Sunday, March 18, 2018

Out of Control Arms Traffic in Guerrero

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: Bajopalabra

Luis Jijon Leon, Mar 17, 2018


Guerrero :  The state authorities have acknowledged that there is no control in the arms trade in Guerrero, which has turned the entity into an arsenal where more and more powerful weapons appear in the hands of criminals, from German rifles HK 93A with grenade launchers up to  C-4 explosives.

According to information from the Public Security Secretariat (SSP) of the State of Guerrero, so far this month at least 40 weapons, 15  long guns, full cartridges/ magazines, explosives, and tactical equipment have been seized and they have arrested 26 people.





Among the weapons seized are German-made rifles, as well as powerful explosives. On March 4 in the Sierra de Guerrero, four people were arrested and the authorities confiscated nine long weapons, among which was a rifle model HK 93A, of the German company Heckler and Koch. In addition, a grenade launcher, 26 loaders for different types of weapons, thousands of  216 live cartridges of different calibers, presumed liquid opium gum, tactical equipment and powerful explosives called C4. 


On Tuesday, March 13, the Attorney General's Office (PGR), the Mexican Army and state police searched an address in the community of La Soledad,  in the Municipality of San Marcos, where they seized four long weapons, 10 short guns , 28 porters (? )  and more than 2,000 live cartridges, and  also detained nine people. 

Early this month in the mountains of Guerrero, the authorities located  a vehicle with an AR-15 rifle, two 9 mm square pistols, plus a 14 mine rifle, and live  ammunition cartridges. 



The PGR have arrested  17 more people in Zihuatanejo, Acapulco, Costa Chica, and Tierra Caliente for carrying  firearms, who according to the SSP have been  presented to the appropriate authorities, but their legal status ( I assume they mean the legal status of the weapons ) is unknown.


On Tuesday, March 13,  while attending a  ceremonial destruction of weapons in the Ninth Military Region, Governor Hector Astudillo Flores acknowledged that one of the problems generated by the daily criminal acts of the state is the large amount of weapons flowing among into the State of Guerrero and among Guerrerenses. 

For its part, the spokesman, Alvarez Heredia called on the federation to reduce the illegal arms traffic to the entity.

Note: to all you gun experts out there ; I have NO idea what they mean by "porters" ; perhaps grenade launchers ???

65 comments:

  1. Did anyone see that kingpin show on history channel. El chapo ep. The gulf cartel ddidnt exist benjamin arellano was portrayed as an average thug as opposed to the business man he was. El guero palma nor el mayo zambada nor ernesto fonseca or caro quintero were mentioned. They made el chapo as more powerful than escobar and his cartel the most powerful which it was when the gulf cartel and the zetas split for a time the most powerful cartel in mexico. Fucking history channel was way off.

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    1. Chapo is a big nobody, he's crying in his cell

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    2. History Channel got off the path over 10+years ago. I used to have serious interesting shows. Now it's scripted reality shows. Pretty disappointing.

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    3. The show was horrible. They took a handful of true events and made their own story. Leaving out most of the main players and major events. The program as a whole created a fictional story to what end I'm not sure. Did they assume the average watcher isn't intelligent enough to grasp the actual history? Maybe they weren't talented enough to get all the facts flimed in the amount of time allotted for the program? Truth is they made a twisted storyline with the goal of selling commercial time and no care for the complete facts. A fine example of corporate profiting off the drug war and blurring the facts.

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    4. Its entreteining material based on real events. It is not a documentary.

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    5. Dude way off topic

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    6. 8:25 It's the History Channel and should be factual and not "entreteining"(entertaining). When doing something, do it right.

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    7. 7:24 History Channel was getting too close to truths too hot to handle, so they reverted to the telenovela format.

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  2. Let's blame guns and mental illnesses for killing people

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    1. Some mental patients are fed Guns and Brainwash] along with the philosophy of the tea party teabaggers and white racist extremist ideologies...
      For some strange reason I have not seen "leftists" feeding extremist ideologies or weapons or bombs to their followers.

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    2. Guns.. no
      Mental illness.... Some cases

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    3. Weapons manufacturers manage to put their wares in the hands of the mentally ill they then use to promote their extreme right agenda, but not every sick person uses weapons, take Timothy McVeigh, bombing the FBI building in Oklahoma on behalf of da I'd koresh a multiple offender child abuser that hid behind his bibles and religion and weapons and welfare for his sex victims to sustain his way of life...
      McVeigh certainly was used and promptly executed to save the living, his surviving accomplices, from further investigations if he confessed more if given enough time.

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    4. The Austin Bomber mysteriously surfaced when everybody is fighting weapons and taking in the NRA, LIKE somebody is trying to exonerate guns...
      Another case, one armed school assistant shots and kills an armed attacker after he shoots two people, that's was quick, and we give the benefit of the doubt, but other cases look suspicious, I am waiting for "coincidence #3"

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  3. That's a lot of arms in that last photo!I wonder if they are sold twice or even 3 or 4 times within the gun's life?

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    1. Here in LA a hood gun is passed around . some sell them off after doing dirt .I can only imagine they keep there's for as long as possible .never know when another one might come to you .

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    2. Porters?= cargadores= magazines, the kind you fill with bullets, not the kind you read and steal from doctors' offices and not the Porters that help you unload and carry your luggage

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    3. 10:30 one shot shotguns and cal .22 rifles will be destroyed,
      modern German rifles, guns, gold or silver plated will be resold, of course, a GÜEBO!
      that is a Lotta money right there, police department ts can use the fine new modern weapons and the bullets, but police officers will have to buy them too, with their kickbacks or sompim'

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    4. It's easily a possibility.

      Just imagine that every time some sicario goes down, some corrupt cop/military/official/whatever just turns around and sells the weapon to someone else.

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    5. I think they get recirculated. If they stop the killing in mexico , do you realize how many criminals they will be left with ?

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    6. They get recirculated, half price, a good deal for all involved, just save a few to plant on their murder victims and accuse them of being "narcooo"

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  4. There’s a lot of money at stake that’s what weapons are for to protect Money and heroin...US demand is causing this

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    1. Demand all over the world is causing this. You are acting as though the US is the center of the universe. You are unwittingly pushing Donald Trump’s agenda by putting the US first over all other countries. I doubt very seriously you would want to be put in the same category as of our proud racial bigots.

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    2. I can see to a certain degree as fact to your analogy to your comment. Drugs / violence have interwoven our communities / countries from narcotics.
      However, IMO the violence which has surged in Mexico is due to the fragmented alliance cartels / government. Where greed of monopolizing a product that is very profitable.
      These weapons are of serious concerns. But because of such uncertainty in the drug trafficking business measures have been implemented.
      Moreover, sure a majority of these weapons are shipped by means of overseas by arms traffickers.

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    3. Yes let's not put any blame on the people with broken moral compass that's killing their own people...

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    4. Not just US demand, worldwide demand including domestic demand. mexico became a consumer not just a producer, American weed has a huge demand in Mexico asmuch as american weapons

      People like you just want to blame and take no responsability
      Cartels move drugs and they blame american demand yet When guns make their way to mexico
      They dont blame mexican demand.
      The major cartels existed since way before the drug war yet no one was mad at the united states, it wasnt until the mexican president attacked the cartels with the mexican military and the cartels responded and attacked back and eachother and suddenly its americas fault

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    5. The shit they do like skinning people alive, decapitation of people while awake and conscious,killing children thats not of a normal mindset, that comes from an altered mindset its a mentall illness in some form, wether its caused by a traumatic event or drugs in this case a combination of both, these guys are tweaked the fuck out to do these crazy shit, so face it mexico needs to learn to face its problem learn that its also a consumer, and invest in prevention,starting with education these kids need to stop gloryfying these guys, people need to stop offering bribes to cops, both mexico and USA need to treat addicts like patients not criminals. This is something thats gonna last a while its not gonna go away right away

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    6. Heroin from guerrero, no mames, that is about like opium for the masses without the opioid...
      --Most is from Afghanistan, that is why the war there still can't be won after 15 years, and involving the chinese, the russians, and Blackwater again, will make it all even worser...

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    7. 2:03 Exactly right . The us is such a bad neighbor to mexico , the Mexicans should build a wall to stop the arms from crossing and the heroin from going north . That would show them US peoples

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    8. Yes but as long as the end users are Americans recreating on their off time isn’t the hell the citizens of Guerrero all worth while? I mean get for real - these are American law abiding; well maybe not law abiding but American consumers we’re talking about!!

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    9. 3:01 absolutely right, they just want to make Mexico the one to blame while CIa ships tons of opium back to America. Mexican black heroin is not as popular as the white from Afghanistan who after the US set with their troops all of a sudden the opium fields quadrupled.

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    10. Pointing fingers towards one side only for blame is becoming tiresome. Supply and demand is evident globally.

      A Health / educational approach to deter individuals from consuming would best be suitable in the US.

      E42


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    11. If I were Trump (who I depise by the way) I would open the flood gates and allow as many guns to go south as possible. If Mexico can’t control the drugs going north then whooops the US all sudden can’t stop the majority of guns going south. Quid pro quo at it’s finest. Its only fair, right? Do your job and I will do mine.

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  5. HK are coming from major arms deals. Gun stores don't think so. One thing about mexico they r serious about killing.

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    1. HK supplies the Mex Govt as does Barrett. The guns go into the govt and asshole command offivers sell them out the back door. I used to work for as a regional Rep for HK. In Germany this is big news actually. The people are all bent out of shape and giving HK tons of shit. Hell HK is stillrecycling the G3 rifle from the 1970s to Mex.

      Notice every cartel pic has dudes with Barrett 107 A1 and A3s. I was involved in .mil sales to foreign nations. I did a lot of deals with Mx mil folks. The A3 has only been around 2 years and theyare all over. Again, being sold right off the trucks

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  6. Americans will go extinct if they keep messing with those high potent drugs. Those drug addicts look like zombies from the walking dead series

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    1. There is absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind that Mexicans using there own drugs now is fueling a huge part of the nearly inconceivable violence. The hard drugs, the crystal, meth for the masses.......a generation ago smoking mota was about it and even that not that publicly. Kids coming up in a hard drug fueled culture can only turn out one way. They are mentally challenged,
      moral compass askew, their whole lots of families tweaked out and embracing the narco cultura along with Corruption and impunity from the top down........it is all a recipe for disaster;
      We know “ just say No “ doesn’t work, we know the WODrugs hasn’t worked. I don’t see any simplistic solution on any side of any borders, it is almost like Mexico has to hit the proverbial bottom, which we keep thinking we are seeing and then we wake up to even more unbelievable more hideously violent news.......lots of families I know have become evangelical Christians just to give them moral compass and a collective of people with the same values. It is not the religion , but the community collective ness to keep their families on a more traditional path.

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    2. Nicely put Yaqui.
      Family values and respect within communities have dwindled indeed. Moreover, where morals are not being applied for ones self respect.
      A dire need for many communities today.


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    3. It is hard to say no to drugs when all you are going to get paid is in SPECIES, because dineros is hard to get to, Yaqui.
      The lower level grameros know they must sell it or eat it, and they force sell it at gun point to their little shops that know better than to "Just Say NO", that how you turn a whole country on to drug addiction, give it for free and get a paying customer for life in no time, that how it started on the US, with free tokes.

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  7. Look drugs and guns can be used in negative ways but so can food and power tools. We have become so far removed as society and as
    individual to be able to ever view these issues through the lense of unbiased rational. You don't have to like, use, nor agree with guns or drugs to understand that keeping these things illegal or in dark shade of gray area is only contributing to more harm period. Incentive is the word of the day I challenge us all here to think critically about what this word really means and how it applies to the actions of people. The harder one tries to prohibit these things the more they will creep up like a symptom of a sickness. And folks that sickness at one of its deepest levels is the inability or unwillingness to be honest with ourselves and each other. If I dont understand something don't call me names, help me understand constructively, the better points when properly conveid should be self evident. Amen

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    1. Good luck teaching that to the masses. Me,Myself, and I are the only thing people hear. It is very hard nowadays to find someone willing to help someone else if they can’t benefit from it.

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  8. How much is the markup for guns taken to Mexico from Texas?

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  9. A porter is an archaic term for turret gun.

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  10. Or they might mean “Sporters” which is nomenclature for an ar15 rifle.

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  11. But...but...Mexico has gun control. Hence this story is impossible. :>)

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  12. Note: to all you gun experts out there ; I have NO idea what they mean by "porters" ; perhaps grenade launchers ???

    i'm guessing they are referring to magazines, both because they are "carriers" for ammo and because the relative #s seized make sense relative to the #s of guns and rounds of ammo. pretty sure they would have mentioned grenade launchers separately. also, the "14 mine rifle" is probably a Ruger Mini-14.

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  13. Seems to be bad news for HK.German press might again start writing BS as they did it last time with the HK G36 in Mexico.
    I see a bunch of Ak47 and more US build high powered rifles nut they will go for the German ones.

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  14. Note: to all you gun experts out there ; I have NO idea what they mean by "porters" ; perhaps grenade launchers ???

    I think they are the "magazine" cartridges.

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  15. Can there be a possible reduction of drug trafficking if this administration imposed death penalty for dealers?
    Would this policy deter one from participating?
    Furthermore, knowing that money will continues to outweigh a perilous consequences?

    Opinions anyone?
    E42

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    1. E42 It will not deter an addict the least bit.The Mexicans too it will not deter as they are exempt from the death penalty but it might deter a guy who is drug free and doing it only for the money to not cut it with fentanyl.

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    2. 5:34 I don't think elimination of drug control is what matters to the "present administration" that used to protect and patronize drug dealers of all persuassions, as long as they share their ill gotten gains, like "losing some on their casinos or their buddies and goodfellas, rent their hotels rooms and buy their condos, and invest on their enterprises, without making waves, like 3 times convicted drug trafficker Joseph Weichselbaum, google.

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    3. I doubt it would work for the average Joe since the majority of narcos die in a painful way. A easy death on a table where tou just fall asleep will not be a deterrent for these guys. Maybe the death penalty for politicians who collude and are corrupted by the DTO’s will work better. The drug dealing start at the top with EPN and trickles down to the 10 year old look out.

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    4. Mike Levine, former BATF and DEATH agent discovered the corruption of the DEA, FBI AND CIA long ago, in the 80s and 90s, and has been vociferous in denouncing it, even bearing witness against them in some cases, you can Google his books, articles and videos FOR DAYS, he blames people, government, institutions AND NAMES NAMES, have a good day E42...

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    5. @ canadiana
      Few months back not sure of date, a Mexican National was executed by lethal injection in Texas. Note: an infuriating fact that caused further tensions between Mexico and US.
      With issues of national security at forefront ( crime / drugs ) laws imposing stricter sentencing are often implemented. History has proven this to be evident where a curtailment of an issue is present.

      E42

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  16. Yeah, yeah. Blame the US. If the Mexican Government would some balls & decide its time to fight for its people, the US demand would go down. Say what you will, it’s only a matter of time before US military boots are occupying Mexico. The Cartels are go greedy, they’re going rush a terrorist across the border & he will attack the US. That’s when the US government will send troops into Mexico.

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    1. That would be a grave mistake. Cartels are not that stupid to carry out what will inevitably be their very own existence.
      If dedication and pursuit from the US was not evident enough with the capture / killing of Osama Bin Ladden.

      Never heard of a lifeless body yet that’s getting paid!

      E42

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    2. Sorry not our war. When the U S gets in these conflicts it ends up being our fault.

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    3. E42 - "Cartels are not that stupid to carry out what will inevitably be their very own existence".

      I think history has proven otherwise on this one buddy.

      Cartels have shown to do just about anything if the $$$ are right.

      For instance, lets say someone from CDN or Old School Zeta's was contacted by an unknown, asking to have 15 people smuggled over the border. In turn, they are promised a $50-100 million(USD) payout. Do you think they would really turn that down?

      I know $50-100 million is a lot of money, but that's a drop in the bucket to a lot of Saudi Princes, Sheikhs, and other oil tycoons from all across the middle the middle east that have every desire to bring terror to the United States.

      If this did happen, it would inevitability end up with troops on the ground and drones in the sky. The Mexican government depends so much on the United States for aid, trade, and commerce they wouldnt really be able to say no. On top of that, i think the majority of Mexican citizens would be more willing to stand up against the cartels and corrupt government officials knowing the U.S. was in their corner.

      Phelpso

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    4. This is just silly. There are far easier ways to get into the U.S. than hiring a cartel to smuggle you across. Especially if you have Saudi Prince money. Most illegals get into the United States the easy way. By plane. And then simply overstay their visa (tourist, business, student, etc.). Why pay $50-100 million to a cartel? That's just stupid.

      But let's say they did want to pay this. A cartel would be more likely to fleece a Saudi Prince, Sheikh or other terrorist and not deliver than they would be to actually collaborate with them and help them. They'd take the money and run. Only they wouldn't even need to run. What is the Saudi Prince going to do, come and find them in the mountains of Sinaloa and demand their money back? OK.

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    5. I understand your sarcasm, and you're totally right. It is silly and ridiculous. But lets be honest, more ridiculous things have happened.

      Anyways, the semantics you're pointing out wasn't really the point of my comment. The idea Narcos wouldn't/couldn't do something that could inevitably lead to American incursion and their downfall was.

      Some of them would kill their own mothers if the money was right.

      Phelpso

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    6. Of 20 9/11 "plane hijackers" 19 were arabs, got in with visas, one got caught trying to get in from CANADA.
      --why the fuck is anybody blaming mexican cartels of terrorist bullshit?
      --weeks after 9/11, 2 Israeli MOSSAD agents were caught inside the mexican congress building with bombs and weapons, they were quietly released after negotiations with Israeli embassy, us ambassador and general Rafael macedo de la concha, their asset and a weapons trafficker.

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  17. Turns out opioids are the opiates of the masses

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  18. dang, was hoping to surf la saladita this summer.

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  19. "Porters" = the magazines for the firearms. The cuernos in cuernos de chivo. Only the cartels prefer AR style rifles to AK style rifles these days.

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    1. Dictionary got confused because, porters in Spanish is used for cargadores, like luggage carriers, (hotel porters)
      On the US they are magazines but not the weekly by weeklies kind you steal from the doctor's office before the age of the cellphones. These days people doesn't care for those mags, not even for free and at 10 dollars each retail.

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