Saturday, August 4, 2018

Autopsies and 4 identifications for 11 victims found in Juarez safe house

Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat Material from El Diario


Meiby Oyuki, 19,  is "reportedly" one of the victims, she has a 3 yr old son.  Her husband was murdered 2 mos ago

This story has been difficult to report on.  “Facts” that appear from credible sources are wobbly. The following is a thread of reports from the same source over two days.  below are two reports from the same publication one day apart, different "facts'.

Ciudad Juárez- Forensic Medical Personnel finalized the autopsy reports of the 11 homicide victims located yesterday morning in a house on Oasis Street, in the Pradera de Los Oasis neighborhood, in the southwest section of the city of Juarez.

The autopsies of three of the women ruled out that they had been sexually violated.

The eleven died by strangulation and in no case were bullet impact wounds found, according to information from Semefo.
Another group of doctors are working on the autopsies of another 21 victims of intentional homicide yesterday and early today.

The families of;; Miriam Janeth López Contreras, 18; Cristhian Iván Hernández Ontiveros, 19; Carlos Iván Torres Sotelo, 21; Víctor Arturo Soto Calderón, 18; Marisol Terrones Mélendez, 22, and Ricardo Hernández Cardiel, 23, went to the Unit of Crimes against Life, to identify the corpses and claim the delivery of the bodies

Yesterday El Diario reported:

Among the 11 victims found this day brutally murdered inside a house in the Pradera de los Oasis neighborhood, there were two men aged 19 and 22 who were allegedly targets of the attack, according to personnel from the North Zone Prosecutor's Office.

Both were tattooed on various parts of the body that allegedly indicate they were members of the so-called "Vieja Guardia Azteca", one of two groups of the splintered Aztecas.

Apparently,  relatives of these two young people were among the victims.

Eight bodies were located on the second floor of the house and three more on the ground floor.  Nine of the bodies were reported as being innocents.  The three females tortured and raped.

Today some facts changed from above:

This multi-homicide crime is linked to a fight to control the sale of drugs in the city, according to preliminary information from the Northern District Attorney's Office.

Miriam Janeth Lopez Contreras
An investigating agent commented that they have managed to establish that most of the murdered were dedicated to the sale of 'crystal'.

It was also established that Ricardo Hernández Cardiel was the one who rented the property just a month ago and used it as a drug house where drug dealers gathered.

Hernández Cardiel was supposedly a leader of the 'Los Mexicles' gang and one of the targets of those who committed the multiple homicides, the investigator interviewed said.


The “Old guard” Aztecas, although were enemies in the past,  have allied with Mexicles, according to El Diario.  Yesterday they reported tats that indicated the some of the dead were Aztecas, today saying they indicated they were Mexicles. 

Among the officially identified victims:  Miriam Janeth López Contreras, 18, Christian Iván Hernández Ontiveros, 19; Carlos Iván Torres Sotelo, 21, and Víctor Arturo Soto Calderón, 18 years old.

District Attorney Jorge Arnaldo Nava Lopez confirmed the four identifications.

A friend, who is an atty sent me a email explaining in greater depth about the sexual assault.

From Diario de Coahuila it was reported:

"Some of the bodies had a light bulb adapted for smoking crystal inserted into their bodies"

Initial investigators concluded the women were victims of sexual assault, although the medical examiner would later conclude they were not raped as defined under Mexican law. 

In the U.S., any non-consensual penetration with anything is considered "sexual assault."


Later the publication removed the report regarding the meth pipe. It could be out of respect for the families.  However in a couple of the photos, there appeared to be something inserted in the body.  Supposedly two of the three females had the pipe inserted. 

Meiby
Meiby wrote to her dead husband "baby I will always remember you and I will keep  you with me until the day that I have to leave and see you again my love♥"  02-08-96 05-28-18-posted on facebook August 1, 2018

Meiby and her husband, Jonathan Hernández Pérez, were barbers and planned to open their own business.  He taught her barbers skills. He was killed 2 mos before her.


107 comments:

  1. Cute girls shdnt got killed and much less raped or torture. R.i.p. Hope they kill the animals that did it asap.

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    1. Unless I read it wrong. It says autopsy proved they were not raped. None the less still a horrible crime

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    2. You read correctly...Day one "sources" said they were raped, day two autopsies say no.

      Day one most all media said they were raped

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    3. They were definitely raped. I saw the pictures on another site, only the women are tied up face down with their pants down to the knees.

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    4. i saw the fotos...and probably that is why the first day they assumed they were raped. BUT the autopsies proved otherwise.
      supposedly

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    5. PS the pants were not to the knees btw...they were pulled down just past the buttocks. so i don't think you saw fotos from these killings. I need to edit a foto then I will post.

      However, the female i think is Meiby, does depict something having happened to her sexually. if not human perhaps by an object. But that is just my opinion.

      that is why I said "supposedly" referring to the "autopsies".

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    6. Maybe they were raped but attackers are paying or threating people to say otherwise... After all e bcc everyone likes to portrait themselves as the good guys killing the bad on ones

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    7. So if they were UGLY girls it’s “ok” for them to get killed?????

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  2. Total bitch move to rape a woman. The world is full of so many promiscuous women. If you go about it properly they willingly give you what you want. Rape is something I could just never agree on. Sucks for the kid to someday be told both his parents were murdered. - Sol Prendido

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    1. Rape in most cases is not about sex it's about power and humiliation.

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    2. juarez has been so infamous for the rape and disappearance of women. They have some really atractive women and its a city where alot of out of state people move too, with so many people moving there you also get the worst of the worst from each state. They see all these women and cant resist taking them by force since they wouldnt stand a chance dating them and since they can get away with it they keep committing these awful things.
      People from juarez even say the original juarenzes are good people.

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    3. @9:47 Power can be had without the violence. - Sol Prendido

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    4. 11:41 in the late eighties and early nighties up to 700 thousand people moved to Juarez from places like Durango, Veracruz and even Michoacan to find work in maquilas or factories that grew in Juarez because of the recently established free trade agreement between Mexico, the U.S. and Canada. These people spacially those from Durango never liked the city and they began to throw trash and graffity the place up like never seen before among other crimes they committed.
      Original people from Juarez could do nothing to preserve the city they loved and enjoyed.

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    5. The worst criminals in Cd Juarez were FECAL's military and federal police, some headed by former Lt Col Julián Leyzaola who had already been fired from his position in BC for human rights abuses and who had been to morels to do the same and left his nemesis "El Rambo de Tijuana" in charge in Morelos to carry on with his criminality.
      Juarenses even demanded FECAL take his feces back home to Mexico City and got delivered...

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  3. I’m sure CDS is paying big money to keep this story going. I’m sure they are backing aztecas financially by now. Because this is a great opportunity to have them kill each other for cheap. And with large reward. If Juarez Cartel that is supposed to be the true boss of both of them had some brains they would remove the Linea capos that agreed to these attacks and make peace with both sets. Because they are intertwined with each other. This is easy hunting for both parties. They have each other’s information. And azteca neighborshoods are difficult to attack. Not only that. But any now if any Linea worker gets busted in the USA. Especially in Texas or New Mexico they will be easy targets. People won’t want to work for Linea. With those type of odds

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    1. Dude cds is not backing up aztecas that would be stupid and I mean really stupid

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    2. Aztecas would not go with cds, they would rather cjng, cds would be a last resort. Watch how mencho takes advantage of this situation. That's what I think anyway. Aztecas and cds are e enemies, cds back up los maxicles or raperos assesinos to take out aztecas.

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  4. Sad......RIP for these poor souls who were in the wrong place.....

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    1. Any fotos of this new Cd Juarez Casa de la Muerte?
      Just to appreciate the size of the investment.
      --pinchis linios used to do their murders in their special houses when they were State Police.

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  5. Shit, so young, . . . rest in peace. El Genio, is in hell where he belongs. Some of the young, perhaps are better off. Their killers. . . . . not yet.

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  6. Coke dealers get no sympathy, you roll with demons, no honor amoung theives, stay far far away from dope houses & those who go along - just as guilty

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    1. 9:47 and what about Meth or Heroin, or crack, or krokodyl dealers?
      --Worse, the franchise owners and their bank specialists that do their money laundering?
      Many times these small time maruchaneros are the least deserving of murder but usually the ones to die in their front lines by competitors or the police.

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    2. Not every coke dealer is a piece of shit. They are providing a service and risking their freedom and life in the process.

      It's not their fault people like to use drugs.

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    3. 6.57. Do you know the difference between right and wrong. Coke is bad and selling it is bad.

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    4. They knew the cost or consequences that go in that drug game.

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    5. Coke is no worse than booze. Do you think liquor store owners should be killed?

      The problem is the illegality, not the drugs.

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    6. 8:22 - Cocaine in its self isn't all that bad(way overrated). The problem is there isn't any kind of integrity in the drug game(with the exception of psychedelic's and canabis).

      Phelpso

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    7. 9.49 am hey don't fuck with crack, that shit is no joke, seen so many men and women laid out selling their soul for their next pipe, its fucked up. They get and deserve ZERO RESPECT. Selling your girl and kids lives out for a hit... Fuck Outa Here.

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  7. So, those 2 murdered gangsters had tatoos with Vieja Guardia Azteca but they were part of Mexicles? Aren't those 2 different rival groups?

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    1. The Vieja Guardia Azteca probably joined forces with Mexicles after breaking off with La Linea. They broke off from La Linea because Linea has no respect for Aztecas. How do we know? Because Linea hired a Mexican born and raised Azteca to lead all Aztecas in Juarez skipping over Aztecas born in Texas to do the job.
      This is how full Mexicans work. They do not trust Chicanos.

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    2. I wouldnt trust full mexicans either, they backs stab their own family for anything, girls, money , lands. Thats why mexico is so fucked up.

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    3. Aztecas and Mexicles would never join each other mortal enemies

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    4. Aztecas is a gang not a cartel...cartel members now days have no shame hopping from 1 side 1 to the other, being a gang member u die for ur gang before hopping to another...

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    5. 9.46. I'm surprised no one said that was a racist comment. There is good and bad in every country. Your dealing with a poor country where cost of living not low but wages are low. Some separate for money. Its a big problem.

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  8. Cute girls shouldnt b whoring around specially if they have kids...poor pretty girls thou

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    1. Kind of a creepy comment. Just saying.

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    2. Just saying what? Explain why you think it's creepy?

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    3. Cierto 9:55 se les pegaron las pulgas a las muchachas. Tan jóvenes y bonitas pero hacia es como les gusta a los narcos y ellas aprovechan su físico también

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  9. Evil. So much evil. These subhumans should be used for animal testing, instead of using innocent animals that are much more humans and compassionate than these lacras.

    El Martillo

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    1. Subhumans? Atrocities are committed every day around the globe but with political power and financial support from corporations!
      Wake up!

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    2. Animals are righteous,humans,fuck no,vermin

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    3. @ 6:41

      As if i didn’t know that. I’ve never said that those who pull the strings are better.

      El Martillo

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    4. @7:12

      Yeah, these filthy cucarachas are much worse than animals.

      El Martillo

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    5. El Maritllo some people have to be explained every detail. Lol. Otherwise they’re quick to add words you never said. They’re what I call clowns in the wire. - Sol Prendido

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    6. We used to go to Juarez to buy things and eat dinner, etc. Now we can't even cross the bridge for fear we will get killed too.

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    7. @Sol Prendido

      I know, right? 😂

      They get me on my nerves.

      El Martillo

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    8. Ultimately these people are unenlightened, not evil, just very, very uninformed and uncomprehending of our human situation and the consequences of their actions. One day, they will know... But not until they have paid back for every piece of the pain they have caused.

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  10. La linia y los aztecas son unas basuras de primera espero Sinaloa ya los haga gargajo esos Manes si que saben respetar y lo digo porque vivo aqui no no como otros que como apoyan a otro cartel contrario a Sinaloa quieren venir a decir que los chinolas son iguales les arde

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    1. Todos los cartels son iguales tonto.

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    2. 10:41 de que chingados hablas.. el cds mando alv al Valle de Juárez pendejo

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  11. Damm I actually met meiby before she was my cousin's friend and I found out she died on facebook because everybody was posting about it... i was aware about the massacre but i didnt know she was a victim in that massacre and that is even more crazy to believe... siempre me voy acordar de tu sonrisa dep meiby 😭😢😭

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    1. She wrote a message to her little son on his birthday, poignant under the circumstances that would end her life.

      Do you know any details of her husband's murder?

      Poor little boy, only three years old and is parentless

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    2. PS...she was reported as being an innocent yet today some reports say all 11 were retail drug dealers, mostly meth. Do you know if she was in the life?

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    3. Hey chivis and I don't know much about her husband but he was tatted up and worked as a barber so im pretty sure he was involved since he was around with a lot of thugs but as for meiby I wouldn't know if she was involved too but she was with the wrong people at the wrong place in the wrong time and that is for certain

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    4. @10:46

      I’ve seen her pictures on Facebook and damn.... she was beautiful.

      El Martillo

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    5. Thank you. I wanted to ask because of the conflicting reports, if she was an innocent that should be known. Hanging with bad people means nothing as to culpability. We don't know the circumstances. All I know she sure loved her little guy, although she questioned her role as a good mother. Little guy looks well cared for. Dressed sharpe, step up haircut, birthday celebration.

      I don't know, until proven otherwise, I won't condemn her. It is good to get a feel of her from someone who knew her. The police were so sure she was an innocent, then the next day a new story.

      As for the husband, of course tats only are meaningful if depict an affiliation. and his didn't

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    6. @4:59 girls from ciudad juarez the original ones are some of the most beautiful women around, thats why so many trashy outsiders that move in to juarez have been killing them for years, they have no chance in dating them so they take them by force.

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    7. Yeah chivis even tho I met Meiby, I still dont know the whole story of her death... I talked to some old friends there including my cousin and they are saying she was found dead elsewhere but she knew the people that got killed in this massacre... the whole story got even more complicated because this massacre somehow follows up the death of her husband and rival members from what I heard of. So after all these people were probably all involved including meiby... I dont live in Juarez but when I went there for vacation I would sometimes see her. My cousin would describe her a good friend even tho she would get into alot of drama. This past year they stopped talking because each went there seperate ways and I remember me, her, my cousin, and some other friends all went to downtown and had a really good time and lots of laughs and just doing some stupid shit which this was about 3 years ago i believe before she had her kid... time flies and many things happen

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    8. People say she was innocent, that it was her husband who was around the bad life, it was all him etc etc but Its easy to see why its assumed she was not innocent and she was involved, mostly because even if her husband is no longer around she was still there still around the people still taking the risk, the death of her husband didnt stopped her. Either way no woman, no young woman deserves this. i dont care what the autopsy says, if her pants are down against her willnits sexual asault, if they inserted an object in her its rape. May she rest in peace and my condolences to the real innocent victim, her son whos now without parents

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  12. Pobre cachorrito hopefully his life gets better

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  13. Military should just shoot the people responsible jail too easy for those scum

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  14. Racist mexicans again.

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  15. Those cute bitches would slice you open in a heartbeat.
    Never forget that!

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  16. “Intentional homicide?” I’ve never heard of “unintentional homicide.”

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    1. unintentional homicide means just that. It is while committing a crime, it intentionally results in the death of another person

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    2. Unintentional homicide is the oppisit of intentional. Google it or get a dictionary.

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    3. The key word here is “homicide.” Google that.

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    4. Its called 3rd degree murder or mansalughter in the USA

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  17. Lets face it Meiby was in a drug house getting high and not at home with her kid. This the shit your parents tell about amd you dont want to listen. I don’t get how women in general lose themselves like this after the death of their spouse when they have kids who need them more than ever. Since becoming a father a couple years ago I now understand how important it is to be in a kids life everyday. I feel bad for that little boy given the circumstances of his parents death and how he might end up repeating this cycle of lifestyle. Life aint fair for everyone which sucks majorly.

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    1. La Pelirroja was the daughter of a wealthy merchant. Obviously she didn’t lack anything growing up. And yet she turned to a life a crime as an adult. It’s really hard to tell how a person will turn out until they start making those choices on their own. The shadow of the valley is wide. And temptation is very seducing. - Sol Prendido

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    2. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/01/la-pelirroja-connection.html

      - Sol Prendido

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    3. Unfortunately for her, Meiby wound up just like La Pelirroja. Asphyxiated to death and displaying her urine-soaked hindquarters for the camera's uncompromising eye. A shameful final image for a life that could have been far better spent with only a few different choices.

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  18. El cristal es el diablo echo droga,atria energias malas ,luego ya no se necesitan chinos,que maal ,espero se aregle todo por el bien de la gente inocente.

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    1. You are damn right, that’s a drug straight out from the pits of Hell.

      El Martillo

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  19. "ruled out that they had been sexually violated." real quick you stated at the top the excerpt meaning they were not violated sexually. Yet people continue stating they were... which is it?

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  20. Meanwhile cjng is making a killing zone in guanajuato taking out marro's people up and down

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  21. Only in mexico a drug safe house where a brutal killing happened can be next door to a jail and police academy.

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  22. Off topic,see that El Tucan the Zeta was caught,he even looks like a rat,a long time Zeta,if the same guy used to ride along in a cop car at one time protected,the Z warred now he fucked

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  23. 24 people killed in Chicago in just a few hours. I know this is not related to the topic, but horrible things also happen in the USA. It's sad what happened in Mexico people have no regard for human life.

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    1. Now up to 52 shot total*

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    2. When did Chicago have 24 killed in a few hours?

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    3. @10:14. 24 shot, not killed. Check your facts before posting lurid untruths.

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    4. Sorry 5 killed I guess that makes it better.

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    5. Common Mexico again will break record, for 2018, in homicides.

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    6. Horrible things happen everywhere. The tiny island of Puerto Rico has the highest firearm death rate in the world and it’s smaller than Rhode Island.

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  24. Nothing would of happen to her if she would of been at home taking care of her child. El que anda en el fuego se quema.

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    1. AnonymousAugust 5, 2018 at 10:57 AM

      Not true, she could have tripped over something at home and hit her head, suffered trauma and died. When your time is up....it is up..... no idea what went down, but what is evident is that she was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
      kao

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  25. This really upsets me. This are savage animals. Even if the women were dealing or with dealers they did not deserve torture, rape and death.

    This is so low. No real man (or woman) would ever do this. These were pure trash animals

    My prayers to the family of the victims

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      Completely agree with you,no matter if they were dealing,did they deserve to be tied up and watch as one by one they were strangled and waited for their turn?
      Some people here have no fuckin clue,life is never black and white.Us dudes are different,violence is inside most of us,so dudes yes i can hurt them,but never could i strangle a helpless young girl(there is a difference)fuck kind of people are they that do this ?

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    2. @3:32, Ronda Rousey would disagree with your statement. She would choke the life out of you as well btw.

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  26. Pretty sure if they had been tortured decapiteted n cut in pieces this would not be so controversial n sad for a lot of people unlike being raped tortured n strangulated...sad truth

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  27. Under U.S. law and based on the same facts, a U.S. medical examiner or investigator would have concluded the women were victims of sexual assault, according to more detailed reports in Juarez media. The victims' pants were pulled down to expose their privates and there were light bulbs ("focos" according to some reports) inserted into their rectums. Maybe some of the men also suffered this indignity, but the reports are not clear. However, you can see from the attempts to censor the photographs of the two women's bodies that there was something there. I think this is what led initial investigators to conclude they had been raped.

    Some reports also stated that the women's genitals had been pierced with sharp objects. Again, under Mexican law that would not be rape, but it would be classified as sexual assault in the U.S.

    If these facts are true -- and the latest reports state that this is the case --, it is fair to say the women were the victims of sexual assault. According to statements by Juarez investigators, the light bulbs ("focos") in the rectum is intended to show that the victims were involved in dealing crystal/meth. I think this explains the discrepancy in the reports, even those from the same sources.

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  28. CLARIFICATION:

    a friend, who is an atty sent me a email explaining more about the sexual assault.

    From Diario de Coahuila they reported:

    "Some of the bodies had a light bulb adapted for smoking crystal inserted into their bodies"

    initial investigators concluded the women were victims of sexual assault, although the medical examiner would later conclude they were not raped as defined under Mexican law. In the U.S., any non-consensual penetration with anything is considered sexual assault."

    Later the publication removed the report regarding the meth pipe. It could be out of respect for the families, or that it was not factual. However as I indicated in my comment above, I did see fotos in which something appeared inserted.

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    1. Just tying to humiliate them further "here is your fuckin pipe meth head" Whole thing seems to resonate more because of the age of them and no doubt it will have tragic repercussions,so so sad

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  29. Nobody commenting here has a clue what is going on in Juarez. Not even those that are sitting courtside. You will all find out soon enough that something really fucked up is going on within one group in all of this and it is due to a realliance that would be unthought of previously but mortal enemies remain mortal enemies. I dont know the complete backstory behind this realingment of loyalties. El Genio murder should tell you something about who is comitting suicide.

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    1. STFU. Nothing mysterious is going to happen!
      What WILL happen is that Mexican drug traffickers will run the show in Juarez alone and no Mexican Americans aka Aztecas Vieja Guardia will be around. Simple mistrust/hate of Chicanos by Mexicans. The Mexican cartel leaders bite the hand that protected them. Learn history

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    2. Well can you explain about the situation then?

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    3. U sound like u know whats really is going on..why dont u help us find out?

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    4. STFU You are saying the same thing as I am, but still leaving the one key realignment in this whole killing spree that makes it news. So either you have no clue and just paraphrased my words to make yourself sound in-the-know, or just like me you aren't saying. Either way it will be known to all here sooner or later it's no mystery it's just very local.

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  30. I see these photos and its so sad so sad. Oh my God. I feel glad to be alive looking at those youngsters corpses its not good.

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  31. Rape is rape under any law. Laws in mexico are vague. Shit needs to change in that country..

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  32. This women that got killed that everyone is crying about are not innocent. You roll with thugs you will die like one too.

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  33. Same goes for male and female... play with fire you get burned.

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  34. For me, understanding this from a drug addiction point of view (heavy meth user,alcoholic, etc. Clean n sober 15 yrs),meth will make you do things you would never think of doing just to not feel the withdrawal of from running out. I've seen my share of women who have strong morals and values that have been destroyed by addiction that will do anything not to feel dope sick! Same is true for men, it's just different for women. I have done some awful things to get my next hit! So sad.

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  35. either way -dumb asses,,your watching same kill the same woud be different if you were united and killing for a commen goal,,it looks like neibours killing neibours,one time freinds killing freinds,,most of living only a few miles apart there whole lives,,if you were to all unite think of the power you would have,,your just wiping each other out,,sensless and non productive with no good outcome ever--DUMBASSES

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    1. Cabron cabron cabron... must be a helluva job moderating these comments...Hinda blunt but two the piont....
      GC

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  36. Relax they are saying, 2 fools have been caught.

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