Thursday, May 24, 2018

Tamaulipas Congress discusses approving citizens to carry firearms, in the face of rampant insecurity

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Milenio article

Subject Matter: Concealed and non concealed carrying of arms by civilians in Tamaulipas
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required

Otis: This could be a momentous decision for the people of Tamaulipas in cities such as Reynosa and Rio Bravo, who live in fear of constant running gun battles between antagonistic narcos, extortion and kidnapping. The current laws allow Mexican citizens under the constitution to keep firearms up to .38 calibre in their homes. This temporary amendment, if made, will allow them to carry arms in the street to defend their business from extortion, themselves from being kidnapped, and to assist the Police engaged in confrontations with criminals, will certainly be received with fear, but from the criminals not the ordinary citizens


Reporter: Antonio Hernandez
In the face of insecurity, opinion is divided in the Tamaulipas congress to arm men and women in the style of the old west to defend themselves from aggression, robbery or kidnapping in Tamaulipas.

The Deputy Nohemi Estrella Leal, president of the Commission for Transparency and Access to Public information, said she will insist on discussing an initiative so that civilians can repel attacks or act in defense of victims of crime, until the Police can arrive.

What is involved is that people will be able to carry weapons with permission, can only intervene when they see a crime in progress or when they are prey to a crime and only until the Police arrive.

In addition, it is also a question of having your handgun loaded, "cocked and locked", because all those carrying will help to maintain security as auxiliary police officers.




For his part, Alejandro Etienne, president of the Instructor Commission of the Congress of Tamaulipas, said that in Mexico we have had the problem of yesteryear, because people were armed, and a disarmament program was made.

 "Today conditions make this issue come back, precisely because of the inability we have had as governments of one or the other party to solve the problem of insecurity," he explained. To arm people seems to me that it is not the answer, the answer should come from the authority, from people having no need to go armed or seek to walk armed, but to solve thoroughly the problem of security.

So that is not even an option that people are looking for the use of weapons, so we have to be more effective in combating insecurity. And he concluded, there is the possibility of going armed, but it should be seen within the normative framework.

122 comments:

  1. It is about time. They should give permits to all people that meet the qualifications.

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    1. 7:57 Real Revolutions do not apply for permits...FTS.

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  2. This does throw up some items for discussion, will CdG be satisfied with going back to just trafficking drugs, and will the same concealed carry rules apply to USA citizens crossing the border to either work or visit Tamaulipas?

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    1. @otis. Why should gringos be allowed to carry and conceal in mx? They are part of the problem and not a Solution.

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    2. Otis sorry but only Mexican citizens, would be allowed to carry, unless you apply on your passport as a dual citizenship. But you can only carry a 38. We welcome you to Mexico.

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    3. I would guess no to both questions. Too much profit is made off of extortion, kidnapping, and other non-drug enterprises for CdG to want to give any of that up. And I definitely cannot see Mexico allowing Americans to carry firearms into their country.

      On the other hand, I suppose it would give them a useful scapegoat for any increase in "gun violence" due to Mexican citizens defending themselves; evil Americans abusing the law to traffic guns more easily and such.

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    4. @otis I’m a US citizen who travels to Mexico during my kids vacations or whenever. I concealed carry in the US and I also do when I travel to Mexico. Even though it’s illegal I’d personally don’t give a F.

      Now from my understanding you have to be part of a Mexican gun club for you to bring guns into Mexico.
      You still have to obey by their gun laws. ONLY FOR SPORTING EVENTS

      Allowed hand gun calibers are .380 auto, .38 and .22.
      Allowed long guns: rifles no larger the 30 caliber; shotguns 12, 20 and 410 with barrels longer than 25”

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    5. Im pretty sure if it passes it will only be for mexicans only. Its a start

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    6. It would be terrific if Americans with gun permit could carry their firearm over to Mexico. I'd go over more often. Ill admit it does feel like slippery slope.

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    7. Im pretty sure that wont work otis, unless you are a dual citizen or whatever thats called. Dont wet them panties yet mate, the U.S wouldnt allow Mexican citizens coming in with weapons into the U.S.

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    8. I think the potential impact of something like this is way overblown. Even with this or that gun, as a civilian you're still not competitive against an organized group that intends to face you. And you're not prone to killing either just because you have the tool to do so while the criminals are.

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    9. I've lived in tamuelipas on the border for 15 years. Guardia de la mania run all neighborhoods with regard to daily security , like burglary, robbery,domestic violence as there are no regular municipal police. There is very little crime of that nature because people fear the mania. They are vigilant, proactive and do a good job. What result willing arming common citizens have. In these border cities they would not stand up to local cdg or zetas with firearm. It would be suicide

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    10. I would agree to some level that assault rifles vs hand guns are not a level playing field but I think that makes more of a difference in open areas and not in urban settings.
      As regards the will of the people to police their own towns, look at the autodefensas in Michoacan, they nearly wiped out organized crime in Michoacan in a very short period of time. They started off armed with .22 rifles and shotguns.
      Also the cartels actually have very few people compared to the amount of ordinary citizens in any town. Thousands of people armed with pistols in an urban environment are certainly a match for a few trucks of sicarios that are used to dealing with unarmed people. All it takes is one man or woman to take a stand and organize for it to fan the fire.
      Like the cartels, I think some are underestimating the will of ordinary people to do the right thing in the right circumstances.

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    11. @11:07

      “@otis I’m a US citizen who travels to Mexico during my kids vacations or whenever. I concealed carry in the US and I also do when I travel to Mexico. Even though it’s illegal I’d personally don’t give a F. ”

      You are fucking crazy, man. Do you know what would happen to you if you get caught? You are seriously crazy if you do that again. You don’t wanna end in a Mexican prison, trust me.

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    12. 12:96 the AutoDefensas in Michoacan had the Mexican army and state federal and municipal police nearby "to keep order" supposedly...
      When push came to shove they arrested and imprisoned all who refused to sell out and deputies only the sellouts as polesia ruralez, that soon resumed their criminal cartel activities.
      --If they are going to promote "to arm the people or let them arm themselves", it is as stupid as arming newborn with Gerber flasks, or allowing "Americans to stand their ground" and shoot anybody if they just feel affraid or sompim'.
      On the US the gun lobby and 2nd ammendment propagandists have conveniently forgotten the part that says "..a well regulated militia..." to enable any self appointed neighborhood watch 'captain' kill and shoot dead any unarmed teenager, stage the shooting and get away with murder and impunity and now live bragging of his murder...
      Any militia must be limited to "well regulated" with legal and practical training...otherwise it is like making love, ignorantly, with a chicken, or raping somebody...

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    13. I am US and carry in Mexico. I 'd rather take my chances than have my family killed ctm

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    14. 6:13 - Yeah i totally agree. I dont let the "laws of the land" rule my life here in the U.S. and I certainly wouldnt in Mexico either. I'd rather die in a blaze of bullets than getting skinned and dismembered alive.

      Luckily, i dont have to worry about that as i wont travel south of the border. It's unfortunate, because i love Mexico and would love to go see the Mayan and Olmec ruins.

      Phelpso

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    15. Guns have never curved violence only spiked it.

      An armed society is a violent society.

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    16. 8:52 The "Gingos" see it as mexico is the problem . Mexico should install a Iron Curtain to keep these problematic gringos out . Just excommunicate them . Then Mexico could be peaceful and serine .

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    17. The US citizens who have no legal immigration status and no mex. Govt. Permit, who bring guns into Mexico, if you get caught you will go to a mexican prison for many years. Even a mexican citizen must get a permit and only applies to small caliber weapons. They are hard to get. I think this applies to carry. Im not sure if this process is required for in home defence only. The mexican constitution seems to guarantee that right. And i think it applies to permanent legal residents of mexico. Need to check this.

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    18. Every mexican port of entry on land from usa now has x ray machines as you enter into mexico. When your car is xrayed the officers should be able to see your gun. You must be one lucky guy. I suggest you go to Vegas instead!

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    19. “--If they are going to promote "to arm the people or let them arm themselves", it is as stupid as arming newborn with Gerber flasks, or allowing "Americans to stand their ground" and shoot anybody if they just feel affraid or sompim'.”

      It is not stupid. Citizens need the chance to fight back against criminals, and guess what, you can’t fight back against the cartels if you are barehanded.

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    20. Though the question is valid, it's also not reasonable. Here in the U.S., my concealed carry permit is not valid in some states that share a border- in other words, somewhere I would drive to. Why would or should it be valid across international borders? On the other hand what defense would my SIG .40 S&W provide against fully automatic weapons?

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    21. 7:28 the "cartel" to beat is the Mexican government, its army, marinas and polesias, their private security contractors, their money laundering banksters and accomplices, their legal aid program and accountants and their foreign and domestic enablers...diversions like cartel scandals, kidnappings and gossip about what beautiful fake lard as lady used to date ABL or La Chapa or "weapons for the masses" will not fix anything for a longer time, but solutions will be administered one way or another, that is the dialectics of change, no solutions apply other than fixing the problem and the problem is the Mexican government, puppets of other countries.

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    22. i swear foreign security contractors in mexico do not have mexican permits to carry weapons, but carry they do, HK are forbidden to sell in mexico but they have been found in guerrero police posession... because con dinero baila el perro

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    23. Mexicans need to pay for their own weapons expert private security guards, their 5 dollar a day minimum wage should cover the expense...with the change they buy their own weapons to help themselves.

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  3. Aint no fun when the rabbit got the gun!

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    1. 8:49 people barely have money to eat, and how come after getting rid of municipal police to solve crime on the state with federales and estatales and army and marinas and shit, there is more crime than ever, except when those "LEOS" Are cleaning out the politicians sicarios... after they get to power?
      It just looks like more shit rolling down hill

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  4. Yes, allowing carry will reduce some crime, and I would want to carry if I lived there, but will that really make a difference when their is a caravan or even a car load of bad guys out to extort or kidnap, probably not. But I don't think the gov\cartel will allow it.

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  5. Wow I am for it! But only up to 38 Cal. While the cartel hoodlums, carry AK-47S, M-16s, Bazookas, grenades, that's not a match of firepower. Might as well just equipt them with slingshots.

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    1. With my .38 SUPER (+P) 1911 and 10 rd mags along with my AR15 (.223 is .22 after all) I eould be in a level field.

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    2. 8:03 many people have your favorite brands of weapons,
      Tons of each of them, and they ain't never solved any problems in the world...even the Israelis with HUNDREDS of niukiuliar bombs or the US, China, Russia, England, with thousands get cowed by little countries with a few dozen cardboard rockets like North Korea and Pakistan or India with their rockets fill of BS...never mind the Palestinian as and Iran with their "imaginary weapons of mass distracshun".
      Better keep out of Mexico before somebody tries to stick your weapons to you where the sun don't shine.

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    3. A .357 magnum is .38 caliber and it will mutilate a person . Don't know what will be right or wrong . Maybe this propensity to violence and crime is genetic .

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    4. 2:56 genetic is a bad thing to say, Mexicans had not had a war this big until the US forged this "War on Drugs" under the Calderonato FECAL, since the Mexican Revolution got hijacked by the Sonoran Mafia that created the PRI, and that revolution was also financed by the US and directed by general Blackjack John Pershing himself helped by George Patton and Douglas MacArthur among other future war luminaries that came to kiss Pancho Villa's ass in Chihuahua...
      "genetic mexican murderers" do not go around the world spreading murder, exploitation, poverty, famine, or wars for profit, they are not that genetically advanced...

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  6. Hopefully this will give the citizens a fighting chance...

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  7. Muy Bien, Very Good, Some common sense. Wait, it will be squashed in, ...

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  8. The only Mexican senator that’s has push gun rights is from Colima; Jorge Luis Preciado.

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  9. Just will bring more violence honestly

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    1. Yes, a lot more dead bad guys.

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    2. There will be more innocent people killed, honestly.

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    3. That will be a big number then compared to the innocents killed now. What is the solution then? Because the current one isn’t working... bad guys with guns are the problem in Mexico and they do as they please with the innocent people. The death penalty would also help...

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  10. Thanks Otis,

    Do you think opening up firearms to the general public will decrease the murder rates in Mexico, or do you think its just going to pour gas on the fire?

    I absolutely think the citizens of Mexico should be able to protect themselves. But i do wonder if it might turn into complete chaos.. At the same time, Mexico is in need of a revolution, so maybe that's what needs to happen.


    Phelpso

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    1. Hi Phelpso, it may make it worse for a short period of time, but the cartels are not stupid and the law of diminishing returns means that if they start losing sicarios quickly, they will realise it is not worth the bother. I dont see this spreading to all of Mexico, but in places like Tamaulipas, where a narco government have rules for nearly 30 years or more, this may be the only option left.

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    2. Take all present police officers, melitary and mercenary private guards out of the state, then let the people fend by themselves, that way the police will never arrive to back up their grameros, car washers, hawks and hoes working for the .
      maruchan and to supplement for the frosting on the cake with kidnapping for ransom and assaults on innocent people.

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    3. I believe it is already at complete Chaos.

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  11. The only way this will ever work is if the entire state and or country has a reliable working database that allows effective background checks to be performed on interested individuals just like here in the states. Even though background checks are not enough sometimes it is a start at least.

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  12. I believe one can have a .380 not a .38.. definitely two different rounds. Also limited to home use with a permit of course.

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    1. Yep .380 is an auto round and .38 is a rimmed wheel gun cartridge. But if guns are allowed to be carried, I think they may allow calibers larger than this. The Mex Police carry nine mil, among other calibers, and the article states that the people will be acting as auxillary Police.

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    2. That auxiliary police ready sick and tired solution was already tried when thousands of police officers were kicked out by purges that allowed only those that passed their "examinations" on mexico city by Summa Cum Laughable graduate of 30 years of police kidnapper for ransom, assassin drug trafficking extorted of other drug traffickers and crime scene stager Genarco Garcia Luna of the FECAL ERA and business partner of Carlos Slim Helu... good luck with the neo-auxiliarez, they will replace the famous Poli-zetas

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    3. Definitely at least a 9mm. But heck, anything at this point will help.

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  13. Outside citizens for sure won't be allowed.

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    1. Could the Mex Government deny visitors the right to protect themselves and their lives in the same manner as Mexican citizens? That could be pandoras box right there.
      Town that are strangled financially due to extortion and lack of income from tourism and visitors, would benefit if USA citizens felt safer to visit their relatives, as stated by some posts on the subject. If the extortion goes away, business may thrive, and increased revenues would benefit the whole state of Tamaulipas.

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    2. If foreigners get in some pedo, they will be arrested and imprisoned until they pay a big thick stack of billers Verdes or prove their innocense, it may take some 10 years to get their case dismissed or probation aND wi have paid some hundreds of thousands of dollars for the watery beans and tortillas every other day, the worms around the toilets are tasty roasted...

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  14. Mexico and Brazil have some of the most restrictive regulations concerning ownership/carrying by licenced and law abiding citizens and both remain shining examples that gun control works ! :/

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    1. You compare gun control in third world countries to non gun control in the States.
      Look at Japan, Korea, European first world countries or even China who might no longer be from the third world and see how effective gun control is.

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  15. This is a great step forward for the people but the limited caliber sucks. Either way it's long overdue that the people can defend themselves.

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    1. .177 bb guns need no carry permits, try one

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  16. Arming citizens is a start.

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  17. Finally Mexico is making the drastic changes it needs. Hopefully we'll start seeing videos like in Brazil where armed citizens take out robbers. Drug dealers and corrupt politicians should be afraid if this passes.

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  18. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Yes about time

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    1. 2:49 no mames güey,
      what is needed is more honesty in government not more sicario wannabes on the street.

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  19. Arriva Don Alejo Garza Tamez

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    1. A True Mexican Hero. I have much Respect for him. A real Man. U can die on ur knees r die fighting and take some of the SOB's with u. CTM

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    2. If you are old enough to care more for death on your feet you are welcome, but not everybody is hungry for the conflict.

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    3. @7:46pm. This is not about hunger for conflict but understanding the difference between what we want to do and what we “need” to do. Sometimes you gotta roll your sleeve up and get a little bloody. Will their be violence? Absolutely, a lot of deaths? Yup, at first but when the dust settles it will be a new day

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    4. 9:52 i need to stay out of mexico right now...

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    5. U r right i need go back to country of my parents and fight for freedom. God Bless Mexico. Houston

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  20. ITS ABOUT TIME, LET THE PROPLE CARRY FIREARMS......DEATH PENALTY NEXT FOR ANY MURDER....CRIME WILL GO DOWN 80%

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    1. Please don't yell!
      Chivas does not like that or anyone else

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    2. 1/2 a million deaths say the death penalty exists in mexico, much of it enhanced with torture rape, murder, dismemberment and disappearances, and the indispensable impunity for the melitary no matter how big their fuck-ups or how much the intentional.

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  21. Simple solution. All those confiscated guns with serial numbers should be given to business owners and anyone member of the public that feels they need to have protection for free. Registration required. Bullets included. Let's see the crime numbers drop when they know that they can't get away with easy money.
    OJ

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    1. 6:07 you know what an armed people can do, du yu?
      The animals will murder all the politicians and law enforcement, you know you can't trust the animals, then who will govern?

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  22. The criminals can easily exploit this law themselves..

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    1. Say what? Them fuckers dont give a shit either way. They ride around in convoys armed to the teeth right now. How would it be any different other than citizens having a fighting chance?

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    2. They would think twice before running in a house and kidnapping someone.

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  23. It would be very good decision !

    So not only the bad guys are armed,
    now the good guys can defend themselves.

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    1. A few pendejos with .22 Cal guns tried to start the Mexican. RevoLuton in the 70s, they are all dead except dor a few dreamers and PRD "El Tragabalas" Zambrano of the liga communist 23 de septiembre...they did not even have bullets to reload their 'gueapons', and now these gin uses want to fix a hit wit gun permits...looks like Chicago Pride Day Parade briefcase line dancers, but ok...

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  24. No! They cant! If law abiding citizens have the right to carry firearms then there could be a school shooting! Think of the CHILDREN!

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    1. Na dont think so that's mostly in the USA

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    2. School shootings occur in gun free zones... just like all of the shootings in Tamps are in gun free zones...

      GC

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    3. In the Czech Republic many, many citizens are armed, and yet you don’t see school shootings, because they have a license, it’s not like in the USA where in many states you can buy a gun without permit or registration.

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  25. Very wise decision. I believe this will greatly reduce crime but I have one question....where will the citizens be able to buy their guns and ammo? Will new shops open up? Will the citizens be allowed to unite their own version of NRA? Se van acavar los malandrines porque van a corer como coyotes con la cola entre las piernas.
    Muy Buena decision. Felizidades si es que se ase.

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    1. 9:46 you know perfecly, the polesias and marinas have A WHOLE LOTTA WEAPONS in their evidence rooms, and need any excuuuse to sell them away, even the Gold Plated ones,
      Imagine, sombuddy will chop off El chapo's gun, gold plate and sell it on the flea market.

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  26. I cant imagine any country to allow a foreigner to carry a weapon without special circumstances . I would rule out tourist carrying weapons from the get go . There will be circumstances that criminals occasionally find it easier to carry . If you assess it on statists and averages I think the legalization will over all be better for Mexican people . There will always be the protests than "my son wouldn't have been killed " or "my son wouldn't have killed if not for this law .

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    1. Idiots think all legal gun owners join NRA.

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    2. 6:18 will that NRA/Mexico be financed by the Russians too?

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  28. Unleash the death dealers. Amen to that. - Sol Prendido

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    1. 6:28 they will more completely surround their prey on all flanks Sol, that is not supposed to happen, remember Little Big Horn and scalp the motherfakers a pedradas.

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  29. I am a permanent resident living in Mexico. I would sure like to be able to carry in Mexico. It would sure allow me to get out more freely and feel safer. I have had to many friends killed, robbed, kidnapped and extorted here. The people I hang with are good people. Not people that deserved anything. Bad people just wanting what they have, and wanting them to use their positions to help them steal from employers and others. If you do not play along you or family members die.

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  30. You think this good solution will pass? No Mexico wants the Cartels to rule, they want corruption to continue. If though it sounds an excellent idea. I am not god, but it's predictable, that they will kill the messenger. Mexico is a quagmire, no one wants things to improve, innocent people will continue to be killed.

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    1. im worried what the future has for Mexico. Since Calderon declared war on cartels, everything that is national security went downhill. That was 11 years ago and the politicos can not figure out how to keep citizens safe. WTF is this young generation of Mexicans who are perversly witness to the narco war do you think they are going into adulthood singing world peace and hugs not hate.. jajajaja..... The evil seed has been planted.. once you leave the "touristy" beaches and get into the real country ,if you dare its Mad Max survival of the fittest. So you are correct more blood will be let.

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  31. Create a criminal database similar to the US
    Open up the gun market because you can only obtain guns in Mexico 2 different ways.
    Mexican army armory in Mexico City
    Or
    Private sale

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  32. Trying again posting
    Having read the proposal for citizens to carry firearms can be a double edged sword. With so much violence and homicide at an all time rate. The end result can have a dire impact with the carelessness of firearms usage.
    The United States has an issue with gun control already. Mass shootings in schools and people going postal.
    The thought would be ideal if no accidental shootings and deaths were guaranteed.
    However, to believe that citizens would help and assist policing to curb the violence is not credible. Rather, an increase of deaths among politicians and government officials for their criminal involvement. Which is definitely not in governments best interests.
    Moreover, the increase of terrorism by those cartels towards communities who defy them.
    Citizens should not have to bear the duties and responsibilities of paid government / municipal officials to eradicate their problems. Problems which they alone are responsible for.
    Permits who can and are eligible to carry will result with officials who may be biased against those who oppose their political interests.
    Adding more guns will result with more deaths. This is clearly evident.
    Suggest a trustworthy exam for all who work for their constituents. There lies the solution to the majority of the issues facing Mexico today!

    E42

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    1. @E42

      The cartels are already doing terrorism, if citizens are able to defend themselves they are going to have a really bad time. Don’t view them like invincible villains; they are not.

      The proof is that autodefensas managed to clean up many cities, and autodefensas are armed citizens.

      Do you think the cartels would be able to do what they do in Mexico if they tried it in, say, Texas?

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    2. Your opinion is way to negative. Of course there will be more deaths that's because citizens will be defending themselves. "Suggest a trustworthy exam" exam for what physical exam? shooting range exam? grammar exam? Your opinion is too negative and confusing. Can't be worst than it already is.

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    3. Learn to read first before posting.The proposal is for self protection not to police the country....

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    4. 4:14 the country IS being policed by everybody right now, just trying to catch sombuddy trying to find you unawares to kidnap the psychotic Mexicans imagining their precious ass is being watched, I mean for kidnapping, not just because sumbady wants to watch their mosquero even if it is so not sexy...
      (The mosquero is the fly trap, usually found the target of swarms of flies)

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  33. Let the Mx citizens have guns for protection. Give them out for free with a background check like the US. Better than free tvs b4 the elections to buy votes. Also any tourist with a coceal and carry gun license should also be allowed. The cucarachas only kill innocents who can't defend themselves.However the corrupt government won't let it happen.

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  34. Just got car permit. Expensive. Matamoros.deposit $200 i get that back. Another $89.00 for permits i won't get back

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  35. Meanwhile in Nuevo Laredo, a dead family of 9 bodies was found in a house with a letter reading “THIS IS NO JOKE” ...

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    1. That happened last year and what does that have to do with this story.

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    2. It has everything to do with this story about legitimate self defense measures allowing law abiding citizens the right to carry weapons.

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    3. 9:11 Tell that crap of legitimate defense to the Judge,
      But he will need a few thousands of dollars to clean the wax off his ears to be able to listen tu yu...

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  36. I don't know if I trust this proposal. It feels like a slip and slide.

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  37. Halcones listen. Sicarios walk in at night with cuernos and take arms and ammunition then collect piso and leave. A few dead alcaldes due to generations of feuding? The Secretary of Suguro Publica, the PGR and the Interior Secretary will never allow this. This is steam escaping nothing more.

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    1. @12:28
      What’s not steam escaping is AMLO’s proposal for Amnesty for the criminals. Thousands of killers and their capos who are why this discussion is taking place.
      Can it be a gesture of good will to its citizens to arm itself against these criminals in the near future? This falsehood of security is all SHOW for its people.

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    2. AMLO IS NOT DECRIMINALIZING CRIME, you need to read his Manifesto again, what is decriminalized is possession for personal use and addiction, but probably stop the kingpin persecution War on Drugs using the military armed forces that go around kidnapping and murdering and raping because it is all perks of the job with impunity,
      I am sure the amesty includes INNOCENT PEOPLE that have been extra-judiciarily executed on sight because an illiterate bunch of soldiers or marinas decided to shoot them up...

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    3. 1:35 the campaign to demonize AMLO just won't let go, deminizing "the left" has cost the world millions and millions of death, it has cost the US taxpayers trillions and trillions of dollars and has earned the profiteers trillions and trillions and more trillions from the worldl's victims of their greed, now they are even best friends with the worst of the worst Russian oligarchs...
      --AMLO has cost them NOTHING, YET...
      --hope it is not too hard for you to understand.

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  38. Sicarios are going down, don't try to blend in,with the innocent people you will be found, and shot up to pieces.Time to pay the Piper.

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  39. Up to .38 caliber means .380 acp and .38 special according to mexican law (yes very stupid). .38 super, contrary to popular belief, is on top of the list of prohibited calibers in mexico and has been banned since the late 60's.

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  40. what about shooting in laredo texas https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/25/us/texas-border-patrol-shooting/index.html

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  41. The mexican goverment is bullshitting the mexican citizens. If mexico wanted to stop the bullshit they need to simply unleash the marines on one entire cartel at a time. Any soldier that might be corrupt fire him without any moneys and any soldier that gets involved with a cartel life in prison automatic. But the mexican goverment will sell their mamas assholes for money so shit aint going to change no time soon.

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  42. So is tamaulipas govern by the pri(their right winger) or Pan(their also right winger) I keep forgetting. I know Morena is a left winger.

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  43. Menchos wife just got capture I’m between jalisco and Colima

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    1. Ur completely rite they just missed mencho. Mayo and quentero are moving in all menchos crew in hiding

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  44. arrestaron ala esposa del mencho en zapopan ya le anda cerca la lumbre JAGL.

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  45. Mencho wife got arrested. Mayo making move on mencho. U heard it first. El talb

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  46. Where is Cantinflas when we need him?

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  47. Some of you guys... you and the Mexican government really are debating (or pretending to) whether arming yourselves against people who chop humans into stew and burn them alive is really a good idea. It is!! Americans are armed to the teeth and we don't have this going on. Our streets are far safer. The cartels would be destroyed quickly if they attempted Mexican style violence on our streets en masse as they do. I have six AKs at home- I will never be disarmed. Don't over think it- it is the right decision and it works. The Mexican people need a Second Amendment but the corrupt officials know full well that if they have that then they will have a nation of citizens and not serfs, and they fear that!

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