Wednesday, November 4, 2015

General Gurrola: There Are No Cartels in Michoacán; There Is Organized Crime


General Gurrola


By: Rodrigo Caballero | Translated by Valor for Borderland Beat

In Michoacán, there aren’t any drug cartels, but rather organized crime, assured the Coordinator of the Federal Forces in Michoacán, Felipe Gurrola Ramírez, while at the same time considering the word “cartel” as being relative.

During an interview, General Gurrola said that security forces in Michoacán “are migrating” to pay more attention to ordinary crimes in larger cities of the state, because he considers that the Caballeros Templarios are “dismantled.”

According to figures given by the special command, at this moment, there are 1,000 members of the Military Police patrolling the state of Michoacán of which 120 are concentrated in the city of Morelia.

Felipe Gurrola said that this deployment is independent of the thousands of soldiers that the Secretariat of National Defense (SEDENA) has installed in the state, and will also only be there for a limited time until the installation of the State Police has been completed.

On the other hand, General Gurrola ensures that the Michoacán Coordination Group will have “zero tolerance” for crimes committed by security forces, such as: the abuse of authority, negligence, or torture.

Because of this, Gurrola said “I call upon the citizens, should they be subjected to abuse of any kind of an authority, to denounce it so that corresponding sanctions are imposed.”

Source: Michoacán 3.0

68 comments:

  1. WTF
    Like saying water and H20 are different

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    1. The general is right and there have arguably been only 3 or 4 drug cartels in Mexico over past 20 years - Guadalajara, Golfo, and Sinaloa. A cartel is an entity, group of entities, person etc that has the power to control the price of a commodity by controlling the supply available to the buy side market. Examples of cartels are Dole - bananas, De Beers - diamonds, Federal Reserve of the United States- US dollars as well as values of most world currencies, US Food and Drug Administration - largest drug cartel in the world, OPEC - crude oil during the 1970s through mid2000s, US Environmental Protection Agency - price of gasoline by prohibiting new gasoline refineries, Pemex - price of gas and oil based manufacturing in Mexico, CFE - electricity in Mexico, Carlos Slim - cable tv, phone service and Internet in Mexico until about 5 years ago, Mexican Army - legally purchased guns and ammunition in Mexico.

      Cartel in no way is synonymous with crime, but it's synonymous with a group, person, or organization working collectively to control or materially influence price of a commodity; rather legal or not. The Medillin "cartel" was not a pure cartel because the Cali "Cartel", Sun "Cartel" FARC, Shining Path, and thousands of other small groups in coca growing regions of Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Columbia collectively impacted supply and price of cocaina on the world market.

      Point is the criminal groups of Mexico with the exception of one or two are simply organized crime without the wherewithal to materially impact price of the contraband they specialize in.

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    2. put the pipe down and get out and get fresh air

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    3. AS OF july 2015 the united states identifies mexico as having 10 major cartels. and a couple dozen subgroups or cells

      mexico says it is more, in the 40s

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    4. 3:38 ok Mr. Expert, so you are saying zetas,cjng, caballeros templarios and juares Cartel are not cartels? Estas pendejo lol

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    5. Yes but none of the 10 or 40 are in Michoacán

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    6. Quit smoking that crack guero

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    7. Still waiting, so why is the Medellin Cartel not a pure cartel.....cause you just defined Medellin by your definition a cartel, then name a whole bunch of others Cartels....that by your definition you deem them note...by saying their a collective...why cause you say so...Puras contradictions..gringo pendejo...se escribe Medellin y se prounca El Cartel de Medellin ...not a pure xartel..get off the prozac

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    8. Cjng are michoacanos, case closed. Stop talking nonsense lol read the article above mensitos......

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    9. 9:13 you obviously dont know nothing and are new to this... cjng are Michoacanos... lol

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    10. i hope 1:56 aint got no kids, weapons, or sharp objects around cuz he about to break and dont make no sense

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    11. Ok, stuart litle. Ct, familia michoacana and cjng are active in Michoacan. That makes 3 cartels. Familia Michoacana are more active in morelos and Df but are still a cartel that has presence in Michoacan. Learn about ct and cjng so you understand more about what im saying

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    12. Don't worry 1:56 I know when you are drunk you should not be posting sheet, try again tomarrah, maybe?

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  2. Only nutthuggers michoacacas say theres templarios in michoacan but true is its only small groups who used that name to keep robbing and killing , michoacanos dont have the Don to be big Drug Dealears Like the sinaloense , my respects To Juan Gabriel he represents all michoacanos

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    1. He from Juarez

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    2. Juan Gabriel acutally represents juarenses thats why hes "el divo de juarez."

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    3. 9:44 he said juan gabriel reprensents michocanos not that his from there dumb fuck ,in a sense his right lots of michoacanos look up to that guy

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    4. @9:44pm Actually, he was born in Michoacan, but raised in Ciudad Juarez.

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    5. Obviously u never been to Michoacan. I bet you believe the gob is there to help jaja

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    6. 8:11 If by the "don" you mean the help from the mx narco mierdo cracia, plus US govt agencies like the DEA. FBI. ICE. CIA. Helping them eliminate their rivals so only they can become big drug trafickers. THEN YOU ARE RIGHT! Who the hell isn't going to be a big narco like that! ! Smfh.

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    7. Michoacanoses need no pinchi Juan Grabiel to represent them, he was born in the state, raised in cd. juareeez, but he made his "bones" when a general "puente" in charge of the prison in el DF took a 'liking to him'...
      --The Monarch Butterfly represents the michuacanoses with its biig wings like Walter Mercado's aka Las Mariposa Monarcas...

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    8. You call others nut huggers, so what does that make you ? A Sinaloa groupie ? I bet you wear nothing but knock off Gucci, Fendi, LV...ETC just to try and look something like your camotes.

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    9. 9:56 well his not a nuthugger cause its true , amado carrillo mexico biggest drug lord , other thing juan gabriel is from paracuaro, michoacano dont belived me look it up on google

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    10. @9:56 I think you hit that on the knob...dude does come off as a broke poser....no one else is that hateful

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    11. Amao Carrillo juentes was manlio fabio beltrones puppet and all DFS controlled by the CIA with a Lotta "atracomulcans" in the middle, Carlos Hank Gonzales and Carlos Slim Helu among the biggest Chilango Ratas, with the "guadalajara cartel" in
      prison, they just took it over...and divided it, just accused el padrino of dividing the "plazas" BS

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  3. Ha ha ha! "No cartels in Michoacán!" Ha ha ha! The General is obviously smoking some of the recently legalized bud. Cartels are organized crime. They are as organized as any criminal outfit in the world. These are not gangs. These are cartels, in other words, illegal Fortune 500 caliber companies.

    The General needs to vacate his state of denial. It's almost as bad as the Mexican government boasting they are trying to capture El Chapo.

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    1. El "general" looks like a stepped on toad, he can't see the cartels because later on they will be blamed for all his crimes against humanity in the state of michoacan, he is going with the book by the book moves of all the military gorillas like the pinochetistas or the juntas or Efrain Rios montt, or rafael videla, they didn't know nothing about no Caravana de la Muerte or torture centers, much less wholesale murders of innocents by their congenerates...

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    2. He's right, no cartels in michoacan, nomas una bola de pendejos que solo saben extorcionar y matar a la gente inocente y trabajadora. Aprendan a los Sinaloenses.

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    3. 8:25 - Cartel does not mean organized crime. And if you think these tweaked out criminals have the revenues of Fortune 500 companies your really stupid.

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    4. I think the mexican army is running to the toilet, but won't make it, when a giniral like this burrolas comes up with these pendejadas, he looks like Bagdad's very own chemical ali, packed full of lies...

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    5. 11:45, That's right. Fortune 500 is low balling for these guys--make that Fortune 100.

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    6. Chemical ali was one, a war general who used poison gasses sold to saddam by donald rumsfeld against the kurd population...
      --Bagdad ali was the saddam hussein spokesman saying the US was losing, and that the Iraqis had them US americans exactly where the Iraqi army wanted them... --turns out Bagdad ali was almost exactly right...

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    7. @ 10 18 like the chinolas never extort or kill innocents? Pinche vato estúpido lambehuevos. La gente de la sierra le no kiera trabajar PA ellos los sacan a chingar a su madre del rancho! Abre dime kien es el bueno?

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  4. well yes by definition they're not cartels because they're broken into small splinter cells.

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  5. Gurrolas a corrupt bitch like the rest of the government

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  6. he most likely is on organized crime payroll . who cares what you call them , they are evil . The money creates evil in Mexico .

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    1. General burrola is from the army, every body knows they tend to take sides with organized crime groups. Who is he with? He must be with one at least...

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    2. Read about giniral gurrola at Estado Mayor.com...there is some good dirt about his ass, his brother's ass, their relationships with presidents and secretaries of defense, and with narcos...

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  7. A bit unrelated but apparently there is a Mexican government document that says that CJNG helped break out El Chapo. I don't think that's true even if the document says so. I think it's probably the government using that as an excuse to go after them and not as much El Chapo.

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    1. BS and not widely reported. CJNG has made great gains apart from sinaloa. the article said mencho paid for atty;s like 10k for a few people.

      when did chapo ever need money or help?

      and do you think he would confide in a man already demonstrated his disloyalty once? I think not

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    2. @Chivi Yeah it doesn't make sense.

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    3. I personally also thought it was b.s chivis.

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    4. I know strange things happen, but this made no sense.

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    5. have you seen the document published anywhere?

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    6. Them cartel gangs in mx can be a bit tricky.... Is not always as it looks.... Like one small group of narcos can be "alies" with another group of narcos of a rival cartel, while at the same time the remaining groups/narcos from those same cartels can even get close to each other... Maybe because of personal beefs or some shit... Or the case could be that they are infiltrated one with the other, leading to all those backstabings/wars between cells of different cartels.

      But chivis, seems to be right... Who knows what is really going on with those son of bitches.

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    7. The beltran leyvas helped out chapo financially plenty of times....read it here somewhere ....vive El botas blancas

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    8. The Cartel de las Lomas and the Cartel Grupo Atracomulco, the PRI cartel, and the other poolitical parties puppets...
      --But if that is too hard to bear, how about the children shot and killed when soldiers and marinas arrested Semei Verdia? one BOY DEAD and 4 injured among the victims, and no juersaz rurales around to blame...
      --Pinchi puto giniral burrolas se hace pendejo

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    9. I hear you brother, pero nadie queire escuchar eso, quieren escuchar corridos falsos y nada que ver con su caracter.. 10:17

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  8. He's exaggerating it because there is definitely criminals moving drugs in Michoacan but it is still not completely untrue. With the mess that there is smaller gangs can't move shipments as easily besides CT were notorious for extortion, mining and other activities not related to drugs so it makes some sense.

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  9. No there are no cartels in Michoacán, because La Familia is all over in the USA!

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    1. The cartels have invested heavily in a lot of legal businesses, and el migueladas ain't going anywhere just yet, so there...
      --el kike and el chayo were trying to stick it up his ass too much and they are gone, it just took some of their own "CT" doing a lot of crimes in their name to demonize the lesser devil's, the CT, the biggest chamuco, "el migueladas" stays...

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  10. Shoot to Kill!!! Kill them all n Let God sort them out!!

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  11. Look closer at that picture. Look at those beady little eyes. If Servando Gomez Martinez 'El Profe' had a son... er oops, I mean if he had a brother or a cousin or maybe a butt buddy or if he put on a few pounds, an army uniform, and had some plastic work done, he would look just-a like-a El General Gurrola. This is some seriously ridiculous Bull Shiite. So this is what happens to comedian failures, they become narco-state 'generals'. "otra vez incautos engañados crédulos: aqui no pasa nada", blah blah blah...

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  12. very true. same thing happening in tamps. I'm from valle hermoso and i can tell you that a "cartel" hasn't operated here in a long long time close to 10yrs. what we have is a bunch of low lifes with guns (and many times no ammo) who thrive on kidnapping and robbing humble ppl.

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  13. This reminded me of when USA refued for years there's bo Mafia here. And, them hiding out in the USA....makes ir worse. Just my ten cents.

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  14. all you nut huggers what really should be our concern here in USA is that we stay drug free . its not a racism issue . its to keep our country from become a savage corrupt society . i dont think any of you really would like to live anywhere in Mex how things are now . or your kids getting abducted and heads getting chopped off . So check yourselves on that nut hugging . those evil people in Mexico make money off of the cokeheads and crystal heads here in USA.

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    1. Let's review: Air America flew s.asian heroin out of Cambodia, Laos, Burma & Thailand into u.s.a. inside body bags containing fallen soldiers' corpses during the Vietnam War. That's thankless evil. Introducing crack to LA Watts in the 1980's shredded American lives and financed usa clandestine military operations in Central America. That's genocide, the worst of human evils. From the '60's & '70's, Afghani and Lebanese hash traveled the world in its own style. DEA and USSR got hip to Afghanistan's poppies potential profits, US streets flooded with Pakistani and Iranian heroin and American gangsters in and out of government got rich. Mexico's not the threat to American children, American drug profiteers are a much larger scale of evil.

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  15. Apparently the general isn`t too fond of the Government to send 8.000 troops into the state and try to bring security back to the people.
    I wonder how much he is payed to make that shitty statement..

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    1. When the 8 000 troops arrive, el giniral burralas will be transferred to some quieter place, because there will be no $$$ to split in michoacan, vale verga asi...

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  16. No cartels in Michoacan? That's like saying there is no zetas in Tamaulipas. This general is getting Big money from the cartels in there, wouldn't be surprised if this punk is helping kill all the auto defenzas.

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  17. The ones we would like to call members of a "cartel" likely will never be seen, caught, or named. They are big interest groups for monopolized services or products, the range of activities are versatile, at the most they could be seen as the puppet masters behind criminal activity groups or gangs with the dream or urge to become someone through stupidity. Yes the term "cartel" exists in many aspects of business legal or illegal, but seldom open to the average "Joe" or consumer.

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  18. I honestly believe all this mess in mexico was done on porpuse by the gov to ease passing and inplementing their agenda which in part is all of reforms that they passed in record time and now are trying to implement.by this been said i believe everything will start coming to mormal once they finish inplementing all of the reforms and other changes they are doing in the country.

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  19. Another Ready; Fire; Aim big hat. Ok, he says there are no cartels. What the hell is the question?

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    1. LMAO! Thank you 2:46 PM.

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  20. El general tiene casa in Morelia y casas chicas in Acapulco and Cuernavaca. Aqui en Tierra Caliente, he is said to be un empleado de CJNG. His ojos say no existe carteleros Michoacaneros. The soldados are here for control de autodefensas and prepare the problems for Doctor Mireles.

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  21. General F. Goof speaks fluent Manda Unica in a DF accent. Although, in 2015, cartel is a euphemism--originally, it's a simple word with many uses, which DEA bastardised for Medellin/drugs-- Mexican cartels are anything BUT irrelevant. In Colombia, they've been rinsed out of the drug vocabulary mix because the gob is the cartel. The Templarios are hardly eliminated since they are incorporated into EPN's one-size-fits-all Police State mandate w/ its deployment of 10's of thousands of troops/police across Mexico in the name of law and order. Mexico is under siege for all intents and purposes. Add the governor of Baja's invitation to the US Dept of State to send in "crime fighting experts" to the sapo faced General's faked agenda and it tallies up to an invasion. Chapo--dude! See what you started! If, only ya'd stayed in prison....

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