Monday, February 15, 2016

Remains of hundreds of victims, discovered at Veracruz ranch

Lucio R. Borderland Beat Translated material from Animal Politico

Almost three thousand fragments of human remains on a ranch in Veracruz

Two of these 5 students who vanished January 11,  have been identified among the discovered remains
It is estimated that the remains belong to hundreds of victims who were killed and their bodies burned and crushed.  Tierra Blance families seek Argentine  and New Mexico experts to confirm the remains of their children.


The ranch, ‘El Limón’ in Veracruz, where the remains of two of the five students who disappeared on January 11 were discovered,  was used by organized crime with the suspected complicity of security forces,  to eliminate the bodies of hundreds of people taken hostage over several years.

The discovery of nearly three thousand fragments belonging to hundreds of bodies was discovered  at the ranch, located in the town of Tlalixcoyan, in the state of Veracruz.

The fragments were collected at El Limón ranch, after three days of forensic work, by state experts and the Federal Scientific Police Division.

The search, which initiated because of citizen complaint, began by using dogs trained in  the location of human remains. 



"The experts in forensic anthropology were working three days in the area to excavate  and process the parts that had been found.

Among the fragments collected are various particles,  from pieces of bone to other objects that are present in human composition, such as blood.

Authorities stated,  the problem for the experts, is that much of the fragments found are in a state of significant deterioration, making it difficult to be processed and identified with conventional forensic evidence. For example, and most notably,  bone fragments were calcined.

Because of this, it has not been able to determine, exactly how many bodies belong to the three thousand fragments found at the ranch, but officials estimate it could be hundreds of victims.

So far, from a pair of bones and a bloodstain, it was possible to identify victims, who were the  young people missing in Tierra Blanca.

The hypothesis is, that the victims were taken to the ranch, where their captors proceeded to burn their bodies and then grind the remains, much like conventional cremation and ultimately burying them.

Yesterday, Deputy Secretary for Human Rights of the Ministry of Interior, Roberto Campa, confirmed that the ranch was used to for mass elimination of abducted and murdered victims.


61 comments:

  1. Where's the Pope????

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    1. on his way to Michoacán, a place where hundreds of other people were slaughtered and buried in clandestine graves.

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    2. Actually, he's in Estado de Mexico, where thousands have been killed in narco violence. He then goes to Chiapas tomorrow. That state is ruled by the most corrupt politician in the country. Then, on Tuesday he goes to Michoacán, a state ruled by a criminal, lying class. Then he goes to Chihuahua, where tens of thousands have been slaughtered in the last ten years.

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    3. Who owns Chiapas gov Manuel Coello? He's partido verde

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    4. 9:19 manuel coello pvem is owned by el PRI...
      --pvem boss "el niño verde", is owned by epn and el pri, and protected, is or was a senator, but he was involved in the murder of a foreign student who "fell to her death" from his apartment where he used to have orgies with pendejas to rape.
      --coello married some "anahi" to have a televisa star pose as his beard, and he spends millions and millions of pesos in televisa propaganda, and i'm sure drug trafficking helps fuel his perspirations about being "Presidente Princess Queen" de los Versailles mexicanos...his state is right by guatemala...

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    5. @1:49 I'd heard that coello got most of his popular support from his marriage to a telenovela star. My main question is which cartel bought him? With Chiapas being the gateway through which all of the overland narco trafficking flows into Mexico, I would think the group that owns the governor would be extremely powerful. Moreover, I always got the impression that no one cartel controls Chiapas, that only importation cells and a few estacas existed for each cartel, besides the multitude of training camps in the jungle.

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    6. For running against PRI/peña nieto and PRD/AMLO, PVEM/Gabriel quadri, el niño verde, owner of pvem got the governorship of chiapas, for HIS candidate, coello...
      --Quadri, a chilango porro agente del gobierno, took votes away from amlo, making epn's job easier...
      If el PRI is going to have ruvals, they will be chosen by el pri too, and belice sends drugs through yucatan, and others traffick on the coasts, ant size, but it works for some, I remember in the age of reaganomics, it was all airplanes, CIA owned or contracted, and politicians were happy with the pellejos pal gato...
      --today, the politicians will eat el gato and los pellejos...

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  2. So sad,kidnapping has ripped through Mexico like a wildfire as many capos get arrested and big drug connections go down,the splintering of once organized crime and drug smuggling has contributed.So much for take away drug demand and everything will be alright,funny thing is the cartels(CDG)themselves fucked it up by killing each other,M3,Gringo(Nosa)M4,el Puma,Paquito,C1jnr,Tachas,snitching,Gafe,M103,Simple,C1,X20,etc,Gringo was supposedly a huge moneymaker with drug moves(a dude was caught with 12 million dollars trying to buy coke for Gringo Mike)and influence,didnt stop X20Pelon killing him and many of his people.

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    1. No offence 2:55 but take away drug demand from the equation and everything will be alright ? The evil people here will quit victimizing others ? Sure they will become good people .
      Not the complete solution .

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    2. Greed demands money, not drugs, the greedy drug traffickers that make all the money and may have never used drugs are the problem, not the lowly grameros or the pinchis addictos.

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    3. 7:20 PM
      Man,so we know claramente.Many on here blame US demand?Take drugs and demand away?And everything will be alright,fuck no.Theyll do what they are doing now.Many big capos who gone down,were the drug connections and movers.No drugs,they move into kidnapping,extorting,pirating shit,petrol,whatever,anything,they dont care.When mucho las drogas was around people got paid without involving clean hands people,most of the time.

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    4. 11:10 the people that keep most of the profits generated by drug trafficking, do not do drugs, some do not even drink coffee, or alcohol, are experts on "education" and very religious, they may love their cars enough to make them three, four or five floor garages, but love their one and only wife more than anythin' in the world, and they rise.children like then, their only problem is they looove money too much, any money, no matter where it comes from as long as it ends in their pocket...they do not care about Mother Mary...

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    5. It's the the complete solution and the truly evil will still find victims to kill. But and that's a big but the majority of the people that are committing these murders believe it or not are not truly evil. Most or drugged up out of there minds while committing these acts drugs that are given to them by the truly evil behind them. Also many have been brainwashed to believe that these things are a normal part of survival and a way to have a better life by working up the ranks. So true evil is not stoppable but a great deal of what is happening in mass in Mexico would be without the trade that offers the dream of being rich beyond your dreams or even just not starving living in a hut.

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    6. Kill or be killed mentality.I would vow to be killed I think.

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    7. 1:57 not true a lot of them are former addicts and others under pressure will do drugs (like botas blancas)

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    8. Just like the black man post slavery times was worth a 1/3 of a white person in the US. The law bidding citizen who doesn't want to work in the drug industry in Mexico are worth 1/3 of a person to the Mexican elite. It's a sad situation but unfortunately the slaughter of innocent victims has occurred in Mexico for centuries. It has nothing to do with drug supply or demand. It has to do with the Mexican elite believing that the lower class are at their disposal. There are too many stories in Mexican history that backs my claim. Don't get me wrong I am not Mexican and I have very little Hispanic blood but call it what it is. Mexico has a recorded history of the mass murder of its own people since the North Amercian discovery by the Spanish and Portuguese.

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  3. ...and who owned the ranch?
    Who lived there?
    Time line of disappearances?
    Who has the resources to spend on such a thorough effort to cover up Mister Hyde?
    --Doctor Jekill, javier duarte de ochoa, la marrana ojos de toro loco?
    --probesito, Ora todos le van a echar mas caca a el y a su familia, por ser zetas y chaqueteros con cjng

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  4. Savages ...totally killing not only people , but what WAS a beautiful Mexican culture...Mexico will never ever recover from the narco war damage and will never be the same -EVER. The damage is generations deep and severely broken.

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  5. Problaly this are victims of the zetas,but everyone knows that all the cartels do the same horrible crimes and murders,doesn't matter if its inocent people or not,but the question is!!why do we follow them and cheer for one cartel or another??i feel bad for every inocent people that had been killed,tortured and burn to the ashes

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    1. 3:00 pm . I cheer for none and hate them all equally. This era we live in to much is tolerated . It can be stopped but it would take measures that we don't seem to be willing to use anymore .There will come a day ..............

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    2. The mexican people believe and know god therefore they will be judged for their deeds good or bad

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    3. Yeah but how many have to die b4 that judgement day?

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    4. Until some excuse of "containsurgency" campaign is found, the US will have to make do with what they call narco murders and killings, mexico has no communist insurgency problems, so the "narco excuse" will have to make do...to keep up the US state terror campaign against the mexicans by the mexican government...

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    5. Better than Venezuela which also has the crimes and impunity,now people are starving to death slowly.Less and less food in grocery stores.It's against the law to hoard food.You get fingerprinted going to stores so gov knows how much quota you are allowed.I don't know if this is socialism and price of oil is down or not but Venezuela has 2nd biggest oil reserves in world after Saudi and I think they are a member of OPEC.

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    6. 7:01 man i feel bad for the people in venezuela,but the wanted a "change"when the voted for the crooked dead ex president chavez,now there suffering with this other idiot called maduro,if they want change and things to get better all the people in venezuela will have to come together and fight for there rights to have a better life,i hope someday things get better for them in every single way!!

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  6. O son zetas o cjng que isieron eso

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    1. Pensadola bien... son los hombres de peña nieto el es el unico que gana echandole la culpa a los carteles y de ese modo robarles las drogas, dinero y propiedades y el quedar como el unico en control de todos los carteles. Es ovio lo de el contra El Chapo es personal y nada mas que personal.

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    2. On veracruz state, the state police do javier duarte's dirty deeds, i'm not defending the zetas, but they can't be trusted even by a pendejo like duarte, the francisco franco admirer, would only go by the book and by the law and order, javier duarte de ochoa exploits the zetas, the golfas, the cjng, and HIS state police is in on it with both feet in the shit...
      It went from stealing from all over the state for the peña nieto campaign to where there is not much more to steal, that is where he is robbing his partner narcos and murdering dangerous witnesses like anabel...
      --batman must have been paid to let the penguin escape to mexico...

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    3. Too bad.I was in Veracruz,Veracruz 20 years ago.Nice seaside city.Felt safer there than DF but of course this was before the Z's.

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  7. Mas seguro los zetas

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  8. Puede ser el mismo gobierno tambien qur hace esto! Como es posible que despues de tanto muerto y apenas estan encontrando este rancho con estas victimas? Como jay gente cula y mierda en el pais que no tiene los huevos para decir la verdad hacerca lo que sospechan y tal ves saben. Las autorirades incluidas al igual que los asesinos!
    Que chinguen a su madre con todo el sentido de la palabra todos los que les cayo el saco!

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    1. Maybe the biiig baaad narcos where not aware of javier duarte de ochoa's DUPLICITY, they are not exactly famous for their smartzz and like judas, de ochoa would sell anything and anybody to anybody for personal profit, duarte needs to be hunt like a rat on the streets of veracruz and hanged on the front of the palace of government, just like all the states governors and the "presidente constitucional"
      There is no other way...

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  9. The government is in all these killings....peña nieto is killing and trying to keep the story of El Chapo his priority to distract everyone. Why he is not finding the killers of the student's? Because they are his people!!!! He wants to be it not the carteles.

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  10. Okay and who are the owners of the ranch and did they get arrested?? That is so sad there are so many unrested souls that roam Mexico in the horrible ways they died, there can never be any peace in Mexico because of all the evil that goes on over there God help mexico.

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    1. A lot of ranchers are forced out of their homes. Many abandon them out of fear. - El Sol Perdido

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    2. The ranch belonged to a CJNG according to news. If I don't misunderstand.

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    3. @ 11:07 a.m. You're right. It belonged to Francisco Navarrete Serna, alias “El ingeniero,” local leader of CJNG. He was arrested on Jan. 24 in Veracruz.

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  11. This is so sad. Luckily there's a place called hell for the people who did this!

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    1. Lie detectors could be used, but they were broken to protect the cops that did not pass the thrustworthiness examinations, one of them enrique francisco galindo ceballos, SSP DEL ESTADO DE SAN LUIS POTOSI, now director of the polesia Nazional who hired the officers that failed, epn hired galindo first of all, why?
      --but the teachers that fail get whacked right away...

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  12. Everyone involved in this; directly and indirectly will burn for all of eternity in hell along with the rest of the trash that has ruined mexico

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    1. I doubt the US will let their boys fail, but they must be working overtime, just in case, they are all so stupid, and everything is getting out, all over the place because of the internet...

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  13. Someone asked if the drug demand was removed, will the violence end?
    No, it won't.

    The root cause of the violence is the injustice in society. The corruption of the govt, the impunity of the police and military forces, the lack of opportunities for the young.

    Remove these things and Mexico will be the great place it was meant to be.

    God bless BB
    God bless Mexico
    God bless you.

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    1. I totally agree 10:42 nothing to do with guns,the 3 reasons you stated exactly.

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    2. Everything to do with goonzz, all government related goonzz, and golfas and cjng

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    3. That's the whole point-with corruption and no rule of law,you will have goonzz!

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  14. Why no mention of the owner of this property? Why is this location selected over thousands of others? How many more ranches are currently being used for this same purpose? There must be a connection to the owner(s) of these properties.

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    1. Cjng proclaimed the mata zetas were there, zetas proclaimed the murder victims were not zetas, heheheee, but looks like some people were really dying there, in cjng property...

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  15. Desde Tierra Caliente

    Gobernacion has no idea of how many fosas are in todo de la republica. It is said victimas can total un millón for many años of the work of sicarios. En Chiapas, los indocumentos muertos are said to be many mils. Aqui en Michoacán we are told to not go to places to get leña Guisache. To find bones or body is to invite death.

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  16. I don't get it.....I'm not defending chapo or any cartel for that matter but why is Peña nieto siding with this trash of los Zetas and cjng when CDS never does shit like this? You have to pick the lesser of two evils and if I lived in mexico I would rather live in CDS controlled territory over Zeta controlled territory any day. Businesses in culiacan prosper because there isn't snyone extorting them...go to juarez and see everything has gone down the drain....Peña nieto will one day face the consequences of the damage he's done to mexico.

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    1. Can you please show us the qoute where he publicly states his endorsement for the Zetas, TIA. I am sure that must be why they captured Z-40 and Z-42 not too long ago.

      Also, all carteles are thrash, they all kill, rape, oppress regular citizens. Some more than others.

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    2. Zetas have been dismantled as a transnational organization. They are a shadow of their former glory. Zetas exist mostly in prisons now. El Cartel del Norte is the byproduct of a dismantled Zetas cartel. Mexico is first trying to take down the big cartels one at a time and once these last two are taken care of (CDS and CJNG) then we can move past the kingpin strategy and figure out how to deal with the local chapters of gangs that constitute the remnants of a fragmented and taken down cartel.

      Since 2006 the Mexican government has targeted and dismantled the largest and most violent cartels. It just so happens that CDS and CJNG are next on their target list.

      Long live Mexico

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    3. He's only in for 3 more years like all President's not enough time to change Mexico.

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    4. Hope Mexico doesn't end up like Central America with gangs and thugs everywhere.It's starting to look that way since the splintering but maybe be more manageable for authorities to tackle.They will have less $ to extort authorities but I might be wrong about that at the municipal level.Any opionions on that?

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    5. 5:14 excuses from the incompetent epn, it is like, "should we re-elect epn's ass for 6 more years"?
      --What is worse, looks like they and epn are just stealing the drug trafficking business from the carteles

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    6. Mexican Presidents cannot run for re-election.

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    7. @ 5:31 What exactly will change if that happens? Crime will continue.

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    8. 3:54 zetas are not dismantled. besides the first gafe group the second group (both which started in monterrey) are very much active. the only thing thathas changed is that they're are going back to their clandestine roots MO and recruiting less street gangd or thugs..

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  17. Why hasn't anyone assassinated Pena Nieto?

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    1. He is the boss of all bosse$

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  18. Somebody has to arm them, they ain't got anything to start with. Militarize something instead of "giving" up fam or friends. Fuck in gov.

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    1. The mexican government has all the weapons, all the billions of dollars, all the gorillas, the american sent death squads, don't forget the CIA had its landing strips to load cocaine and marihuana and weapons on the fields they used to "train the contras nicaragüenses" until someone informed on them...
      --Who is/was manuel buendia? And Kiki Camarena? Not for nothing they are still called "la compañia..."

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