Thursday, June 16, 2016

150 Gunmen shoot up the home of El Chapo's mother, kill neighbors

Lucio R. Borderland Beat Material from El País-RioDoce and Facebook
Update Below

150 gunmen burst into the sanctuary of Guzman Loera, they killed three neighbors and ransacked maternal home.

Testimonies collected by local media said the large group of gunmen arrived mid-morning, seemingly without fear. One group burst into the mansion of Consuela Loera, (at top)stole two cars, three motorcycles and cut telephone lines.

Consuela was not harmed.

Simultaneously, other parts of town were attacked. One of the neighbors was dragged from his home and killed in the street. Many people, have fled the area in fear.

Who directed the attack remains a mystery. A first version,  by expert  Cynthia Valdez, indicated that the brazen attack was a settling of scores within the Sinaloa cartel. Namely retribution against Guzman Loera’s  sons, Ivan and Alfredo.

Other sources indicate that the attack was perpetrated by the Beltrán-Leyva Cartel, old and fierce rivals El Chapo. For years they fought a war that horrified the country. Guzman Loera had hired BLO initially as armed wing, until in 2008, when Alfredo Beltran Leyva, aka “El Mochomo” was arrested. Mochomo was a lieutenant of Chapo’s at the time.  Chapo was accused of setting Mochomo up by working with the feds, in exchange for his son to be released from prison.
Mochomo was incarcerated and eventually extradited to the U.S. where he pleaded guilty and awaits his sentencing, scheduled on July 11.  Chapo’s son was released within 2 months, after spending 3 years behind bars,the government citing “lack of evidence”.

A subsequent war exploded resulting in run away violence and hundreds of murders, including that of Chapo’s 18 year old son.  Edgar was killed in a Culiacan shopping center parking lot, where he came under attack by 15 gunmen.

After the killing of Arturo Beltran Leyva in December 2009, BLO weakened and entered a decline of power. In this scenario, the imprisonment of El Chapo and his expected extradition, could give new impetus to the cartel.

According to sources consulted by Ríodoce, the aggressors were members of the of the Beltran Leyva and Fausto Isidro Meza Flores Cartels “Chapito Isidro”, is said to  have led the attack, directed against Chapo Guzman, the longtime nemesis of the two cartels.



RioDoce is reporting that residents say there were 8 people killed, and three communities were attacked, they were; Arroyo Seco, La Tuna, and La Palma. The attack occurred last Saturday, but information was just released late Wednesday .

Update Thursday afternoon (added by Chivis)

The Sinaloa governor Mario López Valdez, today addressed the story of gunmen attacking La Tuna and other communities last weekend.

He acknowledged there were “armed men” in the mountains of Badiraguato, Sinaloa.  But he said, the mother of El Chapo as not harmed and was not kidnapped.  He further explained the clash is “between families”, but he did not specify which families.

IMO gave more cred to the story, and chose his words carefully.


He would not confirm or deny there were any deaths, or that there were clashes with security forces.
La Tuna birthplace of El Chapo


355 comments:

  1. also found a article upi that a guard of el chapo was found dead. 20 year old kid.

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    1. Snitches get stiches, huero palma didn't waste no time

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    2. we have the story, it is 3 down from this

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    3. no mames , huero palma he locked up

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    4. May be Chapo took weros Contacts n made mo money mo money moou.. That could explain taking worthless cars n sheet.. Come for it all

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  2. I smell Caro quintero mayo zambada. It's too easy to point the finger at the Beltran's

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    1. If it was Zambada I'm sure Los Chapitos will respond sooner rather than later...

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    2. It's the return n release of El Huero Palma!

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    3. I doubt it was Beltran didn't chapo mom used to babysit them???

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    4. maybe chapo Isidro trying to flex his power...~@~

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    5. El M GRANDE Zambada has to much pull chapos kids fuckd up

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    6. Chapo Isidro taking over

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    7. In any case, the heroic juersaz armadas and polesias federales de la nazion de epn, carlos salinas de gortari and carlos slim helu cleaned the joint and left it ready for this trespass by 150 sicarios, "only they could know that insider information"

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    8. Los Salazar for Adam Salazar maybe

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  3. Muerte a Los Guzman!

    Tijuana Ya Esta En Culiacan!

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    1. Pinche vato mamon tijuana siempre sera plaza de un Sinaloense como sea.

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    2. Estas pendejo!

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    3. It took awhile for the Arellanos to get there!

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    4. Con todo respeto Tijuana esta perdido. No les combiene meterse ala boca del lobo. Ahpenitas pueden asegurar su plaza.

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    5. Plebez d Arturo Villarreal EL 6-1 round numero 2

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  4. The BLO brothers wouldn't allow an attack of the very same woman who raised them. The cartels do some twisted shit but this is too personal to be the BLO. It has to be an internal conflict between the CDS factions. They are at each other's throat right now.

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    1. Yeah cus u grew up with them

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  5. was chapos mom in the house?

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  6. The moment el guero stepped foot in Mexican soil he called the hit Guzamn betrayed him when he got captured in Nayarit

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    1. lol called what hit? on chapos moms neighbor? What a high profile assasination....lmao

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  7. SEDENA revenge for the guard

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  8. El Chapo se esta cagando... en la prison.

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  9. BB you do great work but I think your looking at this like its the old days where it was CDS vs BLO. If it was Beltran Levya is would have been the clan responsible and not the organization as there really isn't a CDS or BLO anymore. This could have even been Mayo. IDK when this happened but perhaps it was people close with Guero Palma that they carried out at the same time he came back to Mexico as some sort of revenge for whatever reason. But bottom line, 150 gunman wouldn't have been able to get close to the town if they weren't allowed to so this shows that Chapo's power is really gone now and that other clans/traffickers control the area now. The man that ran that area for Chapo was called Cristobal and he was the one who died late last year. I fear more violence all over La Sierra is to come and eventually they will have the same outlook on the cartels as the rest of Mexico does when everything fragments and its just young bosses running around the mountains killing each other and forcing people to grow for them. Slowly all the country's plazas and cartels have fragmented into low level drug addicted gangs and it looks like this is happening now. The question is, if Chapo's power in the area is lost, why haven't his sons or family members been killed or arrested? Where the do they fit into this? Maybe they don't work at all.

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    1. We went with the story last night because mainstream media (mexican) were running it. But I personally have issues with it, mainly there isn't one foto yet produced of anything. In this day of cell phone photography it seems suspect that there is a lack of some documentation.

      That said, I think "something" did happen. People are talking to reporters and supposedly there is now a large deployment of federal elements in the area.

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    2. Could it be the government? retailation for prison worker

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    3. Hi chivis you also got to consider the strong stranglehold the cartel has on information within the area. Anyone who post anything can become a target, especially en la sierra

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    4. Where are Los Chapitos? Would someone from their own territory heat their safe zone for some reason? Who would stand to gain anything from this type of action? This doesn't seem like an mz move because it wouldn't benefit him to send 150 men just to ruffle weathers... Maybe someone is sending a message and making a push for control of the mountain.

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    5. All I could really think of is the gavillas not being payed they are the ones who roam the Sierra that deep it just seems fishy though.

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    6. Regardless of the entire facts of the events taking place in this community of La Tuna, el Debate de Mazatlan newspaper is reporting as of this very moment that Chapos mother and family have already moved away and evacuated that area! This leads to believe that things for CDS whether it be due to infighting or rivals attacking are not looking good for the cartel and specially for the Guzmans!

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    7. 6:41 Wow . It is a possibility . Regardless , it is the chickens coming home to roost . You sow evil that is the crop you get to harvest.

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    8. Maybe because there inhiding!chaputos sons are the ones rating on everyone just like they did one of the torres that just got caught✌

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  10. Shit is gunna get hot in sinaloa!

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  11. Waiting on the Huggies to leave a cuento chino comment

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    1. "Huggies" great phrase coining...love it

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  12. I say caf or isidro.

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  13. They came deep and didn't harm Chapos mom, this had to be a beef within the CDS for them to show respect like that. BTW La Palma is the Beltrans birthplace so highly doubt they murdered their old neighbors

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    1. Wrong, ,BLO Are from El Guamuchilito

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  14. Wait, so the first option is that Ivan and Alfredo attacked their own nan? or have I misunderstood?

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    1. No, it was settling of scores against Chapos sons, that is one theory

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    2. what did his sons do??? probably to much cocaine?

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    3. Chapo fuckd up long time ago for trying to hand the keys ivan so mayo zambada wasnt having that so thats how some of conflict started

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    4. yes, of course you nailed it... :(

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    5. Cuales keys güey, everybody works and does their thing on their own, it is not like one car", güey...

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    6. settling of scores? who got killed besides neighbors

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    7. I was only asking chivis, it wasn't clear. :(

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  15. The beltrans are married into the guzman family .....the mother was not hurt so that tells me she is held in high regards.....the beltrans are the only ones who could pull this off......the minute your seen in that area you become a target.....for 150 men to be in that area they would have to be from there

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    1. Finally! someone has a smart comment! Very true!

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    2. Isnt chapo isidro in jail

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    3. All this Fucking speculating no one has said anything of proof of who done it yet. El mencho for sure can deploy 150 men easy. I don't know much about this chapito guy but blo got that kind of muscle anymore

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    4. ^ this guy saying beltranes aint got muscle no more lol. No one goes up into Badiraguato but beltranes and guzmanes factions. Its like north and south korea border always a peaceful standoff except here they fuck each other up sometimes

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    5. i feel like it was el mencho because first chapos compadre gets kiddnaped in nyarit witch belong to cjng

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  16. Let's see how the grand kids handle this hahaha, I bet they won't do nothing?

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  17. how do they even know how many gunmen it was?

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  18. Hahaha pinches sapos y chapulines thats what ya get puro beltran leyva hijos del yoyo.karma is a bitcn.thats why u choose your enemies wisely. I swear sinaloa cartel son panochudos.

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    1. You so happy but we still do not know who did it but I'm more interested how you think it is about you

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  19. Chapo isidro the real chapo that gave the fake chapo a pain in the ass.matter fact call him like we do my cousin la chapis.

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    1. Really well after chapo is locked up that is when they feel so brave what happen before?

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    2. Wow! Hey everyone, I spotted at tough guy. Tough guy over here!

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    3. 7:16 echale agua bendita al tough guy, güey

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  20. I'm happy to know this, I think is about time they start to feel the pain about living in fear.

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    1. Where you at chapo lol

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    2. dude Chapos mom wasn't hurt, shows that they're ready to fight for the plaza but not risk their families life in retaliation by dropping Señora Loera. These dildos started shit they don't even know how to get out of already

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  21. Here are other article links about this story
    http://www.newsjs.com/mx/huye-de-la-tuna-familia-de-el-chapo-por-enfrentamientos/drrAtxDQItfMCDMtm3AcbjyGDnWVM/

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  22. 150 gunmen is batallio. I thought Chapo owned everyone in that area. Guess not.

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    1. he is in max lockup they wont let talk to anyone stupid. no one attack la tuna when Chapo was out thats a fact.

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    2. Could anyone outside CDS even come that close??

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  23. Y porque el morronis de la Palma de Navolato no iso nada

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    1. This was ordered from el chapo. To cause heat, kill a few nosey neighbors , and have the government help his family out of that region before El Chapo becomes DEAs number one informat of all time. Taking out the cartels and Mexican government. Chapo Guzman is about to snitch

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    2. Maybe he was one of the dead? Rip morronis

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    3. Haha good one. Si es cierto

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    4. Morroñis was killed in the shootout in Los mochis with cholo vagos people ajuuuuaa!

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  24. Everyone here in sinaloa is happy this happened, chapo is a snitch nobody likes him

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    1. Yes everyone is happy around the world

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  25. Huero palma did good his first day in Mexico

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    1. Palma sent a clear message to Chapo

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  26. No code anymore. Anything is fair game to these Mexican savages. Back when Colombian cartels were big, even they had a sense of honor and duty unlike these Mexican beasts

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    1. We're coming for it al!!!VIVA MEXICO

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    2. i dont think you know much of the colombians.... they attcked families of narcos and innocent people all the time they even blew a plane full of people out of the air

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    3. Wrong... they were the first to hit your family if you wronged them.. do you know what a columbian neck tie is?

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    4. These so called "men" or "drug traffickers" have NO code anymore. No respect or honor like way back in the 70's and 80's. There are no more than just punks and savages. No class at all even with the millions of dollars in their pockets. Money should be a way out of the life of pettiness that surrounds you. Not for these morons.

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    5. 6:41 Yea right . The Mexican learned from the Columbians . I don't get where all you people are coming from with your code of honor bullshit . Ever think that there really never was one and just now you are seeing outside your illusion .

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    6. En mi pais no entra ningun cartel mexicano alv

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  27. Como no está el gato, se alborotan los ratones...
    Y como "ganó" el pri, ya se les está subiendo la caca de las Huggies a dos que tres mini-narco priistas...
    --Veracruz style bullshit moving to sinaloa, the never ending caja china del "pri and co."

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    1. Haci como Chaputo aprovecho o chismio la captura de sus enemigos pues ahora se le voltearon los papeles a el guey! Que chinge su puts madre y todos los que lo defienden por culo el y ellos tambien!

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  28. Jajajaja... That's what she gets for supporting her son. She's lucky she is still alive. I hope she rethinks about everything she has supported all these years.

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    1. She has lived en la sierra all her life. You think this is the first time she seen the cartel game. They have been in the game a while now

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  29. Cowardly act!.. Whoever did it!.. His mom & anybody mom is a no-go!.. Specially when El Chapo was out there was no attack like this!.. Using my common sense... This came frm some1 close 2 El Chapo... I smell El Mayo... Fact

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    1. I got that right el M grande behind this

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    2. Mayo sending a warning at chapo sons

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    3. Yes, someone is taking the shoot now when El Chapo is in prison. The three sons seems to have no respect among others. I bet the sons dont know how to respond to get respected..

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    4. It's not a fact if your basing it off your common sense

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    5. Mayo is the one that keeps the shit running why wld he go after his compadres mom? That sounds stupid

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    6. Mayo is sending a message to Chapo to not snitch the same way he sent a message to Chino Antrax by killing his wife. Showing Chapo how easy it is to get to his mother.

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    7. It's because El Mayo is next in line to take over 4:38. Since Chapo is incarcerated El Mayo is the heir to be the supreme leader of CDS. But other groups (Los Chapitos and El Lic) are contesting his power. It's a power move to show Mayo's subordinates where their place is and its either beneath him or out of the game completely. It wouldn't surprise me if El Mayo sent Chapo Isidro in to heat up the area. After all there is a rumor that El Mayo has a truce with the BLO/Zetas. El Mayitos manpower is stretched thin because of the fighting in Tijuana and BCS. So "hiring" Chapo Isidro is a smart business move on Mayo's part because you don't have to move any sicarios from Tijuana or Baja. Remember BLO and the Zetas are hitmen first and drug dealing is a side hobby. I could be wrong but stranger things have happened in the drug war in the last 8 yrs. I think outside of the box and when dealing with the cartels there is no black and white it's all gray.

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  30. Damn Lucio , you have been workin' it hard !
    Muchas gracias

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  31. If this was any kind of infighting within the CDS this is a real dangerous way to play - shooting up the home of El Chapos mother. For all they know she could have been home and gotten killed by the stray bullets even if the gunmen did not directly aim at her. At the loss of Chapos mother his sons would have to admit that nothing would replace her and probably would be best if they broke apart from the CDS for their operations sake if not for their own life's sake. They should probably start concidering this even now if this was the case.
    If it was not infighting within the cartel CDS better get their shit together and regroup meaning stop causing shit in places like Chihuas for example (which borders ELP where I live), and take care of their home turf before anything else. CDS is kind of afraid of resealing pressure from Chihuahua from what it seems like though.
    I could however care less about CDS or Sinaloa or even Chapos mother. Just stating facts.

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    1. You have to think that El Chapo's sons have been given everything on a silver platter their entire life. With that said when Chapo was locked up his son's assumed they were destined to take over for their dad. If you know anything about narco culture then you know it doesn't work that way. They have to pay their dues and take orders just like the rest of the newbies. It will be interesting to find out if the Guzman boys learn their lesson or keep on fighting.

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  32. the Gov. say's let them kill each other.in my opinion unite people,and and each and everyone will get a piece of the cake

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  33. is this the beginning of the war between los chapos and mayo peeps

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    1. maybe chapo vs mayo coming soon. hope not though

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  34. Chapo's mom raised los Beltran brothers .

    But El Chapo Isidro that is another story .

    Damn 150 gunmen . What happened to los Caimanes los Talibanes,la Gente Nueva ,Los Antrax ,Los Acme ?

    Pinche corridos

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    1. This has nothing to do with corridos los antrax are Mayo's people most of them are locked up in culiacan and some of them are dead

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    2. Los Antrax is non existent. And that's Mayo crew.

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    3. EL TEMO /THE TEMOJune 16, 2016 at 10:11 AM

      They must of been on break :). ....kould happen :)

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  35. Chapo fell behind on the payments for the motorcycles that were taken. It was a repo job not no hit squad.

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    1. EL TEMO /THE TEMOJune 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM

      So true my anonymous parriente repo men N Mexico don't fuck around :). ....make your monthly payments or get a shit load of bullets :)

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  36. I watched a show on a reporter trying to interview el chap's mom. The cartel there had complete control of the entire area. How did 150 men get all the way to here home and attack? You have to go through all these windy rods to get to that town. Its way out there in the mountains.

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    1. Exactly! They couldn't of past through there unnoticed + there is a military station through Badiraguato and several police checkpoints before you get to this place. First the mass shooting in the US now this.. EPN following Obummers footsteps.. Delusion.. Distractions.. How long will they keep thinking you guys are so stupid that you swallow all this in?

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    2. I am not so sure about that, there is fear about the uncertainty of the future, perhaps there is an infestation of Chapulines. It has all become so confusing.

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  37. Wow chinaloa no more.

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  38. Chapos security team moved Consuelo up to the caves is had nada to do with the gunmen sparing her live.

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  39. Could this have been a warning to Ivan? We all agree, that she could have easily been killed. I don't think the "bad guys" held her in high honor to keep her alive, as they had no problem stealing. I am certain it was a warning for Ivan. He has posted social media pictures at her home. Who ever ordered this attack, needed something from Ivan or else why leave the grandmother alive? Has to be a territory dispute among CDS. If it was a true rival like BLO or another non CDS crew, Chapos mom would be dead!

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    1. If they came for Ivan they would have taken Consuela as a hostage. Imagine Chapos mom getting tortured on camera...we have all mentioned it saying how it seems possible. After seeing the news reporters who tried to go to her house and seeing all the "neighbors" come out on quads I knew she was being protected and its more of a compound then anything else. This is all confusing.

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  40. I've been speculating for months now on what these recent developments confirm, Ysidro under the battle hardened flag of the BLO is making moves.
    This has been setting up for some time.
    The article illustrates what I have felt all along, in that BLO/Isidro haven't been as strong due to top tier losses which is conducive to top tier connects. Ysidro, despite all has managed to keep Operational Authority in Northern Sinaloa, with HQ in Los Mochis none other. The Federation could never dislodge him. He has a History of Leading large scale strategic attacks against Heavy Hitters.
    I've said before manyou times as well, Guerro Palma won't be taking Orders from Ivan, and with his Nana being drug outside by her hair, it don't look like nobody else is either.
    Statements are being made, not moves. They are..
    Chapo has lost all control
    $2-$3 Billion market share up for grabs
    Ysidro is El Rey de la Sierra

    Lastly, the final piece of this Hostile Takeover is seeing exactly what approach Guerro takes, and where Azul and Caro fit in.
    I believe Guerro will align with Ysidro taking Chapo share, and knocking Mayo out for his. Caro and Azul will then align with them.

    ~Spectator

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    1. You could have a point dea investigator man.

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    2. If you would put that much effort in school or work not in what you dream about cartels you will not be a spectator anymore but a productive active member of society

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  41. The beltrans that respect chapos mom are not here.. This was a sign to show chapo n his sons that he can be touched n his family too. Chapos sons better grow or buy some balls n TCB..

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  42. I read a comment in the forum and It was by Siskiyou_Kid. He stated that Chapos Mom is guarded 24 hours a day by body guards. If this is true, how could they go to her house and do damage. Is chapos power gone?

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  43. Zambada is behind this. My opinion...

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  44. 150 men thats 20-30 trucks. Someone close to him ok'd it. Its more of a statement then actually robbing

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  45. Cartel de Fausto Isidro Meza Flores

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  46. "Chivis" any new updates on this story...?? ~@~

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    1. I just got back to my office I will ck around...

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  47. It's was a faction of CDS and Beltran leyvas this could of only happened by people close to him!

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  48. This is going to change the equation by attacking a cartel town. Agreed the 150 makes no sense at all and to do such is not only out of character for any cartel but a shame.

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  49. How can 30 plus truck just go up the mountains and no one noticed..... it could be someone that used to be a CDS

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    1. That's right. Wasn't supposed el chapo mother house surrounded by bodyguards? When they did the documentary at the moms house, guys on 4wheelers didn't let them close and told them to leave the city.

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    2. @ 6:23 at the sight of 150 men fucking body guards probably ran in fear! They may have managed to get Chapos mom out of her house though for she turned up unharmed. Where? Nobody knows where she was at the time of the shooting.
      FYI according to Sinaloan corridos it is not uncommon to see multi vehicles comvoys of trucks running through the mountains in Sinaloa either.

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    3. This story is not true nothing happened in la tuna this bunch a crap... My cousin lives in culiacan and he has family en la maña y he said "que no mames plebe esa Mamada no ha pasado son puras mentiras" source from la maña...

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  50. Mayo is trying to send a message to El Chapo. To keep him from talking to the US govt. El Chapo is trying to set up a deal with the US so when he gets e xtradited they will go easy on him. Mayo problaly got tipped off this is happening by his US govt contacts. El Chapo is giving up Mayo

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    1. The little bitch Chapo will be singing like his famous corridos in order to avoid extradition to the U.S. or to gain a lighter sentence if he is extradited! All narcos sing under pressure of life in Prison in the U.S.! This shooting will only work to divide CDS if it happened like you said however rather than help out! Ivan and his brother might decide to call it quits from Mayo since they cannot control what their father will do in U.S. custody which is snitch!

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    2. Not, they already know Mayo is a kingpin what could Chapo say they dont already know?

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    3. Sounds like a reasonable explanation!!

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    4. Sounds legit

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    5. I believe this is what is happening also

      ~~~el spaceio~~~

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    6. @4:10 Chapo could say where Mayo frequents or hides out! He could also say who or where their main contacts or associates are located across the U.S. or the world. The possibilities are endless!

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    7. Yeah but all of mayo family snitched.. Vicente, el Rey , mayito Gordo and serafin...chapo should have went after mayo for his family snitching and took over his faction not the other way around

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  51. Who else in sinaloa has the power to command a 150 men..

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    1. Isidro and Guerro's brothers

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    2. Z40 most powerful man in Mexico.

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    3. Z40? Get the fuck out of here.

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  52. I hope the whole Chapo family will seek refuge in America, where they can be safe from all the Mexican criminals!

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    1. Chapo found dead in his cell!!!!!!! Celebrate

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  53. Not too sure of all details, and no I am nowhere near Sinaloa but u don't have to be a rocket scientist to see there was high level of respect if chapo's mother wasn't harmed.
    Where I'm from Beef is Beef and yes there are codes to be respected but this has to be done by someone who cares about his Mother.

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  54. 150 men. That's alot of cordite in the air. - El Sol Perdido

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  55. The mom could of had a special hidden caparment room to hide in and that why she's alive.

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  56. This story is running like wild fire all over the place but every single one says that is unconfirmed. But if it is true I will say that I'm ok with this, Chapo's people have done plenty of damage to several people. It is time for them to pay the price of their bull shit.

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  57. Chapos vs blo again

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  58. Damaso or Mayo ? CJNG or BLO ?

    They stole the motorcycles .Where is Ivan ?

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  59. I really doubt this anything to do with BLO..Or Even Palma for that matter.

    This is something internal or even chapo himself orders.

    If internal it be smart way to shut him up if be trying broker a deal.

    if its his orders its another smart reason to have reason to stay. Family safety or even have them moved to U.S for safety. His wife & kids have pass to get in. She most likely doesn't.


    no beltran left to run BLO to even give the order.
    And the ones still alive highly doubt will. In the end they all still family. Through kids and marriages

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  60. ok....i will add an update to the post above. the governor IMO gave more cred to the story, while choosing his words carefully he said COnsuela was unharmed and not kidnapped, but "the problem" is a clash between families, but he did not say which families.

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    1. Thanks for the update the plot thickens. Any guesses on what families?

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    2. Hijole Chivis ya nos tenian al pendiente si eran Beltranes o otros enemigos que haigan entrado a Sinaloa. Menos mal que solos se estan dando en la madre el CDS por lo que parece (sarcasmo).
      Bola de pendejos creidos los de el CDS que piensan que ellos nunca ivan a fragmentar como lo hicieron todos los demas carteles! Que el CDS trabaja como empresa presumen. Y ahora qur dicen? Ojala y les den en la madre otros carteles de adeberas ahora que estan debiles los pendejos peleandose entre si. Y el que no piense que sucesos como estos no debilitan a este cartel, no sabe nada de historia tampoco!

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    3. This afternoon the head of the state police in Sinaloa (interview on ForoTV) denied knowledge of any of this happening. This followed earlier statements by the governor, who admitted he really didn't know what happened.

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  61. Chapito Isidro just signed his familys death warrant. Everyone already knows where they live. Little Chapito has a very bad cocaine habit and his decisions lately are fuled by smoking the drug. He messed up bad is the word.

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  62. All this shows chapo is loosing power! This wouldn't of happen a few years back!

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  63. They probably came for the Capos stash.

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  64. This hit was most likely by cjng. Some people have said beltranes but they shot up la palma where beltran leyva are from so its not them.

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  65. Mexico is entertaining as long as they stay down there . No really I wish civilization would reach them either by compliance or by force . I hope another trafficker gets to die of natural causes unless its behind bars . After the US civil war there were a lot of outlaws here in the US . Smart hard men were assigned to take them down . They weren't always dealt with according to the rules . All the law enforcement weren't squeaky clean . That what it took back then . I see the same tactics used now in Mexico . Soldiers get fired on and the soldier often kill them out . Them everybody cries foul . Gonna get a lot worse down there before it gets better . too many criminals .

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  66. Shorty is near the border to give DOJ ready access for the proffers negotiations. BLO/C.I. have a 'jewelers eye' for rats and they are pushing back.

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    1. That's put very well. That's what this is all about. Everybody knows Chapo is going to give up everyone and everything in order to try to get into Marion or Leavenworth.

      The ONLY reason his mother wasn't decapitated is because she fed her children, and BLO Brothers out of the same pot when they where young.

      If Ivan had a handle on things this would never have happened. Power has changed hands.

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    2. You've been a snitch before right? Only a snitch will know the word "proffer"

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    3. Yo 6:20 back at ya. Only a moron would not know what a proffer is. If you read the federal court filings which are routinely included in some of the great BB reporting, you will see that proffers are often discussed. Put the bong down now or increase your medication level.

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  67. Consider this theory. Chapo sent his own men to the sierra to "steal." This explains why his mother was unharmed. Motive? To get his mother out of there in the first place. With her life seemingly now in danger, she seeks asylum in the US (granted given the circumstances)awaiting her son to be extradited. How else do 150 men get in there?

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    1. Interesting theory. However to answer your question " how else do 150 men get in there?". Answer; they get there however they want! 150 armed men are a force to be reckoned with among civilians-keyword. Do you think that a dozen perhaps men ealking or on quads acting as halcones (lookouts), and even bodyguards for Chapos home in the mountains has the balls to confront so many men? HELL NO!
      From what the famous Sinaloan corridos mention though is that it is not uncommon to see scores of sicarios in pickup trucks running through mountain towns in Sinaloa. These halcones analizing the sitiation to be out of their control might have been the people that got Chapos mom out of harms way however for this article does not state where she was be it at home or across town during those events. Nor does it mention where the rest of Chapos family was for I doubt she lives alone in that mansion of hers!

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    2. I was thinking the same thing. That would be very interesting indeed.

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    3. Nah ill pass........

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    4. Somebody else said this a few comments up. This sound possible

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  68. This goes way beyond cartels this is family's in la Sierra going at it Ivan took out Adam Salazar for betrayal and the Salazar send in men for that gn is no longer cartel de Sinaloa CHAPO faction

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  69. Chapito Isidro is one crazy dude ...H2 and H9 providing security

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  70. I dont think alfredito tito beltran would have allow that. Kind of suspicious to have 150 men , they must of been from close buy. Could be mayo

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  71. was this just to show chapo that his family is reachable by someone close to him? im sure they could of killed her if they really wanted to

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  72. Z 40 has had beef with chapo in jail and sent beltrans to send a messege I heard

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  73. El mayo 100% had to have ok'd this. Here's the insider tip of the day for you guys, a couple months before chapo escaped Ivan had problems with Lupe Tapia and tried ambushing him from all sides of Lupe's ranch with 200+ men. Well as soon as el Mayo found out he called Ivan and told him you touch a hair on his head and you have problems with me. Guess what Ivan obeyed...

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  74. Where's the "Chapo snitched" guy?

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    1. Here bro reading all the comments, p.s. I never had respect for chapo he was selfish

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  75. Are you guys all doubting Riodoce? They are from Sinaloa they know. If they reported that it was Chapo Isidro sending a message to chapos sons than that's pretty much what it is

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  76. I don't think that it was guero palma. He wouldn't care and kill chapo's family as retribution for his family being violently wiped out.

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  77. Asumecha! Ay pedo en el ejido. Para mi que va ver desmadre.

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  78. Someone sitting there counting each gunman or were they wearing numbers or signing their name on a signup roster with 150 X's? lol fucking illiterate scumbags but who actually counted exactly 150 gunmen? Some of these "factual" inaccuracies make me laugh. Why kill the neighbors if the Guzman's were the target?

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    1. Exactly! So confusing

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      They killed the neighbor because he was the one counting....

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  79. I'm happy to know this news. The mother of Chapo Guzman was not directly involved on criminal activities but for sure lived a real good life on a house so big. I don't understand how, or why the Mexican government allows the relatives of criminals to use illicit proceeds to live luxurious life style. Amazing.

    After this she will know she's no longer safe, it is time for them to feel the pain. Anyone who use the blood money is as guilty as the criminals who provide for them, fuck them all.

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    1. Well according to other information floating around her house was not ransacked or shot up or anything stolen she was never in danger there were shoot out but I'm guessing probably her security detail or other preventing the invasion.

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  80. What if it's a warning to Chapo to not roll on Mochomo or maybe the Zambada kids.. If you do your mom and kids will pay with their lives? Like a show of force kind of deal?

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  81. @5:03PM has the CORRECT ANSWER.
    It's really not that hard to figure out.
    Ysidro has Heart. An if it's the people you mean to rule, you must treat the people right.
    What better way to do that than to have the life of the almighty Chapo in your hands, then turn her loose like a small fish. That shows true power. Ultimate Power.
    It's sends a strong message to Chapo Son's.
    Last couple of months there has nothing but a kidnapped compadre, two leaders of the imperial guards of the strong hold and imperial family murdered, and finally the matriarch herself dragged out of her home by her hair. All of these moves against Chapo. All of them.

    For those sitting back thinking bout Mayo and anthrax need to wake up. The man's son's from the crown prince to the Crack head are all material witnesses against the guys mom who just got drug by her hair...

    New Dawn in Sinaloa. When the dust settles, it will look something like
    Guerro Palma, Ysidro, out front. Azul and Caro financial backing, in exchange for security.

    In the beginning, and to the end it has always been a Cartel you know. A true Cartel no different than de Beers or OPEN. That is to say, men with a lot of the same product that work together in order to cut costs,and maximize profits. When you think of it along those lines, and take into account that you can't tunnel out of the Rockies - it's very easy to see how this shakes up.

    ~ Spectator

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  82. Chapo Isidro is strong but alliance with CJNG makes him HEAVY.

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  83. There hasn't been 1 comment on how Chapo must feel about this and if retribution may be forthcoming for this incident.

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  84. Los Avengadores? Avengers?

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  85. This Is Mexican government message to Chapo to not talk.. When he's extradited, that's why they didn't kill his mom. that's why you will not see or hear about retaliation. Nobody not one cartel is above the government. This is the message

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  86. It was probably the military. After they found the soldier that was in charge of chapo in juarez dead.

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  87. Has it came to anyone that this could have been la linea in retaliation for the 20 year old killed maybe he was part of Juarez cartel ???????

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