Wednesday, February 1, 2017

"EL Lobo"Hodoyan of the CAF gains his freedom

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Zetatijuana article

Subject Matter: Alfredo Hodoyan Palacios
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required


Reporter: Zeta Investigations
After 20 years in prison, Alfredo Hodoyan Palacios, of the Arellano Felix cartel, won an amparo and his liberty. He was exonerated of a quadruple homicide of Federal Agents and a Taxi driver in Mexico City in 1996. Before a Judge had condemned him to 50 years in prison. Statements made against him by persons including Everardo " Kitty " Paez were declared void. "El Lobo" was imprisoned in three Federal Penitentiaries the last of which was Cefereso # 15 in Chiapas. (Otis: El Lobo was one of the infamous "CAF narco juniors", most cartels recruit from the poor and working classes, the narco juniors were sons of well to do families from Tijuana, the narco juniors sought power and status through a life of crime with the Arellano Felix clan).

In 2002, a Judge condemned him to 50 years in prison. He was imprisoned for 20 years in maximum security prisons like Altiplano, also in Tamaulipas and Chiapas. Today he saw Tijuana again, his city, where he had a relation with the Arellano Felix brothers, who he knew since his childhood.

The First Tribunal in Penal Matters of the Second Circuit, with residence in Toluca, Mexio State, conceded an amparo promoted by Miguel Alfredo Hodoyan Palacios and with it his liberty. The Judge of Guarantees left with effect the sentence for the homicides of four persons and associated crimes.



The protection of the Federal Judgment that arrived for the nicknamed "El Lobo" advertised the existence of illicit proof in the penal cause that was brought in 1996. He was accused of qualified homicide by the sub delegation of Federal Judicial Police in Tijuana. Ernesto Ibarra Santes, two of his colleagues and a taxi driver in Mexico City, as well as belonging to the Cartel Arellano Felix.

According to the ruling by the Judges by majority, not unanimously, " even when the crimes were credited, the responsibility of the claimant was not demonstrated in the commission of the crimes, as this was said in different statements of the co-guilty that were collected in violation of the right to an adequate defense".

For what was seen as criminal association, two of the magistrates arrived at the conclusion of that " it was not proven either the elements of the crime or the criminal responsibility of the complainant, because this was held with the statements of the co-accused and the public documentary, one of whom practised in the United States of America, whose demonstrative effectiveness was affected because they did not give notice of the availability of the assistance of counsel".

The start witness statement was given by a sicario of a criminal organization, Everardo Arturo Paez Martinez "El Kitty", detained by the PGR in November of 1997 and extradited to the United States at the start of May of 2001. "El Kitty" was involved in the assassination of the Federals.

In the divided judgment of the Superior Court, a Judge voted against the resolution and did not share in the majority decision. That judicial officer believes that there is a "collision of rights and a possible diplomatic conflict, therefore I think that the best thing is to request of the Supreme Court of Justice of the nation to exercise its power of attraction".

Benjamin and Ramon Arellano Felix
That is to say, the trial should not have been resolved in the court. Or in its defect, is pointed out the dissident Judge, it was possible to grant to amparo for "effects" and not the " plain and simple" judgment", as it finally happened. According to the Judge it was right to "outlaw those statements in which those persons were not made aware of their right to an adequate defense".

Doctor Santes

With the amparo obtained, "El Lobo" Hodoyan was freed of the accusation of the assassination of the Doctor Ernesto Ibarra Santes, a man seen as incorruptible, commissioned by the PGR to the plaza of Tijuana, to diminish the operations of the CAF. It was "El Yankie", as he was called the Commander in Chief of the State, of the then PJF and who was administratively called Deputy.

 The death of the Doctor by profession, but a Policeman by vocation, happened on September the 14th of 1996, only two days after the arrest of the brother of Miguel Alfredo, Alejandro Hodoyan Palacios, who was eventually held at military installations and handed over to the DEA in the United States, to finally disappear, and to date his whereabouts are unknown.

Ibarra Santes had flown that morning to Mexico City to meet with the PGR. At the airport he took a taxi accompanied by two Federal agents, Israel Moreno flores and Juan Aaron Rosas Gallegos. When they were travelling down the Avenue Insurgentes on the corner of Gomez Farias, they were attacked with gunfire from different angles by an armed commando were waiting for them. The thee policeman died together with the taxi driver Juan Arturo Hernandez Lizarde.


Investigations launched by the authorities arrived at the conclusion that the attack was orchestrated by the brothers Ramon and Benjamin Arellano Felix, who were disgusted at the persecution that he had initiated against them, and his discourse before the press, where he affirmed he was finished with them.

Among the suspect of the quadruple homicide were ex military Gerardo Cruz Pacheco "El Capitan, the gunman Francisco Cabrera Castra "El Piedra", and Miguel Alfredo Hodoyan Palacios.  (Otis: also suspected was Fabian Martines Gonzalez "El Tiburon"). The first were apprehended months after by the PGR, and sent to Cefereso #1 Altiplano. El Lobo was captured in the United States together with Emilio Valdez Mainero "El Radioloco", they were extradited to Mexico in January of 1998 and also sent to Altiplano at Almoloya de Juarez.

In September of 2002, a Judge of the Federal Penal Processes in Mexico State found El Lobo, La Piedra and El Capitan guilty, and sentenced them all to 50 years in maximum security prison. On top of that El Lobo was given in total 176 years in prison including a fine of 17,500 pesos in compensation to the families of the dead taxi driver and relatives of the Federal policemen.

Emilio Valdez, who was also convicted of criminal association, was the first to leave Altiplano after three years. Immediately he devoted himself to a legal battle in Tijuana to recover the property seized at the time by the Federal Attorney General.

In Tamaulipas

Owing to events happening at Altiplano prison between members of the CAF and people of Osiel Cardenas Guillen, in 2004, Alfredo Hodoyan was sent to Cefereso #3 Santa Adelaida, in Matamoros, where he stayed for more than a decade.

The amparos promoted by El Lobo were constant, firstly because he wanted to return to Altiplano, after disciplinary sanctions restricting the sale of various products in the Federal prison shop.

The last years he spent in Tamaulipas were more tranquil. His amparos were more for the claim of rights than any punishments he was receiving. Thus, in 2009 when he was denied access to the delivery of documents related to his defence drafted by his lawyers, through the family. After that were a litany of complaints because he allegedly was not receiving sufficient quantity of food.

The penitentiary authorities responded to his demands by saying that the inmate Hodoyan was proportioned food sufficient in quality and quantity and that the food standards were supervised by a nutritionist, before and after their preparation.

Since his arrival at Matamoros prison, El Lobo had difficulties with the administrative authorities. He had an obsession to watch TV, and promoted such in his amparos. Since 2004 one was authorized and was taken to the prison by family members. He retained the right to keep his TV and received various TV's until 2011, when due to a disciplinary sanction, it was removed, along with his electrical socket, headphones and aerial.

El Lobo had ten days of punishment for disturbing the peace in the prison and failure to follow the instructions of the prison guards. He could not leave his cell during those ten days or receive visits from family or other inmates. His TV was removed for 6 months, during which time his conduct was being assessed. His alleged infringement was being naked in front of the other inmates, but before the disciplinary council he defended himself by saying after taking a shower, he had a fit of coughing and dropped his towel.

Months passed and his tv was not returned, while authorities monitored his behavior, to his dismay in 2013, the authorities denied his amparo and removed all of his electronic equipment.

In Chiapas

Owing to the closure of Cefereso #3 Noreste, in Matamoros, Tamaulipas, for remodelling, Hodoyan was transferred in November of 2015 to Cefereso #15 in Villa Comaltitlan, Chiapas. while other prisoners were transferred to other prisons in the country.

He now had a stay in a more tranquil prison, but as always he attempted to reclaim his rights and stimuli. In March of 2016 he complained that the prison authorities gave no response to his multiple requests, like authorizing his lawyers in the visits register.

In the Courts of Tapachula district he promoted more than a dozen amparos in the of "Lobo". In April past he claimed that the penitentiary personnel did not apportion him more food and liquids and did not enter judicial documentation, and that he lacked medical attention.

In June he promoted four amparos. He insisted about his lack of medical attention and inadequate food and drink, he was granted a protection of justice for proportioning of the medical diet that he required. Another demand was promoted for segregation and isolation, and more that he was denied the ability to exercise within his cell, and the usual refusal of authorities to allow him to watch tv. In this last request and in another he received permission to do outdoor exercise in an amparo granted by Judges.

July past he claimed he had been held incommunicado and in November he promoted an amparo of guarantees not to be transferred to any other prison. This amparo judgment was pending, and the constitutional hearing was dated for January the 20th 2017, being a few days before the close of this edition he gained his freedom.

Original article in Spanish at Zetatijuana

The following is not part of the original Zeta article and is some background info by OBFW from a New York Times article for Clarin on"who El Lobo" is, and some of his history prior to imprisonment.

when the man in the video tape started to reveal the secrets of the most violent gang of narco traffickers in Mexico, he could not hide his nervousness. Alejandro Enrique Hodoyan had been a junior member though well positioned in the organization of narco traffickers. He recounts form the centre of the scene and relates with a pausing voice how his brother and a circle of friends from infancy united into a criminal gang that killed dozens of policemen, Judges, rivals in the business of drugs and innocents.

Killing was a game for them, Hodoyan told Mexican investigators. They had no remorse, after killing someone, they would laugh and go to dinner. His testimony included in eight hours of video tape and more than 200 pages of transcriptions, is seen on some sides  of the border as a step forward in the fight against narco traffickers in Mexico.

The Mexican functionaries said that his revelations already accelerated the renunciations against dozens of police officials accused  of having links to the organization with base in Tijuana, headed by the Arellano Felix. Hodoyan, a North-American citizen who was born in San Diego, and lived the major part of his life on the other side of the border in Tijuana, was kidnapped, and detained illegally for eight days by officials from the Mexican Army.

After he told his family how he was tortured with electrical probes. North-American diplomats were advised about Hodoyan a short while after he was imprisoned, but they did nothing to help him. When his family reported him as missing, an anti-narcotics agent from the Embassy of USA defended their handling of the case by saying that Hodoyan had not complained at any time of being tortured before any American official in Mexico.

The story of the experiences of Hodoyan were collated from interviews with his family, US officials in Mexico and the Mexican Courts who knew him as an informant. In December 1996, the military who supervised his interrogation handed him over to the US appointed principal officer on drugs in Mexico, who was appointed partly because of his success achieved in the fight against drug trafficking using information supplied by Hodoyan.

Two months after, this official, General Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, was imprisoned accused of collaboration with Amado Carrillo Fuentes, El Senor de los Cielos, the fallen leader of the Juarez Cartel. The Mexican functionaries suspected that a grand part of the information extracted by the General was given into the hands of Carrillo Fuentes. Since then, the army increased its investigations into another thirty-three officials, including four Generals, on charges of corruption and narcotics.

The Hodoyan brothers were from a good family, they were not good candidates for a career for a life in crime. Their mother, Cristina, of 55 years was a devoted Catholic from a honourable Mexican family. His father, Alejandro Hodoyan Ramirez, 63, was a civil engineer very respected in Mexico.

The Hodoyans hoped to raise their children with the best of American and Mexican cultures. His three sons and only daughter were born in San Diego, but the family lived on the other side of the border in Tijuana, a city where drug trafficking, worth billions of dollars in recent years was an attraction, even for young people with good educations.

The Hodoyan children grew up in the discos of Tijuana where teens experimented with cocaine in the manner of wealthy young Americans. Mixing with Mexican gangs whose stars were rising in the sale of cocaine. One of the most rapid was Ramon Arellano, a gang known to members of the Hodoyan family in the high society of Tijuana.

It was summer, but Ramon had put on a Mink jacket and leather trousers. He wore a thick choker chain with a large gold cross encrusted with emeralds, said a Hodoyan relative, everyone was asking who he was. Mexican courts described Arellano as a compulsive murderer who killed for pleasure and who had been involved in more than 60 homicides.

He and his brothers began their careers as provincial drug dealers, but shot and bullied their way to seize control of drug smuggling along a western swath of the USA-Mexican border. One by one friends of the Hodoyans since childhood were drawn into the Arellanos circle of riches and violence.

Fabian Martinez Gonzalez, a grade school classmate of Alex Hodoyan younger sister grew up to become "El Tiburon", or the shark, He is accused of being one of the Arellanos most feared gunman and was wanted for murder in Mexico.

Fabian Martinez Gonzalez "El Tiburon"

In Tijuana the Arellanos bought their way in the cream of society, in a normal situation, a family like the Hodoyans would never find themselves involved with traffickers.

And a little background from the New York Times on Ernest Ibarra Santes

The 50-year-old Ibarra had taken over the notoriously corrupt Tijuana federal police force just 29 days earlier and quickly became an outspoken critic of corruption among his own troops. He was the sixth senior law enforcement official from the city to be gunned down under mysterious circumstances this year.
The series of high-profile slayings has highlighted the growing violence of the Mexican drug wars. But it also has fueled conspiracy theories that government officials and rogue law enforcement agents -- as well as powerful drug lords who have long controlled the gritty city just south of San Diego -- may be involved in the murders.
None of the six killings has been solved. Ibarra, an 11-year veteran of the Mexican federal police force, was a classic example of a police officer with enemies on both sides of law. As a result, the circumstances of his death were all the murkier. They were compounded by government reports that $50,000 in cash was found in one of his suitcases in the trunk of the taxi.
Was Ibarra murdered by the nefarious Tijuana drug cartel? Or was he set up by disgruntled members of his own force? Was he a crooked cop on the take, like so many of the colleagues he criticized? Or was the cash planted by police who seized the bullet-splattered taxi? Considering police failures to solve the previous five murders of Tijuana law enforcement officials, it is unlikely that these questions and others raised over Ibarra's assassination will be answered.
Ibarra charged into his new Tijuana job last month criticizing his own force and contradicting his bosses before the local press, a sin that recently landed a former Tijuana law enforcement official, Ricardo Cordero Ontiveros, in jail.
"Police had become so corrupted that they weren't just friends of the traffickers, they were their servants," Ibarra told the Tijuana reporter for the Los Angeles Times in an interview two days before he was gunned down Saturday morning in Mexico City, where he was scheduled to meet with his bosses at federal police headquarters.
Ibarra's allegations echoed those made two months earlier by Cordero, who had worked for the federal attorney general's office in Tijuana before his resignation last year. Days after Mexican and international newspapers published Cordero's remarks, he was jailed in Tijuana on charges widely considered to be punishment for his outspoken views.
Ibarra, who began his Tijuana posting on Aug. 16 after a nationwide purge of more than 700 allegedly corrupt federal agents, saw half of his 120-member force fired in his first few days in office: some as a result of the mass dismissal, others as a result of his own housecleaning.
The Tijuana police commander also was vocal in promoting himself as an enemy of the leaders of the Tijuana drug cartel run by the Arellano Felix brothers, considered the most violent, powerful drug mafia in Mexico along with their biggest rival, the Juarez cartel.
Ibarra had directed a police sweep of four houses purportedly owned by the Arellano Felix brothers on Thursday, two days before he was killed. The four properties were seized along with 170 pounds of cocaine and 11 pounds of marijuana, according to government statements.
He had labeled Tijuana the cartel's "sanctuary," in contradiction to statements by federal officials senior to him that the Arellano Felix brothers no longer operate in Tijuana.
A common thread connecting all six Tijuana law enforcement assassinations has been their involvement in drug investigations. But another, more political motive has been given for the deaths of some of the five previous victims. Several of them had taken part in investigating the country's biggest unsolved murder, the March 1994 assassination of presidential heir apparent Luis Donaldo Colosio in Tijuana.
The case has raised as many conspiracy theories in Mexico as the assassination of John F. Kennedy provoked in the United States. Many Mexicans believe the murders of some of the investigators were part of a government coverup to whitewash the clumsy Colosio investigation. CAPTION: DANGEROUS PROFESSION: TIJUANA, BAJA LAWMEN
Three murders of police officers this year have led many Mexicans to believe that they are connected to a coverup of the flawed investigation of presidential candidate Luis Donaldo Colosio s assassination in March 1994.

78 comments:

  1. No sé mucho de la vida. Pero lo que si se es qué hay voy. Amando y tomando y de vez en cuando peleando. - Sol Prendido

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  2. Viva Viejo CAF...

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    1. Its DOA. Get over it.

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    2. El CAF sigue activo estupido!

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    3. 6:56 without caf,
      Tha caf is as active as DECAF,
      like a taco placero, without chile and without salt.

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    4. The guy in the right is not Ramon but Eduardo Arellano Felix.

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  3. Very informative information pertaining how Mexicos history and the drug trafficking business has influenced its political and government roots. Mexico originally main drug business began with the growing of marijuana . Columbia and other South American countries imported the cocaine . Now Mexico is the hub for drug trafficking of it all. The lucrative business market for cartels . The change from marijuana farm growers to an empire of the drug world.

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    1. After all these Federal PGR delegates were murdered, betrayed or imprisoned and fired, by a mere coincidence, lt. col. Julian Leyzaola got his nalgas on the prize, and cleaned out tijuas for himself and his spoonsors, a la verga con los arellanuses...
      pero nada cambió mas que los dueños de tijuas, I mean nothing changed but the owners of tijuas were able to work in peace for a little while in the middle of tha "mexican carnage"
      --then "el doctor" leyzaola had to be removed for torture and murder lawsuits and ended in cd juareeez, where his nalgas earned theirselves a wheel chair, but not before he returned for more moolah from the shearing of his lambs in cd juareeez... --still owned by the carrillo juentes, DON NETO'S GANG.
      --looks like all that clean up was for la chapa guzman, and the beltran leyvas that worked in relative peace unde el PAN until epn decided to plug their arses helped by genarco garcia luna, Carlos Slim Helu's man from the start of his police academy career until epn took over in 2012.
      --I wonder how many of his billion dollars "Mr Slim" made from all the mexican drug traffickers, but the donal' says if Mr Slim is a billionaire it is because he found some pennies on the sidewalk, but Mr slim owns his billions, not BLADDERMIR PUTIN...

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  4. Off the topic . There is a piece worth reading from Daily Mexican News . Mexicos corruption has become a tourist attraction.
    I'm sure most readers here would like to add to the list of attractions. Love it.
    However I do not see this tourist sideshow to continue in near future for safe concerns. Sure business permits and OSHA regulations do not meet Mexican approval.

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  5. A while ago I saw on the page of Gente de la Tia Juana that "Don Balas" had set a truce between Caf and Los Aquiles, im not living in Tijuana anymore, but if this is true, where does this leave people like el Piloto, Chencho Beltran, and Jaliscos faction, also, any updates on Edgardo Leyva Escandon?, he still appears as wanted by the U.S, also the rumor is that El Piloto is backed up by Ingenieros cousin

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    1. This piloto guy is still a mistary no proof he excist

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    2. It was true but we talking about a few years back when akiles took contro of la tia Juana. After the teos n muletas days

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    3. And that page trying to make it seem like if it was yesterday

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  6. 6 of the 8 kidnapped yesterday in Guerrero appear dead on highway nearby this a.m.:

    http://solochilpo.com/masacre-en-mazatlan-amanecen-seis-hombres-asesinados

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  7. CAF stronger than ever

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    1. Not stronger just wiser why fight when ur home to a border crossing town plus they Sub contract all their dirty work

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  8. He's back in TJ is that a good thing??

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  9. Mexico was more calm with CAF in control

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    1. You don't know nothing then, arellanos used to drive through Tijuana just killing people for the fun of it..

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  10. Bet u this sob will be dead in a few

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  11. Trump said in phone call to EPN, that if Mexico can't wipe out the cartels, he might have to send in US troops to do the job!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-enrique-pena-nieto-mexico-phone-call-humiliating-threatening-2017-2

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    1. Fake News
      -El Blanco Nieves

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  12. Right on, sad to know Alejandro went missing, are his parents still alive? Movie/Book time $$$

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  13. Ramon Arellano Felix could of been still alive if he would of listen to Benjamin..would of been the best reunion ever.

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  14. Did the crime, Did the time, MAD respect!

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  15. Good look with trying to be a law abiding citizen.
    -Sarai Fan Club

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  16. Does anyone know if this guy is related to el brasos largo from zona norte because supposably a relative of los higualitos had gotten released

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    1. 4:25 ay, no, the most interesting man in tijuas is "el nalgón", me hase sentir ñañaras, y quiero ser un "mano larga"-sol peyido.

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    2. Nalgon died of aids a while back

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  17. In 2002 he was sentenced to 50 We are in 2017
    He served 15 not 20

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  18. In Mexico, you are free, when the price is right. This guy's people paid the right price. I read the majority opinion of the court and it says alot of words that make up nothing.

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    1. On the US he would have served no time and he would have been paid compensation for torture, because he mexican.
      Others like John de Lorean got magazine interviews and a release because of the "entrapment", while others thrive on presidential pardons, even the CIA, the FBI, the DEA or the NSA, can't comment on any of it...for reasons of national security...
      --except if more of hillary's e-mails are 'suspected' to be in anthony weiner's laptop, in which case, the KGB and the FSB will send its US lapdogs commenting for the press on national TV...😇

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  19. Another murderer scum released by a corrupt judge. How much did he pay. This is why the guilty should be killed immediately.

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  20. Hola Chivis and BB. Check out this story is found on yahoo. El Nemesis-
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mexico-care-bad-hombres-us-might-231304076--politics.html

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  21. No mames good one

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  22. Psychopath! ... referring to "justice" in Mexico :-(

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  23. Ibarra Santes was no incorruptible, the guy worked for Amado Carrillo, just like Gutierrez Rebollo, his job was to get rid of los Arellano, but he failed.

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  24. Mayor of Toronto“We are here to recommit our city as a place of inclusion and acceptance, where people are welcomed and valued and where their fundamental rights are respected and enshrined,” Tory said. “In Canada we are almost all immigrants and no one should be mistreated or excluded on the basis of their ethnicity.”
    As a sanctuary city, Toronto provides all undocumented residents with full access to city services, regardless of their immigration status.
    The motion that will be put forward today calls for the city to reaffirm its status as a sanctuary city and to direct city departments, agencies and corporations to review their policies to ensure they are consistent with the city’s commitment as a sanctuary city.
    Lots of folks flying into Toronto and staying! There is even large numbers walking across open unchecked areas of the border and claiming refugee status.

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  25. Hope he writes a book about his narco junior life.

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    1. It's going to be a short book cuz the rest of it is going to be about how he was someone's biatch in prison.

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    2. Why? You really think he will let us know something different other than murder and greed?

      I myself hope he gets killed outside.

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    3. not anyone can write a book. It takes intelligence lol.

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    4. I'm in the U.S now. enjoying my daughter and nephews. making up for lost time. tijuana thats a closed chapter in my life. lo vivi y lo aprendi. suerte a los que siguen.

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  26. And Kitty Paez is still locked up???

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  27. 6:10 LOL . Seems like most of the book would be about prison .

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  28. I'm sure his brother got killed

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  29. these guys are legends

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  30. viva ramon arellano felix

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  31. Paes still in jail

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  32. Paez was recruiting them Logan 30ta boys to work in tj. Also a Logan boy from the ship yards was doing the same!

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    1. Is Logan still active with caf?

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  33. Comes from good family and not cut out for a life of crime ? But before in the article he was described as a cold blooded killer . Oh well . Some people see things different than me . The boy made a few mistakes , executed a few cops and rivals but he can turn his life around . Wouldn't cut out for this . Comes from a family with money . That was sarcasm if anybody was wondering .

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  34. Does anyone know what's the word on Jorge coquito Castro??

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    1. he died in 04-06' from colon cancer in prison.

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    2. Jorge died in kansas city fed prison.

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    3. Yea buddy many traffickers have and will die in US jails . We have been preparing to accommodate more . Now its changed , Trump say he will deal with the bad hombres

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  35. Good to have rehabilitated men back to work!

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  36. Revolucion nortena just made him a corrido called bien venido carnalito its on YouTube

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    1. wrong person bro.

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    2. Sorry do you know who's it for

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    3. Mono's little brother, they are twins los igualitos. One has just been released.

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  37. Now CJNG really taking over

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    1. yall have been saying that since the middle of last year still nothing has changed just some blows here and there

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  38. Logan does not have the pull no more in tj. That Logan boy in the shipyards stopped recruiting people for afo.

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  39. I think the Logan boy that works in the shipyards is related to Pato who worked for the afo

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  40. @ February 3, 2017 1:09 Pm, listen to a corrido on YT called "El joven del cuchillo", it is pretty clear it is for this Piloto guy.

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    1. Nope it's for el Joven del cuchillo aka Chucky you might remember he got caught and released a few weeks ago. He's just stating he works for piloto.

      -Casper

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    2. Wrong, is for some dude apodado el chucky CTNG

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    3. On the news, Walter White has been rehabilitated and nominated to head the DEA, he had to return, "they keep pulling him back, because with the new wall, real american 'intellec' is needed...

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    4. El chucky is definitely CAF , don't you read these articles

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  41. @February 5 12:29 AM that was posted early December of 2016 and it is about current times, for the sole fact that it mentions Jalisco.

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  42. Lol I love it y luego???

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  43. You people think that piloto is Arellano???

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    1. That was the rumor please educate us on this

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    2. Piloto is son of Ramon Arellano Felix, tigrillo Arellano also has a son they call JR. There is a few sons bearing the Arellano last name, they just don't put themselves on stage like Sinaloa does...

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