Tuesday, February 23, 2016

Alfredo "Mochomo" Beltran Leyva Pleads Guilty in U.S Federal Court

Lucio R. for Borderland Beat

There will be no jury trial in the Alfredo Beltran Leyva case.  He filed with the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, a waiver of right to jury trial, and pleads guilty to trafficking cocaine and meth.  

Beltran Leyva, known by his moniker “El Mochomo”, was accused of being a kingpin, or leader of Beltran Leyva Organization (BLO), a charge he still contends is not factual. In court before Judge Richard Leon, he declared “I was a member, not a leader”.

In the hearing he did admit to being a part of BLO, and to trafficking drugs for 12 years, through the year of 2012.    This includes the years of 2008-2012, when he was incarcerated in a Mexican Prison.

Mochomo was extradited to the U.S. in November 2014.

The case against Mochomo was stacked with cooperative witnesses, 6 of whom are heavy narco hitters, Margarito Flores, El Rey Zambada, La Barbie Villareal Valdez, La Grande, Margarito Flores and a Colombian Juan Carlos “Chupeta” Ramirez.  There appeared to be little in substantive evidence against the defendant.  But, in a U.S. court, jurors would have little or no knowledge of the narco world and perhaps with an abundance of witnesses (11) testifying, getting an acquittal would have been too much a gamble.



"For decades, Alfredo Beltran Leyva helped to lead one of the world's most notorious drug cartels, causing widespread violence and disrupting lives," Attorney General Loretta Lynch said in a statement.

Full docket text:
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Richard J. Leon: Case called for a Status Conference, but not held. Plea Hearing as to ALFREDO BELTRAN LEYVA held on 2/23/2016. 

Oral Motion by the Government to Dismiss Count 1 solely as to the portion of the charge related to the Heroin and Marijuana was Heard and Granted.


Plea of Guilty entered by ALFREDO BELTRAN LEYVA as to Count 1. REFERRAL TO PROBATION OFFICE for Presentence Investigation. 

Sentencing scheduled for 6/6/2016 at 2:30 PM in Courtroom 18 before Judge Richard J. Leon. 

He faces a possible 10 to life sentence. (click on image to enlarge)


129 comments:

  1. I'm willing to bet he took a secret deal and in turn will be one of the main testifier against "el chapo" once he's extradited to the U.S..

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    1. I believe the same he's gonna end up ratting on Chapo

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    2. That is possible 534. What I don't get is what happened to Criminal Justice 101. Does it take a genius? Intro to Criminal Justice, emphasizes how a witness-especially a witness in relation to drugs-is not a reliable, hence valid source for conviction in any court. If there are a group of witnesses, the question arises of what will this group receive or accomplish for "hearsay?" Is this group of witnesses reliable and credible with the people, God, or both, especially when the laundry gets stacked? Just like lie detectors, witnesses are not sufficient for a conviction. If the courts have tape and/or video for a conviction, then whole other story. Yet, then the defense may surround whether it was legal to tape and/or video the person(s) in question. A guess is that most cases out of Mexico do not need tape and/or video with all the advertisement on the internet from the cartels.
      The United States' judicial system is selling more than just lemonade in these cases. This may not turn out to be a good strategy a decade or two from now.

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    3. If he took a deal we would've known by now

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    4. Maybe, if El Chapo ratted out El Mochomo to have son (Ivan Guzman) freed from prison, why not have El Mochomo do the same thing to El Chapo

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    5. Chapo this... Chapo that... El Chapo's name has not & was not mentioned... Chapo gets a bad rap frm mfs just postin dumb ass comments with no knowledge or lack there of... Just cnt keep the name El Chapo out their mouth or postings... JaJaJa

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    6. well it is his cousin.....

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  2. Smart move . That far north a convicting jury would be unforgiving .

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    1. smart move, not pussy move, pussy move is all the Sinaloa rats willing to give up 411 on anyone to save their pathetic dirty asses. no honor in Sinaloa cartel

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    2. Just like any other cartel ^^

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    3. "Pussy" when you are just cutting your loses short?
      Don't be a pendejo, there have been deals made and paid for...
      Pero cuando salga se las va a pagar todas juntas, I remember el mochomo had done his time in mexico and was about to be released, this is just to keep him away from epn and Genarco Garcia luna safe...with the full compliant help of the mighty US that has nothing to say to the real big narcos on the US.

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  4. Sometimes it's in your best interest to just plead out. - El Sol Perdido

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  5. Lucio.
    Good call on the jury.No doubt his legal team wondered on the same thing,all these informers with their deals under their arm would make a strong case that would blind almost any jury.Evidence or no,locked up since 08,why the apparent zeal with this guy?Cause he wouldnt co-operate?Some of these informers are worse than Leyva

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  6. I suspected he would make a deal. Everything just seemed weird about the case. I'm sure he will need to give up some of that $885,000,000 that the Beltran Brothers made and in exchange will receive 10-20 years.

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    1. These guys had more money then that

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    2. Sources? If he had that much, he would not have done so much prison time in MX. Just saying...

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    3. In the Arturo Beltran indictment before he died, the US was seeking forfeiture of $885,000,000. So I figure Alfredo might have some of that money left somewhere.

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  7. For all practical purposes his life is effectively over.

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    1. By the way..
      Good to see you " muchacha principal " telling it like it is..
      Be cool Chivis girl,stressin for no-one..

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    2. no it's not. Either he or his attorneys are very smart for pleading. It has been that pleading is way more effective in getting a desirable sentence.

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    3. He'll be out in his 50s

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  8. Little substantive evidence? With the accomplice witness rule, there has to be some independent evidence that corroborates the accomplice testimony. Otherwise, there, by law, is no case.

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    1. the case was based on cooperative witnesses. of course there was "evidence", but if you would examine the case as we have, you will see mochcomo was never mentioned in any of the twins testimony, or in an blo indictment prior to 2012.
      evidence was going to be items such as ledgers, created by narcos. the grand jury indictment is minimal. boiler plate stuff.

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    2. CHIVISSSSS

      Do you think he shoulda went to trial instea?

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    3. NO! But what I thought he should have done is ask for a bench trial instead of a jury trial. This after discussing with an atty friend. I think, and this is just based on what I know and I don't know all of course, I thought he had a good shot with a bench trial. A judge is far more sophisticated on the interworkings of Org. crime and would weigh evidence appropriately.

      that said, I am not saying this is a bad move. it just depends what the sentence will be.

      I think he was a scapegoat. they wanted his brother badly, but arturo was killed. Alfredo was sitting in prison, ripe for the picking.

      But clearly he was an afterthought. I am not saying he is an angel, just saying his is not a devil either. He was expected to lead blo, and challenge other cartels. Narcos loved the guy. I would say he was a lieutenant before his 2008 arrest, not a capo.

      Anyway it is over for him, except the time. He has to be tired of prison, already doing 8 years.

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    4. The corridos made Alfredo seem like a capo but In reality his brother arturo was the top gun till his death The throne was for Alfredo the youngest of the beltranes that's why war broke out he was the true prince of the federation

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    5. Chivis . Don't really know your personal stance on this but I say BREAK THEM , BREAK THEM ALL. There is no solution for this world wide drug epidemic but they cant give up the fight .

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    6. Chivis. I really thought he would end up taking a plea deal. Glad to know he will be spending time in prison. God bless innocents. Grazie BB for keeping us up to date.Peace.

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    7. my personal stance is that he broke the law and deserves some time. BUT I do not think the gov had enough evidence to convict for the crimes he was charged. AND I think Loretta Lynch wanted a notch in Obama's belt buckle and was willing to give deals for 6 vile narcos, of the six 3 were horrific killers. for me that is a price too great to pay.

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    8. he will get 30 on ADX. but once he star talking and his att. files 4 a rule 35 he be out in 15 that his only way out

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    9. Lol "Boiler plate stuff" I like that phrase.
      Aaah, but what does it mean?

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    10. boilerplate is a template of writing used repeatedly, nothing real specific more generalized so it may be used often.

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    11. Lol Chivis he deserves "some time." Mochomo was responsible for turning Sinaloa into a bloodbath too. You guys act like everything was Chapos fault. Thats not how it works, it takes 2 to tango.

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    12. Chapos people cleaning last remaining BLO leadership.

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    13. lol 8:36 tune up your comprehension-she is saying the 6 rats were too much of a price to pay for Mochomo.

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    14. Mochomo kept sinaloa clean of rats. What are you talking about 8:36?

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    15. Did someone get paid to give benfetis to those six? That the question some one should ask.

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    16. Chivis . It seems to me the horrific murderers were working for him . Seriously doubt he is less criminal . I he wasn't as harsh as them they would have took him over.
      Here is a quote (copy and pasted) from the article on the emerging cartels . "Alfredo Beltran Leyva Mocha (arrested in 2008), is one of its most idealized figures ... It has come to be considered one of the most ruthless organizations for their torture and killing methods, such as using scissors or ice picks, his fascination with calcination at enemies and using mass graves.
      Is he innocent ? Not of much . Could they prove much ? Maybe . If not so what . This is far better using these dirt bags against one another than not wanting testimony from them because they are bad . Chivis you sound like your picking favorites . These are hardened murdering criminals . Not just some guy that made a mistake . I understand the legal aspect of 'the only evidence is from dirtbags" . Maybe he could have gotten a acquittal based on that . So what ! Johnny down the street might get try heroin when he gets in high school a few years from now . Chance are if Johnny gets it and dies on it, it wouldnt have come from this dirt bag. And it might not even be available to him . There were never any heroin deaths before there was heroin . If it were up to me I would whipe it out through ANY means possible.

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    17. 10:18 LOL . So they were trading their testimony ? If he plea bargains , when will they testify ? The sentencing phase ? Shit they probably wouldn't have used them . When it come down to the line everything don't always end up like they say . They were willing to testify but the deal aint final until its final . I have seen willing witnesses that didn't get their "deal" because they decided they didn't need them . All things don't always turn out like they look like they may.
      Then again lets see how it play out .

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    18. That's like saying hermann goering broke the law and should do some time , but he didn't work in the death camps . Come on now . He knew the game all the way . He knew people around him and under him was doing everthing the did . I think public hanging isn't to much .I understand that if a junkie dies of overdose he has made a poor choice . I think under us law if just one dead junkie could be linked to this asholes dope he could be eligible for the death penalty . If I am wrong one of you scholars out there correct me . If he gets out of prison in this lifetime I think he got off light.

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    19. Dear 7:28
      I have strive to be fair across the board. And I have never blamed narcos for the mess in Mexico, they are culpable for their crimes, but it is the apathy of the 98% of the people who turn a blind eye thus allowing 2-3% of their population to control the country.

      And I will try this again.

      As you know we covered the Austin Tx Zetas trial. In the courtroom each day we provided a comprehensive insight into the case. What we saw was prosecutors being a little over zealous with at least two defendants, I thought two were not guilty, and not even close. One was found not guilty, the other was EXONERATED on appeal.

      In this case, mochomo should have a prison sentence, no doubt, and he himself pleaded to trafficking. as for the murders, that was in Mexico. he served his time in Mexico. remember?

      WHAT MY BEEF IS...the tax dollars wasted on this case. he was never even mentioned before 2012.

      IMO THE CASE COST US TOO MUCH. that is the beef. you talk about something you READ>?? lets talk about the murders we KNOW about. La Barbie. He is the author of execution on video. he is a brutal killer. no doubt. yet the gov gave him a deal to "talk" about mochomo. I don't believe one word out of the mouth of that piece of shit. He should get life for what we know he has done.

      and the colombian chupeta? he rivals edgar. murder for him is not enough, it must be torturous, and vile. I still don't know if his surgeon is still alive, but he killed bad and good people alike.

      yet our gov gave him a sweet deal to "talk" about mochomo. he never even mentioned mochomo prior to the extradition.

      then there is margarito flores. the flores twins gave up more information than I have even seen in a case. naming over 50 bad guys, dates and proof of events, recorded conversations, including those with chapo.

      and no where is mochomo listed. no where.

      and yet he was to testify about a guy who was so unimportant to him that he never once gave him up in cooperative testimony.

      think what you want, but for me, this was a case that cost me as a citizen way too much.

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    20. Chivis . I agree 100% on saving tax payers money . That's why I think its great to use these sorry low life drug trafficker to corner this SMF into pleading guilty. Its a big positive for the whole country . Be happy ! Is he guilty ? You bet! Will he get more time than some more cruel assholes . Maybe . Will he get as much as he earned . No way. Like Super Chicken always said "you knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred. He knew the perils when he chose the job . The guys handling Zeta money in Austin ? Maybe the government didn't prove the case on them. Do you really believe they knew nothing or had nothing to do with it ? Maybe . There has been money launder in every area of society. From small farms to big business . If I go to a trafficante and get a loan to put in a small business and pay him back on a payment program , knowing fully well before I go to him , what he does , where the money comes from , why he is letting me have it, am I guilty of anything ? I would be charged with money laundering weather they could prove it or not, hoping to get me to roll over on the money guy . How guilty am I ? Depends on how much they can prove I know . If they cant prove anything I walk . That doesnt mean I am innocent . What did they accomplish . We have to look at the ripples to see the big picture .
      How much did they get for the horses ? I know people that tried to buy .It didt turn out like we all expected . The government got big bucks (that is assessed by horse people I know).

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    21. Chivis as usual talks sense.
      Read up on some of the people who got deals.Its harder to get worse individuals than some of these.Leyva has been locked up since 08,i dont believe the Flores brothers even spoke to this guy yet they were going to testify against him?
      You would have thought they would have remembered "Mochomo"of BLO in their previous statements..
      Was it worth it ?

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    22. I am positive the two brothers had nothing to do with the zeta case. Not only did the appeals court agree, they did not order a new trial, they released and exonerated him. that is how woeful the case against them was.

      you have to see the details to "get the big picture" we were in the courtroom.

      You are missing the point, it is a waste of tax payers dollars to investigate 12 men for a decade, fight for extradition and give sweet deals. I don't think it is good business to give up brutal killers for one. It is my opinion, unclouded by emotion and knee jerk reaction. Until we have the most brutal of narcos receiving life sentences we will not fully use our judicial system to its fullest. You need to go back and read the coverage of the trial. One was a horse trainer. that is what he did, and low IQ, special needs. the other was acquitted outright, he is a home builder.

      AND AT 7:11 you are 100% correct, flores twins ratted out 54 people. Including BLO and Arturo Beltran Leyva. NO where is the name Alfredo BL.

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    23. I think the real waste of taxpayer dollars is fighting a so called war on drugs that does
      Nothing but raise street values of the substances and thereby cheapening the lives of everyone in the geographical areas affected, second it gives law enforcement the excuse to arm up like the military and snoop on everyone, and finally it ruins more lives through financial strain due to addiction than would be ruined through cheap and accessible addictions...
      Everyone sees junkies, and no one wants to end up that way.....the problem isn't the people in the bottom levels of society, the problem in my eyes is the damage done to the middle classes who use whatever they use "responsibly"....they just end up spending their kids college fund on it....
      I don't care about this or that case in the court system so much as I care about our courts having to deal with this at all.....you can go to Mexico and buy pharmaceuticals all day long and no one cares because drug companies donate lots of cash to the govt.....the whole thing is a sham and a racket....

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  9. La era de Chapito Isidro ya va comensar....Pura Gente Fina

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    1. Afirma compare y arriba Monterrey pura gente de la B

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    2. De mangueras pendejo a como tu estan llenos los panteones. Que tan fina va ser una persona que apoya a los lacraZ.

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    3. Lmao!! Finos mis caballos guey

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    4. "Manden camiones de guachos marinos con aparatos manden gente de la dea pa que vean que no le Saco traigo huevos para rato y al que brinke yo lo aplaco el valor se trae de herencia quiero morirme peleando " puro chapo Isidro puro Beltran Leyva

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  10. Why isn't he fighting this case? They have no evidence against him besides the testimony of other traffickers. Hopefully he doesnt get that much time. I believe in the bad guy to defy the rules and to fk the system . So fk all you high horse fks who disagree with my opinion. El Lp.

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    1. The testimonies were enough to have him locked up for a very long time

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    2. Yes but how creditable are these testimonies? You got to be kidding me. El mochomo lawyer is screwing him.

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  11. you dont need evidence in the federal court room.

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    1. Not true, but once the Feds have you in court, there will be a guilty plea. They don't often lose.

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  12. 10yrs to life, not bad at all..good behavior n we are looking at parole for sure.

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    1. No good time in Federal Prison. Hopefully this degenerate gets life in prison.

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    2. correction... There is good time in the feds you do 85% if you don't get in serious trouble. Inside its referred as "good time". Feds got rid of parole in 80's of early 90's something like that

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    3. 15 years minus 8 he did in mexico...I would plead guilty too,.and I have not done anything against the law...
      -by then epn will be gone, but not la güilota de su vieja or his family

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    4. I don't think you can do federal time in a foreign prison . I do know that if you have state and federal sentences to plea to make sure how they line it up . You can do a state sentence concurrent with fed if you are in a fed . Cant do fed time in the state. Have to finish state and move on to start fed.

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  13. Now watch and see how EVERY SINALOA IS A SNITCH!!!HE WILL THROW CHAPO UNDER THE BUS

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  14. Back in the 90s my good homie Tupak, RIP, told me the US needs to legalize dope or else things are going to get out of control.

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    1. They're already legalizing marijuana and things are still out of control so what did your so called friend Tupak mean?

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  15. Is señor de los cielos & Los Beltran Leyva related? I heard a rumor they are.

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    1. Los beltranuses kept the empire ACF going when el señor de los cielos was done and gone, they were all working together, then somebody said, na na na, Amao Carrillo juentes y el CDJ are not a BLO/CDS franchise, and all hell broke loose...

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    2. It was more "El Azul and Mayo" Los Beltranes acquired more of the government connections for laundering/logistical through "El Azul" As for the franchise, they are all from Sinaloa. I am from Chih, Chih, so I am not being biased, pero conozco gente que chambeaba y chambea para Las dos entidades. All I can say, it is not what it appears to be.

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  16. He's safe in prison, and can still run the show from prison...the way bodies are dropping, he figured he wouldn't be killed on the outside.

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  17. I know one thing he didn't snitch!!

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    1. @8:05 wait for it... wait for it...

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    2. Yeah....I'm still waiting...but what the sam hill is the damn answer...*sigh*

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  18. There was a guy here in my part of the world that got 120 years for 6 grams of Coke. A young man 20 years old that got 40 years for selling weed (at least that's what he said that he was selling). The affluenza knucklehead that killed 4 people and got probation. The people in Colorado that are using it daily. Mexicans killing each other for the same stuff as in Colorado..
    So Mochomo gets 10 years. I had a friend that passed away the other day and at one point was laundering money. Got arrested with 100K in cash at the house. Someone came with a piece of paper and told him "sign here". It mentioned 10 Grand only. He said, he hey it was 100K". The guy came back with the one that said the actual amount. He was told sign here... sensing something was wrong he said. What's the difference... "You don't want to know".

    Mochomo, was probably in the same boat. Sign here and off you go.

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  19. I'm ashamed of all the rats, against this dude. Sad to say those punks are Mexican. When your in the game flashing your money and flexing your power you feel like you are invinsible. You want to get into the game, do your time like a man. Don't take others down with you. Que verguenza.

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    1. "Que vergüenza" Dios mio, ni que te estuvieran viendo el cabús al aire libre pinchi rielero
      Society does not owe anything to any criminal, least of all silence or obedience, and they have no deals among them to not snitch...

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    2. This is about coming into a man's game. Your going to act like a tough narco, take that tough act to jail with you. By yourself. Are you a coward, and a rat?

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    3. Drug dealing is not a "man's game" so, I have passed it by, but I know one thing if I did there would be no puppet around to pee in the soup, until the man catch up with me, then sure, I will sing hasta que me callen a cachetadas, las perras de la carcel may call it whatever, I don't live for their opinions.

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    4. Por eso, su hermano el botas blancas don arturo beltran leyva se murio peleando como un Gallo fino, un jefe de verdad...para no pasar verguenza como este pendejo..todos los mas grande jefes se mueren peleando....chapo no es un jefe, es un payaso...y se va a pudrir en la carcel y lo van a vender como una puta sucia, todos Le van a poner el dedo...dale tiempo..

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    5. 12:21-Gotta love it!

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  20. Off topic. There is a manta signed by ctng and cjng anouncing that they took out cds and now chalenged Caf if they don't want to share the plaza with them in Tijuana

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    1. 8:18 Blah Blah Blah more like bs, last time I checked cds is deeply in tj.Just by them killing 2-3 changos they thing that they took out cds.

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    2. Miguel Comando better stop glorifying the Arellanos before he gets hit with a contract. The Arellano Felix family netted atleast 5 billion in that industry back in the 90s. They pretty much retired.

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  21. "Con una fija Mirada hombre de barba cerrado con un acento de orden asi le Habla a su plebada caballero y buen amigo Alfredo Beltran se llama "

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  22. 10 years!!! well this goes to show how much money And influence BLO really has. That's probably the lowest sentence, he must be forfeiting a good amount of cash.

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  23. Just my opinion I think they offer him to plead guilty for a light sentence but with the condition that he testifies against el chapo when he gets extradited bcuz the guys that they had to testified against mochomo won't do it against el chapo other that the flores borthers

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    1. If they would snitch against Mochomo theyd snitch against Chapo

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  24. I bet when Chapo goes to ADX he will try to roll just like he did with the DEA against AFO. If you cant do the time dont do the crime. Looks like Mochomo excepted his fate.

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  25. 8:18 sounds like mayos are done in Tijuana and ctng trying to take over they helped caf and now whant to take out caf interesting ?????

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    1. They all do that greedy motherf**kers!

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    2. It is norml, cana, when they don't pay their money to the rabble, the rabble has to find a way...

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  26. Viva los beltranes!!

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  27. Fuck all rats from CDS should have balls like this man has them!!

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    1. 1 witness was El Mayos' bro, 1 witness is Colombian, 2 witness's are twins who got dope frm CDS & BLO... So wht do u mean all the rats frm CDS?.. Dnt u mean rats frm all over... Rats are everywhere... Even in your family... Duh

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    2. True, many businesses have those that do not have loyalty. Most kids on this site lack common sense and logic.

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  28. Damn....I wonder if he'll get life

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    1. I don't think so. I have nothing to back this up, but he is a potential witness against Chapo. He would be a great one. I just don't know if he will, but he should.

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    2. Does his time done in Mex count toward his sentence as someone suggested?I wouldn't think so as it's a different country and possibly different crimes.What was he convicted for in Mexico?I'm thinking he didn't want to snitch but if he went to trial he might have to just to defend himself.Now those other 11 witness's that were testifying for reduced sentence;do they still get reduced sentences if they never testify in anyone's trial or only if they do?And do they get more time off for more trials testifying?Thanks.

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    3. Mochomo gonna be the biggest rata there is

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    4. lol le salio lo sinaloese .se doblo u en sus corridos dice qe no le teme ala muerte
      jajajaja pero si le tubo miedo a al sistema judicial dee usa.qe qisas no es peefecto pero es el van corriendo qienes buscan leyes qe los protejan de la violencia qe hay en mexico ojala le den vida

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    5. Out of all the BL brothers none have ratted till this day...I doubt it

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    6. I don't think it will count, but the time spent in prison fighting extradition will count.

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    7. chivis, will you please post the indictment against BLO? the one long standing and doesn't mention alfredo?

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  29. He waited until the Feds officially produced the rat list!
    Probably had a better deal before exposing the rats, however, he wanted the world to know the character of the rats.

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    1. More like he is a rather himself for he will receive a downward departure in the federal sentence based on his truthful debriefing (read here telling all he knows, some of which the feds already know and so to be able to gauge his truthfulness). Knowing that people close to him, he will see that there is no loyalty and so he will join the fray to get some freedom later on. The feds reward snitching:it is built in the law.

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    2. Lmaooo that's true.

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  30. 2:43 got a good point!!

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  31. Considering that Chapo ratted the guy out, it would make sense to take a deal so one would have a chance of payback. He has some chance (however slim) of being a free man one day but chapo will have zero chance of avoiding life behind bars when Mochomo lines up to testify.

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    1. He has a pretty big chance of getting out in his mid 50s

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  32. plead guilty for a better deal?

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  33. Probably will do 15 yrs .. comes out and retired. Just like the ones before him.

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  34. Esos son huevos. By doing this he prevented all the snitches from getting a deal to snitch in court. He showed he is a real boss. Lol

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    1. This would be a movie blockbuster

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    2. Yes, he is obviously playing on another level. He waited until every last rat declared themselves publicly before pleading guilty. He himself can testify against Chapo and still be beyond reproach since he was betrayed in a totally rat move.

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    3. The snitches and the rats have their deals IN anyway, al they have to do is be there ready whenever el patrón needs their essees...

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  35. He's going out like a real man not like other people!!!!

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  36. Beltranes will go down in history for some real gangsters CDS will go down as a bunch of rat snitch ass motherfuckers with no honor or respect!

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    1. The fact that Beltranes associated with Zetas tells you a lot as far as what their principles consist of...

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    2. Yeah it says that Beltranes are real mafiosos who would rather negotiate not start wars like the midget chapo and mess everything up. To believe all that nonsense that zetas are scum and chapo an angel is childish and shows you dont know the reality of this.

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    3. Beltranes worked fir chapo and created arm groups for war with other cartels so what are you talking about

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  37. Word is that he decided to plea guilty when his lawyer adviced him that El morronis was going to be on the witness list

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    1. Lol I knew it. El Morronis is a snitch from snitchaloa.

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    2. and don't forget P@RR@NDERO..

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  38. He plead out he will get 10 do 85% and be out to enjoy his millions. The only thing he was charged with in Mexico was money laundering and he did his time there like a man what's the difference here.

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  39. Chivis, what is your input on this.. In the revelance of their prime golden, who was more powerful, the Beltrán Leyva or Arellano Felix brothers?

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    1. My immediate thought is caf, but it depends, because if one is talking solely trafficking then I would say blo.

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  40. CDS is not dead you still have Caro,Zambadas,EL Lic,El Mini Li,Azul,and all the rest of families you don't know about and also Gente Nueva,Torres,to many last names and families in this game.

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