Friday, November 11, 2016

The mysterious end of El Gross

Original article available at ZETA
Translated by El Wachito


Arturo Gomez Herrera was murdered at a barbershop in the capital of Jalisco. The drug trafficker linked to CJNG was unarmed and alone. His body was immediately returned to his wife one day after his assassination. According to intelligence reports, his replacements will be his second in command known by the alias of "El Charmin" and "El 50". Authorities expect that his assassination will decrease to murder rate in Baja California.

Arturo Giovanni Gomez Herrera "El Gross" was murdered in Guadalajara, a city where he moved for three reasons:


1.- From the beginning of 2016, cells of the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion operating in Tijuana, had already put a price on his head.

"In reality there is a fracture between the Arellano Felix Organization and the Cartel de Jalisco and associates, it was provoked by Arturo Gomez Herrera, it is not a deep fracture, however they will solve it by eliminating the lieutenant responsible for it. They will kill 'El Gross' anytime soon", said a government investigator to ZETA last February of this year, after a period of assassinations and narcomantas.

2.- The Sinaloa cartel was also trying to kill him. Messages left in narcomantas over tortured and mutilated bodies were left, and they were located in La Sanchez Taboada of Tijuana and in Tecate and Rosarito, were the rivalry between Gomez representing the traffickers in Jalisco and Victor Hugo Meza Lopez "El Griego", of the Sinaloan Cartel was exposed.

3.- Gomez also left Tijuana because he was trying to avoid persecution from law enforcement. Because of his violent activities, local law enforcement insisted in his arrest, even during this year, the Procuraduria General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) tried to obtain two orders of apprehension against him, one for murder and another one for small scale drug dealing, in the murder case, a judge denied the orders more than two times because he considered that the witnesses were not able to fully identify the hit man, due to them not knowing his full name and all his nicknames.

His successors

Intelligence areas of the State of Baja California, consider that the restructure of the criminal cell will not have any problems, because since he left the state, two man stayed in Tijuana in order to execute his orders, and this will be the man that will command the organization. They are identified by the authorities, however, we will only mention their nicknames:

*"El Charmin", a direct family member of Gomez Herrera, who is the boss of "El Caiman", "El Kika", "El Pichon" and "El Dany".

*"El 50" or "El Goofy", who's cell consists of "El Snok", Castillo "El Rifat", Gomez "El Panchito" and Ramirez "El Burguer".




117 comments:

  1. All these guys a r e new beeis. No trai nada

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    1. It's the dope game. DTA. He was betrayed by someone he knew, they ain't no love in this fucking game.

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  2. So basically they killed el gross because he was a problem...he had to many enemies el cds el caf. Y para acabarla el cjng lo dejo solo.

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    1. Sounds like Jalisco gave him to them, he was doing to much.

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    2. Simply put; his past caught up to him

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  3. El gross estuvo al 100 kon el cjng pero la gente de sinaloa i tijuana ya avian decidido su destino solo era kuestion de tiempo dejaron en klaro. Kien mandan en la tia juana saludos para tj asta la mochila i california yo con unas viejonas i unas bukanas oy brindo porke sigo vivo

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    1. salud perro avienta mas historias del pasado

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    2. Porque corriste cuando los marinos mataron al Commandante phoenix ?

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    3. asi nomas quedo

      Pirata de culiacan

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    4. Y se te olvido mencionar que eres el macho de broli banderas y que fue un orgullo ser su macho

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    5. "El gross was 100% with cjng, but tijuana and sinaloa peoples had already decided his destiny, it was a matter of time, they made it very clear who the boss in la tia juana, greetings all the way to tijuana and la mochila, (los mochis) and california.
      I with some ladies and Buchanan today salute because I an still alive" translated for la fan del perro, Canadian Girl C

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    6. oiga y que quiere decir la mochila?

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    7. Fierro pariente ajua...arriba Durango

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    8. 2:01 its los mochis , sinaloa a small town there but people call it the back pack because im guessing it sounds and its writing o most the same saludos

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    9. 10:47 terrible translation candian girl please dont ever translate anything in your life thanks
      John McFarlane

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    10. 2:01 la mochila is a "clave" for Los Mochis, I bet 99% on it.
      Like Tijuana is a deviation of TIJUAS

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    11. Suck it John! How dare you make fun of someone trying to do something good.

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    12. Canadian Girl any translations are always appreciated,do it more often?And take no notice of smartarses like this clown(John McFarlane)This is a grown arse man jibbering about someone translating?What a bellend.John shut the fuck up,thanks

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    13. 7:47 PM
      Stop whining about translations

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    14. Start your own blog perra

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    15. 10:47 - tried to say thanks several times for translating but it wouldn't post. Interest is in others perspective (like Comm.Perro) especially when it garners other commentators to reply...and assist other non Spanish readers too.

      _Canadian girl

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    16. @4:30 no mames que inteligente saliste "clave" lol no mames

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    17. 8:00 some times we have to dumb it down for people like you, it helps the metaphysics of connecting...

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  4. Lets see all the cjng cheerleaders say it was mencho when back then they say caf and cjng where team up lol this was el griego who kill el gross personally 2 let them know sinaloa is their daddy

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    1. Lmao best coment on here str8 up cds did this on menchos turf that says it all

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    2. If sinaloa is cjng daddy then why is cjng mopping the floor with cds in tijuana, jalisco and colima..?

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    3. Lmao i feel u 9:32

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  5. Grupo codiciado has a bad ass song abouth el gross rip el grossero

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  6. He had it coming cause he is a traitor he was working for aquiles and jumped with cjng he deserved it hope they kill mencho like that or worse
    CTGM

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    1. I doubt any of Mencho's enemies would dare go looking for him unless they have a death wish. Only the Marines will get close enough to get Mencho. But first there are some Chapitos and Los Antrax that the Marines have to clean up.

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  7. Gross death was part of the CAF/CTNG deal.

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    1. Thats what others commented on the original,
      The second one says a mysterious death...

      It's mysterious cause why would you go to the enemies house to hide?

      It's mysterious cause why wouldn't the Federation leave a manta and have 5 corridos about this?

      Either way the cops said he was causing problems and would be popped off by his own people...

      Rather believe a corrupt official regarding the issue vs believe some shit comment by a ass hat calling himself The Commander "Dog"

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    2. Ultimaterly, don't blame nobody but yourself.
      Por andar ahi de calientes.

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    3. 7:19 lol I was thinking the same thing, where are the corridos if it was CDSnitches. The only thing CDS has the most of is fame, not good in the dope game. I know the cheerleaders will say, money, and I say cuinis. Cuinis have that Euro market, that's a lot of money with, due to a variety of factors comes in largely unmolested and with little interruption and interdiction. For every #701 there are men you haven't heard of. I will site an example: There was a book written in the 90s by two reporters, Jeff Leen and Guy Guggliota, it is called Kings of Cocaine, written about the Carrel of Medellin. In it they were talking about who in the group exported the most, I wish I still had it to quote the exact figures which I believe the authors got from ledgers at Tranquilandia lab but I think it was ochoas 1000-1500 (keys a week) Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha 1000-1500 Escobar 1500-2000 and the whole point of this rambling Juan Meijia 2000-2500.





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  8. Nothing mysterious here another one bites the dust

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    1. Even less mysterious is why he got killed.
      Por andar ahi de caliente.

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  9. So who killed him CJNG or CDS?

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    1. CJNG...Gross was attracting too much heat and was central to the divide between CAF and CTNG. With him out of the way Mencho can link up with the remnants of CAF and the new Sinaloan chapulines who left Aquiles for CJNG.

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    2. I'm assuming it was CJNG since he was hit in Jslisco. If El Gross was speaking freely with the informant then chances are it was members of his own crew who set him up. The actual hitmen didn't know him per se. The bloodshed will decrease because the instigator of the fracture was elimated. CAF and CJNG working together with no issues won't be good for CDS in BC and BCS.

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    3. Does it matter now that he is dead?

      It's a mystery who ever did it, maybe we metieron a la Cocina de mencho or maybe mencho invited him to the kitchen ...

      No mantas left so I doubt it was Federation, we all know how they are ...
      Titerrro fue

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    4. 12:26 Lo mataron por andar de pinchi preguntón. Haiga sido quén haiga sido.

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    5. It does matter 7:24 but you are right when you say it wasn't the federation. Score this one for El Mencho and the CAF connect. I think El Mayo is slapping himself on the nalgas for not backing El Lic right about now.

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  10. Something fishy. So he leaves Tijuana because CJNG is trying to kill him and he moves to GDL????? Hello

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    1. i just thought the same thing

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  11. I told everyone CJNG is a recycled cartel that changes name every 7 years, Unless you have a border corridor to call your own you aint nothing real

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    1. U don't know shit. Jalisco cartel and cuini cartel grew sending their work to Europe getting paid in euros n now pounds.in other words so stupid asses can understand their market was Europe. Oh yeah and if u want to be technical no organization in Mexico is a true cartel they're drug trafficking organizations that's it.

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    2. Well said my friend the cuinis and cjng have been moving alot of weight for a long time they were under the radar and barely people knew about them until a couple years back, for people that don't know they have used the tijuana border for a really long time always paying to the plaza but a while back they know they have really strong in money and power and saw a really big oportunity as soon as alot of independent drug dealers and and some ex caf and cds people went to them for backup and help to help to take over tijuana and alrededores they reviewed the idea and went in on it they are really smart they will not fight a plaza if they were not sure they could take over it they knew they would

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    3. Jalisco is getting credit for what the cuinis did prior to 2010. I don't care what bs articles on here say you don't become as wealthy as they claim cjng is in 5-6 years.

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    4. It's called consolidation 12:45. Homeboy from clan A marries into clan B. Homegirl from clan B marries into clan C. All three clans come together and consolidate their money. Each uses each other's connections, move weight and protect each other with no jealous from within. CDS could have completely taken over Mexico if they had that kind of loyalty to each other from within. But they had backstabbers marrying into backstabbing bloodlines and befriending other backstabbers. Then they start producing backing stabbing kids. So guess what happens they snitch each other out and destroy what they have built. That's why CDS is on life support as a cartel as we speak.

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    5. Cjng hAve Tijuanaon lock dumies.

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    6. cds on life support ? you must not know what you are talking about

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    7. Yes life support 2:28. Look back on CDS's hey day. Let's say 2010 and compare that year with what's happening in 2016. The problem is I do know what I am talking about and a lot of you Pom Pom cheer squads don't like to hear the truth. Mark my words when I say 2017 will be a tough year for the All Mighty CDS.

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  12. So is el Charmin a target as well? The article says he is a direct family member of el Gross.

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  13. Mencho ordered. Does anyone know "El Hamburger"?

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    1. I never met a a Hamburger I didn't like.

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  14. Didn't the earlier report say it was aquiles who sent his men to kill him?

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    1. It was first reported on gente de la tia juana. They sometimes lean towards Aquiles. El Nemesis-

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  15. He just politicked wrong..burned one too many bridges..got burned.

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  16. It obviously cds why would mencho kill a important head he had in tijuana ? Also by the looks that he was in jalisco whit no body guards or gun we can infer he was in good agreements whit cjng , this was a personal fued between sinaloa n tijuana

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  17. chivis, valor por tamaulipas posted tony tormenta's son picture and a little info on what he's doing now, its the same son who was arrested on 2011 you can compare pics. it looks like hes been free for a while

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    1. can you send a link? I looked going back a couple pages and saw nothing

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    2. ok here it is

      http://www.valorportamaulipas.info/2016/11/difunden-imagen-de-ezequiel-cardenas.html

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    3. Thank you...not much of a story. It looks like him, but question...how long was he in prison? I think he was arrested in 2011.

      His fathers final shootout was the most massive, violent, long conflict I have ever heard about in Mexico. It went on for 4 days and the violence continued all over the Tamps region. No news in the blackout state and the gob lied about casualties, narcos went nuts with kidnappings and killings. It was a horrific time that ended CDG as it was known, and strengthen Z's who has just split with golfo....... thanks again

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    4. what about the shootings in choix that lasted several days that was like 3-5 years ago.

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  18. Sinaloa killed him, however I'm confused about the mentioning of a CAF / CJNG split

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    1. 1:31 there isn't a split just a small fracture between CAF/CJNG that was caused by El Gross. It's important to mention because it gives the CAF/CJNG a motive to get rid of El Gross. It was just a matter of time before CDS or CAF/CJNG killed him.

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  19. excellent article here!
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/12/when-the-cartels-try-to-play-protector.html

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  20. Bola de pendejos.... Kien se puede replasar mas rapido??? EL Gross...o el Pheonix Antrax? Al Pheonix lo tumbaron en Culiacan... EL Gross era parte del CDS...So el todavia tenia lineas de contacto con ellos... Por esa rason a el No se pudo confiar... Ya con el muerto... CJNG pude replasarlo con alguien de Michocan...o Jalisco...un desconocido. Pero ke sea del circulo immediato. El Gross simplemente abrio el camino y los contactos para ke CJNG pueda operar en Tia Juana... Aber como replasan al Pheonix... PURO CJNGM... CUERNAVACA...MORELOS

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    1. No sea wey el phoenix antrax was second in comand of death cell squad los antrax el gross was a cell leader who cds couldn't gain ground because of him , it obvious los chinolas kill him puro cafetara aqui en tj

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    2. 7:36 eres de Tijuana pero niegas que cjng ayudo a CAF a cacabar con muchos del CDS y la tumbaron la plaza a cds. No digas tontadas que puro CAF, so no fuera por cjng ya estuviera todos muertos, por eso fueron los del CAF a pedir ayuda a mencho. Estan tontos los de Tijuana haha, siempre escriven puras tontadas como el mentado perro jaja

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  21. Gross was causing a lot of heat to the new leadership of CAF, he even called them out in a manta a few months ago, he was killed by CJNG, why they did it this way and not in private? simple, so they can blame CDS and keep the "loyalty" of gross´s people.

    Gross was a tweaker who brought too much heat into CAF/CJNG operations in TJ, his life as a usable puppet ran out.

    Don´t believe the crap Gente de la Tia post on their website, they even claimed they killed "El Boyz" from Zona Norte when he was killed by CAF for bringing heat to la zonaja.

    Gente de la Tia is an Akiles cheerleader website.

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    1. Contesta esto pues si muy chingones los del caf por k piden chichi a otras organizasiones?????? Just wondering

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    2. 7:55 everybody thinks the grass is greener on the "other side" and the mexican government will provide the paint.

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    3. No Seas pendejo la alianza ase la fuerza compa y puro ctng

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  22. So to run away from a cjng hit he ran to Guadalajara? This makes no sense, he must have had a deal with someone with Cjng or he wouldn't be in gdl

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  23. El Wachito what have you heard about El Lic and Mini Lic? It appears like their roll within the CDS has been minimized since Chapo's arrests. From what I remember reading on BB in 2014 was the Chapitos stepped over El Lic after Chapo's 2nd capture. And Mayo backed the Chapitos on the move. Can you do a story? A lot of the BB newbies aren't aware of the rift within the CDS that was suggested in these reports.

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    1. CJNG is not against CDS (chapos) but against CDS (mayos, damasos) that's the reason they kidnap Los chapitos an release them to show that is not with chapo but the rest.

      El menchititito

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    2. Now you were in the board room when all this was discussed?

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    3. lic is fighting in navolato for the control of poppy which they say he is winning if he gains control of this area he will pretty much become a kingpin in a short amount of time.

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    4. Cds ya va para bajo

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  24. Who controls Puerto Penasco and Sonoyta in Sonora state?

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    1. Preocupate por controlar primero tu vida semejante zerote pue'

      El zeroton

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    2. CJNG took it from cds

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    3. CJNG in Sonora ? Hahaha please

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  25. Alotta of dumb & ignorant comments on here... Fact is... His murder was ordered frm Culican, Sinaloa... Not frm CJNG or Mencho... Did mfs read the BB article did on Gross b4 this article?.. Apparently not...

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    1. You talking about all the tweaker cartel jockers that get their nonsense comments approved by chivis and apparently wachito too. Smh definitely gonna start looking at another site for real narco journalism. Chivis ruined this site.

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    2. Fact of the matter is Sinaloa (Aquiles) ordered this hit which shouldn't be a surprise. CJNG doesn't have full control GDL for the fact that CDS launders most of their cash thru guanatos. These are facts folks

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    3. Don't believe everything you read son..

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    4. @9;15 As Chivis has explained to you in the past Wachito does not moderate comments. He sees them when you do. Same for all the other reporters except those that are also administrators; DD, Chivis, and Buggs. Buggs is the founder and owner of BB but he does not usually get involved in day to day administering the site. That leave Chivis and myself for you to attack. Due to Chivis's ill health she does not do as much moderating as she used to - that leaves me for you to blame. The only thing I can add in response to your comment is Bye Bye and good luck.

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    5. 9:15 Sorry junior, but I have been to many other blogs, some very good, and ain't no better than BB, except when dd writes his name in capitals DD.
      --Chivis part is she helped immensely to make it this big and we want her here forever all the time even if she does not post my comments either, go to crybabiesunite.com

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    6. @ 10;03 when you write your initials, do you write them in small letters or in caps?

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  26. Well then I guess the investigator who said CJNG would kill him soon is dumb and ignorant also. You have just as much info as the people you are talking shit about and that is.....nada. Salud!!

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  27. What makes his death mysterious? Please someone tell me.

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    1. It's a mystery why it didn't happen sooner.

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    2. What makes his death mysterious? He was covering a beautiful woman disguised as a princess in the U.S. Always another in line

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    3. When he was murdered he was carrying a fake id... it was not until a week later that authorities confirmed that it was him.

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    4. I think some of these fake narco juniors want to impress us with their big words so they try to come up with one that's sounds good. "I think his death was mysterious". Oh shit that's the bomb. I'm going to use that in my next comment on BB. Next thing we know there will be the Mysterious word guy on BB. Kinda like the Chapo snitched guy.

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    5. Then most that are found dead with fake Id's died mysteriously.

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    6. Mysterious Guy was caught with mysterious passports for Javier Duarte de Ochoa, he sporting a big moustach on the photo and his wife, differentt names, people say the PGR a d epn are covering up for him, father Solalinde said duarte was in chiapas and provided a map, that must have provoked jd de o to run, he did not get cogido yet.

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  28. A lot of drug dealers die like this. Nothing mysterious at all.

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  29. Damn after I made my comment about cuinis being richest and most unknown, untouched, scrolled down and everyone said the same thing!

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    1. They the most untouched? Both their top leaders are in jail and not getting out soon son. Cuinis and cjng is starting to see the end. Just cuz you don't hear about them taking hits left and right like Sinaloa capos don't mean it ain't happening. Last I heard they already got turns upside down in Colima their home state.

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    2. 9:19 first of all volume is not their home state tonto, jalisco is their main plaza.second,, Menchois the main leaders as was to cuini. 3rd cds is struggling trying to compete with cjng in colima just like Tijuana and veracruz with their weak anthrax and gente nueva that only make noise in corridos lol

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    3. no facts beside the menchos plaza being jalisco just personal opinions 7:06 am

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    4. 7:06 is on point

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  30. Nothing mysterious his carnal just betrayed him .
    Motto of the story don't trust anyone
    Not even your pet iguana

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  31. quisiera saver que opina la gente de jalisco sobre el cjng ?

    apoyan al mencho ? digo los ke operan por aquellos rumbos..

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  32. they killed him because he caused so much havoc in the streets the CAF dont role like that to much attention and he wanted to go independent and start his own cartel so The CAF told CJNG with proof and evidence that he wanted to start his own cartel and work against them so mencho had him killed

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