Wednesday, August 7, 2019

Audio: "Rafas nephew's body or no truce and more murders"

SOL PRENDIDO BORDERLAND BEAT

Narrative of a supposed meeting of the Rafas, Chapitos, Yecora and Salazar. They warn that there will be more deaths 

Video Narrative Translated by Sol for Borderland Beat: 

"Well, there was a meeting about 2 months ago. Maybe less. One month I guess. And everyone sat down. Los Rafas (RCQ), Los Chapitos, Los Yecoras, and Salazares. But only the administrators from every plaza. Lets see, what about you, are you in agreement? And such, and such, and such. Yes. And you? And such and such and such.

Of course. Ok, well everything’s good. We’re gonna get 30,30. 20 for the bribery. And 50 for the bosses. Which is Rafa (RCQ), Mayo and the rest of that shit. Ok, of course. That was the agreement. Towards the end he asked: Salazares, hows everything with you guys?

Everything’s good boss. They have beef with Yecoras. What’s up with that? Don’t get involved. Ok, of course.

Well, we want protection and more business. That’s what the Salazares said. Rafa said of course. But I need Ivanders body. Rafas nephew, I don’t know if you remember. And they said : Well, we don’t have it. With that, well you just fucked yourself. If you’re committed to saying that you don’t have it. Then there will be no truce with you guys. Your people all the way to Caborca, the hunters (sicarios) it’s over. There will be no truce. There will be nothing. And since they told these guys this, they no longer wanted to work. It’s not over yet. There will be murders all this week because of this."

93 comments:

  1. Animo sicarios
    En la union esta la fuerza! Cant we all get along !

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  2. They must get their shit fixed or the jaliscas will mop the floor with them

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    1. “haz de cuenta” cartel lovers I’m sorry to say that it is all bull 💩, I wonder how much money these two guys will make with this fake news gig they have started.
      -idiots

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    2. dejen nomas que lo encuentren smh


      -payan

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  3. Who supposibly said, "with that, well you just fucked yourself"
    El Mayo?

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    1. RCQ he wanted his nephews body, i guess salazares killed him, and maybe disolved it thats why they cant give the body back, so rafa said well theres no truce and you just fucked your self up, reason why napoleon got killed a few days ago, he was salazar

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    1. Yecora is a small town in southeast Sonora. The criminal cell there refer to themselves as Los Yecoras. 💥💥💥 BOOM!!! (Finally the mystery was solved!)

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    2. There was a dude El Chupon from Yecora that was previously Gente Nueva Salazar. Don’t know what his alliance was afterward as Salazar wasn’t too happy with his people going into Chihuahua. Guy eventually got sprayed by a military helicopter about 2 years ago.

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    3. Yecoras are with La Linea now, El Aguila and 500 went to work with them since Tintin from Agua Prieta killed Chupon. Check out this link BB https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elsoldehermosillo.com.mx/policiaca/vive-sonora-una-guerra-de-carteles-por-control-de-la-sierra-3986721.html/amp

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    4. 020 el chupon was killed about a year ago .. after his death yecora started getting hot .. a lot of shoot outs and killings since his death

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  5. So could someone explain what's going on here? Who's fighting who, who the hell is Rafa's nephew? Which Rafa are they talking about

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    1. Rafael Caro Quintero. It looks like an infighting.

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    2. RFQ is the boss along with Mayo and Salazar, Yecoras , Cazadores , etc. Are all administrators. Sometimes the administrators infight but at the end of the day the head stays the same . Los Paez de Caborca are relatives of Caro Quintero . Ivan paez and Panchito Payan were both killed by Salazar

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    3. Rafael Caro Quintero is fighting Los Salazares.
      Apparently Ivan Páez Caro and Ponchito Payan got killed by Salazares. Adan Salazar was kill by Caro Quintero after that. Something like that.

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    4. that's correct---but i can find no info as to where or when ivan was taken. It had to be at least 3 years

      http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/cds-body-of-adan-salazar-dumpedat-doors.html

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    5. Alfonso (Poncho) Payan was related to Emilio Quintero Payan. Uncle of Rafael Caro Quintero. Killed in 1993.

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    6. Ivan and Poncho were driving through the Obregon/Navojoa area when they disappeared; Territorio de los Salazares. Supposedly they got picked up by LE over there. Poncho was on a phone call when they got pulled over, and he mentioned LE when he ended the call in a very casual fashion, that's how it was known. This happened probably between 4,5 years ago. Los Salazares keep denying they did it, but RCQ knows better.

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    7. good info 1:34 so the year 2015 that i had heard is probably accurate

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    8. El Larry? @1:34

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    9. Whatever sounds more believable on here is probably true?


      😂

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    10. Then having Law enforcement kidnap and deliver Salazares completes measuring the people as they measured their victims, except for RCQ it doesn't even rise to the level of getting started.

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  6. You know rafa has a truce with cjng, so does this mean that he is letting cjng traffic through sonora and maybe cjng are lending some hit man and take out salazares, javier rosas better be careful he sings for all those salazares

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    1. Cjng doesn't ask no cartel for permission to cross, they cross everywhere even tamaulipas
      Theres an old story here when caro cane out of prison and he asked mencho for protection
      Caro lost alot of power when he got put in prison

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    2. Most mainstream singers do

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    3. Sonora is split Ovidio/Caf and minor groups

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    4. El Pelo Chino who’s related To RCQ is with Cjng and he’s a Heavy in there

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    5. RCQ was funding Mencho when Caro was in jail .

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    6. Mencho has los cuinis, he doesn't need his funding like cholo with mayo

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  7. Sol, When was Ivander killed?

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    1. I can’t say for sure. The name of the person killed was Ivan Páez Caro. He’s RCQ nephew. I’m assuming the family wants the body for a proper burial. It gives them closure. Or they’re trying to draw out the culprit. Either way they’re screwed. Should’ve just given up the least profitable sicario within their ranks and avoided the war. RCQ is about to flex his power and exorcise those demons.

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    2. I’m assuming it was some time in May of 2016. That’s when Adan Salazar was killed and dumped in front of a funeral home in Navojoa. That was supposedly revenge for Ivan Páez and Ponchito Payán

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    3. why was ivander killed? was he important or just a nephew

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    4. see above my reply---follow link and read comments

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  8. Salazars rided heavy for El Chapo who knows how tight they are with Ivan but this isn't the first time they had beef within like when they tried to move in on M100 but had to call it off when they weren't breaking through

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    1. From what I heard when Mandy Moreno & R5 we’re out the picture in Agua Prieta los Salazar tried a hostile take over. But the locals weren’t having it.

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    2. Salazars got numbers but they underestimated them and as of today it seems the bosses in Aqua Prieta are allied with RCQ

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    3. Who is allied with rcq Tintin m100 I visit frequently and hear there independent and not allied

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  9. "we don't have it"
    Should have said we don't know anything about that...
    --Now it is about “what did you do with it, and why"?

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    1. Pretty sure it's already been established they were the ones responsible. Probably why they were sitting down in the first place. I wanna know how and who got this recording?

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  10. Freaking funny, it’s almost as if the CDsnitches love putting their news all over the world. These fools need to stop the leaks, and stop being so loud.snitchin on each other and stuff #pendejeos

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    1. How if that’s the only thing they know how do.

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  11. Cds is all screwed up after chapo got busted, I wouldn't be surprised if zalazar team up with mencho for protection. It would be the smart thing to do, if not they will lose that plaza

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    1. Didnt rafa work with mencho? Or at lease had a truce? If salazars team up with mencho o man is gonna get really ugly, for cds that is

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    2. Word is that right after his released he did work with Mencho who he was indebted to for protecting his assents. RCQ helped fund the viagras in their wipe out of autodefensas in Michoacan

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    3. Chivis if true and RCQ asks for cjng help o man salazares might as well just shoot them self in the head or not let them selfs get caught alive

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    4. 10:31 AM RCQ funding the Viagras was la Tuta having tweeker paranoia. Los viagras were funded by La Tuta at the Start of the Self Defense groups. Eventually they betrayed him. The Viagras took over a few thousand Huertas de Limon and another thousand or so huertas of Avocado and took control of the Meth labs the Tuta had in Buenavista that is how they funded themselves after they betrayed La Tuta. After Alfredo Castillo got rid of the Narcodefensas the Viagras started taking over the Extortion, Kiddnapping, prostitution, gambaling and a few other rackets the tmeplarios had.

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    5. agree----I have not heard anything in a while about the status of the relationship, however if they had split it would be known. I do know RCQ was very grateful to mencho. I recall that he paid for all the vehicles used by Viagras, remember mencho an viagras were allied at the time.

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    6. Yea salazares are chapos not rafas and if they desrespected rafa they are fucked, probably thought chapo was always gonna be there for them but chapitos know better to start a war against rafa with the back up from mencho i guess, most likely rafa has a truce with mencho and cds in some plazas and if pelo chino (related to rafa) is with cjng is not looking good at all for salazares, now that i really think about it maybe it was rafa who asked mencho to let the chapitos go if it really was mencho who kidnapped them

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    7. This narco world is really complicated, like in an every day families where sometimes your families members are assholes to you so you are more grateful to someone else who is no related to you and then shit breaks up with them two and you decide to back up your friend not your family, its just intereiwined so bad that at the end you have no idea whats going on

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    8. Chivis why do you deny comments that are facts. Just because they don’t align with your statement.

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    9. @12:46 That is so true there. - Sol Prendido

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    10. If? He is with CjNg
      He’s one of their Heavy Movers
      He’s in the same class as El Mencho,
      He just doesn’t make as much noise.

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    11. Sorry to ‘burst your bubble’ but the correct answer is your all wrong. CQ was broke in jail already (obviously after 28 years there’s no way he’d still have $). Someone who i wont name out of respect to him, de la sierra de sinaloa (i wont even say which sierra), gave him a certain amount of money which i wont state either which in turn he used to get out of jail. Upon arrival in sinaloa with few words spoken he was already a boss dawg and he doesn’t play. He quickly had el del Regalo Caro killed when that individual raised his voice at him at a boss meet a few years ago. Whether you believe or not this is the real fact, only reason im finally writing it out is because im tired of reading he asked for mencho’s help and so forth because there was definitely no need for that. En los ojos de la gente del cartel he never snitched so the respect’s still there, so there’s no reason he would go anywhere but con el M grande.

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  12. The people in Caborca mentioned (the hunters) is another cell led by el cazador hence that’s why their named Los cazadores. I didn’t know they were clicked up with Salazar though, most players from caborca stay independent.

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    1. Los Cazadores are Mayos and Chavos people.

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    2. No, Cazadores, or the Chubetos, are Chapitos people. Caborca has always been RCQ’s. . Mayo’s and Chavo’s people are El Charly of Puerto Penasco, and Memo in Sonoyta.

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  13. and this SHIT goes on and on . Cant these criminals be eradicated .

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    1. Exactly! Just send in a SEAL team or two to take out Rafa and Mencho. That all depends on that ridiculous body called the Mexican government, what a joke to the international community.

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    2. You obviously are blind or are new to the drug war. You don't know what happens when a boss is taken out, crime goes way up. The problem is not jus to the government but the people that idolize the narcos

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    3. Seal teams are not what they used to be but nevertheless they are tough but love to party too much

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    4. @10:37, Oh yes, you're sooo right! That's why they never bothered to extradite Chapo, because why bother if the crime is going to go up! You are the blind one, my friend.

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  14. Y Los Peinaditos? Que onda? Los Negroes? Los Lobos? Los Chachos?

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  15. Work with the dea and put RCQ in an American cement block and problem solved! They know where he is!

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    1. Nah, I like RCQ. He knows how to work properly.

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    2. RCQ is and always will be protected. He could of screwed the CIA but he never folded

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  16. Who knew rafa was more powerful than chapo reason he got out was he gave up chapo 😂😂😂😂

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    1. It's crazy how that works but even his brother got released recently too
      Not a coincidence

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  17. Well this answers a lot of questions about whats going on down there. Crazy how powerful rcq is after all these years. And how vulnerable the salazars are without chapo. And now miguel is back in caborca. I guess we'll see what happens

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    1. He is respected by pretty much every cartel cause he did his time like a man and never snitched on anyone, he never started a war and he always showed respect, when you show respect you get respect back

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  18. Yes! "THESE" Criminals can be eradicated...But Crime cant be.So what happens is someone else takes each criminal who gets caught or killed spot. So like you said the shit goes on and on

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  19. Quintero asked mencho for help after he got our of jail. My question is why didn't he ask mayo who is supposed to be the big dog?
    Quintero obviously knew mencho had more power than mayo in my opinion

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    1. And he was locked up in jalisco, had to make friends with the locals, plus to be onest rafa is a legend he never fucked with anyone so why would mencho mess with him its all about respect

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    2. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer

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    3. Actually, RCQ is cool with both Mayo and Mencho. Although, at this current moment, he is riding harder for Mencho.

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    4. It's the other way around . Caro and his relatives in Jalisco funded Mencho early on .

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    5. 7:48 please don't make stuff up lol
      it was los cuinis that funded him tonto

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    6. @10:27, who created Mata Zetas? Isn’t that what started the seeds of CJNG.

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    7. Sooooooooooo, the cuinis just popped up out of nowhere in scene and had nothing to do with mencho before CJNG right?@ 7:48am.


      Cause according to you RCQ funded them?

      Who start these rumors? Lol by the time these lies get to the 3rd,4th person they’ve already became a reality.




      Smh lolololololololololol
      Laughable community of commentators.


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  20. I say nothing wrong yet my comments don’t get posted. Wack.

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    1. Lol you always whining

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    2. 7:48 work on your comments more than on your complaints.
      And don't be an asshole about it.
      Beleeme, it works.

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  21. I just seen hundreds of Chapitos ppl walking around the Sierra something is up.

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  22. Mr. Leave me alone I did my time I don't want problems

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    1. What’s he supposed to say? Yeah, I’m out, I’m going back to the Narco lifestyle. Come on now, you’re smarter than that

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  23. RCQ and Mencho son muy grande

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  24. Actually RCQ and MAYO are the top dogs. Mencho has a truce/ alliance of some sort with both of them. Which is why MAYOs people are working back in jalisco like they did when nacho coronel was around. If he was at war with mencho they wouldnt allow sinaloenses out there

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  25. Some of y’all don’t know or understand: RCQ didn’t lose anything but time while he locked away. Never lost: power, respect or money, his routes. RCQ is rooted/protected more than some of you would be able to imagine.

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  26. Why the alliance with CJNG by RCQ? Name me one plaza El Mayo took by himself, I’ll wait.


    Yeah, see Mayo needed Chapo. Chapo and Mencho were plaza takers. Mayo a great manager. Can you differentiate

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    1. Ya Mayo suck . He can't storm into a plaza and take it over himself like rambo then do 500 yeard and prison. What an idiot Has to have puppets take all the heat and do all the work. All he gets is all the money and freedom. Poor guy.

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    2. @8:18 Maybe el chapo wasn’t too bright to see that in el Mayo but RCQ is, he’s not someone who can be used as a puppet so has alliances with a plaza taker (mencho) and mayo for his political clout. End of the day Mayo can’t beat Mencho. He’s not built for it. And RCQ knows this.

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