Thursday, June 9, 2016

Mexico’s lost guns: 13,000 over 10 years; reported lost or stolen by police and other officials

Posted by DD republished from Mexico News Daily

 Mexico News Daily | Wednesday, June 8, 2016


Apatzingan Self-defense force: armed with police weapons?
 Police are having a hard time hanging on to their guns: at both state and federal levels police officers and officials in prosecutors’ and attorney generals’ offices have lost nearly 13,000 firearms since 2006.

The federal Attorney General’s office reported the disappearance of 1,171 arms, the Federal Police 1,054, and 102 by the Center for Investigation and National Security (Cisen).

Members of the Federal Protection Service, responsible for the security of public officials, were best at hanging on to their weapons. They lost only 15.

The rest of the 12,878 missing guns, both handguns and rifles, were lost or stolen in all 32 states, but the majority disappeared in Mexico City, the State of México, Chihuahua, Guerrero and Jalisco. The last three represent regions of the country with strong a presence of established drug cartels and splinter groups.

The largest number of lost or stolen weapons was reported in Mexico City in 2009, when 800 arms went missing from local police stations. That was also the year in which the most guns vanished nationwide, a total of 2,081.


The data was obtained by the newspaper Milenio from the National Defense Secretariat through a freedom-of-information request.

Coincidentally, the Mexican government increased its imports of firearms by more than threefold in the first half of this decade. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri) reports that Mexico’s arms imports grew by 331% between 2011 and 2015 when compared with the period 2006 to 2010.

Sipri attributed the sharp increase in imports to the war against drug cartels.

InSight Crime suggests the missing weapons were likely destined for the domestic black market and bought up by organized criminal networks. They might also have found their way into the hands of the armed vigilante groups operating in many parts of the country.

The crime research organization concluded that “the demand for guns has shot up parallel with the militarization of Mexico’s so-called ‘drug war,’” adding that the increase in weapons imports “shows that the Mexican government is arming up, not dialing it down.”

Source: Milenio (sp)

47 comments:

  1. Yet it was the "Fast and Furious" that caused weapons to get in the hands of criminals? BB preaches the facts and put it out there for everyone to know. Thanks BB.

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    1. 5:58 Fast and Furious, H&K, and many others did their part, but thanks for the input, the work is in, you may get paid for trying, but I doubt fast and furious ever paid anybody less money than you, because, mija, eres un pendejo

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  2. The MEXICANS Are STRAPPED

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    1. 5:59 Yep, that why so many güeras, and specially the most expert connoisseur hoes concur, "poquito picoso".
      --On top of that, the most favored are usually way over 200 lb heavyweights...

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  3. When a good quality pistol costs a months salary and nobody can even go to a store and buy one, there are a lot of ways to lose a gun.

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  4. How does the good old usa compare to these numbers?

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    1. 7:23 not everybody in the US benefits from selling weapons to the dirty mexicans, but the weapons dealers that preach so much their love for the 2nd ammendment and their right to bear arms and all that shit, they o ly care about making money from selling their weapons on the street illegally, like putas apestosas, but for big bucks as if they were Hollywood artistas.
      --The NRA does not care about the optics, they just want their money

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    2. 7:23 the US does not come close to these numbers. The reason is because these types of firearms are too assessable to the average citizen. Now I will say that there have been some gang members who have enlisted in the US military and they have stolen weapons for their gang but all involved were caught. Mexico is a different story. There is too much leeway for the local and state governments to do as they please with no repercussions from the Feds in Mexico.

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  5. LMAO! They didn't "lose" there guns or they didn't "steal" them, good job mexican government, sell your weapons to the devil! Fuker trying to act like pendejos wondering where all there guns went...SMH

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  6. Hahahaha! That's a good one! Lost my ass. They sell those fuckin guns to the cartels. Let the very same poor and desperate people have guns and rather than help them just let them kill each other off. Just as long as they don't threaten politicians and such because then the Marina or Federales come and disarm everyboy and even more bodies start to appear everywhere. This is exactly what happened in Juarez until the Federales left.

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  7. No worries, the US lost plenty in Fast n Furious Operation also! Or let me guess US lost them Mexico claimed them n lost them again?

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    1. The difference primo is the guns involved in fast and furious were "legally" purchased by US citizens with the intent on "illegally" selling them to a middleman who would then smuggle them into Mexico for the cartels. The ATF allowed the sells knowing they being smuggled into Mexico. The plan was to survey the purchasers then bust them before they crossed the border but with the limited size of the ATF some guns were lost. The story above is about guns "disappearing" in thin air in Mexico. Huge difference if you ask me but hey I'm just realist.

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    2. Weapons dealers used the ATF as their cash cow puta, they had the sales lined up, the government lined up, the commissions lined up, the lies lined up, and mainly, more narcos to short in the pay than they could handle, those narcs would take weapons instead of cash, "for their safety" and the US drug traffickers would enhance their revenue.
      --That is why iran-contra part "Admiral" John Poindexter still sells weapons, in texas I guess...

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    3. 10:02 there was not enough money to be made in the selling of these weapons by US government. Now the Iran-Contra there were millions maybe even billions that were made by the CIA. What was made selling a few hundred AR15/AK47's to some piss ant narcos? Maybe six figures. No guey it was the greed of a few grimey Americano firearm dealers. Nothing more nothing less. Your conspiracy theory is kinda cute but it holds no weight in truth.

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    4. 4:08 it is no secreat "they" are carving the country, pemex contractzzz, the power generation plants, no bid government contracts for white houses for epn, Videgaray, osorio chong, millions of pesos in uses for "legislators" to approve all the whole shit...
      --apparently, destabilizing a country with contraband weapons keeps giving, people won a lot of money as a consequence of the innocent drug and weapons trafficking into the US...
      --even worse, the plan still goes on, paquete completo, no conspiracy there...

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  8. Those numbers make Operation Fast and Furious look like table scraps. Where is the outrage over these "lost" weapons? Could it be OK because the white man is not directly involved? (FYI I'm not white). Someone please explain this one to me. Make sure your answer is not a bunch of incoherent rambling or insults. I really want to read what other BB commenters have to say without the ghetto vernacular.

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    1. Why don't you ask EPN? I'm sure he can refrain from using "ghetto vernacular". He may say something smart like your answer is in the question haha

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    2. The truth of the matter is the United States has alway support the biggest cartel always, our government, if you stop giving money and guns and training things wouldn't be as they are now please mind your own business stay out of Mexico in any form or shape we de people do no need You and your tax money supporting a government that oppress us more ( and please don't change the subject )

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    3. Atention BB comunity here we have "a decent" citizen that doesn't like guetto language Please refrain from using bad vocabulary and answer this "gentle-man" question at least just this one time (my haters included)and when you finish your comment don't forget to be nice and say thank you.
      lmmmao.

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    4. Unless EPN is a avid BB reader I could careless what his answer is 11:48. I want to read what other "real" people have to say on BB. I'm just curious to know without all the insults and disrespecting that has become the norm.

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    5. I am real, and not white either, but many people confuse me with a cute and veery smart guy, and all I could think is chingas a tu madre pendejo to answer our gentleman and his meat grinder...
      --Mexicans do not have LOTS OF ARMY SURPLUS TO GET RID OFF like the US middlemen lords of war, if you think a little about it, with your head, instead of with your gentle nalgas

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    6. That will never happen 3:31 because American money to the Mexican government is like green crack cocaine. Mexicano policitians can't get enough of it like pookey in New Jack City. It keeps calling their names.

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    7. 12:24 as soon as the money is released it goes to pay AMERICAN SUPPLIERS, SUBCONTRACTORS AND BUSINESSMEN ON THE US, almost no money gets paid to mexicans, and what gets paid, promptly gets stolen, it all looks like a scam, smells like a scam, must be all a scam to pluck a few billions dollars from the american taxpayer, as is customary and the norm...

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    8. You can't convince me EPN doesn't get his cut. Presidente Fox and Calderon are still getting paid as we speak. Not only did they take their billions of kickback money from being the president of Mexico but now they make millions traveling the US giving speeches of how they were the best thing to ever happen to Mexico. Mexican politicos are getting paid from both sides of the coin. No pity given to the "victims" because their government.

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  9. Wow what?! I thought all the guns came from the US.

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    1. 11:37 well, ahem, only about 99%, but a lot may be coming by way of china lately, it is cheaper making them there, and selling the american employees of the amerikkkan weapons manufacturers short, is not a big problem, really, just more money for the owners of the "industry"...

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  10. Mexico continually points the finger at the United States for the surge in the number of and type of weapons now in the hands of the cartels. Based on this report, they need to take responsibility for the ineptitude of their law enforcement officers due to the endemic and systemic corruption where officers willingly sell assigned weapons for the highest price.
    A solution to this issue would be any officer that loses their assigned handgun or rifle does not get it replaced. Rather, the individual has to pay their agency the full replacement cost of the missing weapon. Until they finish paying off the full cost of the weapon, that officer must still go out and perform their duties unarmed. They still have to make arrests, confront cartel members, respond to crimes in progress, etc. Once word gets out, they will see a dramatic decline in the number of weapons that go missing, PENDEJOS Y COBARDES.

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    1. That's a great idea!I bet it would work too only trouble is is no one is interested in solutions.Why?-$$$$$.

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    2. 11:45 who finances these pendejos and cobardes?
      --Billions of dollars in weapons and training, even on the US Schools of the Assassins, for this?
      --And the US keeps supporting these "great efforts" of the mexican government the US chose for mexico.

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    3. 11:45 it sounds like a Johnny come lately "false positive" to save fast and furious ass and "prove somehow" that others are corrupt weapons dealers too, no mention that "w" started fast and furious as "Operation Wide Receiver"
      --But shit rolls down hill, and the weapons were supplied by the supreme leaders of the world, and as they say, the buck stops there, no excuses...don't facking come this late in the game blaming the rabble, entiendes? ? ?

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    4. In the US we don't tolerate mistakes or mishaps. In Mexico mistakes and/or accidents are the norm so the public turns a blind eye. In the US one unarmed civilian is killed by law enforcement and the entire country is pissed. In Mexico an entire town can disappear and no one says jack shit. Turning a blind eye to disappearances and mass graves in the US won't happen because our people wouldn't stand for it. 11:45 your suggestion is a good idea but that would make the officers responsible for their actions. You have to remember these officers are moonlighting as enforcers and hitmen for the cartels.

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  11. The mexican government is arming up as a gift to the mexican people that hates their motherfacking arsesand want to kick them all the way to hell "the narcos" is just an excuse, el pri feels like they are owed something and like they "own" mexico and the powers that be, like the US, and their partners in global privatization as a form of vulture capitalism agree, mexican government in charge of the banana republic plantation is in charge of the slaves for their bread crumbs and weapons...

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    1. --Arming the narcos, the sicarios or the corrupt poolice...
      What difference does it make?
      --The more the merrier! That should push the "plans further, faster, furiously...

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  12. Most on that picture look like AKs

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  13. Mexico is like Afghanistan. If you are over 15 years of age and unarmed, you are the only one over 15 that is unarmed.

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    1. Totally false. Have you been to Mexico or Afghanistan?

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  14. I wonder if any of these captured weapons still have the serial numbers intact. This could be traced back to the original policeman that it was issued to originally. We need to know who loses his weapon that ends up elsewhere.

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    1. Honestly... what good would that do??

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    2. Does Mexico even have a system for documenting serial numbers? I highly doubt it.

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    3. 3:38 tracking weapons to the manufacturer and the last legal owner, would do infinite good, they can be sued for the damages their wares cause because they could not control their weapons or their monetary urges...
      --It would silence some strident big mouths too...

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  15. The mex gov is arming them so that next time they kill a bunch of them they can at least say that it was because they were armed, not like those students that were kill like dogs with out being armed.. Es plan con maña

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  16. Choose the rifle that has the maximum effective range. - El Sol Perdido

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    1. Sollie, the mexican 15 year old narcos and sicarios only need to know their weapon makes: PUM!
      It takes a while to become a gunnery Sargent, if'n you know, má.

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  17. 13000 Guns!!!!
    That's more than 1000 a year
    That's more than 80 a month
    Wow!!!!!!

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  18. All weapons that are seized goes to Mexico City to be handed to the military. There are over 300,000 in the warehouse inventory from various counties but many are from USA.

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  19. Your saying on average 2 guns were stolen from cops daily in mexico for 10 years
    ALV

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