Sunday, January 10, 2016

"The Rolling Stone Sean Penn, El Chapo interview"


Posted by DD  material from Rolling Stone

As much as some people distrust any information coming from the Federal Government of Mexico, maybe the statements by AG Arley Gomez made about Chapo wanted to make movie about himself and had been in touch with  film makers might be true.  She said in her statement that  Police and the military successfully hunted down Guzman and his henchmen this week partly because he or his representatives contacted filmmakers about making an El Chapo movie of his life, 

 A secret visit with the most wanted man in the world
The author and then-fugitive El Chapo Guzmán, on October 2nd. The photo was taken at Penn' request for verification purposes.
Rolling Stone magazine published on Saturday, Jan. 9, a story written by Sean Penn about a secret meeting he had with El Chapo in October of last year.  

It took months of planning and secret meetings to arrange the interview with Guzman.  Penn described all that he went through to set up the meeting as a "clandestine horror show".  Burner phones, anonymous email accounts encrypting and mirroring messages was all new to him.  he described himself as so "technologically illiterate"  that he had never learned to use a laptop.

Penn explained his interest in meeting with and interviewing El Chapo stemmed from being drawn to explore what may be inconsistent with portrayals that our government and media brand upon their declared enemies.   

He went on to say that he was not particularly proud of keeping secrets that might be perceived as protecting criminals, but that he tried to avoid pre-judging El Chapo.  He didn't portray Guzman as a hero nor a monster and only wanted the interview to portray the truth.  Having seen videos and photos reflecting what the War on Drugs had wrought on the Mexican people, he was also aware of Chapo's reputation as a business man first and foremost and did not engage in kidnappings and murder unless he deemed it as necessary for his business interest.  Penn also knew that in agreeing to meet with him, "Chapo's trust could not be fucked with". 

After all the  whispering in conversations with his associates,  using code words, and the meetings in the dark corners of out of the way restaurants, all of which could have scenes from one of his movies, he finally made contact with a "well connected" individual who after hearing what Penn wanted to do and why he wanted to do it,  who set up a meeting in LA with one of the few people that Chapo trusted in the US.  



So the next day he flew to LA to meet with Kate del Castillo, one of the most famous actresses in Mexico.  She had been the star of one of the most popular novelas in Mexico, La Reina del Sur.  She had used Twitter to express her distrust of the Mexican government and in one of her Tweets she had said that in a decision as to who she would trust, the government or Chapo, she would choose Chapo.

As reported in Rolling Stone, In that Tweet she said;   
"Mr. Chapo, wouldn't it be cool that you started trafficking with love? With cures for diseases, with food for the homeless children, with alcohol for the retirement homes that don't let the elderly spend the rest of the days doing whatever the fuck they want. Imagine trafficking with corrupt politicians instead of women and children who end up as slaves. Why don't you burn all those whorehouses where women are worth less than a pack of cigarettes. Without offer, there's no demand. Come on, Don! You would be the hero of heroes. Let's traffic with love. You know how to. Life is a business and the only thing that changes is the merchandise. Don't you agree?"


Chapo, though almost illiterate, became aware of the tweet and one of his lawyers contacted Ms. Costillo to express Chapo's appreciation of her tweet.

Two years later, after Chapo was imprisoned in Altiplano the second time, he was besieged by Hollywood wanting to make a movie about his life.  Chapo did not trust the promoters from Hollywood and was not interested in them making a movie about him.  But it did give him the idea to make his own movie about himself.  He had the same lawyer get in contact with Costillo again to discuss it.  

That began a more or less regular line of communication in the form of handwritten letters between Costillo and the imprisoned drug lord.  It was concluded that it was not feasible to do the movie due to the restricted access they would have to Chapo in prison.

After Chapo's escape from prison through the infamous tunnel, it became a whole new ballgame.  


Penn had been aware of Chapo's interest in making a movie and he followed the news closely about Chapo's escape.  In a meeting with a friend and sometimes associate in Paris they discussed Chapo's escape and his friend, Espinoza, mentioned that one of his friends, Kate del Costillo had an ongoing long distance relationship with Chapo and that Chapo seemingly  trusted her.

With this information in hand Penn contacted Rolling Stone about doing the interview and a story for Rolling Stone.  The editor gave him the assignment.  

After meeting with Costillo and one of Chapo's people in LA, Chapo agreed to meet with Penn.  That is when the real journey began.  A frightful and harrowing trip that started at 7AM in LA and ended at 9PM on a little knoll near the top of a mountain.  The journey included a chartered jet from LA to a city in Central Mexico.  From there the travel for an hour and a half in a SUV at speeds up to 100MPH to a dirt airfield. He notes that the driver is wearing a wrist watch that may have "had more value than the money housed in central banks of most nation states.   (Later Penn discovers the driver is one of Chapo's sons).  

From the dirt airfield they endure a low level bumpy flight to another dirt strip equipped with  ground radar blocking jamming device.  After a 2 hour flight they land at another dirt strip at sea level.  From there they board another SUV for a several hour trip up the mountains, including passing through a military checkpoint that waived them through after seeing who was driving the SUV (Chapo's son).  

Arriving at the compound on top of the mountain, El Chapo himself appeared and hugged Kate who he was finally getting to meet in person after all their long distance relationship and extended a cordial welcome to Penn and his companions.  After which they had a relaxed dinner catered by some neighboring women.  There were a variety of dishes served, including carne asada, which Penn said he passed on because of his recollection of cartels calling victims who they incinerated or boiled as carne asada.

After spending seven hours with Chapo during dinner and drinks afterward,  Penn gained some insight and impressions of Chapo.  During the seven hour sit-down with Chapo, he said Chapo had a smile on his face nearly the whole time.  Penn said Chapo had a indisputable charisma. Chapo seemed humble and fascinated that Penn wanted to do a story about him for a national publication.  He asked Penn at one point  if people in the United States knew about him.  Penn told him that the night before he left for Mexico there was a TV special  aired entitled "Chasing el Chapo".  Chapo chuckled.
For the past two decades, El Chapo has led the most influential and profitable drug syndicate in the world. USDOJ
Chapo told Penn "I don't want to portrayed as a nun".   He went on to say in an unapologetic, but not braggadocios  manner ""I supply more heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and marijuana than anybody else in the world. I have a fleet of submarines, airplanes, trucks and boats."  (quotes from Rolling Stone article)

Before they all retired to the bungalows, Penn asked Chapo if he could stay over in the morning and have 2 days to interview him.  Chapo responded that they had just met and if Penn would return in 8 days, they would conduct the interview.  Presumably Chapo wanted time to do some background checks on Penn rather than just relying on his trust of Kate.  

After 2 hours sleep the group was awakened and told there was a major storm approaching and if they did not leave immediately they would not be able to maneuver  the dirt roads going down the mountain and that now there were many military checkpoints now on the road.  Fortunately the downpour had caused all the soldiers manning the checkpoints to seek shelter and the group made their way down without being stopped.   Penn and party all went home (without the recorded interview).  

Unbeknownst to Penn and the public was that when the rain stopped the Marines initiated a major operation in the area, raiding and searching and locking down 13 towns and ranch properties.   It is still unkown how many were killed or forced to abandon their homes.  . The media reported days later that one of Chapo's crew had a cell phone which the feds were able to track as Chapo and crew left the mountain.  

Over the next several days several confrontations with the military and police occurred, but the outcome of the mayhem was only a "nearly successful raid"  in which the govt. claimed Chapo suffered an injury to his leg and face.  In a latter message exchange with Kate Costillo Chapo said  in response to a question by Kate, ""Not like they said. I only hurt my leg a little bit."

Though they were unable to re-establish contact after that Penn returned to the airport on the 8th day as he said he would, but no one contacted him there.  

Penn submitted the questions and as day after day passed and there was no video Penn pestered Kate relentlessly asking about it.  

Then an encrypted message came from Kate, "Got it",, followed by ".you pushy motherfucker."  "Press play"  (quotes from Rolling Stone") 

Penn said that though the person reading the questions soft pedaled some of them and omitted others, the questions were mostly there.  The question and answers and the video are presented below.  



How was your childhood?
I remember from the time I was six until now, my parents, a very humble family, very poor, I remember how my mom made bread to support the family. I would sell it, I sold oranges, I sold soft drinks, I sold candy. My mom, she was a hard worker, she worked a lot. We grew corn, beans. I took care of my grandmother's cattle and chopped wood.

And how did you get involved in the drug business?
Well, from the time I was 15 and after, where I come from, which is the municipality of Badiraguato, I was raised in a ranch named La Tuna, in that area, and up until today, there are no job opportunities. The only way to have money to buy food, to survive, is to grow poppy, marijuana, and at that age, I began to grow it, to cultivate it and to sell it. That is what I can tell you.

How did you leave there? How did it all expand?
From there, from my ranch, I started to leave at 18 and went to Culiacan, then after to Guadalajara, but never without visiting my ranch, even up until today, because my mom, thanks to God, is still alive, out there in our ranch, which is La Tuna, and so, that is how things have been. 

How has your family life changed from then to now?
Very good – my children, my brothers, my nephews. We all get along well, very normal. Very good. 

And now that you are free, how has it affected you?
Well, as for being free – happy, because freedom is really nice, and pressure, well, for me it's normal, because I've had to be careful for a few years now in certain cities, and, no, I don't feel anything that hurts my health or my mind. I feel good. 

Is it true what they say that drugs destroy humanity and bring harm?
Well, it's a reality that drugs destroy. Unfortunately, as I said, where I grew up there was no other way and there still isn't a way to survive, no way to work in our economy to be able to make a living. 

Do you think it is true you are responsible for the high level of drug addiction in the world?
No, that is false, because the day I don't exist, it's not going to decrease in any way at all. Drug trafficking? That's false. 

Did your drug business grow and expand when you were in jail?
From what I can tell, and what I know, everything is the same. Nothing has decreased. Nothing has increased. 

What about the violence attached to this type of activity?
In part, it is because already some people already grow up with problems, and there is some envy and they have information against someone else. That is what creates violence.

Do you consider yourself a violent person?
No, sir.

Are you prone to violence, or do you use it as a last resort?
Look, all I do is defend myself, nothing more. But do I start trouble? Never. 

What is your opinion about the situation in Mexico, what is the outlook for Mexico?
Well, drug trafficking is already part of a culture that originated from the ancestors. And not only in Mexico. This is worldwide. 

Do you consider your activity, your organization, a cartel?
No, sir, not at all. Because people who dedicate their lives to this activity do not depend on me.

How has this business evolved from the time you started up until today?
Big difference. Today there are lots of drugs, and back then, the only ones we knew were marijuana and poppy. 

What is the difference in people now compared to back then?
Big difference, because now, day after day, villages are getting bigger, and there's more of us, and lots of different ways of thinking. 

What is the outlook for the business? Do you think it will disappear? Will it grow instead?
No, it will not end because as time goes by, we are more people, and this will never end. 

Do you think terrorism activities in the Middle East will, in any way, impact the future of drug trafficking?
No, sir. It doesn't make a difference at all. 

You saw how the final days of Escobar were. How do you see your final days with respect to this business?
I know one day I will die. I hope it's of natural causes. 

The U.S. government thinks that the Mexican government does not want to arrest you. What they want to do is to kill you. What do you think?
No, I think that if they find me, they'll arrest me, of course. 

With respect to your activities, what do you think the impact on Mexico is? Do you think there is a substantial impact?
Not at all. Not at all. 

Why?
Because drug trafficking does not depend on just one person. It depends on a lot of people. 

What is your opinion about who is to blame here, those who sell drugs, or the people who use drugs and create a demand for them? What is the relationship between production, sale and consumption?
If there was no consumption, there would be no sales. It is true that consumption, day after day, becomes bigger and bigger. So it sells and sells. 

We hear avocado is good for you, lime is good for you, guanabana is good for you. But we never hear anyone doing any publicity with respect to drugs. Have you done anything to induce the public to consume more drugs?
Not at all. That attracts attention. People, in a way, want to know how it feels or how it tastes. And then the addiction gets bigger. 

Do you have any dreams? Do you dream?
Whatever is normal. But dreaming daily? No. 

But you must have some dreams, some hopes for your life?
I want to live with my family the days God gives me.

If you could change the world, would you?
For me, the way things are, I'm happy. 

How is your relationship with your mom?
My relationship? Perfect. Very well. 

Is it one of respect?
Yes, sir, respect, affection and love. 

How do you see the future for your sons and daughters?
Very well. They get along right. The family is tight.

How about your life? How has your life changed, how have you lived it since you escaped?
Lots of happiness – because of my freedom. 

Did you ever use drugs?
No, sir. Many years ago, yes, I did try them. But an addict? No. 

How long ago?
I haven't done any drugs in the last 20 years. 

Did it not worry you that you might be putting your family at risk with your escape?
Yes, sir.

For your recent escape, did you pursue your freedom at any cost, at the expense of anybody?
I never thought of hurting anyone. All I did was ask God, and things worked out. Everything was perfect. I am here, thank God. 

The two times you escaped, it is worth mentioning, there was no violence.
With me, it did not come to that. In other situations, what's been seen, things occur differently, but here, we did not use any violence.

Bearing in mind what has been written about you, what one can see on TV, things are said about you in Mexico, what kind of message would you like to convey to the people of Mexico?
Well, I can say it's normal that people have mixed feelings because some people know me and others don't. That is the reason I say it is normal. Because those who do not know me can have their doubts about saying if, in this case, I'm a good person or not. 

If I ask you to define yourself as a person, if I ask you to pretend you are not Joaquín, instead you are the person who knows him better than anybody else in the world, how would you define yourself?
Well, if I knew him – with respect, and from my point of view, it's a person who's not looking for problems in any way. In any way. 

105 comments:

  1. Didn't want to pre-judge the convicted drug kingpin? So the courts were wrong? He didn't harm innocents Penn?

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    1. They should give Sean Penn the reward money for tipping the DEA in that video, do sense Set Up?

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  2. Unfortunately for Chapo(or fortunately for some of his peers) he always seems to be the center of attention. Hes definitely an interesting person, but I dont think hes the dictator of narcotrafico as hes portrayed...

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    1. Yeah your definitely right. There has always been a story about El Chapo in the news, especially since his escape. I guess the government couldn't take it any more. Plaza bosses and lieutenants have always had operational freedom. That is why Chapo wasn't controlling all the actions of his people.

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  3. Has anybody else noticed that his voice is exactly the same as a video that came out years ago, interagating a tied up man?

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    1. Interesting you should find the link and post it

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    2. 7:29pm It's on YouTube (can't link it from my gizmo). It pretty much confirms that older video is authentic but it would be interesting if Chapo could be asked about that video.

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    3. maybe bc it is him...duuhhh

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    4. 1:07pm Can you elaborate? The voices are the same therefore, according to you, MAYBE it's not him. Huh?

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    5. 1:07pm Sorry, I misread you. Yeah, it is him but back then when the video came out many here ran off crazy with there "analyzing" saying it wasn't him when it was aobvious it is.

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  4. Chapo should not be extradited. His story is a simple and normal story with tragic consequences for many. Do not forget, during WW II the U.S. encouraged heroin production for medical purposes. Are the pharmaceutical companies that crank out oxycontin cartels? In my humble opinion, he is not a monster. The monster is we.

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    1. Lmao!!! "We" lolololol

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    2. Your point? Glad it made you laugh...as it was intended.

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    3. I think your basically right. I wouldn't say that those who buy the drugs are fully responsible but they play a big part. The government policies that keep people in poverty are the main reason that drug trafficking is so big in Mexico.

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    4. Not heroin,morphine.big difference.the greedy farmers didn't stop growing poppy.the founder of Ley super market was one of them.

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    5. He won't be extracted, he knows to much would bring down to many people in Mex government. He will be let go after the elections.

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    6. "We" are the monsters. If it was not for all of us here in the USA buying drugs, there would be no Chapo. There is enough blood to go around for everyone's hands.

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    7. No you stupid mother fuckers. This greedy piece of shit started multiple wars and ordered thousands of murders. Thousands of innocent women and kids died on his behalf. He has an interview with Penn a drug user no doubt . And now suddenly he was a good guy. No people.

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    8. The people who should be arrested are the owners of major pharmaceutical companies they are the real cause of America's drug epidemic

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    9. Many may feel that justice has been done by making Chapo the human piñata. This tragedy of growing proportions will continue until we commit resources for education and prevention comparable to the Merida Plan. Trail'em; nail'em; and jail'em may appeal to our sense of outrage, but it is clearly only one part of a better "solution."

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    10. 12:17am yea buddy, chapo is completely innocent, he's such an angel.

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    11. The monsters create the demand, because of their greed which is lust for money, if you believe in the "mea culpas" they believe in "miarse" on you, (miarse=to pee).
      --By the mid 80s "THEY" were training the pushers of the future, pushing kool-aid powders in junior high and on to high life, instead of high school, all if it behind their parents back...
      --the monsters are "us"? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

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    12. Don't get your knickers in a knot. I do not read anyone saying that Chapo is a "good guy" or "angel." What I read most posters as saying is that there are many victims and many perpetrators in this war and to vilify one jeffe is moronic and simplistic. People realize that the causes are multi-factorial and we need to climb back down off the pink cloud that suddenly appeared when Chapo was apprehended.

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    13. "the pink cloud that suddenly appeared when Chapo was apprehended"... LMAO

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    14. 3:24pm I also didn't read anyone accusing another poster of saying Chapo is an angel or good guy. What I did read, and responded to, is that the poster @5:11pm thinks Chapo's history is "simple" and "normal" and that he is no monster but "we", you and I, are. Seriously? So he's an angel and is getting a bad rap because you and I are the real monsters. You're deffending that line of reasoning??

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    15. He will be extradited,the U.S. will get his money and since they will not be able to prove the charges, there will be no conviction. He will be returned to Mexico and serve his time there or escape again.

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  5. Christian Lopez PalafoxJanuary 10, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Drug comsumption and drug trafficking will never be eradicated. Do like Escobar and cut off the snake and pass the gravy train to another country, I hear Honduras is a good candidate

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    1. @522 Mexico will never let the industry go they have evrything thats required especially by being next to the us

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  6. No question about it...anyone who knows him believes, on return, Penn would be wired and his plans were to be in on the capture...become the hero of the moment...make the movie as the swashbuckling action figure he believes he is. As it happens, he brought Guzman down with his own unsecured cell phone prematurely, and is probably livid after spending a year plotting his next movie.

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    1. No no no no no. You've deluded. Penn had nothing to do with his capture. It took another 3 months to get Chapo. Something that wasn't really talked about is that the mexican navy issued a statement just before they announced they caught el chapo saying that Cholo Ivan got away. No mention if el chapo. They weren't even after him. It was pure luck that they found him a while later in a stolen car with cholo ivan.

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    2. 12:21am the places Chapo frequented were under surveillance for months and even if at that particular time Chapo was not the target it doesn't mean they were never looking for him.

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  7. Man what a way to go out....seeking others approval got him caught

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  8. Chapo might be the world's largest supplier of illegal narcota; however, the most powerful drug lords are the ones that roam the halls of power. Esos son intocables. Those that purchase their product and move their weight throughout the territory of a superpower while utilizing gov't agencies to aid and abett them in their organized criminal activity. Those are the real Jefes de
    Jefes. Not Chapo. The 40's and their minions laid the foundations of the modern cartels and
    organized crime, and nobody is putting them away. They even branched out into other industries, oil, defense, stocks, banking, water, etc, while enjoying protection from prosecution. Chapo and the other drug lords just do the dirty work for them. - alias Max Aragon

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    1. The branching out is not entirely true since that has been going on well before the zetas came on the scene.

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    2. you talking about z 40? he is locked up no? and zeta was just a bunch of body guards to CDG. they no foundation layers you have to go far back for foundation layers like the lord of the sky's or even further

      ~~~el swankador~~~ aka ~~~ el spaceio~~~

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    3. The 40's are presidents, they ain't dead presidents, they is ghwb for 12 years, bjc for 8 years, gwb for 8 years, & bho 7yr

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  9. Wow, unbelievable story and a perfect storm of events for penn to get to chapo. I don't think penn and castillo were the cause of his arrest though, the Mexican gov got a sniff of the story and thought it would be embarrassing that a movie star had the ability to find el chapo

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    1. 8:09
      No he's right.

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    2. they were the cause they wanted the reward $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    3. they want the reward $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    4. 12:23pm No, BB has a story up that proves him wrong.

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    5. Two film documentary makers found him in early 2014. Druglord: the legend of shorty. It shows exactly how they were able to find him.

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  10. Maybe el morronis also helped broker the meeting?

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    1. Yeah it was his phone that they traced in October when they almost caught him. Dumbass forgot to turn the phone off. He ended up one of the 5 dead in the Chapo shootout.

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    2. Some people here on BB just dont get it, the Mex gov knew his location many times, even before 2014, but they just cant ask for an interview like Penn did.

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    3. 12:25am turning your phone off does not help one bit, it remains "on" giving out a signal. You have to turn it off and take the battery out. Dumbass.

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  11. I guess itsvsafe to say chapo was a fan.of mystic river lol

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  12. So, Chapo never starts trouble? hahahahahahahahahahaha, this guy is full of crap, killing a Carrillo, getting inside Tijuana without permission, trying to take Nuevo Laredo for him, snitching on everyone he could, and he never looks for trouble? hahahaha, You are free to believe what you want, but anything that comes out of Chapo´s mouth has to be doubted big time, the guy´s a crook just like everyother capo out there, they are criminals and would never even blink to kill your mom if that got them a few more minutes out of jail.

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    1. I thought exactly the same as you when asked the question about causing trouble:the plazas at TJ and all the bloodshed and Juarez but what did you expect him to say?

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    2. True. Most criminals are in denial about the pain and suffering they cause and it looks El Chapo is no different.

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    3. So what comes out of your mouth is the real truth.???? So no matter what or who says anything iys only what you say right???

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    4. Your correct Chapo is a liar. So his biggest mistake was being a drug lord instead of a politician. Because 8 would trust a man like Chapo more than I would trust any politicians

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    5. Hey, some of you need to get down of Chapo´s coke nuts! Like it or not the guy is a crook, you dont like what I wrote? fine with me, but the fact remains, chapo is a crook and nobody can deny that. Oh, and politicians are crooks too, but blaming only them is stupid, chapo is responsible for thousands of deaths because of his greed.

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    6. Your wrong. I don't think you understand the situation back then. Tijuana had been attacking Chapo for years. When Chapo went into Tijuana so did CDG and Carillo Fuentes because of the heat AFO had on them. Carillo Fuentes (vicente) was always regarded as a hot head and El Azul and El Mayo were the ones who started that whole thing. Don't forget that El Mayo and El Azul both worked closer with Carillo Fuentes then Chapo back in the day. Chapo attacked CDG for no good reason though. So that was when he attacked unprovoked.

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    7. Have people forgot about this article in Borderland Beat. He is a terror to innocent people and has no conscience. He is nothing but trouble and to many innocent people. He has been hell on earth in Mexico and he spreads his hell around the world in the form of drugs and other forms of illicit business. .

      Chapo was not above kidnapping and killing migrants

      http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/03/chapo-was-not-above-kidnapping-and.html

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    8. 6:21 ...AND WHO GAVE THE CARRILLO FUENTES OR THE AFOs or any organization exclusive rights to their "franchises" pablo acosta, or rafael aguilar guajardo? Or pedro aviles or el güero palma? Or juan N Guerra or juan garcia abrego? Or manlio fabio beltrones, manuel cavazos lerma carlos salinas de gortari, Tomas yarrington, santo trafficante or the US presidential family crime cartel, "clinton?
      --just who is giving away the "franchises"?
      --manuel noriega had one, Otto Perez molina, and the barrientos family of bolivia and hugo banzer another, way before el chapo learned to count spare change, in pesos...
      --mitt, never handled any drugs, not even the money,.just deposit slips...and his commissions, all over the caribbean. And panama, the US, switzerland...blessing the money with his magical religious powders...
      --let's get to the bottom of the shit on the bottom of the shit barrel, there is all the gold there...

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  13. Penn's FBI file grows by the decade, his gifts and work are admirable, Miss Del Castillo is engaging, easily liked, but the Rolling Stone piece left me thinking, "Sean, lad, y'a didn't say a dam thing." Nice travelogue, though. As a member of the Fifth Estate, Penn's protected constitutionally from prosecution for his Chapo story.
    The only time Penn and Espinosa meet Guzman with Del Castillo, Penn's lack of Spanish doesn't prevent the guests from enjoying their host's hospitality, sharing food and tequila before their departure in the wee hours. They are unable to meet Chapo, again, for the promised interview. The Chapo video makes it to Del Castillo, then, Penn. Next thing you know, Guzman is recaptured. I don't believe Del Castillo or Penn are responsible for the narco's apprehension, but it does make for great copy. Chapo was slated to get grabbed,anyway. This time around, it does seem like he's going to be extradited to the States :-)

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    1. I could hear Penn right now trying to use his Spanish at the meeting. "Donde esta el cuarto del bano"...

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  14. @1/10/16-5:35pm
    You are on the right path.

    Chapo is wanted so they take his money away from him so these official narcos spend some and invest the remaining on other projects.

    They have another one replace Chapo by now.

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  15. Chapo didn't get caught when penn met him..they met in oct...read people..

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    1. If, you read RS, Penn's "interview" is published within 24 hours of Guzman's "recapture." Much of the US and Mexican media are busy casting aspersions Del Castillo's and Penn's way as their being the cause for Chapo's getting caught, which is nonsense.

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    2. I agree. There is no nexius between the interview and the capture....from what I know. The interview was the most pitiful, softball interview that I have heard in a long while. Maybe a middle school journaliam class. Allowing Chapo to review and approve the final copy violates all journalistic ethics. Not sure who had the bigger ego for this event.

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    3. 9:39, as far as the ego circus goes, it's a tough call! Penn is one fabulous actor, that's the craft he knows and should stick to--his ego is legendary, as hard to put up with as Bono's is. The "interview" isn't honest work, the article reads like a first draft on a half baked idea. Del Castillo is a noted prima dona,too. I remain unconvinced of the Hollywood/narconovela stars' role in Guzman's recapture. Still have my doubts they even met Shorty in person... Salud!

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  16. CHAPO owns the Mexican OIL INDUSTRY why do you think he told them to switch into the oil business !!!!!drigs are starting to be a thing of that past unless you hitting the pookie

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  17. Chapo said he doesn't go looking for trouble? Really?? Isn't this the same guy that told the twins they should blow up a building in the US when the twins wore wiretaps on them in the meeting with Mayo and his son.

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    1. No that was Zambadas son..... Chapo just went along

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    2. Christian Lopez PalafoxJanuary 10, 2016 at 8:17 PM

      He also said he killed 3000 people and Tuta was a scumbag

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    3. Hey watch what you say about tuta! Cds+ct+cdg:carteles unidos united cartel

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    4. 9:17
      That wasn't actually a real thing. Just a rumour. After he was caught he told the judge he was just a farmer so it makes no sense that he would admit to anything back then. Besides Tuta and Chapo were apparently buddies in prison so it makes no sense.

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    5. Not in this interview, Christian. That was established as a misquote from Chapo's penultimate arrest.

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  18. Dejen de darle fama a ese criminal y a Kate del Castillo cuando lo trasladen a EUA verán de Ke está hecho

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    1. Lol I think you stumbled across BB by accident. See here there are a lot of theories but none that stupid.

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    2. 9:25, Wrong, dude. It's obvious you know nothing about how smoke and mirrors are played.

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    3. I think 9:25 is saying Penn is as good as dead. That he will have a price on his head. If that's true then Penn isn't safe, even in LA.

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    4. "To Live And Die In L.A." ..great cocaine movie, cool song, crappy book. I am almost as sick of Sean Penn in the headlines as I am of the name "el Chapo."

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  20. Sean Penn should be happy he got an interview being he hasn't done crap in a long time. The most significant thing he has done was marry Madonna. Oh great! If the US is so bent on getting Chapo. Both Penn and Miss Thing needs to be charged with something for even having contact and trying to hide that fact.

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  21. El Sr Chapo Guzman Sigue Libre!

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  22. To all Mex. N U. S... Y'all think what da gov. Wants u to think with all this B. S. n publicity n movies etc.. But at least I KNOW.. THATS NOT EL CHAPO.. Its da same actor as in 2nd escape... True kingpin.. HE LAUGHING N HE'S RIGHT ONCE AGAIN.. YOU WILL DIE OF NATURAL CAUSES n Not in prison.. He Retired.. N enjoying life..

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  23. Seems like a lot of travel and work for a boring interview.

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    1. It was a set up n Sean Penn was the middle man. Reward Sean Penn if the video helped catch Chapo.

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    2. I agree. What a waste of time for a worthless interview. The sellable story is not Chapo's bland predictable answers to bland predictable questions its about Penn's heroic and dangerous effort to interview a misunderstood man.

      Typical Hollywood garbage.

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  24. i've wondered the same. have they hired security personnel?

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    1. Its ovious they got a pass and they will be ok

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  25. Or wil be, I can only imagine there is a price on his head. Then collecting the bounty will be tricky.💵

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  26. How can anyone in such a position agree to shake the hand of a guy who's organisation made so many people suffer, who wasted so much official money to try to track him down due to his enterprise, money that could have been spent on sick children or the frail or old or producing food or researching cancer??? Sean Penn you are a whore. I dont care if you want to make a good movie about El Chapo. You dont need to insult all the families of his groups many victims nor the under-privileged in MX who never got help cause the 10's of millions was spent chasing Chapo. Shame on you Sean...you are truly sick in the head. You lost all perspective on life. If Chapos thugs killed your mom and dad would you go and meet him? No...but ok to do so if others' relatives were snubbed out by them. What a vain, thoughtless tool you are. Never again I watch a movie of yours. Never.

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    1. Did you read that article? It explains why he shook his hand.

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  27. That man is pretty cool. At least, i think so. We put so much stigma on drug trafficking that we don't realize 5hat that our government commits more crime

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  28. Chopo is right, I choose to be an addict. I would buy drugs from who ever would sell them to me. Not Drug dealers fault, if u use its your fault. Don't blame Mexico. Chapo would not be in business if Americans did not use. By the way I am a American " User"

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  29. Use Keep using make Chapo Rich

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  30. El Chapo is just stupid if he thought he could meet with celebrities about making a movie and no one would find out. Or, he knows the Government of Mexico isn't going to extradite him to the US.

    As smart as some of these drug lords are, they are just as stupid.

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  31. Dejense de mama das el senor guzman ya sabe cuando salirse de la carcel y eso es mero cuando lo van a extraditar. Cada vez que lo han agarrado y encerrado corria el mismo riesgo de extradition no es differente ahora es igual pero de todos modos el sabe como haserle.

    Si llegara a la cituacion de que si lo extraditan entonces el senor guzman jugaria su plan B lo cual seria comprar al verdadero govierno corrupto de US y saldria en unos cuantos anos talves 10 maximo pagandoles a todo mundo dea la cia los jueces y a quien mas quisiera dinero.

    Ya no se quiebren la cabeza pensando que va pasar jajajajaa dado a la cantidad de dinero que tiene el senor sabe que siempre hay una solucion a todo menos a la muerte.

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  32. It's official.....Sean Penn is now head of the Sinaloa Cartel.

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    1. 8:31 AM! That just made reading the Penn interview worth it! Best comment in 2016. Chapo's replacement, "el Peno.."

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  33. Sean Penn snitched.

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  34. Video footage of the raid has been released. You don't see any of El Chapo's men in the footage, but you do see one of the Marines injured on the ground.

    Univision has the footage here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gYDkMhq9ns

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  35. So it was not the mexican army, nor the law enforcement agencies, nor the mexican intelligence community, Y menos por el presidente! What finally cause the downfall of el Chapo was his own ego.

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  36. Well,

    I wonder if Chaco was placed in the same cell in Altiplano, he occcupied several months ago:)

    What happened with his tunnel ? Is it still exist ?

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    1. 10:48 pos a güevo güey, and there are more tunnels than prisons all over mexico, many of them are not even one inch below ground, like in Durango/Torreon resort,

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    2. 10:48, his old cell and the tunnel are currently booked for movie shoots and music videos, so Guzman and his personal security are over at the Radisson.

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  37. Real talk what a waste of an interview chapo is boring Sean penn you got all the heat and go to all that trouble for that boring ass lame interview!

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  38. Seriously what's really going on with mireles cuz the chapo news is old news

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  39. The Sicarios are on the way Sean Penn enjoy !

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