Friday, September 15, 2017

García, Nuevo León: PGR Confirms the Finding of 149,000 Human Remains (bones)

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: PubliMetro

"Extermination Camp"
Garcia, Nuevo Leon
Extra Photos: Fundel
Sept 14, 2017

From May 31 to date experts from the State Attorney General's Office have found 149,000 bones in a building in the municipality of Garcia, Nuevo Leon, detectives revealed to the  relatives of missing people on Thursday.

In a tour carried out within the estate between family members and prosecutors in charge of the search, they were informed that from the fragments obtained it may still not possible to obtain any genetic profile to identify the victims. "We do not know how many people account for this many fragments," said one of the persons responsible for the search of the families.

The group belonging to Families United for Our Disappeared in Nuevo Leon (Fundenl) said they are not satisfied with the information obtained, because there is nothing concrete about what was found there. "We only know that there are almost 150,000 remains, but we do not know to they belong, we don't know who they are" said one of the mothers who accompanied the group.



Mothers and  Members of FUNDENL
Leticia Hidalgo, representative of the organization, reported that in 2016 they noticed that the authorities had intervened where they were searching, and in that place a thousand fragments were secured, of which they collected 52 DNA profiles.

Commemorate Crosses at the Crime Scene
"When we arrived with Father Solalinde and tried to put a cross we noticed that where we were nailing the crosses human remains appeared, ....... human remains that the Attorney General had not found before."

"We started digging ourselves and all over there was more remains, so we asked that the prosecutor's office to open another phase of investigation and the result is this: nearly 150,000 fragments and no knowledge of how many were killed in this extermination camp," said Hidalgo.

A prosecutor who accompanied the group, and asked not to be identified, assured the families that the remains found inside the building were in very bad condition, thus the conditions to extract the profiles were complicated.

"Most of the remains are found to be calcinated, ie, burned. The process is complicated because it is not possible in many cases to obtain a profile to which we can extract DNA," said the Attorney General.

Of the thousand remains located in 2016, only 52 were sampled for DNA and 25 people have been identified, 27 remain unclaimed;  among the remains already identified, there are some policemen who had been abducted by the Los Zetas group in 2010.


The results of the analysis of the 149,000 fragments could take six months, an PGR spokesperson said.

68 comments:

  1. Meanwhile cjng is in process of taking Nuevo Laredo plaza from cartel noroeste that is spliting in two groups (zetas) AGAIN...

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    1. Then Matamoros/old-school Z are going to wipe them out when peña is out and those tweakers are out of government protection.

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    2. 1:59 by the time epn is out of power, governor francisco javier garcia cabeza de guey will be just about consolidating his hold onto tamaulipas, and planning to jump into the politics of maybe getting to be the PAN candidate for the presidency, he was already swimming in millions and millions of pesos before he got elected panista mayor of Reynosa, with support of priista thomas yarrington, pinchi bola de culeros.
      --but this crime scene in Garcia, Nuevo Lion, seat of the power of El Bronco Rodriguez? no wonder some call el pony la mula bronca, one more phony politician friend of carlos salinas de gortari and epn, AND general Salvador Cienpedos, mexican secretary of "defense" and a murdering halcon CHILANGO since MEXICO 68, MOPHAKAS SURE HAVE A LOT OF ESPLAININ' TO DO.

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  2. I know the politicos and police make a lot of from the Zetas. Think doing to Mexico. No wonder the Mexican want to move to U.S.

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    1. What mexicans want to move to the US? Mexicans crossing illegally is all time low for nore than 5 years. Central americans now. Learn some geography.

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  3. U.S. is nice has the law and police

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  4. Those poor families. No closure

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  5. Allí entre las tinieblas ME PRENDO yo. Y a veces toca que alumbró CON MADRES. - Sol Prendido

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  6. On a border with a"world leader" they find this?

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    1. 6:57 cuando la perra es brava hasta a los de casa muerde. mexican generals "diplomados de estado mayor" mario ballesteros prieto and manuel diaz escobar, graduates from the School of the Americas and survivors of the MEXICO 68 olympic masacres and disappearances of tlaltelolco in mexico city, they were sent to help giniral augusto pinoichet, the US navy and the CIA in chile to consummate the murdering, tortures and massacres of the chilean military against their people in the early 70s, after about 40 years, Operation Condor gets to murdering mexicans, without so much noise, under other names and different commanders, and with much worser results, in the name of hypocrisy, this is what soft state coups look like, but behind it all, you can still see the makings of US manifest destiny...

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  7. Cjng just entered Nuevo laredo they're about to elminate the trash that plagues that entity. Goodbye golfas & zetas the michoacanos & jaliscos gonna annihilate your cockroaches

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    1. I remember a few posts of people from tamaulipas daring cjng to go to tamaulipas, well there you go.. It's an easy take over for an actual cartel, zetas and golfos are merely street gangs now. I bet Mexican mafia has more power then them now in days. There is like 6 golfo factions and like 5 zeta groups fighting each other, the police or military does not respect them like other cartels who let them conduct business. Marina see the zetas or golfos and yhey shoot them on sight even if they don't fire at them and they make sure they are dead.

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    2. 1:12 these are older murders,
      --it is not like cjng just murdered any of them two hours ago, save your shit for bdn

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    3. A millennial wannabe cartel composed of tweakers want to take the oldest cartel in mexico? Hahah! Jaliscas think because EPN is giving them protection the next administration is going to be the same. Ain't going to happen.
      Street gangs? Please go to Reynosa.

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    4. Damn didn't know there was zetas fan base, don't need to go anywhere to know the zetas and golfos are running around getting shot and killed by marina almost daily. Nobody respects zetas no more. After el verdugo that cartel went to sh!t.cdg is a litle more organized but are fighting each other and can't get their $hit to gether.. Common sense will tell you cjng will take that plaza.. Just watch

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    5. 5:54 where have you been, look back a few post here and you will see recent police and marina killing zetas and golfos like they get comission for each head.

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    6. 10:13 one thing is reading articles on the internet and other is LIVING there. I go to MTY and stay there a few months out of the year. I go to Tamaulipas too. No way CJNG is taking those plazas. You don't know how tamaulipecos and regios are. Just because CJNG has protection from the government doesn't mean it'll last and once EPN is gone shits gonna hit the fan for mencho.
      Marinas and law enforcement just killed a high profile CJNG in JALISCO a few weeks ago.

      Z/CDG have been fighting alone against ALL for more than a DECADE and they're still there. I remember mata zetas and Barbie were saying Z were going to be history by 2009 lol that's you "common sense" . I remember in the early 2000s Barbie (again a native from laredo and not a pacific narco) had protection from the federales to fight golfos and Z. he failed at the end.
      Same right now CJNG will come and go and CDG will control the gulf as usual after jaliscas are gone.



      It seems pacific cartels always need daddy government to feel strong lol.
      You seem to think Z/CDG structures are just composed by sicario cells. Those are just disposable pawns. The real leaders and families with money that control those cartels are not public and known figures unlike CJNG structure.

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    7. 3:46 just because you go by there a few times you think you know how Sh!t works? I live in san diego and i go to Tijuana a few Times per month but i don't know who runs what just like all locals that are not in the game. You sound like carreteradurando or el rielero lol yes, i agree about golfos being strong back in the day but if you really know your Sh!t like you claim you do you would know that golfos are fighting each other. There is about 6 diferent factions working INDEPENDENTLY and fighting the other golfos (gangs). That cartel went down the toilet after lazcano tonto

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  8. The graveyard known as Mexico

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    1. 149,000 pieces of human remains like bones and such. This is not 149,000 specific humans bodies found. This article is probably intentionally misinterpreted for I, read the original online. This amounts to maybe about 400 actual people dead. It is still a horrendous discovery but not to your assumptions probably.

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    2. Hey anonymous that is totally unfair. See where we further define BONES? Be nice and apologize to the reporter for your silliness.

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    3. 1:21 just needs a new wig, a new purse,
      and perhaps some new glasses

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    4. Because you asked Chivis I, apologize for what is being said. Just that I, wish Mike Pence over @9:56 would be blocked from getting his intel about Mexico here on BB.

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    5. ok now you made me feel a little bad, because you are so nice. I like Mike Pence smart, great governor why do you call 9:56 that? anyway He is allowed to express his opinion, over the top for sure but it is based on fact, just exaggerated. Probably to get his op noticed. No prob by me. Worse is HuffPo and WaPo making wildly inaccurate claims about Cabo San Lucas being dangerous and insecure. Mixing the story with facts about Cabo del jose, 20 min away and violent. I perused the State Department records going back 2 decades and found not one american killed in cabo or involved in a violent situation. CSL is protected for obvious reasons, and when the gob saw the uptick in narco violence next door they sent in the troops to watch over CSL. Being aware, vacationing smart, knowing whee not to go is key. I was surprised that so many Americans die in CSL...but from drownings! Next, drug ODs, a few car accidents and suicides.

      Bad reporting over cabo. and that hurts the people who work in the industry. I have a great source there. and I am told tourism is up! In cabo SAN LUCAS. So people are not buying it. On the Yucatan side, which along with Cabo had the lowest murder rate, has had an uptick. even IN the resorts, which are typically safe.

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    6. Sorry again Chivia. I, meant to say Jeff Sessions @9:56.

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  9. Lazcano brought unnecessary hell to NL and for that reason he and other short lived deserters lived short poor lives and are worthy of no respect.

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    1. Chapo caused hell in Tijuana and made juarez the #1 murder capital if the 🌎 a few years, but sinaloas idolize him like a god.

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    2. el lazca was in tamaulipas, zacatecas, cuaguila, san luis putosi, and hidalgo state, but he made his bones murdering the mexican indians that protected and covered up for El Sub-comandante Marcos in chiapas guerrero and oaxaca when he was made a GAFE WITH TRAINING WITH THE KAIBILES courtesy of the School of the Americas, lazca became a very well trained mastiff for the federal police and the military that wanted the CDG plazas, they just murdered innocent people for fun and ransoms in their spare time...

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  10. Zetas were so hardcore. Kind of like a Mexican gestapo. Can't wait to see the movie.

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  11. 726 aprox different persons...jesus talk about mass murdering with impunity. Thats just in Garcia, people rumor that in la presa de la boca and el cuchillo many hundreds were also disposed off. PRI and PAN are the same shit but different color and they all as guilty as the killers.

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  12. Comandante GAFE of the CDN cought in Guadalupe, Nuevo Leon strong hit for the CDN seems that inside fight in the CDN could be true.

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    1. Les van a tronar las nalgas a todos estos cartelitos de pandilleros. Monterrey fue secuestrado por las pandillas apoyados x los golfos y z(cdn).

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    2. 5 a tus jaliscas ya se les va acabar el corrido ya va a salir el picahielo del mencho y no van a encontrar donde esconderse como las cucarachas asta Peña nieto va a chingar a su madre ¡¡¡ según ellos van a ser una limpia de ratas para robar ellos eso es lo que están peleando por ratas le quitaron el apoyo al cartel de SINALOA

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  13. The government is in a dilemma:
    1. allowing DNA testing of all these fragments will undoubtedly led to many disappeared then appearing in the statistics of murdered: which is bad
    2. the search groups are stubborn and will not go away if identification is not carried out and will make waves: which is bad

    Lets hope the search groups are successful (and not made to disappear too!) and the truth comes out.

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    1. there will be a big show by the gob and nothing will happen. remember the san fernando graves at the same time durango? hundreds [450 or 500] of full bodies and the press was there, the gov transferred the bodies for DNA and autopsy to DF. and told families of missing to give DNA. yet when the families went they were told there was no money for DNA.

      The american who was ID already the family had his and their dna samples ..this is something i recommend if you are going to spend time living and working in Mexico leave a same with your family. I did.

      so Mexico took dna form most of the SF remains and made a data bank but did not take from the families. in dgo they did not even test the dead. very few. they said "many had been there for a few years" as if that is an excuse.

      I had an idea for years. making a national DNA data bank, an ngo foundation 501c3 or something. and advertise heavily. this system would pay for the dna test of dead found in caldestine graves or unidentified persons. many of those are economic migrants, with poor families. and maybe collection samples at the casa migrantes and other shelter to add to the bank. I know it is big thinking, but that just means a challenge that would be very satisfying to conquer. a test in the U.S. can be as low as 60 dollars.

      ann devert had a good idea, however more difficult to achieve, i think. an app that would be a "Know before you go" giving information of security climate of a given city and region. Up to date and with "incidents" in the past 60 days or so. that is easy to set up, but needs lots of manpower. I don't know if it could be volunteer driven, i say no. but maybe a combination of paid positions and volunteers. NOTHING is more valuable then the human asset. I say keep you 100 bucks and come work with me :) I am serious, I say that often.

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    2. We SF don't discuss the killings.it happened. Discussion over.

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  14. its a shame for the government that mexicio is becoming a huge graveyard. i hope times are changing.

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    1. I have been waiting 11 years. Maybe in the future. Lol

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  15. Wow!
    Like that of other countries were attention and awareness is met with United Nations assistance.
    However, where little to no effort is of concern to Mexico.
    Unbelievable!
    Where's the humanity in that scenario?

    E42

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    1. The UN is not welcome in Mexico
      El SS1

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    2. United nations doesn't care about Mexicans! That's only for Europeans

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    3. the United Nations got tamed years ago, witholding their budget worked wonders for the US government that did it to keep them silent, DNA tests could be real cheap if labs were set up in mexico, but the mexican government has 0 zero 0 interest, because killing mexicans for ransoms, robberies and their ranchos is one of their biggest money makers for politicians all over mexico, they would not stand a review of the land titles, from veracruz to nayarit and from chihuahua and californias to cancun, pinchi bola de ratas, alvaro uribe velez did the same all over colombia

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    4. Good input 6:21
      Very probable as to why things are and continue!

      E42

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  16. That looks like a genocide. Mexicos land has lots of minerals. That is what happens in Africa

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    1. NO is not, that's mexicans killing each other because of corruption, because of drug cartels, because of greediness also.

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    2. @5:31 be careful for telling truths like that: you might be labelled a conspirationist!

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    3. 5:31 you are RIGHT, ZEMBLA TV has some nice enlightening reports, you're welcome, and please keep posting,
      --and fack the "conspirationist" put downs

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    4. No different than Chicago

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    5. When you destroy the young generation it will have a toll on the natives from Mexico. You might not see it now but let some years go by and you will see how the population is being exterminated.

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    6. Ive been spreading this message all over youtube videos & havr gotten some postive feedback, maybe we can start opening more eyes to this & stop this dirty war started by the us & mexican goverment agencies

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  17. Things like this make the government's statement that 100,000 have been killed since 2008 seem far too low. More like 400,000 dead.

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    1. I estimate 275K at the low end. They never include the missing no matter how many years pass, and they do not count missing migrants which are 10to12k per year.

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    2. a few months before his term was over Calderon made a brave statement...that every border town was a narco town in complete control of cartels. secondly he said, and this is long ago that in the border states at least 25K dead had not been discovered.

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    3. what would be a good old little war without at least
      500 000 victims?
      --one thang's fer sure, FECAL'S war on drugs and cartels was financed by the US and their Mierda Accords, and paid for by innocent mexicans to supplement the body count of the weakest and the incompetent narcos, grameros and estacas that do not make enough money for the maruchan, the US paid like 3 billon dollars in about 7 or 8 years, and its only results was the destabilization of mexico and mass murdering genocide, no russians to blame for that...
      --just like the saudis from saudi arabia paid france 3 billion dollars to arm the lebanese for their self defense that ended up on the hands of ISIS, supplemented with american drops of supplies that mysteriously ended on the wrong hands of ISIS too...

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    4. and Clintons monetary 5B gift to NK to promise not to build nukes, and Obama sending pallets of U.S. currency in unmarked plane to Iran for American prisoners and the Iran deal. 400M and another 1.3B after the hostages were released. and we did not get all the hostages. we should be seeing the poison of that deal within 2 years. NK is just the trial run. the rehearsal

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  18. This is genocide, sickening to say the least.

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  19. How many bodies would 149000 thousand bones be?

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  20. Los z son unos cobardes la mera verdad unos gusanos ...

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  21. The wasn't Zetas. This was the government. No other way this would be possible.
    The numbers are too high and the information is non existent. This is population control at its most darkest hour. And too close to the border where the USA knows nothing either.

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    1. 10:21 los zetas are allied with governments all over the country, as is any other organization that pays their dues, it took them a long time to catch up with the fact that the governments sell the plazas two three of more times to anybody with a few million dollars, from little ranchos to municipalities and state governorships, all for sale to the highest bidder, and to the lowest too, as lomg as their money is green, politicians need their centabos for their retirement too you know?

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    2. local authorities do not want it known what is going on in their governed lands, THAT IS WHY CRIME VICTIMS GET DISAPPEARED AND DISSOLVED, i wonder how many properties el bronco rodriguez has, he used to be the mayor of garcia NL when this shit was ragging on, and the disappeared was gone by the whole families to leave no witnesses.

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  22. They caught comandante gafe from cdn!!

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    1. Cjng is taking over tamaulipas, it's about time a real cartel took over and made some changes and bring order to the f uped communities. Something Mexican government can't ever do for their people

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    2. 1:03 PM

      Say that when they dare to step foot in Reynosa and Matamoros. Even old-school Z arw in Laredo. Jeez you're tripping.

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  23. There's 206 bones in a body about 80 people

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    1. you are assuming the bones are not fragmented, which is unlikely

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