all hells guna break loose everytime a Sinaloa drops be careful when people are tired and pissed

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    6. A what fool they're michoanos on both sides ..Sinaloa!! lol you tripping

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    7. @5:47 nothing compared to menchos army

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    8. @726 you don't get it....mencho can only kidnap so many kids to turn into sicarios...he is battling on way too many fronts. These cartels do have limits on weaponry and manpower. They are fighting an embedded enemy who knows the terrain.

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  3. so.. where´s the link of the video of the drone..???
    by the way it remembered me of the rebels fighting Butcher Assad in Sy-ria.. they do use a lot of drones, but the Soviets give Assad "full" support.

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    1. So you are one of the dummies who believe in the fairy tale of the ""moderate rebels""? You are a special kind of stupid then. Long live Secular Syria and not the Jihadi you want you terrorist!

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    2. You’re a joke Assad has killed thousands and thousands of his own civilians with zero accountability.

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    3. 3:56, I aint no "dummie, terrorists or stupid".. I never said "moderate" rebels, And Butcher ASSad hastn been so secular, just ask the Kurds, but thats none of my bussiness. Mr ASSad is only in power because of Persia and the Soviets. if not the kingdom of his Dictator father would have been over by now. So, I think the Sunni rebels, are less worse than the Shias, from who ASSad belongs.. I dont see Saudi arabia (100% sunni) messing with anyone in the ME.or abroad

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    4. Hey moron! If you don't see the Saudis messing with anyone in the Middle East or abroad, then you're either blind or as ignorant as a post. What the fk do you think the Saudis have been doing in Yemen for the last four fking years?

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    5. The rebels turned out to be IsIs.
      Terrorist supporter

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    6. It sounds like you’re thinking of a different kind of drone. Yes, President Assad does what he has to do to remain in power, and with Russia behind him he will win. Less than 24 hours ago Saudis bombed a prison in Yemen. Did you not hear of the reporter Jamal Khashoggi and what happened to him at the Kings order? Don’t forget ISIS was Sunni, and Saudi Arabia originally backed them. Persia? Do you still call Russia the USSR? Brother, I really hope you educate yourself more in the future because you sound like the very things you claim not to be.

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  4. It's kinda badass how they defended their homes from the biggest cartel now Mencho's men will know these guys are for real

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    1. Mencho got his ass kicked. Where are all his elite troop? Were they too busy for their photo op?

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    2. They do know how to dress up for the videos I'll give them that

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  5. That was completely 100% an ambush. Looks like CJNG (if it’s the bodies) tried to set up a bloqueo on the outskirts of town and looks like the “police” knew exactly where.

    I say “police” because vehicle and equipment to dead body ratio is way off. There’s a lot of bodies missing. Most likely alive, tied up few miles away. Some might have hightailed into the jungle. But they won’t make it far.

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  6. like i said, its gonna be a hard one for mencho to win, whole tepeque backs up abuelo, i doubt mencho Will win this

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  7. Great drone scene esp dead Cjng being mowed down. I know all cartels are bad, but CJNG are worst of them all.

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    1. At the end of the day there are 3 cartels which are at parity with one another on the spectrum of evil. Los Zetas. CJNG, Los Viagras. It's almost impossible to make a case for one being worse than the other. All are equal in evil

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    2. 6:34 PM You haven't seen what happens in Sinaloa have you. People in Sinaloa are known to kill entire families. They are also known to rape young girls and kill them. As you can see in Chapo's pappers he liked them young.

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    3. Chapo was a master at manipulating people thats why all the sinaloas think he was a saint when in reality he was a chomo

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    4. 2:55 Im not buying it. I'm absolutely not going to put Sinaloa in the same sentence as those 3.

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    5. Yessss @2:55 those type of men in Culiacan exist for real. I'd really love to list notorious ppl that are known for hiring young virgin girls to party with them 😓Sooo disgusting !!!😪

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    6. CJNG aint In the same category as Z or Viagras.

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  8. Saw the drone footage. Definetly CJNG rode into an ambush. Tires and windows blown out from the side.
    Mencho isn't known as a military genius.

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    1. 3:04 cjng known for killing innocent, unarmed,tied up people that's it...but this scene shows how stupid n untrained they really are,they gave away the element of surprise in those stupid videos they made n of course abuelo n his people were waiting for them...

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    2. where´s the link "carnal"?? I wanna see it too

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    3. Using drones for surveillance is a new standard there.

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    4. If you are unable to view the video use this FB link https://www.facebook.com/PoliciaComunitariaTepalcatepec/videos/2670674806310402/

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    5. gracias chivas. ahorita lo veo
      Att un paisa

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    6. 5:21 just in case you're a CDS Cheerleader member, don't forget about the 3 young girls that were killed in Valle de Juárez. ALL cartels kill innocents!

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    7. 1105 those three girls were killed by mexicles. Mexicles turned against CDS.

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    8. 10:21 read the follow up article. A CDS associate got gunned down a day before and that led to the gunning down of the innocent girls and her family. That's the CDS propaganda.

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  9. El abuelo is deep, cjng will have a hard time

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  10. The best video ever would be Mencho and his whole family beaten and then beheaded!

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  11. corridos is real life the people of Michoacán are not to be played with

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  12. Bad ass corrido . Arriba los communitarios el pueblo unido jamas sera vencido .
    Muy pronto llegara el apoyo de los commandos de Fuerzas Especiales del Commandante Papa Smurf

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  13. CJNG = X marks the spot baby,pour it on and light them up.. CJNG are making many bodies of dead Mexicanos,where is central gob in all of this..Convoys idling through commnunities without a care,some serious boolshit

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  14. So like whyy are they so deep in the beginning of the video

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    1. That's the people. Autodefensas. Hardworking good people fighting for their land. They're surrounding the entrance to their pueblo

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  15. El abuelo pitufin se respeta

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  16. There’s no such thing as a “Community Patrol” - the town of Tepalcatepec has no valid Authority-it’s all El Abuelos guys just calling themselves cops

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    1. Not quite accurate, the Mexican constitution provides autonomy for indigenous peoples to establish their own government and police if the government is not doing so. Such as the case in Michoacan. Which is the foundation for the AD movement.
      Where they got in trouble and was a gray area in the law, was the carrying of weapons and policing outside their communities.

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    2. True but all Michoacan auto defensas got dismantled or joined a cartel or group of narcos like the LMFM , viagras, valencias, Abuelo s even some went to CJNG do at the end the locals are the ones with tied to the local cops. Of course they are just going to call them selves cops

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    3. People stay focused. The discussion is community police. ys there is such a thing. yes it is a mixed bag in many places, but there is such a thing.

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  17. If I rolled up on that scene what would be on my mind is " fuck, parking is gonna be a bitch".

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  18. This just shows they're not invinsible. It reminds me on how everybody was scared of zetas and how they looked unstopable and then they had a huge topon with cdg in florencia zacatecas,with cdg taking out like 60 zetas. From there on zetas started to decline. It looks like history is repeating itself.

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    1. Michoacan is the first place where the ZETAS GOT RAN OUT BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO TAKE MICHOACANOS LAND...they got chopped up in peaces, beheaded and put on bridges ALL OVER MICHOACAN

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    2. Thats not true los zetas were in michoacan doing what they want killing people rape charging plaza,things were bad for awhile mencho ran to jalisco so did los valencias im not taliking shit or clowing its the truth people seem to forget about this time some michocanos didnt run el abuelo was one.This is way CDS helped make los Mata zetas to help fight los zetas with mencho el 85 etc

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    3. They could not enter Michoacan because the Zetas are the ones who showed La Familia bosses how to set up the guardia in Michoacan years before when they use to be good friends with El Chango Mendez... and CDG were not able to defeat the Zetas in Zacatecas when Z-50 had it under control NEVER! once Z-50 gave up the plaza then F-1 from CDG controlled it officially. 60 dead Zetas though? lmao if you don't have a link quit making up shit

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    4. Just liken when michoacanos came with Sinaloa to la riberena and all those pussies ya stan hecho quiso. No te metas a tierraz ajenas y no pasa nada

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    5. For the moron upthere the cdg and the zetas help build the rosales organization which became the familia michoacana. The cdg with the zetas ran the valencias and the milenio cartel out of michoacan. Tamaulipas helped michoacan stand on their own feet.

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    6. 12:01 y el primito de Camargo no la armo o que pedo? Sin mercancía nacional los de la frontera que mueven? No es tan simple el negocio.

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    7. Yea so in result they helped them set themselves up like I said..

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    8. Tamaulipas didn't do squat, just like sinaloas claiming they MADE michoacanos capos lol

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  19. Mencho taught it was gona be like fighting el pirata de culiacan. Hes only tough with defensless people.

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  20. Quien sabe el nombre del corrido❓

    Anyone know the title of the corrido❓

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  21. What a slaughterhouse looks like they set up the ambush for a couple hundred yards along the road the cartel Duden have a chance. They thought that buy keeping a distance between vehicles in there convoy that would be safe but they were wrong. I say around 170 to 400 villagers were waiting for them.

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    1. 4:58 PM Spacing out the vehicles wasn't going to help them when they were getting hit from the big ole hill on their left shooting at them hitting the engines and then they have people on the right hiding near the river. Plus they got hit from behind. If some managed to escape their only escape was up the hill to the left and run for their life's.

      Who ever sent them just wasted their lives. You can tell they rushed in instead of taking their time to clear the area before trying to push they didn't jump out and flank the sides they jumped out of the vehicles once they started taking fire by then it was to late.

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  22. After this event, I can see the military involvement to let CJNG in the area. Military officials will be in the area soon with AMLO blessing.

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    1. 100% this is happening ,

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    2. I don't Understand why Almo will not get involved. Its is Mexico to. I just totally confused

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  23. Chivis my friend from my hometown near the border of Michoacan said for the past two days the hospitals at Cd Guzman have been packed with both dead and wounded with people from this battle. Just a heads up, it’s heating up there’s a curfew set in place and is his words back up coming from who knows where going pass tecalitlan to head into Michoacan. It’s going be a rough end of the year in my beautiful sur de Jalisco :(

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    1. It is reported from the ground in this one battle there were 6 some say 7 trucks of cjng. if 5 or so in each that is at least 30. cd guzman in Jalisco? that is 3 hrs away. seems they would go south east. although guzman has several hospitals.

      Thanks for passing us the info...Paz

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    2. 5:08 is right im from tecalitlan and they are sayin there were a lot of wounded from these fight going in cd guzman hospitals, is gonna get ugly

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    3. There is a huge amount of people that live in Tecalitlan from Tierra Caliente especially from Tepeque. These people still have family in Mich so it’s impossible to sneak into Tepeque with a large convoy

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  24. The US had the same problem back in the Al Capone days. Stop the corruption and they will fall like flies. No payoffs No power. Good on this community to kick their ass. Even if they're in the business.

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    1. Al capone is a saint comparing to the Mexican narcos.

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  25. Noel Torres -El Cambio
    Atte Sicario006 Gente Nueva Special Forces

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    1. Your going to have to recruit el abuelo to train la gente nueva.

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    2. We stand with you Senor 006 and await orders for the storming of Adx Florence

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  26. El cambio / noel torres, atte :YO !

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    1. michoacanos have a more humble style when it comes to corridos
      no BS

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    2. 8:54 El abuelo does but listen menchos corridos n u will see how hyped up he is

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    3. 8:54. You ain't lyin. I don't even consider that a corrido. Its more like a folk story or someone singing about their Grandfather. Lol. After reading that you know Mencho stands no chance in this plaza.

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    4. 6:36 I heard mencho corridos and they are not hyped up and defenetly nowhere near the EXAGGERATION cds have on their fantasy music.. just saying

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    5. 6:36. As hardcore as Mencho is it would probably be difficukt to exaggerate him in a corrido.

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  27. Ese abuelo es un loquillo, but seriously cjng tried to enter from like 4 different locations i daught it was only 8 dead theres a lot more, all the entrences to these town are perfect to get ambushed thats why its so hard to get in tepeke, and if all the people are with el abuelo well mencho might just have to pay real good money to the militares to do the job or else hes is gonna have a really hard time getting to el abuelo

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    1. Poof or it didn't happen?

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    2. 6:09 I kind of have been suspecting the same thing. I can't see Mencho only having sent 6 trucks.

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    3. 11:16 really ?? Lol

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    4. 11:16. I don't know what kind of "proof" you require but other sites are showing pictures of more vehicles and corpses from this battle

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  28. Jajaja jajaja se quisieron poner con el gallo 🐓 jiro y con amenazas quisieron asustar al abuelo de los pollitos. Hora si toparon con alguien que tiene bien organizado a su jente y solo con traicion y el gobierno va poder el mencho con el abuelo... por que al abuelo no nomas lo apoya su jente si no también grandes capos... por algo la familia Michoacan lo luego brincó a la alianza junto con los viagras y varios más... piénsele por que el cholo y la nueva plaza están al pendiente de la nueva alianza....

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  29. No problem, atte: YO !

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  30. Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cartle cowboys...

    Canadian girl

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  31. Can anyone explain the Xs on the vehicles? Is that done after the incident by the "investigators" or was the group identifying themselves beforehand?

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    1. They do it themselves so as to not shoot their own cartel members.

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    2. It's so they won't mistake them as the enemy and shoot at each other.

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    3. In this case, Mencho did that so as to provide excellent targets for Abuelos shooters evidently.

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  32. We should use the drones to fuck these pieces of shit up. Hard to do that, though, when you have a travesty of a government that is in cahoots with them.

    Pinche bola de mugrosos, they ruined our country.

    El Cabròn de Tamaulipas

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    1. If used correctly drones could give away the locations of every cartel leader within a month. Every caravan could be tracked . Safe houses and everything.

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    2. this could be averted with decoys and tunnels, plus even if they track a few of them, corruption will result in intel leaks so they'll get away in the end.

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  33. Pues mi respecto para el Abuelo un Gallo i said it from the beginning he was one of the few Michocanos that stood ther ground against los zetas when mencho y los valencias ran to jalisco to hide and michoacan is going to be menchos down fall

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    1. Actually la familia michoacana were the ones that ran them out NOT the Zetas

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  34. This makes me happy. If only the whole country of Mexico would do this on a much bigger scale and take back Mexico from these cartels so that the people of Mexico can live in peace once and for all.

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    1. Dude el abuelo is a narco, it was cartel vs cartel, but since el abuelos cartel is smaller is easier for him to take care of his people and they back him up 100% plus the people of tepeque like him cause he doesnt take advantage like a lot of other narcos

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    2. 11:12 . Thank you. I get the impression this fact is forgotten by many a person on this board.

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    3. Sorry ant going to happen

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  35. what are the chances of those dead cjng getting bieng layed to rest by thier family. will they get a chance to be handed over or will they just be burned or thrown in a mass grave?

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  36. That was a well planned attack and they were very patient. The vehicles had good spacing and still got slaughtered. Glad to see people fighting back. It's not hard to spot the bad guys with their marked cars and social media ego

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  37. Salute to the drone photographer!!!

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  38. El corrido es bastante bueno.

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  39. Mi abuelo solía juntarnos chamacos en el porche y traernos los días de los rurales. Cuando los pelotones ordenaban a cada pueblito que se uniera para formar una compañía, quizás ciento cincuenta ejideros tendrían armas y entrenamiento. Mientras nosotros, los niños, imaginábamos blandir espadas brillantes a caballo. Celli estaría tallando largos de cadena de madera de pino, el mejor ser cerca de Villa Escalante.
    Si este hombre de Jalisco quiere el gran bronco, entonces los michoacaneros estaremos listos. El tonto no conoce su peligro. Los Rurales son los maestros de la emboscada. En las mulas porfirianas solían arrastrar troncos por caminos bloqueados en máquinas con motores.

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  40. I wonder if they caught any of them alive? If so, let's make some popcorn anf await some truly carnal Michoacan style interrogation videos.

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  41. Corrido is noel Torres..michoacan fighting each other it's better to unite and end the violence

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  42. Y no se raje mi Abuelo...hay q aguntar la vara y siga hechando madrasos..

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  43. This is a war cjng won't win, only way is from government intervention and catches el abuelo and actually get charges to stick not like a few months ago when they released him. You know he's well connected, he was out and the people were happy to see him after his release..
    El abuelo is old school capo but with no exposure, low key like many michoacan capos we most likely will never here about..
    There was one capo from michoacan that was really cool with the oldschool Sinaloa capos. he preferred to stay in michoacan and wasn't interested in flashy things. I forgot his name, there was a story i read a few months and it read that capos from Sinaloa would go visit him in his ranch in michoacan frequently.I can't find the story but my point is this, there is no way mencho will take michoacan tierra caliente region because there are low key capos..
    Who's el migueladas with? Cjng or el abuelo?

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    1. Really bro, you drop all this mad ass info and you don't know who this guy runs with lol. No pun intended el lp

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    2. 12:04 AM Felix Cornejo Sosa El Centenario.

      Felix Cornejo Sosa partners or workers and business associates.
      Carlos Rosales, Efren Gaytan, Arturo Beltran Leyva, El Chapo, El Mayo, El Cartel de Guadalajara, El Cartel del Golfo, Carlos Salinas de Gortari, Alfredo Mendez, Federico Benitez, los revueltas, and los Valencia who betrayed him to be exact Luis Valencia Cornelio and some on that list above others that aren't on that list. Their were many others he was the Don of Michaocan.

      Carlitos Rosales never forgave the Valencia and made it his mission to kill as many as he could. Many drug traffickers on that list eventually went to war with each other or were killed by Los Valencias and their associates while Carlos Rosales killed the majority of the fathers of El Cartel de Los Valencias and kicked them out of the state.

      This is how you know Los Valencias killed him to take what he had created. Page 8 at the bottom.

      http://www.periodicooficial.michoacan.gob.mx/download/1999/09/9/97_ORDINARIO-97-99-09-09.pdf

      Efren Gaytan trying to prevent them from taking Don Felix families inheritance or trying to take it I am not sure as they were really close at the time I believe Efren was in prison in Chicago the Valencias had ratted on him and Carlos Rosales. I also believe Los Cunnis and Mencho were also ratted on close to that time as well hence why they eventually betrayed Luis Valencia Cornelios offspring.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOIyNt0H6LY
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      Don Felix Cornejo Sosa El Centenario in Purple and Efren Gaytan with the cain.

      Their is a picture of him with Arturo Beltran Leyva but I can't find the video where it was at.

      The Original Torcidos were the Valencia Cornelios Carlos Rosales, Mencho and Los Cunis just returned the favor. Mencho returned the favor Don Chuy gave him by sparing his life by getting La Tuta and all the templarios that betrayed him. They are the one's responsible for the war that started in Michaocan.

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    3. Don Felix Cornejo

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    4. @12:04 you are such a great story teller minus the actual characters

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    5. El mígueladas y la raza de la huacana y zicuirin está con el abuelo y gente de Michoacan pura FM todos juntos como Antes la union ase la fuerza

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    6. 6:50 that is knowledge. Seria capo desde los sesentas/setentas Félix Cornejo sounds vaguely familiar from some corridos de Michoacán. Carlitos el seriecito mato un Valencia que "perdió" mercancía, tenía entendido que de eso empezo el plieto con Milenio. Chuy jr que no se unió a la Nueva?

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    7. You saying what i been telling people but they dont rember when CDG sent los zetas on behalf of carlos and were killing los valencias they almost finished them

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    8. There has always been competition with michoacanos and Sinaloa.. I bet the sinaloas killed cornejo to try to take michoacan plaza,just like when sinaloas killed camarena and dumped him in michoacan.. that caused the mobilization of thousands of soldiers cuting down marijuana fields and harassing the michoacanos all over the state

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    9. The Valencia vs Carlos Rosales war started over a female, Ines Oseguera; Menchos cousin.
      At the time Rosales had Osiel Cardenas backing witch led to Golfos, Z’s invading
      Michoacán.
      Valencias looked for allies and found them in the Sinaloa Federation, but fled from Michoacán.
      Nearly 15 years later, Mencho collected his and the Valencia’s debt, murdering Rosales
      In Uruapan by the hands of one of CJNG associates; El Cenizo Rentería.

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    10. You are very wrong take it like you want Sinaloa never has competed with michoacan los michocanos have always felt like los Sinaloense think were better then them and fill like they have to try in compete with us .when in reality compa it aint even like that cada quien tiene lo suyo i got some real good compas from michoacan and thers alot of michocanos that i have had to let them know that i dont care how they feel about me cause I don't need them for nothing just like they don't need me for nothing and if they have a proablem to let me know like a man and we can figure it out real quick how every .at the end of the day every state in MX tiene su Gallos dont matter were you from we all got 50%chance to win a 1 on 1 .Aque andamos 🍅al💯con los que anda al 💯con uno y los que no pues ALV.

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    11. 1:48 sinaloas are known to give information about their close associates including cousins to Government
      You know nothing about how sinaloas operate, they are some on some hater sh!t and only want to be on top..
      I know your from Sinaloa but that doesnt speak for chapo, mayo and vicentillo having a close relationship with DEA... that's the reason sinaloas are not at their peak because everyone knows how they operate.. they lost people in Tijuana, chiapas, cabos, morelos and now work with mencho cjng

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    12. 5:46 PM Carlos Rosales was already at war with the Valencia's before the 2000s to be exact in 1994. Carlos Rosales never set foot in Michoacan for at least 5 years. Mencho wasn't the one that killed Carlos Rosales it was either the Viagras or El Cenizo Templario. The people who benefited the most with his death were the Viagras as Carlos Rosales was the boss in the territories they control in Guerrero. How was Carlos Rosales going to go to war for a vieja when he wasn't even in Michoacan.

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    13. @4:32
      Z’s didn’t end Valencia’s they didn’t even
      Come close,
      They’re pretty much well-and-alive
      And just so happen to be one of the
      Richest organization/family’s in Mexico.

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    14. @11:57
      Are you mentally challenged?
      This isn’t my “personal opinion or assumptions”.
      Carlos Rosales himself told a journalist whom he was locked up with at the time, why the war with the Valencia’s had started(the journalist did write a book were he explained the situation)
      Over Ines, Carlos wife at the time and Menchos cousin.
      Inés betrayed Carlos , With Luis Armando (a) El Maradona and it was war after that.
      That led to the incursion of Z and Golfos to Michoacán territory as Carlos and Osiel were very close at the time. Carlos had always been in Michoacán, and after the Valencia’s fled he had a tighter grip in the state till his capture.

      No mencho did not kill him personally TONTON, but all groups in Michoacán at the time were under CJNG bannner from approximately 2011-2012 till 2015-2016
      The includes splinter CT groups and AD groups(the good and the bad) when Rosales was killed he was summoned to a meeting with AD and Viagras and Cenizo who was and is a CJNG associate killed him I’m sure on behalf of Valencia’s/Mencho.

      Read a book or two bruh it helps.

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    15. @1157
      Your trippin el tísico never left michoacan until
      His arrest, he was the one waging war on the
      valencias in michoacan he was compadres with Osiel and had his backing
      That when z wer sent to fight along el tísico agains the valencias, he was even the mastermind behind the Apatzingán penal siege(in preps for the Palma penal invasion to free Osiel)were some z wer rescued others were kidnapped(Valencia sicarios) all these events mind you are in record, and some of these tales were from tísico

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  44. Reminds me of Tabatuma ambush...

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  45. Chivis I am hoping the whole CJNG convoy that was going for a shootout, got ambushed. I was born in Michoacan, and we are not going to stand for this slaughter of, the heartless cartel that has killed innocent people. We know the government is along with them.
    Don't mess with Michoacan

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    1. @6:46
      Where have you been all this time
      The viagras were operating?

      That group terrorized Michoacán from extortion, kidnapping, raping stealing murdering , betrayal.

      And US Michoacános are worried about
      Cjng tryna kill another criminal?
      Let them shoot it out —esos son problemas de hombres—- aslong as the community don’t get involved(witch they are) we shouldn’t have no innocent casualties, Jalisco has made it clear
      The problem is with Abuelo not the Pueblo.


      ~ Dylann Roof

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    2. CJNG is a different kind of devil for sure. But Michoacan is a different kind of foe. My sense is Mencho misread Tepeque but will send in heavy arsenal at some point. and there will be a slaughter.

      People do not understand But essentially the movement cares nothing about Mich and allows whoever is in power[org crimes] to conduct atrocities at will same in Gro. Th reason is obvious or should be.

      Lesson 1: Question asked of me "why is it ok for this band of narcos to fight cjng and be called heroes? they are the same.

      Well not quite. an its complicated---

      While it is very true abuelo and his family are long time narcos, and the group protecting the town are comprised of narcos, it is equally comprised of townspeople. The gob will not help, I mean have you seen them show up? so they turn to someone that has proven to be trusted---abuelo is that person. He protects innocents and the town. people love him for that, they know drug trafficking is wrong, but they overlook that fact in the name of survival.

      BTW the ambush from the hills is a 'go to' method of attack in Michoacan. Tuta used it against autodefensas. Once trapped in the 'valley' belowm it is like shooting fish in a barrel. another advantage is the impossible terrain of the sierras, which is very difficult to navigate. the military has never quiet figured it out. That is why Nazario had two lives and Tuta was only caught for going off the mountain for some chocolate birthday cake.

      Do you, or anyone know if Gallito, Nazario's nephew, is still at the helm? I hear almost nothing about what he is doing.

      He sure has a strong resemblance to his uncle

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    3. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/search?q=gallito

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    4. @6:46

      I’m not Michoacano but I greatly appreciate your spirit.

      El Cabrón de Tamaulipas

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    5. Chivis, with all the wars CJNG is in at the moment are they really in the position to be fighting the towns of Michoacan. I’m from there and all the towns are modest sized and everyone tends to know each other so it’ll be hard to infiltrate the small ranchos and those ranchitos have only few entrances where any vehicle could reasonably enter through. Which means whoever is in charge can easily set up ambushes and the threats of armored cars are minimal since they could be blocked off with cars and have their wheels shot out causing them to be nothing but metal death traps. Even if Mencho wins this war he’ll have lost way more than he won if he simply didn’t initiate this war. Seems he’s a hot head and can let it blind his reasoning. El Abuelo seems to have competent soldiers and the townspeople that aren’t necessarily in the narco business will fight with them to defend their town because it is obvious if Mencho wins there will be massacres and many innocents tend to get caught up in those situations. Seems he’s in a lose-lose.

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    6. Hill-top ambushes have been recorded throughout history
      Infact a couple years ago Jalisco
      Did the exact same thing between 2014-2016(don’t remember exactly what date,year)
      They ambushed the policía-estatal were about 15 policemen died.



      ~ Dylann Roof

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    7. Yeah CJNG don't mess with Michoacan. Many of your men got killed, now how do you like a taste of your own medicine....not good huh you should stop killing Innocents, you already have lots of plazas, henchmen translate this to your boss.

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    8. Thanks for the input, if Abeulo did not get involved, that city would have had, a lot of innocent people killed. This is a prime example, of autodefensas acting quick to avoid bloodshed, in other parts of Mexico.
      Arriba Abuelo!
      Don't mess with Michoacan

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    9. That's a very good point Chivis about the ambush from the hills. I suspected this was a possibility due to the spacing of the trucks and the way they were parked.

      If they just had kids on the hills every 100 yards with molotov coctails they could utterly destroy any convoy coming in

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    10. 1:16 you absolutely understand and know the environment. It is as tho each town is autonomous out of necessity. the AD movement crossed those lines uniting towns which gave them strength. As such they were able to knock off their list of priorities at a good clip, then the gob stepped in and annihilated AD, creating a legal band of bandits and destroyed the AD movement. Next they had to arrest and remove from Mich Doc M. Mission accomplished. AD movement killed and deeply buried.

      I am certain Doc made a deal with the gob not to become involved with AD because he doesn't even report what is happening in his home town of tepeque on his twitter, it is all about politics.

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    11. As I previously stated mencho sent in a few tucks but what happened does not indicate the future. He will take the city iMO and I heard the narcos fighting him and possibly abuelo are now gone.

      Sad

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    12. Doc.Mireles is a criminal too. Stop standing up for him chivis.

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  46. Y un X Marcaba el Blanco 🎶 reminds me of Los Mazatlecos y Chapo flores when they lit up chapo Guzmans boys back at that gas station. And some moron said that menchos boys would destroy isidro and his mazatlecos haha. This is guerrilla warfare and the best battle won is a battle not fought, mencho and his boys wouldn't last in that battle either. Saludos a Mazatlan, Guasave y los mochis. Animo gente de Michoacan no dejen que estas lacras agan lo que quieren con su pueblo

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  47. Antes la mafia era puro trabajar y hacer dinero para ayudar en mexico y la gente tenia palabra 80 90s y en aguililla todos salia con los caros cargados de jale

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  48. Biatches got smoked. Look at the number of people and vehicles at the intersection milling about and parked. Even if only a third of those are contras to Mecho, he needs to come with alot more soliders.

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  49. Some sources report:
    That el abuelo has aligned himself
    With LNFM and VIAGRAS.


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  50. What pisses me off is how people actually think El Abuelo is a good guy and that hes defending his pueblo from the big bad CJNG.
    Both El Abuelo and Mencho are scum that deserve to be executed. The ignorance that the people on this thread display is part of the reason why this shit will never stop and it will only get worse from now on.

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    1. 9:47 difference between them 2 is that abuelo does help his people,doesn't kill innocents specially not kids... mencho is a bloodthirsty punk killing everyone on his way old or young stripping them off their possessions driven by greed

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    2. maybe he is a lesser evil than mencho. I'd rather have El Mayo controls all mexican drug business than Mencho. El Mayo is old school and knows the code.

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    3. Take the Devil you know.

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    4. He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch.

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    5. @1:01 well said 😂

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    6. 2:33 remember when Mayo backed Chapos attempt to try to remove CDJ from power? How many Innocents died in their greed to be los más chingones? POS all of them, stop that CDS propaganda.

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    7. 2:33/12:56. Arguments could be made on both sides of your debate. I agree that Mayo is probably better than Mencho in the sense that he is focused on drugs and not extortion but at the same time Chapo/Mayo bare primary responsibility for the chaos in Mexico to this day.

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  51. If they smart enough to use the drones for intel they have a huge advantage.

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  52. 6, 7 trucks was not a lot. I think this was just Mencho testing waters to see where Abuelo's positions are and how many people Mencho need next time. They were sent there just to get slaughtered

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  53. Looks like the stole the 50cal mounted in the last truck

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  54. Good info as always chivis! gracias!

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  55. Honestly this was just a test , kind of a torpedo to see what the abuelo and his buddies are capable of. Common sense who has more money abuelo and associates or mencho'scorporation?? If mencho really wants this small town on the middle of no where, he would pay up the government to go in and disarm the locals, even use the same government as way to infiltrate his sicarios inside the town. I'm not a genius but if I had unlimited funds, I would bribe and hire the government they have the law on their hands.

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    1. 653 I indeed believe your theory. That's exactly what happened to Mireles, and his group we're unarmed by the government, they had brainwashed him to the point, that he doesn't get involved in the manner he used too. Yes I agree, it would totally be dumb if the givgovernm gets involved with Abuelo.
      Mexico-Observer

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    2. El Abuelo is just a snack for Mencho. Hell punishing him just for the inconvenience. All he has to do is just outspend him the way he made Viagras go almost broke.

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    3. It could have been a probe to see what resistance would be met. Mencho didn’t think twice of killing El Ritchie, and we all know criminals have zero problems sending cannon fodder for senseless reasons

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  56. I’m kinda disappointed
    The war CJNG was waging on the Viagras
    Has been diverted, to the abuelo issue.
    And now new alliances a being built, old
    Enemies are reuniting to combat the cjng invasion
    They want “ a Michoacán for los Michoacános” bullshit, the leaders of Jalisco are from Michoacán.
    If that was the true intention, fight los Sierra Santana they’re the true “verdugos del Pueblo”.
    All independent groups, fm , ct and viagras
    Have made a truce for now.

    People so easily forget who was the real enemy and el Pueblo’s, los sierra Santana.
    They’ve essential become a worse version of los templarios, killing at free will ,kidnapping, extorting rapping, intimidating.

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    1. Exactly. Those dirtbags don't have the suppliers for the perico or the the customers to ship the product they produce. Extorcion, secuestros, rateros, violadores. The same bullshit that got CT annihilated.

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  57. So can someone give the backstory of this Mencho vs abuelo thing?

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  58. The US won every battle and still lost the war in Vietnam. If El Mencho thinks this is worth taking, no doubt he will throw as much as he thinks would be worth it. It is good to see citizens finally being able to stand up for themselves and resist.

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    1. No one won the war in Vietnam.In Michoacan they are not afraid to fight the aggressor, they await for more, it's the other states in Mexico, that do not stand up for themselves, they prefer to get killed.
      Luna Apagtha

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  59. It's great to hear that the baby killer cartel got slaughtered big time, the good thing about abuelo, is that he knows how to coordinate an ambush, with his townspeople, something the Marina's, Army or police have not done. Stand up and fight the aggressor's.
    Kill them before they kill you.
    Mexico-Observer

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  60. Orale Michoacan! Sacario 006, what you think about this one. Sinaloa can't top this one.

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  61. El convoy venía procedente de cuidad Guzmán.

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  62. So that was the shootings that we're recorded on video from a distance. Glad to see Abuelos comrades we're not afraid to shoot it out, with CJNG. We are so happy Mencho under estimated the community power. Viva Michoacan, for those that don't know how to spell it, once again Viva Michoacan.

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    1. 3:03 always thought it was michoacaca..

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  63. Viva El Abuelo! Viva Michoacan!

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  64. It seems cjng are used to taking plazas by just rolling in looking tough and locals out of fear give up with out a fight. Now that someone fought back they didnt know what to do

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    1. Wrong Chonga, the difference is that the people of this town are fighting along with el abuelo against Mencho. Going against a town is trickier than just another cartel. U can’t just slaughter the people or you’ll have the the government under more pressure to capture you. Different kind of fight buddy

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    2. El odio y envidia los ciega a las circunstancias del plieto. Puro Michoacán ojetes

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  65. Mencho wanted a shoot-out, and lost his men. He has made Abuelo stronger all those guns, ammo, trucks now belong to his group. Also what will he do with the 11 wounded CJNG captured members?

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  66. The United people will not be defeated should be the name of the corrido... especially the ones armed with guns from the good ole USA ...
    GC

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