Sunday, May 20, 2018

Sonora/Chihuahua: Confrontations Between Narco Groups Cause Panic

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: Diario.mx


Extra Material from: El Herald de Chihuahua By: David Pinon May 20, 2018
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A confrontation occurred between Yécora and Maycoba communities located in the limits of the state of Sonora near the border with Chihuahua, left a balance of five dead and 11 vehicles damaged, mostly burned. 

The confrontation was recorded on Wednesday night and into Thursday morning when an armed group from Chihuahua tried to enter Sonora, hours before Carlos Arturo Quntana, alias "El 80", 35, and leader of "La Línea", was captured in  the western region of the state, which reinforced the police presence within the limits of both states. 

Yesterday, it was announced that the Secretariat of Public Security (SSP) of Sonora, in coordination with the Mexican Army, increased intelligence and operational tactics by air and by foot  in the mountainous area of ​​Yécora.


After the shooting, inhabitants of the region reported the deaths of at least five people and more than a dozen cars burned in gaps and roads, in which multiple impacts were observed by firearm projectiles. 

Adolfo García Morales, head of the Sonora SSP, reported that ground and air travel is carried out with aircraft of the Mexican Army and the State Government to discourage the presence of these criminal groups. 

"We are shielding the areas with population, since the best interest is to protect the citizens and that they feels safe against possible confrontations due to rumors of a possible entrance of an organized crime group from Chihuahua."

He added that patrols are being carried out in the region to maintain presence and not give space to the entry of organized crime groups in Chihuahua, after the operation by the Federal Police and the National Defense Secretariat (Sedena), which on Thursday past resulted in the capture of the leader of drug trafficking in the municipalities of Namiquipa, Bachíniva, Matachí, Santa Ana , Soto Máynez, Babícora, Buenaventura and Ignacio Zaragoza. 

García Morales reiterated that in that mountainous area bordering Chihuahua, recently there was a confrontation on the side of Chihuahua State line, since these criminal cells are looking for unpopulated areas or with a small population to carry out the transfer of drugs.


The same day of the capture of Caralos Arturo Quintana "El 80", in Namiquipa, there was a confrontation between members of "La Línea " and the Sinaloa cartel in the limits of Madera, which led to the semi-paralysis of activities in the Dolores mine , since for both days both groups maintain presence in the region and the employees have not been able to leave their place of work.


The clash last Thursday, which left as official balance two deaths, but there are reports that the criminals picked up other bodies, which happened on the road to Yepachi and was the last of several that have been recorded in recent weeks, which is scaring hundreds of employees of the mining company, who work shifts of 14 days of work for 7 days of rest, generally to travel to their places of origin, outside this municipality.

On the road that leads to Yepachi, which is on the border of Chihuahua with the state of Sonora, during the morning of Thursday, several gunmen were shot on the road, the participating groups were the Sinaloa Cartel through the cell  controlled by Roberto Soto, "El Jaguar" and the Juarez Cartel, through "Los Linces", a group of "La Línea".

Photographs and videos of that day, captured by people who were driving along the road hours after the scuffle, account for two bodies, firearms, grenades, cartridges and seven damaged units, with samples of bullets and even one burned, which was armored with steel in some parts to avoid bullet impacts.

According to residents, the confrontation lasted almost an hour in a section of several kilometers of the road, where the agents of the Federal Police and the Army took about two hours to arrive. Agents also arrived stationed in the Sonora limits, in the same region that both groups dispute.

Officially, the Attorney General's Office did not report the facts, nor did military or federal authorities, but corporate personnel took the next 5 hours to collect the evidence and move the vehicles to wooden corrals to secure them.

The burned unit was able to consume some grasslands that were captured in the videos of people passing through the place, while in turn there were bodies thrown away, some with military-type clothing, which are accessories commonly used by criminals, as well as the armored vehicles.


Psychosis in Dolores Mine

The Dolores Mine, within the municipality of Madera, Chihuahua was partially closed after detecting the presence of criminal groups that have taken the accesses and have unleashed several clashes in recent days, on the exit road to Cuauhtémoc, Temósachic and other towns.


According to workers who were in the mine until yesterday, they have not been able to leave because they have received threats to the plant that they are going to kill employees who supposedly work for one of the groups that are fighting over the territory, "El Jaguar "and " El Linea ", so those who are on their days off have not been able or wanted to return to their jobs and those who are working their regular shifts and are do for their days off  have not wanted to leave the mine facilities because the area is being "patrolled " by the warring  groups.

"The managers of the mine enter and leave by air, but they do not take care of us, they ignore our fears, we are cornered and we do not know what to do, who to turn to, because here there is no government that exists," said one of the workers. but who can not leave the facilities because of the threats that exist and the presence of criminal groups.


The employees have contacted their relatives in Chihuahua and Cuauhtémoc and have asked them to request assistance from the authorities.

Both employees and relatives, who ask to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, assured that this new dispute is also related to the operation of the Dolores Mine, where the workers have had to suspend work in the face of this strong armed confrontation, as they can not leave the labor area in the presence of armed groups.

In recent weeks, the miners say that the two groups have begun to harass employees, the area of ​​the mining complex is supposedly the territory of one gang which is now being disputed; the miners claim they have been threatened that they may get caught up in the crossfire of the warring factions.

The environment of insecurity is scaring away the workers of the mine, who prefer not to leave the municipality in the face of constant confrontations and threats that arise between the antagonistic groups, in addition to sustaining the fear that one day they will be affected by these attacks due to lack of control.

Executives of Pan American Silver mining company, have not commented on their position on the events or the semi paralization of mining activities in the camp, and they do not have representative offices in Chihuahua. As for the miners: "We live here in this place".


Social Media Threats

On May 15, a user of social networks posted a threatening message against "the gangs that work in the Dolores Mine" and stated that he would "clean up his area, including all the pigs in La Gente Nueva ", which led to the two-day clash of what was announced on the internet by the supposed member of "La Línea ".


This message increased the psychosis in the region and then, on the 17th, the confrontation took place, after weeks of reports that the area was patrolled with large convoys of the two groups with impunity and shoot at the least provocation or intimidate civilians who must circulate in the region.

56 comments:

  1. If fuckin Sinaloa has hours long battles with La Linea that means La Linea remains strong with a lot of troops. If this was not the case then their confrontations would not last as long of course.
    Government is allowing Sinaloa to take over Chihuahua of course!

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    1. Does the military have a training base out in chihuahua?

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    2. 5:12 PM thats right even after 10 years of fighting off the thousands of military/feds and the sinaloa cartel and thier allies from sonora/durango, and losing 3 or 4 leaders they are still strong and still fighting

      Puro Chihuahua!

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    3. Arriba Chihuahua y toda la gente bonita. Que se pudran los feos. Al 100 🍎

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  2. What mining corporation is working out there?
    I got a cousin who is working for a mine out in Zacatecas, he claims good pay and no insecurity.

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    1. PAN American Mining Corp.

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    2. Corruption at its finest!

      Another Canadian corporation who gives zero F about its lower tier employees.

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    3. Salazares are baggage handlers, and I doubt Adelmo would go after La Línea buy himself, if they came into his territory then los memos would act accordingly.

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    4. Como me dijiisté?!! guebero cacha de cuero

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  3. La Línea dogs,stay out of Sonora before you get got like el 80.

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    1. They got shut down quick. CDS maybe? Los Salazar or Memos control that area

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    2. Los Salazar and Los Memos are both independent groups. Yea they’ve worked with Sinaloa before but they are not under the cds flag.

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  4. The top financial operators of the viagras or nueva familia michoacana got hit in morelia in a restaurant. Also a member of semar complained to reynosacodigo rojo that his bosses were being paid by the matamoros grupo escorpion to hand over any metro faction members detained to the matamoros faction instead of locking them up. He complained the semar leaders took the money sent them to their families and gave the semar runts scraps to do the dirty work. As soon as el 80 was cought rivals wld attack. Also did anyone see them truck drivers that got busted with 90 million of liquid meth. They never going to be free again lol.

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    1. The 90 million dollars of liquid meth was in NC. I live like 20-30 minutes from where happened.

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    2. Oh, they are going to be free. Free to sing their little hearts out.

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  5. So these battles on the western part of the state, are they an indication that GN is getting kicked out of Chihuahua by the Linea. Or is Gente Nueva trying to push further into state. Just in combat terms La Linea has gave them war and i see they mean serious about defending territory. So La linea is a big group , Chihuahua is a big state and can somebody tell us what areas are controlled by what group. And i have traveled in bus through Chihuahua, and what a beautiful state and those hills with the cattle grazing... lovely.

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    1. Obvious guy, how that name doesn’t fit you at all. Did you not read the article? El 80 from linea got caught yesterday and shortly after El Jaguar from CDS and Gente Nueva started attacking Los linces aka La Linea. When your enemy just lost their leader is the perfect time to strike and try to eliminate them, that’s basic

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    2. 11:10.. yes i have been aware of 80.. what i have been doing my own research but not much info is available as to the positioning of who controls which area of Chihuahua. And the crown jewel Juarez. ive been aware since the narco war started. So the disputed area has always been that area of the Sierra where Durango ,Sinaloa,Chihuahua meet. But i do remember Sinaloa attacking in Juarez years ago. Is Sinaloa only making attacks into CF territory or do they actually control any area out of Bocoyna, Creel etc.etc. ???

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    3. Linea was feeling the heat so their gunmen drove off the mountains and into Sonora where they were met with bullets, meaning in the mind of the foot soldier they are pretty much screwed and by themselves

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    4. they will regroup as in all battle, again some will die, most will live to fight another day- the mind of a foot soldier

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  6. Gente nueva was waitin for them

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    1. I heard that it was the gente nueva that got smashed. I heard Martin aka "TIN" that controls all of Sonora was involved and was injured very badly.

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  7. RCQ is finished, now that the U.S. put him on the FBI list, his days are numbered

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    1. you're dumb if you think he's done. Grab a book and read what the CIA did. They were the ones that set up Kiki. They knew what was down at Caro's ranch. That's why he was never extradited.

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    2. espero que el nuevo presidente de mexico lo deje en paz y el gobierno lo deje de buscar y la dea pues se va a quedar queriendo.JAGL

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  8. These may not be drug traffickers but contortionists trying to extort the mining co.
    Different mining unions get their claws on one job and then want exclusive rights to the Union like hijuesuputamadre Pavon charro leaderfrom.fresnillo or the eternal charro leader but better behaved and more experienced napoleon gomez urrutia, heir of one hundred years of mining sindicalisn from his daddy Napoleón Gomez Sada, from the monterrey mafia.
    The sure shot is that the army and police are there because of the mine management called them and they don'the give a cap about the miners, the schedule or their days off.

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  9. yecora era la plaza del chupon 020, gente de los salazar pero tenia respaldo de la gente de m100.

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    1. ya se lo chingaron al compa.. después de la muerte del R5 todo se fue para abajo.

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  10. Those Pemex stations out in Yecora, out in the middle of nowwhere. Must be owned by narcos

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  11. So I read the article on el diario and blb. Who got amushed? It does not specifically say who was who. Does anyone know who the dead sicarios and burnt vehicles belong to?

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    1. The dead scairios are from Blem, sorry they did not make it. There was nothing the hospital can do to revive him.

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    2. Blem?
      who's that

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  12. From articles have been saying seems La linea is pushing into sonora the way cds was doing to chihuas

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  13. Alfredo's man has a pact with CDG, take what his father never could Sonora and then send 200 men to help fight off Z. Word is he paid the Army commander $7M to have 80 caught. Good investment

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    1. ellos A. dicen que él es el verdadero líder

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    2. If that's true why wouldn't Alfredo just pay the rest to finish the job? Just a question

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    3. What Alfredo? Guzman? Beltran?

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    4. Alfredo who?

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  14. cds culos and their buddies from sonora and durango couldn't take El Estado Grande from La Linea with the help of the mexican miliatry, a federal and local state government and u.s intel agencies in an almost 10 year long war, what makes them think they can accomplish the mission now??? Because of the capture of 1 leader hahaha?? I don't think so.

    3 or 4 Linea leaders have been caught in this 10 year long war and La Linea is still here. The military/police may be used to strike La Linea like they have been doing for almost 10 years now, but the results will be the same. The Chihuahuense people in general are a proud people.

    10 fucking years of war in Chiwas. A military/federal gov invasion of 10,000 plus soldiers and feds + an Invasion of the
    "the most powerful" cartel in mexico (hahahahaha) and their allies and they have failed for the past 10 years, thats why they are still fighting today! In war the objective is to win, not fight it till the end of fucking time.

    All this death and destruction because the little chapito wanted a little more money and it was all for nothing. And the cds just keeps pouring money, mens lives and time into a war they can NEVER win.

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    1. You wanna talk about being proud .. tell me why would you be proud of a group of hooligans that rape, extort, kidnap and murder innocents throughout the state of chihuahua ... some fucking pride ... my family is from Guachochi and everyone there supports CDS because no andan con Esas mamadas de chingar gente innocente como las Ratas de la linia ... how many times do ppl have to tell you kid, ppl from Chihuahua are the ones involved with CDS just like la linia has sinaloenses in their ranks ... state pride means nothing to these assholes .. it’s only important to little kids that don’t understand they dynamics of the drug war

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    2. You are wrong kid/(cheerleader mas bien), cds do fuck with innocent people, aqui en la region de Delicias la gente nueva(gente pendeja mas bien) andavan robando nuezes y robandole las trocas a la gente y quien save que mas mamadas

      http://diario.mx/Estado/2013-03-09_23b734d6/presentan-a-grupo-armado-detenido-en-rosales/

      Ahora que tienes que decir cheerleader????????? Just because their corridos say it, it doesn't mean its true (like little chapito having hundreds of bodyguards with him at all times. hahahahaha)

      if its true that the people from guachochi are cds dickriders like people from sonora and durango, pues que verguenza, la verdad.

      You're also wrong about the state pride thing, it may not be the focus of the drug war, but it does factor in, EVERY TIME some says "puro" whaterever state they are from, in any other state then the state they are from, well if you are mexican and/or have ever lived in mexico then you know that shit is not taken kindly or lightly. Even common citizens have killed each other over that shit.

      Juarez Wasn't labeled "The Most Dangerous city in the WORLD" because of the CDJ and La Linea, Juarez got labled that ONLY and ONLY after the invasion of thousands of military, feds and your personal heroes and idols el cartel de snitchaloa and their gente pendeja. your gods are the ones what are ATTACKING and sending sicarios into Chiwas for the last 10 years and causing death/destruction. NCDJ and La Linea have been killing them and DEFENDING for the Last 10 years

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    3. @5:22 Pinchi lepe pendejo... ya deja de decir tanta mamada... tu no mas saves lo que lees en el internet... pesos por toston que ni en chihuas vives pendejito .. las cosas no son como las cuentas ... aqui la raza siempre va ha seguir al cartel que ofresca mas Féria ... la raza de chihuahua nos importan los billetes y no mamadas de ke tal corrido dice esto y ke este otro corrido cuenta esto... deja de escuchar mamadas pendejito y deja de ver la narconovela de El Señor de Los Cielos, estudia, aprende, deja de ser niño y por favor ya no comentes pendejadas que La Linea le hiso frente al CDS y a 10000 soldados ... si vivieras aqui en chihuahua Durante el 2010 te darias cuenta que los linieros andavan escondiendose como ratas cuando llegaron los guachos ... acepta que la mitad del estado esta con el CDS y la otra con la linia, acepta que eres un pendejo hablador, y por favor deja de escribir mamadas aqui que no mas estas quemando a mi raza de chihuahua pareces niña peleando pa que digan que eres la mas Bonita ...

      Puro Chihuahua !

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    4. @6:16 si es sierto pa Delicias Rosales Saucillo y Conchos la gente nueva ha sido un desmadre la fam. Gandarilla Garcia.. al rato llegan los lineros de meoqui

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  15. People from el triangulo Dorado are crazy ass gun men les vale la vida son gente con mucho valor i agallas arriva sinaloa chiguagua i durango

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    1. Sooo arriva blo cds y Ncdj??

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    2. They are all from those 3 states they were all friends and family years ago before the war you understand now?

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    3. Too much corridos my friend, I met many cowards from THERE, specially sinaloas ALL talk

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    4. @3:23 ... I wish you’d come to Gpe y Calvo Chihuahua you little runt ... right in the heart of the TDO and real close to Badiraguato see if the locals don’t make you swallow your words and a little something else too ... Chihuahua Durango and Sinaloa regions breed the toughest men coming out of Mexico ... you must be a michoacaca or a jaliskilla or a lowly tamaulimeco

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  16. To 3:59 am I am from Gomez f. Chihuahua and yes we have lived with both cds and la linea. La linea are part of our families we all went to school together we all get along. The people there from Sinaloa have always hidden in the cities were they can blend in. Reason they go to the cities to blend in is so that at night they come out to work either work moving product or heat up the plaza. They hide you never hear of them saying they are from Sinaloa. Because they know they don't belong there and if found state police which la linea has always controlled finds them well you know. But yeah I call bull shit on every thing you said. We people from chihuahua are proud of our state that will be the day we look up to a skinny midgets with sandels on and big buckle 😜. In chihuahua we are strong our state our home our families. Fyi if you are going to look up to some one look up to your mom and dad your family not midgets from out of state who want to take your mind and state.

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    1. That state pride shit is ignorant!

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    2. 4:24 PM. No, Its Mexican Culture kid, since these are mexican cartels, fighting in mexico, by mexicans, if you believe it does not factor in then you are the ignorant one

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    3. @9:31
      No sir.
      With all due respect these cartel scumbags don't have any pride in their country, nor their community ... much less would they care about"state pride" ... only cartel fanboys believe that this war is about state pride... please ... get real

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    4. I don’t get it .. in other comments you say that CDS runs around chihuas yelling “puro Sinaloa” and now you claim that they hide in the city and blend in to avoid being detected .. can you make up your stupid mind you ignorant child ... everything that comes out of your mouth is garbage and fake news

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    5. Most mexican drug wars are mostly about making the Maruchan.
      The ones making some money do not really share it down with the maruchan rabble, except Sinaloa has always paid better.

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  17. Hey, I just read elsewhere that some guards at the Delores mine were killed. Anybody know anything?

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