Friday, May 4, 2018

Flashback asking: Is Mencho replacing Chapo as Drug Cartel King?

by Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat from BB Archives

I wrote this article in 2014, when El Mencho and CJNG was not more than a blip in the news but in my perspective a grave concern for Mexico that was headed in becoming an even greater threat than any capo who came before him.  I have never been a proponent of the “catch the capo” theory; it has proven to be a failed concept causing violence and perhaps rise to an even greater evil.  That was my mindset when writing this, four years ago,  at a time not much information was available, and his name was not a mainstay in the media......


He has the reputation of being intelligent, calculating, and a criminal visionary, he is in the lofty caliber of leader  that Chapo Guzman is. He is thought of as the leading candidate to become the new "Mexican drug king", he is; Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes aka "El Mencho".

According to information from the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), says the leader of the Jalisco New Generation cartel [CJNG] has exponentially increased his power and territory. 

Recent mantas support that theory.

In my opinion, today, the CJNG cartel is Mexico’s biggest national security threat.  Two years ago Mencho was not among the 10 most wanted list, he now is.

For years he was a  lieutenant of different groups, including Los Valencia of the Milenio cartel. He proved to be skillful and talented, within the organized crime business.  He was able to sell protection to other powerful leaders of drug trafficking, such as is Rafael Caro Quintero, who Mencho allegedly offered his services when Quintero  was released from  the Prison Puente Grande.

CJNG was founded in 2009-2010, after the Mexican army killed Ignacio Coronel Villarreal, one of the top leaders of the Sinaloa cartel, in Zapopan Jalisco.

The group, originally created to benefit Chapo Guzman, the imprisoned leader of the Sinaloa Cartel.

Chapo commissioned the group as a Sinaloa branch of enforcers, who primarily focused  on the the elimination of Zetas in Jalisco and Veracruz. Hence the name, they were tagged with "Los Matazetas", [The Zeta Killers].



In case one forgets the brutality of Mencho, one need only to think back to the fall of 2011.

Few that follow the Mexican drug war, can forget in September, 2011, the 35 tortured and executed bodies dumped on a busy highway in Boca del Rio, Veracruz.

That was the work of Mencho's group. 

Mencho, working with other Sinaloa Cartel people, have moved into Veracruz specifically to replace Los Zetas and control the drug and human trafficking state.

The narco mantas left at the scene, stated the group was present in Veracruz to eliminate Los Zetas, the message declared 35 were Zetas.

But they were not Zetas, they were innocents, citizens that had no links to organized crime, teachers, students, housewives, a decorated police officer.  Innocents selected randomly to be a part of staged theater, used for emphasis in a message sent by Mencho.

Soon the truth would be revealed, that in fact none of the dead had ties to organized crime and almost none had criminal records of serious crimes.  Six had records of minor violations, such as fighting or stealing, and one was suspected of a serious crime which had no link to organized crime.

Mencho achieved his goal.  Worldwide attention was focused on the group that came to Veracruz to eliminate the Zetas Cartel.  The worldwide press ran the photos of the 35 bodies, but failed to correct the story when it was known the 35 were innocents, and not criminals.  

Or that 100% of the Boca del Rio police force was fired, and the department was taken over by the federal government.  100% of the force failed polys or refused to be tested and were found culpable of working for organized crime. 

Citizens witnessed municipal police taking people who would later be murdered by Mencho's Mata Zetas and left in a human pile on a highway in Boca del Rio.


Neighbors reported seeing the abductions, such as a 15 year old high school student, walking to the store to purchase feed for his chickens, he was picked up, and taken away in a squad car, he was next seen among the pile of bodies. (above).    


CJNG and Sinaloa cartel split after Boca del Rio.  El Chapo was rumored to be incensed over the Boca del Rio fiasco.

A week after the massacre, Matazetas [CJNG] posted a video on facebook.  Men in black hoods, gloves and tees, sitting at a table, apologized for the violence in Boca del Rio.  They went on to say the violence was due to their mission of removing the scourge, meaning Zetas.

Saying; "Los Matazetas" have arrived in Veracruz to end the insecurity: "Our only interest, is the Los Zetas Cartel”  insisting they respected the armed forces.


The emergence of certain militia groups called AUC, (fake autodefensas) notably the Buenavista group known as the H3,  has helped the Oseguera Cervantes cartel to  now dominate half of the neighboring Michoacan state, in a  territory dispute  with Caballeros Templarios.

The H3 group, have long been rumored to be a cover for Los Viagras, and CJNG.

Viagras, founded and headed by the Sierra Santana brothers, Mariano and Carlos,  are the first and only only splinter from Templarios, however they quickly turned their back on the alliance with La Tuta and the Templarios, and  aligned themselves with Mencho, against the Templarios. 

Allegedly, the reason for Viagras to seek the Mencho alliance, was due to Mencho's power with the federal police, having them on his payroll.  Mencho grasped the opportunity to acquire the edge he needed to take control of Michoacán. Something he badly wanted, he himself being a Michoacano.

Mencho began supplying weapons and vehicles to the group.  Reportedly, Raphael Caro Quintero is also supplying the group with vehicles.

Mencho has demonstrated he is willing to relinquish some power in order to gain a bigger, long term goal.

Mencho gave the upper portion  of the Guerrero Sur coast, for Los Viagras, to operate in.

This territory is adjacent to the lucrative Lazaro Cardenas port .  In  exchange,  Mencho acquires inroads into Michoacán. 

Viagras became stronger, and able to expand its operational powers in Michoacán, and provide Mencho with drug product. 

H3 AUC became the Rurales of the state of Michoacán.  The federally founded /backed group.  The baby of Alfredo Castillo, and whose commanders are linked to Viagras, who are allied with Mencho.

Big winner: Mencho and CJNG

Big loser: La Tuta and Caballeros Templarios

In the Viagra Mencho alliance, Mencho has the Viagras taking care of much of the dirty work in the area along the Guerrero coast, kidnappings and executions.

An  El Observer article says a DEA official, said that the arrest of "El Chapo placed Mencho in open warfare against any vestige of the Sinaloa cartel"

"El Chapo tried to have him assassinated a few years ago" because he saw Mencho  as a threat", says the official. According to information published in the Mexican newspaper La Vanguardia. 

Mencho Oseguera is nearly 50 years old and is a native of Chila, Michoacán.



There is little doubt that the  capture of Chapo, and the alliance with Viagras,  greatly assisted to expedite, and fortify  the  rise of power of CJNG,  which has benefited from the fragmentation and internal disputes among  groups. Internal wars between members of the Sinaloa cartel and its allies have obstructed attempts to establish a replacement chief in the Sinaloa Cartel.

Intelligence reports determine that in Tijuana, those who are  loyal to  Chapo are disputing leadership with those who want the alleged No. 2, Ismael “Mayo” Zambada, assume leadership.  “Chapitos versus Mayitos.”

The AFP news agency reports that Oseguera Cervantes has taken control of the movement of drugs, using part of the Pacific routes, mainly from the dynamic port of Manzanillo (west), where he receives cocaine and ephedrine from Colombia and China.

Unlike every other cartel, Mencho has suffered few losses of key members in his organization, an exception would be in January 2014, Rubén Oseguera, aka "Menchito", son of Mencho, was captured on the outskirts of Guadalajara during a military operation.

The 2014 comments
While some were complimentary: 
AnonymousSeptember 26, 2014 at 1:43 PMParese mencho el buey! LOL. On the serious side: This is an excellent read. Clear, concise and written for easy understanding. My hat is off to you, Chivis. Keep up the good work. 
Many thought I lost my mind: 
AnonymousSeptember 26, 2014 at 11:28 AMMayo Shits all over this dude are you serious El viceroy also all the old players do I doubt it chivis 
AnonymousSeptember 26, 2014 at 11:50 AMthis guy dosent have the mussle or conects to take a well established organization's contributes. 
AnonymousSeptember 26, 2014 at 11:53 AMLol Sinaloenses have influence all over the world Chapo organization too, mencho only has power in like 2 states hahahahaha no mamen who comes up with this Shit, Caro Quinteto, Hector beltran leyva,el Movhomo, Chapo isridro, Mayo Zambada, Ivan Archivaldo Guzman have the best connections and most influence all ove, and why u think Mencho is were he is at Because the Sinaloenses Helped him, Will See What Martin Beltran Coronel has to say now that he is out he was the second in command after Nacho died him and mencho hahahaha mencho the next chapo hahahahahahaha jajajaja jajajaja r u guys that stupid 
AnonymousSeptember 26, 2014 at 11:58 AMViceroy has way more power, money and territory than mencho.

183 comments:

  1. Cjng is deep now, too many plazas and most taken from cds, crazy.

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    1. 4:22 What plazas have they taken?? Outside of Jalisco they don’t have one plaza at all. Guanajuato? Santa rosa says different. Veracruz? They’ve been there 8 plus years and still fighting other cartels for the plaza. Baja California? They getting wiped out left and right from what everybody except bb is reporting. TJ? CDS still has more influence than anybody. I dont get what you cjng jockers mean by they’ve taken plazas when they don’t own one to themselves outside jalisco and small part of michoacan. Y’all need to quit lying cjng is nothing more than el PRI paper tiger

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    3. 5:44 everybody knows cjng is in Tijuana, colima, took Chiapas plaza from cds, took quintana roo from Dona letty from cds. You kid are in denial, I know your favorite cartel is cds but don't lie to yourself lol too funny with these cds cheerleaders

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    4. El 5:44 está más enterado que el mecho him self. Relaja la vena

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    5. Menso o Mencho which will it be

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    6. 7:37 La Mencha is the name,
      But mencho is baby talk for menso
      Mencha the female, is "mensa"
      Ruben degenerates into men-cho, if she is a Jaliska, Mencha
      --MENSA, an organization for VERY SMART INTELLIGENT PERSONS...
      Texas Grandma says she owns them or sompim'.
      --MANS, metropolitan area narcotics squad, may be lissening.

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    7. You guys just mad that mencho became more powerful than y’all pussy ass sinaloense capos. Y’all be dick riding chapo and shit but he a snitch, he snitched out his own cousin. Mencho has more power than CDS.Chapo was a stupid ass motherfucker who didn’t know how to be in the business and to not leave trails. Look at Mayo he has never been caught like el chapo. Mayo and mencho play smart. But at the end of the day mencho is always going to be powerful like el Mayo Zambada

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    8. tj = perla,ya no son los tiempos de antes.

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    9. El Mayatón tiene 50 años de cabrón...
      La Menchita will be lucky to survive EPN'S SEXESINATO after his few years of ass kissing up to La Nacha

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  2. Mencho is the richest and most powerful in Mexico?

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    1. There's an old timer,that's gonna die of natural causes in sinaloa.that's who runs the show in Mexico.

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    2. @5:49
      Asi es mi Compa Aya por el rumbo del Alamo encuentran a este viejon... saludos raza de Chihuahua y Sinaloa

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    3. Sinaloas always making stuf up lol where's your facts? I won't hold my breath

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    4. I'm not from sinaloa 9:57 am,but when el Mayo dies of natural causes,that's all the facts you will need.

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    5. 4:33. Mencho like Chapo is only a pawn for “the richest and most powerful in Mexico”. Señor Zambada and el Azul know this is true and they have played their roles as required to survive.

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    6. 12:03 why does he gave his sons in prison? He can't be that powerful

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    7. 6:52 STFU! There is no Azul just like there is no Senor de Los Cielos!
      Zambada might be top dog now but he was always Chapos right hand man. You cannot survive in this fucking drug game without a right hand man and you know this! Drug lords in Mexico always work in pairs!
      Now Zambada probably already has another right hand man but saying Azul is that is nonsense!

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  3. Intuitive, good job

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  4. Wow never new El Chapo try to get him kill , funny how that coward dint do absolutely nothing i would have declared war on sinaloa and taken over but we all know El mencha is just a p.ssy hidding

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  5. He is not smart he got caught already and got babies trown at his face and even inmates try to pregnant him in prison crazy but I agreed with chivis he has the power now

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    1. Did not know a man can get pregnant.

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    2. Mencho got raped in prison? And babys thrown in his face? Like in the the silence of the lambs scene?

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    3. Chapo got caught twice before his 3rd and last fall and hes regarded as a smart man. Smart people are smart because they learn from their mistakes

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    4. Really Mencho was raped in prison ? has he taken revenge ? Clyde barrow broke back in to the Eastham prison to break out partner and took revenge on a turnkey that raped him . I bet mencho has killed way more people thab a depression era bonk robber . If he has any power , I can imagine him not striking back .

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    5. 10:11 not everything is done "to get things or men pregnant".
      La Mencha just betrayed La Nacha and appropriated his operation.
      @Chivis, who was that decorated police officer killed with this truckload? It gets dangerous being known for a Boy Scout as San Luis Potosi and genarco Garcia luna's SSP police commanders found out too late...

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  6. Come on everyone. Let's cheer for someone else now. Chapo is history just like the Dallas Cowboys and some of us need a new person to cheer for!!!
    Sarcasm of course

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    1. 5:17 yea your right . Somebody new to cheer for . GO MARINES !!!!

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    2. 4:05 no pinchis mames!
      Malinche Oportunista,
      Mexican marinas are a bunch of murdering trigger happy assassins widely covered up by laws loaded with impunity, and their trainers enjoy the same benefits.

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  7. CJNG really did take "diversification" to heart and left CDS, Zetas, Templarios, CDN in the dust! The reason Menchos crew is so hard to hit finance wise is because they are laundering MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS, through bitcoin and other crypto currencies.

    FACT: CJNG pays European(RUSSIAN/UKRANIAN/ALBANIAN) hackers to monitory communications, hack into the networks of the people ordered to kill/capture him, and sniff out rats.

    FACT: Mencho is working with Solntsevskaya russian mob which is directly controlled by the FSB.

    FACT: There's a cold war in Mexico. CIA VS FSB

    LONG LIVE THE CIA.... KILL MENCHO!!!!!

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    1. Hahaha Bitcoin is a bad investment. You don’t even know what you’re saying lol. It’s nor backed by anything fool.

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    2. The U.S.dollar is also not backed by anything other than your belief that it's worth something just like bitcoin. The dollar was taken off the gold standard long ago.

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    3. FACTS??!! Let’s see them paper work buddy.
      -💯

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    4. Bahhaha this guy again. You are in every comments saying the Russians are controlling the cartels blah blah. You are out of your mind, time to take your meds amigo.

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    5. In Russia, Ukraine, bitcoin is popular. This person lives in a Russian-speaking country and he's crazy.

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    6. at 5:18 PM you off your medication again? spew your tinfoil crap elsewhere.

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    7. Are you stupid 743 the Dollar is backed by the trust of the people al over the world. The US Economy Oil , and the most important The Military backs the Dollar.

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    8. Bitcoin is popular in Russia because like Mexico, it’s poor as fuck with corruption in the air!

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    10. Bitcoin's value isn't based on the actual "coin", it's value is based within the blockchain technology it's built on.

      I doubt the Russian mob is involved as the poster said but these guys would be stupid if they weren't using crypto currency's.

      Phelpso

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    11. Albanian hackers? Lol.

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  8. Mencho is what chapo was, is just music for your ears.

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  9. Yup, crazy but nobody believed me either when I read reports about him lol many think chapo was Mencho boss but that's not the case,mencho had his own cartel and was just allied with cds but not a cds member. They both benefited because Mencho had colima where he got his chemicals to make synthetic drugs and good sicarios and Mencho benefited because cds had the border plazas and customers in the U.S.

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    1. Hahaha Mencho took orders from Nacho Coronel. Who took was CDS you don’t even know what you’re saying

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    2. After they killed nacho is when mencho took over jalisco, even el molca said so. That's when he created his own cartel and killed the ones who went against him. He then allied with cds but they were not the same because mencho already had his cartel.

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    3. La Mencha created NOTHING, he just transformed La Nacha operation into a greedier hungrier murdering operation and went with it as his own, everybody starts as goody goody god buddies and then someone starts to move for all the marbles.
      The new president will tell everybody to kiss and make out and they will until they don't no mó.

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  10. Haha viceroy just lost cuauhtemoc and madera... more territory my ass mate

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    1. Hola Senor Grillo

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    2. He didn’t lose cuauhtemoc he was betrayed by unloyal back stabbing sobs who will pay for their actions ... thats why these so called gente Nueva del tigere are dying of hunger cuz there charco jefes ain’t giving them no support financially ... NCDJ La Linea________💯

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    3. EL TEMO /THE TEMOMay 6, 2018 at 12:52 AM

      my anonymous 5:36 makes u WONDER how LA LINEA/CDJ/B.A got rid of THEIR OWN BASURA when they found out 🤔🤔🤔🤔 ....u GOT remnants of cds AROUND but it HAS changed drastically THESE past YEAR'S....don't 🐝LIEVE me ask LA LINEA 👍👍👍👍

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    4. 5:36 The viceroy comment part of the report was posted on
      September 26 2014, go back to remedial reading reading 101.
      Eso me saco por andar aqui de caliente, puro retrasado!

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    5. 10:00 lmao 😂

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  11. We get it Chiviz youre the best. Youre always right.

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    1. yup, she sure is!

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    2. Leave my baby alone, pinchis.

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  12. It is better to stay low key.
    -Sol Prendido

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    1. He's making the same mistake El Chapo did. He wants to have it all. The CJNG is constantly attracting attention to themselves. The weaker the other cartels get, the bigger a target they become.

      I know better than to set a date for Mencho's downfall and they've lasted longer than I hoped they would. But I expect the CJNG to go the way of the Zetas.

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    2. Making the same mistake el Chapo did ? Like arrange an interview with Kate De Castillo & Sean Penn?

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    3. 8:16 no but his son is an idiot and will be his down fall. They want Mencho death? They just kill or extradite his Menchito and see how long it takes for him to do something stupid.

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  13. How old is that foto of Mencho?

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    1. EL TEMO /THE TEMOMay 5, 2018 at 4:07 PM

      MY ANONYMOUS KOMPITA that's HIS high skhool graduation PHOTO 👍👍👍👍

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    2. 4:07 looks like her prom photo,
      why can't we see the US prison mugz?
      Unless the US classified them like their disciples Z1 and Z3 whose mugz are disappeared from policia judicial federal and the Mexican army records, they trained them, demet!

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  14. God and the universe has more power than everyone, anyone, any where, morning , noon ,and night so go figure, who is the boss when the planet decides to quit!

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    1. Best comment ever here

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    2. Amen brother u couldn’t of have said it any better.
      -💯

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    3. Planets don't decide!

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    4. Primitive thinking that is false.

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    5. Which God? Zeus,Mithra, Odin,Kulkulkan?

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    6. 10:51 Quetzalcoatl is the GOD of civility,
      Huitzilopochtli knows, all the rest just hang along.

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    7. 10:24 the Maya call Quetzalcoatl: Kukulkan
      Both mean the feathered snake

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  15. excellent work chivis who would’ve thought They would take the second biggest city in the country from the hands of the most powerful cartel at the time.. cagazon de los Sinas

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  16. Historically being in control of Guadalajara means a solid future up ahead and strong foundation for your organization/cartel.. when feliz gallardo was imprisoned it was passed on to his associates who have controles it ever since (sinaloa) up until CJNG came around.. even if Mencho falls they’ll control it for many more years to come

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    1. What happens when a domino falls, the rest falls one by one

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    2. If mencho falls the rest start falling like flys or start fighting aganst each other for whos gets the seat of power, like cdg zetaz familia michoacana caballeros templarios except cds, maybe cause they been in the game longer and know how to do busness? And viagras are enemys of mencho they have michoacan on a war zone

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    3. That cartel is completely run by Mencho. Not like other cartels, so if Mencho gets caught it’s jump ship or die. Facts

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    4. 9:10 los cuinis and a bunch of other families that are in the drug game.

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    5. Cds is always in war with each other, no cartel escapes from peoples greed and wanting more...

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  17. It was only ten years ago Mencho was head of sicarios in PV, so in terms of Scumbag he's come really far.

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    1. There a big resort condos etc near Pv in Nayarit called paradise village heard nacho guy lived on property back in day. Anyhow when cjng took Nayarit do they go to places like that and demand action or is that stuff off limits?

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  18. It was the same back then as it is now. Mencho is being hyped to be a huge drug lord who control drug trafficking and everyone respects and fears him and his power is greater than chapos and is very powerful but thats just so that when he is caught people will think the goverment is doing his job, the reality is that he cant even control his own state michoacan and that his people are flipping on him and cant take out one of his liutenants in Jalisco el cholo , I dont think hes anywhere near where Chapo was or CDS. Is like el Molca said one of the leaders of cartel Milenio who knows and worked with Mencho,that he will lose against sinaloa eventually and will likely get caught soon.

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    1. Sinaloa cartel doesn't own sinaloa, they only run half. El cholo and his people don't run much of jalisco, it's like that with every cartel. There is no such thing as a cartel running a whole state, there is always a crew that flips and wants total control.

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    2. Like many cartels in Mexico. Corruption and impunity is what drives these individuals to operate.
      A vote of No- Confidence rating whatsoever from Mexico’s citizens when it pertains to its government.
      Statistics indicated; Between 2000 and 2013 at least 41 state governors were accused of corruption but-only 16 were investigated and just four were arrested.
      The root of Mexico’s problem is clearly evident!

      E42

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    3. E42. Why should there not be impunity in Mexico for cartels?
      The only reason a "drug war" exists in the U.S. and Mexico is because the U.S. can't stop it's citizens from snorting or injecting almost any shit Mexico puts in front of their fuckin nose or arm! U.S. sure as fuck does not want to bother educating it's people against using drugs so it labels addiction a fuckin disease of sorts instead and or demonizes dealers. Then the U.S. pressures Mexico into a "good neighbor" policy of sorts and demands Mexico help prevent the flow of drugs in this country at the expense of ethics or morals if neccesary! Thousands of fucking lives lost in Mexico because of American involvement in order to spare the hassle of educating often time worthless individuals in the U.S. against using drugs!

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    4. 8:05 we’ll believe it. That dude took out La Familia Michoacana, la resistencia, golfos and zetas from Jalisco

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    5. @9:52
      May as well hand out penance of “Our Fathers and Hail Marys” for forgiveness!

      Unbelievable!
      The root of the issue needs to be extinguished from its head. Then healing can begin for many.
      Let’s not forget that Mexico’s consumption rate is becoming an issue too.

      E42

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  19. Wtf why post nuthugger cjng comment? Its clear cjng is running this website. Sad.

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    1. EL TEMO /THE TEMOMay 5, 2018 at 4:10 PM

      THAT'S how much POWER 💪💪💪💪 they have MY ANONYMOUS KOMPITA 🤣😂🤣😂

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  20. The problem here is that no sinaloa guy will accept that somebody other than sinaloa is the biggest capo in Mexico. But the question is why? It's like the fan that hoped his football team would make it to the championship but didn't make it, yet he tells all his buddies his team is still number one even though everybody knows who the champions are lol

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    1. Why???? Cause every other cartel leader has been from sinaloa...sinaloenses started the game everyone else just followed like always....

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    2. Good POINT

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    3. 8:57 times have changes, sinaloas are number 2 now but who knows in the future. The way it's looking, if they don't take out mencho, they will have no plazas soon

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  21. Mencho is already the king

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  22. The king of narcos is mayo heir of amado Carrillo yall know that.

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  23. Why would you write he is intelligent? Why? Do you know him? Did he even graduate high school? The intelligent ones are the ones using him as a symbol.

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  24. bigger then pablo

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    1. 12:34 - lol no he isn't.. the likelihood that anyone will ever be as big as Pablo is slim to none. I think some of you guys forget that a billion dollars in the 1980's was worth considerable more than it is now.

      Phelpso

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    2. 4:30 PM, What's the difference? Pablo was engaged only in cocaine and only the US and he was not the only leader of the cartel. El Chapo, Mayo, pradoval cocaine, heroin, meth, marijuana, around the world.

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  25. This information is bs menchos and Viagra are enemies and mencho still don't run shit in Michoacan.. And c.t still Deep in Michoacan.

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    1. Pay attention, read slowly, this is info posted in 2014. Yes viagras and cjng are NOW ENEMIES, but were allies. and if you don't think mencho runs shit you need to put the pipe down and move to bdn

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    2. I know someone from Apatzingán. He says Mencho frequents cock fights there. He had a guy killed cuz his roosters kept losing to the other guys. Pretty credible source

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    3. Mencho has the main power. michoacan is like the judges at the big show they have nothing to prove. your talking about the real secret circle if your talking about apatzingan into the mountains true native Mexican revolutieries

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    4. La sierra people r with mencho how long will it last who knos. D guanajatillo ala cucha pa arriva. Ct still they own tho.

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  26. Chivis . Is this the only picture in existence of this little pip squeak rat ? He should be call el rata pip squeaky .
    Whats it going to be with this one ? Will he go down in a fire fight or surrender after when he fails to get away after sacrificing his body guards ? I would put my money on surrender if the let him .

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    1. There are others, a handful, but this one shows his face and is commonly used.

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    2. Other than Tony Tormenta and Botas Blancas, maybe also El Ondeando, who else has truly gone down fighting? Anyone lately?

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    3. If we pretend like the Mexican gob is actually being truthful about a couple then you missed a few. ABL, Lazca are two that I can think of off the top of my head. Let's be real though, the mex gob has been proven numerous times to execute surrendering narcos. Its amazing that these narcos just all die in a firefight but they're always on the ground face down all outside the vehicles.

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    4. El H2 got ripped up by a mini gun, but most big shots seem to be hiding in s.all groups...LE tactics are changing...halcones can't see drones.

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  27. The latest new on Mencho . Word is out they found his hiding place . It turns out he was hiding at chapo's momma's house .

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  28. Menchos story is very similar to Chapos if you take a moment to analyze him. Both astute in their line of work, very ambitious, and rule with an iron fist. Expansion is done through full assault and corruption of local police & government. I cannot respect these men for their product is direct poison to humanity, but the sheer will to succeed is amazing. Sadly they are only pawns backed by corrupt suitS. They are men of poverty who struggled and ended up with opportunities in a world that is poisonous yet lucrative. I do not begrudge them for responding to the hand set on their shoulder. What I mean is they are astute Alpha males who are being propped up by a corrupt network far beyond our understanding. Pay attention the vail is slipping.

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    1. Mencho was in the US . He could have got a job and worked and would have been fine ,thats not the case with chapo.

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    2. Chapo was in the US also, chapo even has a California ID card. So chapo could have stayed and got a job, So whats the difference?

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    3. The difference is El Chapo chose to live in Mexico over being a pinchi gramero on the US and go to prison to lose his ass to the tintos for it.

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    4. Big difference mencho was young and was in the US could have gotten a job., Chapo is a real husltler he started from the bottom and made it to the top

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    5. They both didn't want to work for a living and that's a fact.

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    6. 5:22 am there is more work and stress involved than you know..also i bet you my last dollar both of them would quit the drug game FOREVER if they were given a job that pays the money they make now

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    7. 10:45 nah, really? Wow u really smart.

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  29. These so called cartel leaders only exist as a corrupt alter ego to dirty political leaders who wish to do the work themselves but use these narco surrogates in an effort to appear morally superior. When the narco leaders grow too big or the puppet masters grow tired of them, or they fail to pay the bribe amount, the strings are cut and down they fall.
    I'm trying to remember an analogy an old Mexican man told me about his people and their struggles, but it had to do with a bucket of crabs. Each crab, in an attempt to get out of the bucket, crawls over the others, each crab crawling on top the other to reach the top. Some make it to the top, only to be drug back down by the others.

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    1. EL TEMO /THE TEMOMay 5, 2018 at 4:18 PM

      5:30 &7:36 👀 agree on WHAT U GENTLEMEN WROTE regarding THESE our PEOPLE'S 2 BAD THE GOVERNMENT is ALOT WORSE than THEM but even when the media unkovers ALL THEIR BASURA it's LIKE nothing is ever done 2 the korrupt OFFICIAL'S N THAT'S the FUCKD UP part 4 the civilians

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  30. The next Mencho is out there whacking people as we speak.

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  31. My favorite part of that supoosed Mencho phone call.....“Y miedo no hay”

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  32. Menchitio is a dead an walking.

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  33. You cannot ignore that he's come a long way from what he was when he was an allied of CDS...but to put him up as the top narco i dought it ...mayo has been in the game 40 years plus...he just dont mind mencho taking on the spot light ...like he did with el chapo...i have always thought mayo was the bigger head of cds....the only reason chapo was more famous was because of the prison escapes ...

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    1. Chapo wasn’t nothing back then. Mencho came in the business hard and is one of the top bosses like el Mayo

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    2. 9:03 is cuz it took 40 years for mayo to be the “I always thought mayo was the bigger head of cds and it only took El Mencho 10 years to be called the top capo. That’s the difference and that’s why he deserves called the drug cartel king.

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  34. You kill one cockroach and a 100 come to the funeral! Thats like narcos! Take one out and a 100 are waiting to take their place! Damn shame!

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    1. Suggest a better pesticide!

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    2. @12:19p.m puts a new meaning to the term narco raid!😄

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  35. Estan todos bien pondejos el viceroy esta encerrado ese wey ya no tiene power y el Mencho es el bueno astuto por eso es el jefe.

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    1. My pesos are on Viceroy getting released soon after the next Presidente is sworn in

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    2. 5:45 As I look at all the low life shit (what has been exposed only) that a group of people has done to combat the spread of communism since the fall of berlin in 1945 , I have my doubts . There is a group that will do absolutely anything to stop the spread of communism . Its still a little ways off . If he takes office we will know that the world has truly changed . One who I believe to be a senior shot caller is still alive and kicking and so are a lot of his equals . I could be wrong but will be very surprised if lopez ever takes office . I think Mexico will fall if it happens

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    3. 3:32 you are pregnant and not just because of all the poppycock...
      AMLO will win and it doesn't matter what else happens, plans are there for a pinochetazo, or economic blockades, or shit, but the consequences have not been seen very clearly, after all is nos va a llevar la chingada, at least it will be holding hands with the people's candidate at least one last time, we don't have much more to lose anyway...
      Not for nothing so many opposition members of all persuasions are aligning themselves with Morena, and there is the Virgin Of Guadalupe helping too, como la ven?

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    4. My American $$$ says he will never take the reigns . The real powers wont let it happen .

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    5. 545pm Nice comment. He will get released because he is supported by the elite families of Chihuahua: De la Vega, Otero, Zaragoza, Escobar etc.

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    6. 12:57 La Bella Otero, Google images and get lost on old time beauties, she may even be encuerada!

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  36. I think that as soon as chapo stepped into jail el mayo replaced, him. so the answer to your question is no Mencho is not replacing chapo

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    1. Chapo is history..his time over! Jalisco take the game now..cdn in tamaulipas..zambada in sinaloa..mencho the number 1 narco now..all sinaloa cheerleaders needs take it like a fact!

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  37. Mencho only on top cus of government power when his time to get caught or killed will know if mayo or mencho bigger atte:knowledge

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  38. Yosie Locote a Sureno rapper got killed in Guadalajara today. He was shot and a message was left stuck on his chest with a knife threatening another cartel. Looks like he tried to rap crap from LA in the wrong place. Mexico aint the place you want to run your mouth saying shit about your gang just anywhere without concecuenses.

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    1. I thought he was killed a couple weeks ago?

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    2. 3:31 PM Thanks for the intel as I suspected.

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    3. Not sure when exactly Chivis. It just barely came out on a Youtube report.

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    4. it happened on april 18th. I haven't seen what the message said.

      anyone?

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    5. Chivis is right its been a while and he got kill because he was rolling with el Cholo. Nothing to do with la gangs.

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  39. Chapo and Mencho have a different story. El Chapo survived at three narco’s generations, and has destroyed others cartels like Arellano Felix, Carrillo Fuentes, Beltran Leyva and Los Zetas of Lazcano and Trevino Morales. He was the top narco for 25 years. He create the most solid and powerful cartel of the planet, in cooperation with other top narco like Zambada. He escape of jail two times, one directly of the door, and one with a tunnel one miles long what you watch only on film tv. This was irreal. Mencho not is at this level. Mencho’s organization is a paramilitary brutal force, but not a narco structure at level of Sinaloa carte. If Mencho will be captured or killed, the CJNG will be finished.

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    1. mas claro no puede ser

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    2. Chapo didnt destroy any of those groups, the government did.

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    3. Cjng has a better structure than cds

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    4. Arellano felix I agree the rest destroyed themselves

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    5. Now mencho is destroying cds

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  40. Looks like even back then and now you were wrong Chivis. The DEA seems to thinks that the most dangerous and powerful drug lord is rafael caro quintero. And in Mexico there are many high profile drug lords who have came out on the media saying they replaced Chapo for example El Mayo has been said to have replaced Chapo many times also Chapo Isidro has been said to have replaced Chapo as one of the most powerful and influencial leaders. Even though its obvious who replaced chapo was his son Ivan Archivaldo with the helping hand of El Mayo. At the end its all publicity meant to mislead the public.

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  41. bahahha Comparing this bozo to El Chapo. What a joke. Chapo fought the biggest cartels in Mexicos history and came out on top. He escaped max prisons twice and kept Sinaloa on top after all those years of struggle. Chapo had literally fleets of jets and boats, subs, thousands of trucks etc. Please dont compare these two again. Chapo ran a mafia, Mencho runs a gang.

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    1. You are retarded , this guy is and the best at his own game , Chapo and crew been getting his ass handed to him latently

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    2. La Mencha runs a lot of territory, with a lot of foot soldiers like los zetas, that used to be infantry, o sea narcos a pata.
      CDS has always had the style and the brains to be the ones there in the worst of situations, and when they fall and stumble there is always a better one to pick the fallen standard and take it back to the top, not a worse lacra like the lacraz picking up fallen standards and bad habits and malas mañas by the dozens.

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  42. It's true mencho into fighting roosters!

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  43. he had his eyes on the throne since pablo he a main reason why pablo got that far he was the face of the delivery back in the day.

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  44. 99.9% where zetas quit trying to make the inocentes , school boy by day and zeta at night , mata zetas where doing the right thing to bad government didn't let them finish the job

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  45. Chivis your articles keep insinuating mencho has topped Chapo in legend or that mencho has this unbelievable power that has surpassed CDS. We get it but reality says CDS still has more real power when it comes to their financial interests wether that be logistics of their drug loads or political protection and international influence. CJNG inflated rise comes from them going trying to run the narcomenudeo of municipalities in mexico and in fhe process being the zetas 2.0 in the shady shit they do thats not drug related and intimadate the populous.

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    1. 11:58 friend you need comprehension reading class or two, or three. I said neither at this point. Not now and not in 2014. But a reasonable person has to face the facts.

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    2. I have seen her answer that question multiple times in the negative, saying he hasn't topped Guzmán yet. another thing that stands out in my memory is she says mencho must be stopped that he is the biggest threat to mexico in history. he has no boundaries and fearless to strike any person or group including the military.

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    3. correct. and I still say that. Plus If he is taken down, there goes the power. IMO. If he is killed or arrested, The cartel will fracture and a massive turf war will commence.

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    1. I was going to say the same.

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    2. Yeah, cause conservatives didnt cry during the entire Obama presidency.. Take your blinders off dip shit.

      Phelpso

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  47. Chivis watch this . I am prepared to make the most intelligent comment ever made of this blog . Get ready everybody . I DONT KNOW . Often times one thinking he is so much in the know or trying to sound like he , and sometimes does to people who know little about the subject. A person learns that understands he doesn't already know . He can appear a fool acting like he does know to people that really know . I have seen some real idiots ridicule people on here and they may have know less than anybody . Lots of fool read part of a statement and get all worked up before they read it all or mistake what the writer is trying to say . One thing is for sure . Most on here don't know as much as they think they do or would like to look like they do

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    1. Yep! Yes so very true 2:59 finally the truth xq

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    2. 2:59 We are in school, participate.
      As time goes by there will be some supremely informed commenters that know whass'up.
      --Remember, even Cheech Marin found success with his school of teaching Inglish to the maras and the cholos in tijuana when he was Born in East LA.
      --Most other narco blogs don't have comments or visitors to their schools, we are blessed, we can learn and teach from each other.

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    3. "You don't know"
      Well, at least you know that, a big part of the solution to any problem is knowing what the problem is,
      --that is about 90% of the solution, the other 10% is up to you what YOU do about it, picking on others doesn't seem like going to do much for you or anybody else...
      --I could help you more, but that is RESTRICTED TERRITORY, AND CLASSIFIED, do you have, like, CLEARANCE?

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  48. What goes up must come down.

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    1. 7:55 shit that has rolled downhill never goes back,
      It is set knowledge, we are more likely to have MORE shit rolling down than going back up the hill.

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  49. I wonder if Mencho and Chapo debate about anonymous comments on how they rank.

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    1. Sorry. To break your bubble,they do. Not talk because Chappitto is in prison, for big. Time crimes.

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  50. lo que se ve no se pregunta..

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  51. Read old comment the devil lives in Mexico.
    I can’t say disagree but could it be he lives everywhere and the sooner a “people” “country” realize that having a rich country in overall livable conditions throughout with help etc etc. means a longer life even with devil there? Poor county just means more POOR souls to choose from?

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  52. So is this why Juarez has been hot lately ? Is it mencho trying to take over the Juarez plaza? Theres been killings at bars and even cops getting gunned down (los ministeriales) its getting crazy in juarez again. Power struggle within CDJ? Cjng vs cdj?

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  53. There some guy named don barrigas yapping about El cartel Nuevo Medellín arriva pablo it’s a youtube video

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  54. How funny el mencho is not even from Jalisco he is from Michoacan

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    1. his family moved there because of a war and blood shed from a fight Ramos and Mendozas this is important if your going to pen point a truth in a story please talk about reality not friction@ 3:40 pm

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  55. im sorry but we need to move on. we need to find out why we are falling in to the same trap. we need to keep history and facts in a matter that is respectable and fight for why we are here chatting our asses about yes we have a real people on here talking but we need people to be talking about points that are going to have us think and moving on to a better sucessful future. we need progess in a more understanble formath some of us are missing srews because we lost the information that wasn't given to us.

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