Thursday, August 25, 2016

Televisa story report: 3 sons of El Chapo were kidnapped

Lucio R. Borderland Beat with C.E.M

The following story is from Televisa.  Although they cite “confirmed by authorities” it has not been officially confirmed on any government website, as of this hour.  Nor has Televisa named who specifically confirmed this story.   It has always been the opinion of this BB reporter that Ivan was kidnapped along with his brother Alfredillo.  The government disputes, or at least has not confirm this.  Nor have they confirmed their release.  Bear in mind the government have no reason to avoid confirmation, as the brothers are wanted in the U.S. but not in Mexico for criminality. 

This Televisa story is attributing the kidnapping to Alfredito Beltran Leyva, bear in mind Televisa also has a story of leader of CJNG being responsible.  In my opinion that makes more sense.  But since the government is being closed mouth about this event, giving zero information since last week, it is impossible to determine what is happening.

If anything, the theory that there is an alliance between Alfredito and Mencho leading to a joint clash against Sinaloa is a possibility. Mencho has made some smart strategic alliances, and joining with those familiar with and having access to Sinaloa territory sounds pragmatic, although there, to this point has not demonstrated this to be fact.


It has long been rumored that Mencho has high placed government officials on his payroll, which is the reason he has gained so much territory in such a short amount of time.  Michoacán is a good example.  Without the government intervention, the autodefensa movement would likely have continued their success.  The government assured La Tuta and Caballeros Templarios was crushed, making way for Mencho to gain the majority of territory in Michoacán.

“Authorities” confirm that three sons of 'El Chapo' were kidnapped in Puerto Vallarta; and that Alfredito, son of Alfredo Beltran Leyva, could have led the kidnapping

The night when an armed commando entered the restaurant 'La Leche' of Puerto Vallarta where the  group dined, there were not two but three sons of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman and the three were kidnapped together with three other companions.

Exclusively for the program 'Despierta con Loret'. authorities confirmed that Cesar Guzman is a third son of 'El Chapo' who was kidnapped on Sunday August 14 and, like his two brothers, Jesus Alfredo and Ivan Archivaldo, he was released almost a week later, after payment of a ransom.

Authorities also reported that gain of power the motive behind the kidnapping, led by  was Alfredo Beltran Salazar 'The Mochomito' son of Alfredo Beltran Leyva, 'Mocha', who is imprisoned in the United States.

Beltran Leyva was part of the Sinaloa Cartel.

The dispute for control of the Pacific Cartel business is the new episode in that battle.


Intelligence officials try to corroborate the evidence that 'The Mochomito' has been part in this operation against the sons of 'El Chapo' with the help of Jalisco Cartel Generation Cartel.

129 comments:

  1. Televisa is worse than bdn guys.... Take that shit with a grain of salt. Or coke, your preference 😋

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  2. Seems reasonable to believe especially since non of the kidnapping victims were killed, however I find it hard to believe 3 sons of El Chapo were there & kidnapped at the same time. They all know they are a target from any cartel since the big boss is still in prison.If all of them would have been kidnapped & killed thats the end...no one else to fight on the Sinaloa corridor.Not a smart move for Mencho/Menzo if that were the case.If there is an alliance between Sinaloa Cartel & CNGJ this would be epic & would wipe out Zetas & CDG in a short time, it will be good for business since there would be only 2 in control. Chivis what is your take on this if it were true, I ask because Chivis always responds with a good sense of knowledge?

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    1. No one else to fight? CDS continues with or without chapos sons, it's a coalition of families and alliances.

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    2. Yes sir. That is what people here don't seem to understand. It is a federation not a cartel or mafia in the classical sense.

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    3. The Alliances are strained at the moment 11:35. It's kinda hard to do business with enemied coming for what's yours from all sides.

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    4. Sin los chapos, los mayos, los azules, los quinteros, hay sinaloa pa rato pa ke se hacen los wuëyes .... Con tantas familias conectadas en eso, si esos desde ke nacen traen eso de querer ser narcos.

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    5. 6:53 Si como no wuey, los herederos van a ser El Pirata de Culiacán, El Chanito, y El Gilberto....asi nomas quedo.....

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  3. wonder how much was the randsome?

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  4. Understand we are not saying this story is factual, but it is out there and we simply are addressing it. Personally i believe 2 of the sons were taken. and I think Mencho was the author of the kidnapping. for display of power. I don't think he would have a reason to do it for ransom. if it was ransom and they are released it is unlikely it was cjng. he acquired wealth by staying out of the US market and only a little over a year ago made a move to the US market thru TJ. it is a calculation of perceived sinaloa weakness and opportunity. his power perception of the people is important for him to gain a foothold.

    anyway thats my op at this point

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    1. you said you thought it was cjng at first..

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    2. @1028 hello chivis. I was visiting michoacan just a couple days ago near la barca and brisenas driving on Mexico 35 la libre. And I notice that they had check points on the michoacan side if you wanted to enter jalisco so many filters. you named it army the municipal the federal police. Well my point is that in jalisco everything is under control. Just like the USA no crime no problems. El mencho has more power than el chapo. It takes brains to control guadalajara...saludos a menuderia lulu En 20 De noviembre some great food in zamora they really take care of tourist.

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    3. @11:41

      People are slow to learn of the tremendous power of Mencho. I would not say he is more powerful than Chapo, but is quickly moving towards that status. Hs fears no one, he places movers , shakers and order givers on the payroll. You are correct about Jal/Mich it was the indicator. when tuta was in power the border was seamless and easily moved back and forth.

      People also do not know how wealthy they are. which is why I question a ransom, and an agreement is laughable. As if Mencho would take seriously an agreement to give territory by chapo.

      It is peculiar how the gob has not address the rumors, making me think they actually are behind them which is where televisa comes in.

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    4. Cjng is weak if they wanted to prove a point they would have killed them doesn't matter if they will go to war with the state of jalisco

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    5. @1210pm you have no idea. What Mexico is. Everyone wants to live in peace. To the point that they would turn their eye blind to narcos the longest is peaceful. The term calentar la plaza. Is the same as the block is hot. Don't cause any waves unless necessary. No one really knows what they kidnapped the chapos. Menchos should have called the DEA. And said here you guys I have a gift load them with some coke and drive them up to the Texas border...

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    6. when all this went down i was told by my sources that ivan was kidnapped for a fact..but i wasnt told about alfredo..but of course he was taken as we all found out later..but i dont think 3 of chapos sons were kidnapped..but now from my sources and of course the general news going around both were 100% kidnapped(ivan and alfredo)..also it def was not mencho nor alfredito behind the kidnappings..im not close to the guzman family but i have many friends and some family who work for them in one way or another and from what they are saying it was the mexican government behind this kidnapping..and it was to send a message to el chapo that if he is extradited(which he wont be. he will escape fairly soon) not to speak about the corrupt politics that he has dealt with over the years and not to mention the kind of deals he has made with them..and also to let chapo know how easy the government can touch his kids and family..what ppl dont know is that when ivan and alfredo go anywhere in mexico the government is tipped off to give protection to some degree..which is how they knew exactly where ivan and alfredo were and that they were unarmed and with few bodyguards(and yes they had a couple bodyguards with them which was failed to mention in the media).. and there was also no ransom payment made either..they were simple let go..el chapo made many phone calls and even talked to EPN !! lately the mexican government has reneged on quite a few deals that chapo and his faction have made with them..which should also go to show even more that it was the mexican government behind the kidnappings..ill try to keep you all updated as this plays out..

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    7. Chivis mencho has been selling dope in USA for about 10-15 yrs ago! Also Europe and in Mexico,they make a killing just here!

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    8. Great insight Chivis. Grazie. Peace. Cape Town.

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    9. @Chivis "I think Mencho was the author of the kidnapping. for display of power" .....kinda like when they kidnapped El Hs wifey..they ket that bitch go n said "they were tryin to teach em a lesson not to fuck around with family"..El H never even tried to gets his wife back..but yeah..it was just to show power..

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    10. It is ludicrous to say mencho is really powerfull just because he shot down a helicopter and has killed many military and police when they almost captured him anybody can do that butbthe real ones with power have orotection they dont need to go around killing unnecessary people.

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    11. Chivis you will get a lot of push back from the Chapo lovers who believe no other Capo could ever rival him. Everything you speak of seems reasonable to me so I understand why it's hard to blame. Also I believe the Mexican government was in on the kidnapping. To me the suspects looked too comfortable and had no fear. I would like to hear the audio of the video because I have feeling these guys identified themselves when they approached. The victims looked calm and almost relieved because of
      who was taking them.

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    12. I am with you on this one Chivis. Only 2 of his sons were taken. No ransom most like means a nonmonetary option was settled on. Great job BB for keeping us informed.Peace.

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    13. Yes if we ever get to hear audio if they have any it would be wonderful to hear what was said

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    14. It was only 2 you can see alfredito and Ivan in the video alfredito has the aqua colored shirt and Ivan is the one with white

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    15. There is no other rival capo the last of the real narcos "El rapido"

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    16. @356pm seems like the most viable theory

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    17. The audio will be very telling especially since it has been said the victims were held there an hour before being moved. Then the police showed up 45 minutes later. How convient!!

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    18. Chivis,not as cjng? What? So their in Tijuana for what? Mencho is in Tijuana cause he sends hella dope to California,u gotta update ur info chivis! He sends dope to central valley of California...559!

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    19. Hey Chivis your reading of El Mencho are correct hes one powerfull man. Los Valencia, el Mencho even Nazario Moreno Gonzalez are related somehow thats why in 2009 or around that date Los Quinis and el Mencho and a few of their partners were kicked out because they pissed off el loco for something they did. He didn't kill them because he had his reasons but just think of who Los Quinis dad was he had 8 or more sons and daughters and all of them or most are working in Organized Crime. CJNG will never take over michoacan the only reason they have any territory at the moment is because about a 1/3 of the templarios switched sides but still their losing ground. Just lookup the news about Michoacan and most of the dead are people with CJNG. Some reports are saying that Nazario Moreno Gonzalez is not dead that hes regrouping his organization.

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    20. 8:23 Michoacanos are too deep in the game for an outside crew to take over.

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    21. chema

      I don't want to argue, take what I say, or leave it. you should update your research. cjng carefully avoided the US after splitting with sinaloa. they concentrated on other markets such as europe. and made a ton of money. they began trafficking drugs thru TJ to the west coast and no doubt will spread. because they did not take hits as others trying to compete with Sinaloa, Mencho was cunning. he accumulated wealth and created strong bonds with key people who also hate sinaloa.

      I have written about this many times. you may believe differently, but that is my opinion.

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  5. Whats funny is all the cheerleaders that when the post that came up of the chapo guzman boys kidnapp started saying chapo done puro michoacan lol they probaly comited suicide by now aqui sinaloa manda
    Keep up the good work bb

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    1. If CDS was in charge these boys wouldn't have been picked up. The only reason they werent killed was the captors mercy. Lets not forget capos have lost sons Chapo included

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    2. I disagree I think if it were the Zetas or CDG they would have been killed

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    3. I wouldn't be too proud homie CDS just got bitch slapped in front of the whole world. What was Chapo's response? He cried in his cell for a week.

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    4. Wow let me know what channel you saw chapo crying I want to tune in next time homie Ora rancho cholo

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    5. 12:16 bitch slap ? Thats why they were let free idiot if anything mencho got slap and spit on by cds lol after mencho beg for mercy chapo forgive him dumbass

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    6. 8:47 where do you get your nonsense?

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    7. @8:47am. We shall see in the coming months who were the real winners and the real losers of the kidnapping. There has been too many shots taken by Los Guzman's it to be a begging for mercy Mencho alone. Don't get your feelings hurt when the Chapitos start taking orders instead of giving them.

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  6. The whole thing seems staged to put heat on Mencho, if they were kidnapped why not killed them and take over their drug routes and business.
    Video shows them la leche more than an hour, police says they were there in 45 minutes, I would squeeze the owner of La Leche to get the truth seems like he in on it

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  7. I wonder if el chapo knew it happned

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  8. So is it even sure they were released? Seems like the government is still wasting resources looking for them.

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  9. sound opinion chivis

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  10. why would anyone release them, yes they are sons, but also operators in the business, makes no sense whatsoever, its not like they plucked a kid outta of school and want money, they are able to retaliate on their own wirhout dad..and if someone knows who done it, its them

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  11. I want to hear the chapo snitched guy opinion

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    1. My opinion is that it was Mencho who kidnapped chapo's kids and that they collected a huge amount of money over letting them go, its that easy, lets not overthink it..

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  12. I think important is the fact that the other notable Sinaloa papers are not reporting they were release.

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    1. What about riodoce?

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    2. I think she/he means other than RioDoce, it is their story.

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  13. The guzman boys are just kids that have no idea how to run a cartel,there just juniors that are playing cops and robbers.The proof is there,they got pick up and where in danger of being executed,doesent matter if it was just one,two or three of them!!This is the real world and daddy is not there anymore to protect them anymore!!!Love all the comments from the border land beat followers,just remember none of us know what really go's on in the narco world,we asume we are all expert's on the narco subject,but we just some sort of fans of narcos and or narco related news,so dont get mad or butthurt when you dont like a comment or agree on it!!!Spread the love and not the hate!!....Paradox

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    1. I have never read anyone say they are experts. The speculation continues because the story is not told. This is where you visit to read stories, view opinions and share your thoughts.

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    2. 3:45 well my friend you live in denial,because everybody in here shares there point of view or theorys and fight over whos wrong or right!!!!Are you to blind to see the drama or just ignorant?But your right on who visits the website and what for,but its all part of the narcocultura!!we love reading about the narcoworld,the players involved,there life styles and pretty much everything that go's around in there world's!!!Thats the reason im here,i enjoy everything starting from the videos,comments,news and the drama that go's around in this site,i don't know what i would do without it!!!!!This is one of the coolest sites outhere where we can pretend to to know a little or to much over the subject...No disrespect to no one,i just speak what i think and this is my point of view!!!!paradox

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    3. Well, 11:26 Let me get this straight , you just LOVE all this Narcocultura , enjoy it all and don't know what you would do w/o it ? , with all your exclamation points thrown in. Perhaps you should get a life or take a quick look around and do a good deed for the day. How about reading this info and TRY to digest what the impacts of all this greed, corruption , violence has on society as a whole , not to mention entire countries, govts, and the cost to regular innocent loving people / families that live in fear , not to mention poverty, hunger , sorrow. I read BB to educate myself to the complexities that have such a huge impact and I also really appreciate the stories about the human rights abuses, the human trafficking, prostitution rings, Totoaba bladders for gods sake, they are all connected. Do you spend any time in Mexico or know any Mexicans that have to live with this horror show ?

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    4. I enjoy tar and feathering the rich and the powerful and their poolitician lambeculos, I looove bringing up their dirty laundry, it is one of the most pointless exercises, because they are all well protected but not all the time not on BB...

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    5. We are addicted to chiva, BB is just an excuuuse, then she escapes, takes the rope and leaves us begging for more, and chewing poor epn's ass to get even, well some like to chew la gaviota's

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    6. 11:26 i forgot to say that im mexican,i used to live in mexico,i have many family members in chihuahua,sinaloa and cancun.I knew alot of people that that where killed by zetas,then i had friends from my youth that worked for zetas,pelones and cdg.I almost got picked up by zetas onces in cancun just for standing in the wrong corner drunk,i was on vacation on that time..Then i have lost family members that have been killed by cartels.I seen "tons" of it if you know what i mean,so i think i have a better idea of what go's on in mexico.I dont aprove the killing of inocents in mexico or in any part of the world,i dont like the deaths of inocent people in wars,but we all know why we are here and its not educate our minds.Keep in mind why narcosites still exist!!!Its all a chain and you my friend are part of what keeps the heads rolling!!!

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  14. I kind of do not believe any of these stories. If the Chapo sissy boys were actually kidnapped, I don't care who did it they would be ground beef in McDonald's and BK by now. Everyone wants them dead so they have no real alliances or friends.

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  15. I say El chapo snitched on them. Then tried to snitch on mencho for it. All while locating his mother's whereabouts to snitch on her.. All while speed dailing his attorney to snitch on himself. . Attn El chapo snitched guy.

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  16. Mencho showing power. Who is in power. Jalisco is next Sinaloa.

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  17. Alfredo beltran only has problems with El Guano ( el Chapo half brother ) ..not with Ivan or Alfredo Guzman .

    El Mencho controls Jalisco .He had them kidnapped so they can respect his territory .

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  18. There was no Ransom money paid ....just one phone call from el quinto mes Sr Mayo said one time "let my people go or else "


    Antrax 99

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    1. Sure, then why did Mayo take 5 days to say those 4 words?

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    2. So u think went through all that trouble and *ussied out just cause mayo said let them go? I agree with the guy's saying that it was jus a scar tactic to keep them out of their turf
      Villano

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  19. El Mencho looks abit like my friend lol

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    1. Turn him in for 5 mil haha!

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  20. Just because of one twitter post everybody think they are free?

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  21. Tengo meses mandando mensajes aquí y no los publican, creo que también está info envié.. ¿Debo usar un pseudonimo? Me llamaré mmmm chivetin.

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    1. If you want credit, sign your name "estupiro".
      I don't sign my name because it does not matter, the issues are all that matter, and some little complaints of even smaller consequence, some...

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  22. Estupidez más grande pensar que menos de 10 personas secuesta ron a tres guzmán que cada uno trae su escolta por mínima que sea. Y es sabido que siempre viven en jalisco. El mecho es mas rico que salinas. Para que ocupa dinero de un rescate que le puede costra caro. El mocho mito no va a ir a arriesgarse a otro estado y dejar su rancho descubierto de los mismos que esta secuestranto. Sentido común es que los hijos del chapó ya le entraron a las ligas grandes fe la mafia= televisa y el gobierno de mexico. Se cagan de la risa con los inventos.

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    1. Televisa anda quebrando, ya nadie los mira por habladores y narcos y propagandists del PRI AND CO. y sin sus narco vans de televisa que les traian su nieve de Limon desde venezuela, nicaragua y guatemala, y peru y colombia...

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  23. These Guzman cats were out and about getting fat and lazy instead of sticking with the program...Is grandma safe and is their not a war in the Sierra de Baridaguato that this morons should be attending too...They probably got picked up, slapped around and told in a gentlemen like way to stay the f$&@ out of Jalisco...By the way, they asked for 800 keys in the fine product and said thank you very much mi Sinaloa... Next thing you know a lost shipment in Colima...Chapo never fails to impress me...

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  24. El Sangre Fria knows what really happened .
    He is a real Sicario

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  25. LOL dam I can't believe how big mencho has gotten. I remember when he ran the 209 (la capital de la cranka) way back in the day. he was always very savvy. Los Quienes and the Valencia bros were partners even back then. they Had a carniseria in Livinston CA. that got raided by the Feds. back then ppl would buy boxes of Pseudoephedrine pills and have MASSIVE cook outs of 200 pounds a week each pound going for 4to6 G's. you do the math

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    1. Gold cup,u do know them! First time on here I read something good! The rest of the dummys jusy post shit!! What people don't know that they also sell alot of dope in Mexico! Not all goes to USA or Europe,everybody thinks they send hella dope to Europe,na 100-200k maybe 500 at the most but when they do that theirs 3-4 personas not just mencho that send also to Europe!

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    2. @ 440pm. Is exactly what happened. El Rancho de Vargas. Is a nest for cjng. Ecuandureo had el pelon marin and his boss fat alejo in charge mostly trafficking to Chicago and milwauke. Until they tried to open up a plaza in sinaloa where alejo was killed. El Pelon marin flipped sides and he is now a Viagra currently in jail for the death of the 6 kids in Rancho del sol.. But they where at war with menchos gentes los Valencia for a quick minute...they used to dump The bodies in Moreno De bravo... The border of michoacan and jalisco is a nest for cjng and for some left over templarios and Viagras basically a war zone on the low low....the point is that mencho has been making crazy paper since 1990..and he is so powerful that chapo has nothing on him. Maybe mayo zambada because of the way the sinaloas operate but mencho has jalisco michoacan and Tijuana under his belt. Not to mention his allies BLO...mencho is the man.

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    3. Jesus Maria (Chema) look Ima tell you how it really went down when mencho really started coming up in Mex. remember the chino that had all that money in that house in Mexico City? well that dude was in the 209 lookin for a coke connect. A dude they called El Kilo(r.i.p) used to buy buckets of ephedrine from the chino. But what the chino really wanted was to exchange ephedrine for bricks. so Kilo hooked em up with another guy they called Fieros(r.i.p.) who took him to Naranjo de chilla to meet with mencho who was his compa and partner up and make a deal. and that's when mencho started making CRAZY LOOT. And that's where mencho got all his conects abroad. When the chino went down mencho took over all his connections abroad.

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    4. growing up in the 209 around these guys and others was a hella of an education I was a youngster back then these people were RESPECTED NOT FEARED big difference. I'm not saying drug dealing is all good and cool cause ITS NOT. but these guys did what they did to truly help out there people and because they were truly poor. I don't know who's bigger than who but I will say this the meth Market was built by mencho and a lot of others from the 209. chapo and his peeps had absolutely nothing to do with that.

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    5. This clown de avlador a sinaloa le duro mucho pa llegar a la plaza de tijuana no nomas va llegar el cjng a tijuana en esa plaza ay caf y sinaloa cjng le paga el pizo al caf pa poder traficar no anden de avlador 6:32 fanfarron

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    6. They don't call it methdesto for nothing. I didn't know mencho was from 209. Im Assuming merced...I know a lot goes on there

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    7. Wrong the ones that built the meth empire was nacho coronel with Sinaloa cartel then of course la familia in michioacan but no damn 209 everything gets thrue the big cities like Los Angeles San Diego Chicago New York thrn the crumbs go up north to places like Merced and all those little farm towns

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    8. @8:14 ya now it goes threw L.A. No doubt but in the nineties and early two thousands almost ALL meth was produced in the 209 do your homework big dog. I remember when You L.a. Cats used to come to the 209 to purchase crank. Always coming threw with your cheap ass brick weed lol

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    9. Nacho got his shit from mencho. He brought alot to the table when he joined nacho. I wouldn't be surprised if his own people shot him up so mencho and Los cuinis can take his spot. The main ingredient came from China to Lazaro Cardenas michoacan. Everybody knows michoacanos are known for the best meth (cosineros) Come on now!

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    10. Wrong, it was definately Michoacan with the milenio cartel and other families. Gold cup is right, mencho and his ppl started the meth market out here. My boys grandpa knew him since he was a kid and when he got older they did a lot of business together but mencho clearly ascended to a very high level. My boys grandpa was eventually deported.

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    11. Hey gold cup, without giving too much away. Is there a story you could tell us about him and his people? Change dates and names if you want I Just to get a better understanding of who this guy is. Thank you

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    12. Gold cup I know these cats personally! Mencho,cuini,chepa,elvis,eduardo(chivero,lalo Peca,mencho,rubensito(menchito)
      chata,chambon,armando Valencia,luis Valencia,and all the younger brothers! Mencho lived in La but would go to 559 and 209 to fight roosters! Then they got deported and lived in playas Tijuana then Lalo(who got arrested in Uruguay)got picked up by arellanos around1998-2000 then they bounced to Guadalajara to work with their brother in law Armando Valencia!

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    13. Mi Chemita I think we should stop here. Salute mi compa somos de Los mismos quedese mucho

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    14. Then we shall call him Methcho.

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    15. Igualmente amigo Gold cup,saludos!

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  26. The ONLY bargaining chip at play here was access to Chapos monopoly on Cocaine Connections in S. America.
    Personally, I think that all three are either still being tortured, or they are all dead. I think CNJG or whatever made the move on behalf of Ysidro who is pulling Mochomito strings.
    Ive said before, and Ill say again, It was obvious that Chapos Faction had no power when his Mother was accosted a couple months back. Lets not fool ourselves into thinking his sons had ANY power over anything besides where to party at and when to post pics of cars and baby tigers.
    Chapos Brother ran his end. Theres not going to be a war. To much $$ to be made. No, if they where released unharmed (lol) it was for leverage of the only drug thats not indiginous to Mexico, Coke.

    Ivan got grabbed earlier in the day, or on his way to the party. He was in PV already, and would have set up security, which is why it was so easy. They grabbed Ivan first, he talked, and they went and grabbed the other two. Peronally I think they are being tortured to death. The government knows, but is keeping a lid on it to prevent small timers and leftovers from feeling inpowered to start shit.
    All the TRUE CARTELS, the ones whos dope is getting siezed that is, they are not fighting no war. They are making $$, Chapo is going to get 10,000 years, AND THE SHIT WONT STOP.

    ~Spectator

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    1. Good points 5:32pm. But if the three sons have been tortured or killed, why have we not seen a war in the streets? Retaliation?Something?

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    2. I live in colima,here its always going down..i got deported from camden nj last year for drug charges. The word here and im part of the movement gente del cartel de sinaloa that the sons have been released already..the reason they got picked up was like one of the comments i read here,it was because they had been brushing off a sit down with mencho and his associates...they never had in they mind to kill los menores...they just wanted to talk...so there you have it and now you know..you would have known if los menores were killed because there would have been and all out war going on right now as i write this comment..cds is has been cleaning house in jalisco for the last almost 2yrs...10:09

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  27. Mencho tenia de dos los mataba i se lo cargaba la huesuda o los dejaba i vivia pa contarla otro dia mas , ya avia ordenes i convoys situados por todo jalisco listo para enpazar a cortar cabezas pura gente de sinaloa

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    1. Antrax Gente Nueva ACME siempre listos !

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    2. 5:42 yo vivo en rosales culiacan pendejo ustedes siguen diciendo acme acme como si ellos son un grupo armado jaja los acmes son un grupo de amigos que algunos si estan en el ambiente y otros no..para que deje de gritar acme pinche posho liendre jaja acme acme mis huevos..

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    3. Pero los grupos que que ? Alucin ellos siempre cds blo zetas y cjng se la pasan patrullando las calles de jalisco..no estan asperando ordenes como dices...

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  28. El Bueno es Alfredito Beltran y con eso se los demonstro y todavia la culpa la hecho a los de Jalisco . El Mencho no controla ni Jalisco desde de hace cuando se le an Metido los Zetas y siguen operando alli, todos operan en jalisco no crean todo los chismes , el Mencho no ha podido acabar con los mugrosos de los Caballeros Templarios, donde esta el poder del que tanto hablan ?

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  29. Mencho told Chapos kids..."give up the 411,or i'll turn you over to alfredito.

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    1. How does this low iq get his comment in. Lol hey administration. Stop shutting down the good comments. And get rid of no brains like this. It's pain full goin from a good post. To this pretty much caveman drawing of a post!

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    2. 6:26 the forum is full of super stars, how about you go and kick 'em on the nuts, you can even use your real name there and "expose" us there, mister ginius...

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  30. Bahia Banderas in the State of Nayarit is just across the Ameca river, only 15 minutes from Jalisco's La Leche Restaurant. In Nayarit, CJNG is allied with BLO, in coordination with Edgar Veytia, Fiscalía General de Nayarit. El Chapo Isidro visits Nayarit. CJNG runs the southern part, BLO runs the north. Bahia Banderas is Sanctuary for CJNG, they have an agreement with the Municipal and State Police. Bahia Banderas is where Gaddafi's son bought a home, Alberto ‘Betty la fea’ Carrillo Fuentes was arrested, and where Nacho Coronel's son was kidnapped from. The wealthy Plaza of Bahia Banderas, is vacation place for people like Jenifer Lopez, Kim Kardashian and Pena Nieto with investers like Caro Quintero, Chapo Guzman and Bill Gates. CJNG also has the Plaza in Puerto Vallarta, but they do not have the blessings of the Jalisco State Government or State Police. The situation still seems unresolved. As of today, The Jalisco State "Fuerza Unica" are still guarding the border to and from Jalisco at the Ameca river. A large Federal Police Jet is still sitting at the PV airport. The Mexican Army is still patrolling Puerto Vallarta and Bahia Banderas in Covoys. But,the Nayarit State "Elite" Police have left the coast and have returned to their base in Tepic.

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  31. Find it hard to believe that Alfredo Beltran Guzman is feuding with Ivan and Alfredo they are family even tho theY the belong to different cartel they respect one another like when el animal son was killed out of respect Alfredo Beltran Guzman give up one of his fellow cartel member that carried out the accidental hit out of respect for Los guzmans and el animal

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    1. How is that hard to believe? Chapo basically destroyed his family. His uncle was killed, his dad is in jail because of chapo snitching and his brother was never heard of again after chapo gave orders to disappear him. He probably has a lot of hate for him and his family.

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    2. Chapo and beltranes are practicly brothers from a diferent mother. They grew up together and chapos mom raised them in her home. Now they are enemies. So it's believable. Real spit

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    3. You don't think El Guano killing El Mochomito's Grandfather for false pretenses is not enough for him to want revenge? Chapo beiing the snitch who got his daddy locked up l is not enough. If I lived the narco life you better believe I would come after Chapi's family for that shit.

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    4. @12:09 @12:11 et al: And where did you sign as a witness to all those chapa's mistakes, errors and betrayals when he was singing like a canary, mister stool pigeon?

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  32. El Maestro Bravo Negro entreno a los escoltas de los hijos del SR Chapo .Ellos nunca andan sin escoltas por ordenes del SR Guzman .

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  33. To my understanding cesar guzman is dead. They used to call him Moreno. Ovidio is the other brother.

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    1. Edgar Guzman was "el moreno"

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  34. Modesto ca is where most of the mafiosos use to and still hang out

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    1. This is true. So many ranchos belong to narcos there

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    2. @6:21 yup you are right.Lol I remember the poker games these Cats used to have on crows landing BIG CASH I was about 10 or 11 they used to send me to go buy them tacos lol

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    3. That who area has big time bosses, San Mateo has all the sinaloenses bosses in the area too

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    4. Crows landing? Cuco or the Teos?

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    5. I grew up in San Mateo California I know that place is full of Sinaloenses, my pops surtia por todos esos rumbos y puro Mazatlan Sinaloa

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  35. I think cjng did kidnap chapos sons if they did not by now they had put a narcomanta saying that thay did not dont yoy guys think so

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  36. Muy interesante esta pagina, de narcoplaticantes.

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    1. @211pm. Y tu si muy narco?? Si eres narco De verdad.pasa me tu datos para ir por ti. Att. Sedena.

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    2. Si soy puchador traigo un taxi pirata es un tsuru de 4 puertas .

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  37. El rey del cristal was Nacho Coronel who worked for El Chapo ...

    Mencho was a worker for el coronel

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    1. You are the only one that said it right all these other guys don't know what they're taking about

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    2. Nacho worked WITH chapo

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    3. "El que traiciona una vez traiciona dos veces", dijo el Mamito al Chango Vargas cuando queria ser amigo de los zetas otra vez para explicar porque no hubo.
      Y es que la familia michoacana les partió su madre bien gacho a las setas cuando andaban chingando en Michoacan que las setas salieron del estado todos desfundillados...
      --El pitufo, cuñao del chango es ahora caca grande en michoacan, delegado de paz de alfredo castillo de kagada el perro de epn, cjng le da un abrazo al chango vargas, y un besito en el yoyo...

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  38. Its funny how many people play favorites and dont see the writing on the walls. Alfredo wouldnt kidnap them. It was mencho if anything, doubting chapos power. But than Chapo got himself transferred back to Atiplano lol. And you know the rest

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  39. @12:43 Your post is dumbest ever on BB! You dont know shit! Period. You who post chapo this and chapo that! mencho this and Mencho that dont have no clue. Shut the fu up, you wouldnt know shit because you live in the USA!

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  40. El mencho no negocio la existencia de los juniors creo que negocio su existencia de el ?

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  41. Mencho is punking the hell out of a faction of cds. End of story. Let's not forget that cds has an internal war and half is with beltranes and mencho and the other half is getting their sh!t kicked in. Nothing more nothing less.

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    1. 6:39 divide and conquer, divide y vencerás, blame la chapa today, la mencha mañana, o los beltranuses, o los cafés DECAF, EL KIKO DE KAKA sobrina de las trevi, o aunque sea osiel...

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  42. They use to hang out next to la cabana the lil mechanic shop until they got caught with jale and the shop went down in modesto by el changaro de don juan foods

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    1. That wasn't mencho and them! I know that mechanic shop,its the Teo's...3 brothers! Two were selling dope and the third was just their,never did shit! Got 12 years! Would be pissed at his brothers in prison(Lompoc fed prison) cause he got time for their mistake!

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