Tuesday, October 20, 2015

Newest scenario: Chapo fell off cliff during escape, face injuries, possible broken leg

by Lucio R.  for Borderland Beat
Near Cosalá, Sinaloa
Sometimes when reading  a report or an article, one will  spot “facts” that are not so factual,  leaving the  reader questioning the integrity of the remainder of the story, especially when the article is threaded with additional, questionable “facts”. Those frustrating articles, leaves dedicated students of the Mexican drug war, organized crime, and capos,  with  some head serious head-shaking,  due to  the absurdity of certain speculations or reports substantiated from anonymous sources.

For starters, CNN is reporting that 3 days before a confrontation with Mexican Marina (Navy) Chapo was seen riding motorcycles with a son, and with another riding in a Ferrari.  The CNN report also alluded to 3 weeks earlier “Chapo’s son” tweeted a photo with his son while they were dining al fresco at an eatery.  

CNN did not say the location of the dining setting, only that the photo depicts “El Chapo brazenly eating at a restaurant.”  When the photo went viral it named Costa Rica as the location.


CNN didn’t name the son, but the young man in the photo, did not appear to be any one of the sons previously identified as being El Chapo’s.

Issues such as that, and the use artistic liberty, can be fed to most people north of the border, because most people north, use one source to educate themselves on Mexico drug war issues and news  and that is U.S. mainstream media. 

Chapo is many things, but stupid is not even on the mile long list. And he is an astute student in learning lessons from mistakes.  He was captured in 2014 after he became a little complacent with his security, making more frequent trips down off the mountain.  And he and his crew, were  remiss with those troublesome cell phones and radio interceptions the U.S. Drug Administration are so good at.

In the case of Mazatlán, his son and bodyguard were two of the cell interceptions that aided the capture. 

Riding around in Ferarri’s eating in public view,  when the nations forces, backed by U.S elements, are in hot pursuit, pulling out all stops, at all cost, is how a stupid man would conduct himself, fresh after a made for Hollywood underground prison escape, it's doubtful it would be the behavior of Chapo Guzman.

The aforementioned is a bit of a qualifier, leading into the report of CNN.  Which I believe has some degree of credibility, at least with respect to El Chapo being injured.

And since the story has flooded mainstream media, more than a few readers have been requesting information regarding the article and asking the opinion of BB as to its validity.  

The injuries were first reported by NBC.  Telemundo is a part of the NBC Universal family and NBC has published some credible articles on Mexico’s narco war, their sources appear to be relatively good. With Mexico’s confirmation about Chapos injuries, the report is more than likely accurate to the extent of he being injured.   I am going with the theory that medical personnel may have given information.  

But that is just conjecture on my part.

It happens more often than one would think.  An example is in the Iguala case, it was the medical staff that reported information including the command from the army and other authorities not to send ambulances to the injured and to turn victims away.  They ignored the command. And supposedly a doctor in Culiacan provide information about Chapo must prior to his 2014 arrest.

Cosala
Tamazula: dotting the roof are bullet impact holes, sustained from Mexican Navy's helicopter gunfire
The first reported violence attributed to Chapo’s capture attempts by the Marina using DEA agency intelligence.  The scene was in Tamazula de Victoria is a small town and seat of the municipality of Tamazula in Durango, near the Sierra Madre Occidental mountains. The town is located about 1.5 hours east of Culiacán, Sinaloa.  Reports initially came from the terrified citizens of Tamazula who fled their homes, into the forest, when Marina forces in helicopters and on foot were firing upon their homes in search of Chapo.  The search, which authorities and The Marina  initially denied.  It was the U.S. media who was reporting information given to them, most likely from sources within U.S. federal agencies.

The search then moved near the Pueblo Magico town of Cosalá, Sinaloa. Nearby lives  Dep. Lucero Sanchez, the lady of congress, who visited Chapo in prison, allegedly using false identification, and who the PGR agency has declared is the mother of Chapo’s baby son.


What is known, is that intelligence was used to determine that El Chapo was using a ranch near Cosala for refuge.  Federal forces discovered that Chapo was being protected by several layers of security, intelligence and a narco army of CDS soldiers. There was a shootout that became so intense it drove back federal forces that were on foot to reach the clandestine ranch.

What was reported by U.S. and confirmed days later  by Mexico,  is that El Chapo sustained injuries to the face and leg, while escaping the clash.  Mexico stressed twice in their presser that El Chapo was not injured by federal forces.  This information broke from  NBC Universal who cited sources within the DEA.

Neither the U.S. or Mexico; offered details about the injuries, addressed how they were able to confirm the story,  or in what circumstance were they sustained.  

There were reports of an ATV accident while escaping.  Other reports said medical personnel had forwarded information to authorities, another saying medicine, clothing and cell phones were left at the ranch.  And yet another saying Chapo’s so called “escape pilot” is singing an opera to authorities, the pilot who we know nothing about, no name, not even the date of his capture or how he was captured.
     Ricardo Ochoa Beltrán, mayor of Tamazula, Durango, is the brother in law of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán.
 The   mayor is married to Érika Guadalupe Coronel Aispuro, sister of Emma Coronel Aispuro, wife of the leader
of the  Cártel de Sinaloa. –he is legally married to only his first wife by his own admission when giving personal
information at time of 2014 arrest
That brings us up to date, and to the breaking Chapo news of the day.

CNN is reporting additional details in the “near capture” of Chapo in Cosalá.  

“A Mexican official, with knowledge of the manhunt said, “Mexican Special Forces had spotted ‘the ruthless’ drug dealer near the town of Cosalá”.

They report; authorities were reluctant to close in on Chapo, because, according to the source, there was a child with him.  Decision makers decided against a firefight because of the child.  In the world of Mexican decision makers, it is perfectly within in reason, while searching for Chapo, to fire into the homes of innocent people, from helicopters, without regard to the small children inside, but a child with Chapo, can cause federal forces to  slam on the brakes in a massive operation. 

The report continued, 

“later, when El Chapo was spotted without the child, Mexican Marines gave chase. That’s when El Chapo either fell or jumped off a small cliff, injuring his face, and possibly breaking his leg. At that point, the official says Guzman’s bodyguards rushed to the bottom of the cliff, carried him out and got away through the dense forest.

“They have him pinned in if you will, right in his area, his backyard,” said Carl Pike, Former DEA Special Agent.

One source says Mexican Marines weren’t able to catch El Chapo at that moment because they were on foot as well.

It continues:

“CNN has also learned, three-days before that chase, the drug kingpin known for killing thousands of people was spotted in a nearby town on a motorcycle and in a Ferrari, with his sons. Weeks earlier, one son allegedly tweeted a photo, supposedly showing El Chapo brazenly eating at a restaurant. 

Now, however, he may no longer be as bold because of his injuries falling from that cliff.”

“This involves bringing in people who weren’t in the normal ring. So now they got to find a medical person or a nurse or someone like that- that can actually tend to his injuries. And it slows him down, puts him in one particular spot that he wasn’t planning on being in before,” said Pike.

“El Chapo is known as a master of high-stakes escapes. He broke out of a high-security Mexican prison in July through this elaborate tunnel. Previously he eluded police, through a trap-door hidden under his bathtub.”

“Authorities could be tracking him through his wife, Emma Coronel, a former beauty queen, believed to be seen in some photos posted online.”  (-props for this time,  getting photos that are of Emma and not any ol Sinaloa beauty queen,  as in the past-)

“I would imagine that U.S authorities, intelligence services, and Mexican authorities are tracking her very, very closely. And that they have good ways of doing that. So I would have thought that it’s in most likelihood that they are separate for the time being,” said Duncan Wood, The Woodrow Wilson Center. (–especially with Lucero and the new kid around-)


Chapo’s wives,  children and mistresses

No aspect of Chapo’s life is boring and that includes his family and love life, here is an overview of his familial relationships.

In 1977, Joaquin Chapo Guzman married his first wife is Alejandrina María Salazar Hernández. Chapo remains legally married to her, and her only, as he never divorced her.  When he gave his personal history to prison authorities in 2014, he listed Alejandrina as his wife.

Their sons are Ivan and Jesus

In 1980 El Chapo Guzman “married”  his second wife Griselda López Pérez, mother of their 4 children Édgar, Joaquín, Ovidio and Griselda Guadalupe.  Edgar was gun downed in a parking lot at a Sinaloa shopping mall in 2008. 

It was at Griselda’s home in Culiacan in 2014, that El Chapo fled before capture, escaping under a hydraulic  spa tub hatch system,  that opened to a ladder and tunnel running through a drain system.  He barely made it out, thanks to the steel entry doors that required more than 5 minutes to penetrate and gain entry, by that time El Chapo was nowhere in sight.

Griselda filed a complaint with the Human Rights Commission because of the damage caused by the raid.

In 2001 Chapo married for the third time, to 18-year-old beauty queen Emma Coronel Aispuro in Canelas, Durango. Emma gave birth to their twin girls in a Los Angeles, California.

In July, 2010 Emma Coronel’s uncle Ignacio “Nacho” Coronel, a one-time partner of Guzman, was killed  in an epic shootout with the Mexican army and Navy.

Aside from the eight children acknowledged above, Chapo has an unknown number of children through various affairs with mistresses.

The most famous of his mistresses was Zulema Hernandez she was serving time at the Puente Grande maximum-security prison outside Guadalajara, where El Chapo was also serving his sentence, they fell hard for each other, and  became pregnant but suffered a miscarriage during the second trimester after a beating by prison guards.

She was released in 2003 and arrested again after she was caught with two tons of cocaine. After her second released in 2006 she became a part of the Sinaloa cartel,  until she was killed by the Zetas in December, 2007

Her body was found inside the trunk of a car, she had been shot in the head. Carved into her breasts, stomach and buttocks was the letter Z.



120 comments:

  1. So they have him contained? Sorta hard to believe, they would have already went for the kill. Run, Chapo Run!!

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    1. All the kings horsemen n all the kings men could to Chapo together again!

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  2. If and when Chapo's location is identified the USA is sure as hell not going to notify Mexican authorities. It will be a snatch and grab or drone strike. Chapo and Quintero are dead men walking.

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    1. i agree. there wont be notification

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    2. Bull, in order to keep their (U.S.) hand in the cookie jar, they're going to leave everything in place for the Mexicans to believe that they made the capture...Drone strike?, not likely, Mexico is too close to home and they only do that overseas (in the movies or the news), lol...

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    3. Disagree. That would be a violation against mexicos's national sovereignty.

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    4. The USA does not abide by any international sovereignty. They will do as they please including a drone strike. Mexico has absolutely NO power to stop them.

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    5. You can bet your Spanish Land Grant Chapo won't make it to Christmas.

      They are right on top if him for sure. It was also reported that when they captured the pilot, they also got his plane. They got the data recorder and seen it flew all over but ALWAYS returned to the same airstrip "Cosala".

      They had Eyes on him, and whats worse is that he was in firing range.

      Bravo to the Mexican People for having such an Integral force of Marinas. Threw and threw they have shown that they are impregnable of corruption.
      It appears that they are on a mission to reclaim there country's honor.


      ~Spectator

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    6. Spectator
      Do you believe in the inherent good qualities of man also?
      The mission to save our collective souls from the horror of self annihilation?Nah man im just trippin out after reading your comment,i feel like listening to cumbya my lord or some shit like that,thanks for that Specs baby.I have a new belief in the righteous path of mankind(i dont really)but who knows?

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    7. Mr speck of S, The impregnable marinas had a subsecretary of the Navy working with the Guerreros Unidos princess/crown queen empress of iguala's imperial couple, maria de los angeles pineda de abarca...
      --the Marinas also had el chapo in their eyes, and on firing range but could not make the bullseye because of...nerves...? Children on the way...?
      --el chapo also outran the marinas on one leg because the other was broken...
      --isn't wonderful Los Misterios del Señor?

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    8. 6:27 PM, that would be "Through and through."

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    9. Tssssssttttttt....

      You guys are tripping. I dont have all the details-Im pointing out the fact that ehen he escaped last time he was seen again until he was caught let alone shot at.

      Perhaps they shot up the village after he escaped. But I also hear that he was wisked away on ATVz and thats why he got away grom the Marinas who where on foot.

      Regardless, like I said "You can bet your Spanish Land Grant"

      Joaquin Guzman-Lorea wont make it til Christmas.

      The Mexican Government has already filed the paperwork to expedite his extradition if he dont go out shooting. Which going by the downed chopper; He intends to.

      Either way the man will die in The Mountains.
      Occidental or The Rockys- For all his power and money, this will be his last decision.

      ~Spectator

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    10. he will make it to christmas no extradition will be done because since he is a citizen of Mexico he will be charged and must complete his sentence in mexico which is like 300 to 400 yrs based on article found here on bb just check archives google it so U.S. A wont get him i think their more concerned with ISIS TERRORIST GROUP

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  3. Very nice Lucio. It is good to have a walkthrough of the events. I would say him (Chapo), being brazen would not be a shocker. His sons flaunt his escape and he knows many fear him. He will be caught or killed. His best choice is to turn himself in. Nothing comes from making hunters angry but death.

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    1. I'm guessing he would rather die than get extradited to the USA.

      I know I would. Everything I've read has told me living your life in Colorado's Supermax is hell on earth and simply mental torture.

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    2. Thank you, Lucio. Much appreciate being able to get some perspective on all of this. Loved the article, great work!

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  4. The sierra's of Cosala hold many secrets, less than a month ago many probably didn't even know it existed, now a lot of attention is being placed on this beautiful city hidden in the mountains. It's strange to me that el chapo would even be in those area's because el gato is said to control most of those parts and it is said that he is the one person chapo fears the most. One thing is for sure though if he was there it will be very difficult to capture him, those people de la sierra know how to hide and survive very well off the land because that is how one lives over there.

    El Cosala

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    1. El Gato? Elaborate his on his identity.

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    2. Al gato le a mandado gente el chapo y no pueden con el. Pero segun esta en la sierra de san ignacio.

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    3. Is el gato cdj?

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    4. El gato gente del mayo zambada?

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  5. I heard that he was injured when he fell, not from a cliff, but from a curb!

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    1. I think it was his crib he fell off of?

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  6. El chapo se cayó de la escalera que usa para subirse a sus zapatos...
    --the photo with a lot of clouds is they gunsmokes? Or is it la revenge of moctezuma?
    --They could have filmed from a "shorter" distance under the cloud cover to appreciate the HD 'sceneography' and the parachute jumpers, al cabo el chapo can say CUT! anytime he wants

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  7. You guys are funny seriously I don't support none of this cartel movement or any other cartel. but how do you know he broke his leg how do you know he is hurt? Like do you have close ties to el chapo to know that? Really just really let the guy be if he is caught I don't believe it'll be alive its just hard to believe that people know so much without even knowing the guy get real people.

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    1. You are supposed to believe that on foot, and with one broken leg el chaporambo still outran the "pursuers"...
      --It is amazing that you get caught with 2 tons of cocaine and get released in 3 years, and with a previous record like zulema, but that she gets beaten by prison guards and made to lose a baby, that says there are some prison guards that needed some killing.

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    2. For everyone Zulema Hernandez was the girl armed robber Chapo moodied in Puente Grande,she got pregnant by him but hard case guards beat her and she lost the baby, when released she becomes CDS main man in DF(think) as she says, she was caught with 2 tons of coke, Chapo sent in team of lawyers an she was out in 3.But, Zulema paid the price, Zeta basura caught and killed her in Mexico city, found in car trunk.You have to say, Chapo helps his women so he gets a mark for that...

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  8. CNN is about the worse source for news there is. So no surprise what they are saying is sketchy.

    When El Chapo was captured last year they raided his condo while his wife and twin daughters were with him. So if the Marines thought they had him this time around the fact that a child was with him wouldn't have stopped then.

    It is pretty ridiculous they reference the supposed photo tweeted of him, which was reportedly in Costa Rica and not Peru BTW Lucio, as it has been thoroughly debunked. It is indeed a photo taken in Costa Rica but it is of a family vacationing and isn't El Chapo or his fake son Alfreito who tweeted it.

    The photo supposedly of El Chapo in Costa Rica can be found online without the cropping and the cartoon imagery layered on top. As if we didn't already know it was fake, it's been completely debunked.

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    1. Costa Rica Sinaloa, near El Dorado Sinaloa. These 2 communities are in between Cosala and Mazatlan. Now if whether the post by Chapo's supposed sons instagram is true or not, I wouldn't know, but I also wouldn't doubt it.

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    2. It was not him the pic came up showing their faces some random as people lmao

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  9. A little off topic!
    However, it relates to the Cartels involved in human smuggling international crime.
    If you do not know, Canada has elected a new PrimeMinister.
    During the campaign he pledged to remove Visa requirements for Mexicans which was implemented in 2008, as 10s of 1000s of Mexicans and Non-Mexicans arriving from Mexico were claiming refugee status.
    Anyone arriving in Canada can claim refugee status and it takes many many years for that claim to be processed. While the claim is processed the refugee claimant is given welfare $$$(at least 1000$ or approx. 10000pesos per month) free education, free eye glasses, free dental.
    Many Mexicans and non-Mexicans when their refugee freebies are eliminated and they are about to be deported(the return flight is paid by Canadian taxpayers) go underground.
    Mexican cartels, for a handsome fee, were getting foreigners into Mexico and getting them a forged Mexican passport and onto a flight to Canada where they claimed refugee status.
    Also. for cartels it was an open border for cartel members to enter Canada without security checks.
    Justin Trudeau the new Prime Minister hasn't recalled Parliament, however, this reversal of visa requirements has been promised.
    Hasta luego

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    1. Poor Canada,I bet that system hasn't been abused.

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    2. Aww, why dont they protest,, in Canada,, not Mexico

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    3. For a price, that is the price canada pays for the opportunities to go and make a killing snatching business opportunities all over in mexico, many European countries are doing the same, once their investments are up and running, they suspend the refugee status, the refugees are unemployable, and must self-deport, but nobody can deport the "legitimate and untouchable canadian businesses and investments" in other countries, nor any other foreign business, they also have treaties of mutual defense, and for the cwribbean, the pacific TTP, nato, otan, nafta, but what they need is some DDT...

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    4. Toronto is the most popular choice; perhaps because the government of Ontario provides immediate welfare and healthcare services above and beyond what most Canadians receive, including full dental coverage.
      Canada placed a visa requirement on Mexican travellers in 2009. In 2008, nearly 13,000 Mexicans claimed to be refugees and asked Canada for asylum. About 90% of those asylum claimants from were eventually found to be bogus, requiring deportations on Canada’s dime.
      But by 2013, only four years after the visa was brought in, the number of Mexican asylum seekers went down to just 84, most of which were accepted as legitimate refugees.

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    5. but who will want to live in Canada?

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    6. Commodities futures in the construction industry and in marijuana out preformed all others on the TSE Toronto Stock Exchange, today --2 days after Trudeau won BIG. Canada voted for change, obviously.

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    7. Here's the thing, it's a UN committee that sets the world's immigration quotas, not the individual, member nation states themselves. The committee convenes every few years to determine these numbers. Surprise!

      Canada agrees to accept a high quota of refugees, because we also get first pick, ahead of everybody else, out of the professional classes candidates applying to immigrate abroad. UN Convention Refugees relocation and resettlement costs to Canada don't come out of the Canadian taxpayers' pocket per say. There is a system of reimbursement payouts from UN funding sources that covers Refugees Services costs to the Provinces. It doesn't serve fear mongering and divisive politics, however, to enlighten the Canadian public on how these things work. Canada 2015 is descended from Indigenous First Nations, immigrants, refugees and their families. Family reunification is the cornerstone of our immigration laws.

      The Provinces each make their own immigration laws and policies. There isn't a federal agency that determines immigration to Canada like los gringos INS. The Federal Ministry of Immigration is more of a clearing house, after the fact.

      It's Harper's former minister of immigration and wind bag, Jason Kenney, who told local cbc punditry that Canada wouldn't be accepting refugees from Mexico due to the fact it's a "politically stable country with a democratically elected government." Kenney, also, introduced the term "radicalized youth" into Canada's political lexicon. John Baird, another Harper brand ministerial fave, confirmed, this, later, following a visit with EPN. (Baird quits public service, becomes CEO of a gold mining conglomerate).

      Prior to the Harper decade, anybody with a valid passport could enter Canada. Mexican citizens, included. Beside, the Leftists, Right Wingers, Communists, Gays, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Agnostics, Atheists, Colombians, Cubans, Angolans, Libyans and Vietnamese, etc. Americans didn't need passports to come to see us. Customs and Immigration would grant Visitors Status automatically at the border, at airports, ports of call. The length of the visa could be days, months, up to 2 years in some cases. Visitors Status meant you were welcomed to come and go as often as you liked for that set period of time.

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  10. My question is, without actually seeing him, how do they know he has the injuries that he has sustained? Sounds a little skeptical, or corrupt, if they are certain of the injuries of man not apprehended. If they are close enough to get a glimpse of his face and injuries, then they should be taking him into custody.

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    1. drone CAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    2. Your question is answered (or could be anyhow) in the article above!

      "This involves bringing in people who weren’t in the normal ring. So now they got to find a medical person or a nurse or someone like that- that can actually tend to his injuries."

      People like to talk especially if they treated a famous person.

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    3. Thats why they keep changing the story cause they didn't have him at all .... Shooting into random homes thats wat this operation was going in like if its Afghanistan hahahah wow

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  11. Unfortunately Chapo is the best thing Mexico has going. He is most respected and trusted person in Mexico. I think it's a case of the bad guys (Mexican Government & US Government) going after the good guy (Chapo). As screwy as that sounds, but this is Mexico with the help of the US.

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    1. Most respected and trusted??? LOL you fool

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    2. Oh, yeah, great guy this Chapo is. Ordering the murders & killings of people, having them burned & beheaded, trafficking drugs, breaking the law, those are all signs of a "good, quality person".

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    3. Your wrong. There are no 'bad guys' and 'good guys'. Of course both governments care nothing for human life and I doubt Chapo really does either. And Chapo is not the most respected or trusted person in Mexico! Your deluded.

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    4. @7:43 Yes, exactly!
      --the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia can not even get started chasing bertie boy moreira or his facking brother, tamalepas viejidio cantu and his Herculos, javier duarte and his zetas or his cjng mafiosos, or "la muñeca"la fabis beltrones, or, or, or...

      --i mean, there are worse people that do worse crimes for longer than el chapo who at least earns and spends his own money, those worse people, in partnership with US gov. rogue agents who are fighting a war against other rogue US gov. agents, for the drug trafficking business all of them claim to own or covet...
      --see, CIA felix ismael rodriguez aka Max Gomez promised a lawsuit against DEA Héctor Berrellez who he called estupido and his co-accusers...
      --but LE FALTARON HUEVOS a "max gomez" al ultimo...even with CIA backing...
      --i feel like "max gomez" is 'el estupido', a murderer, a drug trafficker and a crook...
      --sorry, but no sorry, 'sugarhoneybaboonbuns'

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    5. Wel he is respected in culican

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    6. Bravo 11:07!! well said.

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    7. Love when you use "narco mierdocracia" lol

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    8. 11:00 in order to not confuse them, "mexican governing narco-mierdocracia" go together, because, you know?
      --The pooliticians may start thinking they are home free...

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  12. Lucio, you have made this site bearable again. Great recap. Less Chivis please.

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    1. This blog has been ran by her for year's you fuckin nob head,shut up

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    2. 7:45 is still Jones'n for Chivis. It is clear that you really want more Chivis not less. Why else would you keep bringing her name up? I concur, more Chivis is better. Thanks to Chivis from many readers.

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    3. Obviously, you are provoking a reaction. Here it is; go to another blog. Chivis is appreciated as much as all of the BB administrators. In fact, a little more, because she's Hot! LOL.

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    4. Chivis is the reason I agreed to come on board, Chivis is the reason I stay. Without her assistance I could not be involved. You have no idea the amount of effort she puts forth in helping all of us with whatever we need to get the job done.

      I don't know why you would write such a comment. I wish Chivis would not have posted it. Without Chivis there would be no Borderland Beat.

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    5. CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS CHIVIS.CHIVIS...
      #ya me canse,
      @7:45 chivis allows your nasty nobody ass, I am sure she is better than you...

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    6. Chivis and everyone else who contributes here: THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. Que Dios siempre me los cuide y bendiga.

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    7. lol. i actually enjoy chivis posts. really.

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    8. She even lets the idiots have a voice. Why would he bash her, being part of the club and all........

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    9. Gracias a chivis

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    10. CHIVAAA!!! I just wanna thank your defenders, i'm jealous, but what you gonna do, that happens with national monuments...
      So in your name and mine holding hands and everything:
      thank you, thank you, thank you, muy agradecidos, muchas gracias...}:●》

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    11. Chivis is one of this stinking world's bright lights. End of subject! :-)

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    12. Alright man, calmate, dont go to far out

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    13. ever hear michael marizcal? borderrreporter
      ask him abourt her and this website. Thatsif u wann know the truth. she wont post this.

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    14. Calm down people, my attempts at humor fell flat, I was sure no one would think I was serious.

      Chivis is amazing, love her, obsessed with her, thank her for the years of diligence for us slobs. All for love, no pay.

      Peace/Out

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  13. One thing is for sure. Chapo will always have a place in Mexican history.

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    1. Chapo is a True Mexican Hero.

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    2. 7:45 ...and el chapo will have a.place in the mexicans hearts too, how's about that?

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    3. 7:45am

      Sort of. For the most part history books are about the politics, economics, and military doings of a country. From there they are about great intellectual and cultural happenings. After that you have to go into more narrow history books about certain subjects. Chapo will be a very minor figure confined to the annals of criminal history which 500 years from now will be completely forgotten except for specialist in the subject. Yes, he'll have a place but a very negligible place akin to a dusty corner of a floor with a dead fly laying upside down.

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  14. The picture posted in Costa Rica was not el chapo and son the photo was posted on social media showing all there faces chapo is 10 steps ahead and he does not have a broken leg and no longer in the area

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  15. ~@~ Looks like the DEA want a new puppet all the heat chapo is getting lately means there will be a new Forbes candidate this is a game to make the Mexican gov look at least an ounce less corruption ....

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  16. For all fools and believers, this is how they use media as a tool for propaganda and to condition..

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  17. Why do they have issues capturing Mayo

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    1. 9:49 AM, To distract you and me from what is really going on in Mexico at the hands of Narco Gob soldiers.

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  18. Why don't the U.S. Send our troops out there it's closer than Iraq

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    1. Ask your local congressman why. If you get lucky and they actually answer you. Be prepared for a long winded speech on Americas #1 priorities.

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  19. Costa Rica Could be is city in the same state of sinaloa .... I no, my girl friend lives about 30 minutes from their. She lives in El Dorada

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  20. There's a video of la Marina shooting into a family's home with very small children I doubt that they care about chapo having a child with him ether la marina is lying about everything or there really stupid I thing its both

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  21. Cnn is just another corporation of the United States of America they report bullshit whatever the gov tells them they report how could he broke his leg and get carried away if they first said he got away in atvs this is all bullshit they are after a ghost not Guzman come I think people are catching on to the lies

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  22. Why they show la Santa muerte chapo don't believe in that crap ... He's a sinner and a drug dealer not a devil worshipper by the way it sounds like chapo is the ones who has la marina on the run hahahahah I saw and article that claims the Mexican soldiers are protecting him also that makes it extra hard god luck

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    1. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. 1 Samuel 15:23

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    2. The marinas and soldiers running to the area to place yellow tape on the crime scene said they don't know nothing and that they did not shoot anyone, the military commanders said the same thing...
      --So, there is/must be, private paramilitary forces doing special private specialized paramilitary work there, like ayotzinapa...

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    3. Peace in Mexico is bad for business. The Colombian goon devil narco paramilitaries are all over this, side by each w/ MX Marina at the service of both countries Narco Gob.

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  23. It sucks to be el chapo at this point. If the mexican government doesn't get him then the US CIA will kill him one way or the other. He has far too much heat on him for this to dissipate. The fast cars and richest aren't worth it if you cant flaunt it with your face out in the open. Like the crooks of wall street.

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  24. How can a sixty year old man with a broken leg and cuts on his face, being carried by his henchmen escape capture?
    If they were actually that close to him, why didn't they just take him out ????

    Something ain't right !!!!!! IJS

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    1. Exactly. There are so many stupid excuses for why he hasn't been caught. Remember in Los Cabos? I think 2011. They first said he went out the back and hid in a beach party and then they said the girl he was meeting to have sex was on her period so he didn't go! It's just funny. How lucky would this guy be if all that shit is real?!

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  25. Good article but seems contradictory at times. Suggesting he's an astute man yet it goes on to describe sloppy and careless behavior from him.

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    1. go back and slow it down. What it says is yes he was lax by going off the mountain too much and not being attentive to cell use by those close to him. that is how is was captured. But that is the point, that he is not stupid and would not be acting contrary to a man now very cautious. as says CNN, Breitbart and others invaded by fabricators such as silvia Longmire. can't stand her phony ass. She knows nothing without wiki

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  26. I love this site! Thanks again! Keep up the good work! CNN sucks!... from the great white north!....
    Also reading around on the Internet looking for good sources of news. came across this article of, A few members of a cartel being arrested in Vancouver BC. no name of which cartel. But interesting enough for me that. I've been looking around wondering how much more of a reach do those cartels have up in my country of Canada. Which is why I follow along on here.

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    1. Big time reach, amigo.

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  27. How can someone get away from special marine forces with a broken leg. The mexican government is a joke ask El Tio Chapo. He's back in Los Mochis thanks to the army that protects him..

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  28. Its funny how they dont say the several soldiers that die tring to enter el chapos ranch and the 3 helicopeters that were brougth down by chapos security forces one its for sure its not going to be easy to captured and when they do chapo going to figth till his dead

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  29. Always been fascinated by the way Z40 was treated compared to Chapo. Wonder if the guy who has Chapo by the neck is still alive, something tells me I doubt it

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    1. Z40 was respected more than chapo by the marines o who ever got him why

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    2. He was not respected, he was crying about his rights being violated and him getting his ass kicked by the Marina. To keep him from doing that they let him stroll around como Pedro por su casa.

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  30. Well incase you guys didn't know contras entered guzmans & mayos territory the outcome was barbarinos and many other deaths the whole marina thing is a clean up operation by el chapo to gain his control why when he was locked up did they not do this for el mayo ?in other words this is a coverup

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    1. Y tu como sabes eso compa? Y quien son los Barbarinos?


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    2. Barbarino es el del regalo caro compadre del chapo.

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  31. Canada has Sinaloa operatives station there they receive shipments and distribute to low level street dealers

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    1. No. Nothing street level about it. The products arrive to Canada, the Canadian plaza bosses are Canadians.

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    2. The Canadian plaza bosses are triad and hells angels and Punjabi Sikhs on the west side their mid level dealers are street gangs that shoot each other on the regular

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  32. I just read they spotted him walking down a road with a lil girl but waited until he was alone and chased him until he ran off a cliff where his men quickly picked him up and got away

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  33. Hey Chivis in got sky satellite here in the mountains of L.a and a couple of days ago I saw a video report from Televisa of the actual town were the stand off went down and they said they starded firing into the homes cause they were retaliating the people claim they took down at least 1 helicopter but strikes the most is that they said hundreds of soldiers were there 1 hour before the events going back and forth like they were preparing for an attack and know I saw another report about how the military protects Chapo guzman

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    1. military protects whoever they contract with to sleep with. mencho is the best at it they all do it.

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  34. Not even Pancho Villa nor Hernan Cortez can help El Chapo now.

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    1. Chapo is being protected by hundreds of soldiers relax dude there not getting him again he's the one calling the cards

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    2. chapo & mayo gets protection from the army, they are under mayos and chapos payroll. Thats why they always evade capture.

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  35. Lucio take an American journalism course. Your lack of education and forming proper sentences gets worse with each of these!

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    1. 3:24PM, Calling bs on that, buddy. This reader holds an MA from Columbia University, NYC, School of Journalism; is an editor; a retired journalist w/ a nationally syndicated US columnist out of DC. In my not even close to a humble opinion, the only damned thing Lucio needs to do is keep writing. Cheers!

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    2. I bet you don't even know a second language you twat.

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    3. 3.24
      This nob head right here is trolling Lucio and in turn readers, getting his little jollies off expected replies?
      Trolls are some goofy motherfuckers?

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    4. your ignorance , judging by the time you posted your comment, is due to you just having put the meth pipe down and ready to rumble with sanity, manners, and intelligence. It is you who is displaying a lack of education and good sense. Lucio you have arrived when you become a target of trolls. keep up the exceptional work.

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    5. @2:37 PM, y como que voz sos la beracera andante por ser tan huetputamente bien habladito pues.
      Peace out,
      11:56

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  36. Thank you BB.

    Lucio, this is an excellent, clear, fair overview of a very confusing situation. I have read a couple of dozen U.S. media offerings and walked away with greater confusion and wondering how to give clarity to what is being reported. This post answers questions, poses others and explains what it means or could mean.

    Best article out there. BTW LAT published an article on the Tamazula shootings and people fleeing a full 10 days after the fact, well after BB's postings on the same subject.

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  37. Escaped on an ATV? If thats true and thats how he broke his leg maybe he needs one of our down south mud boggin rednecks to teach him how to ride one lol! U can turn one over pretty easily on a hill thats too steep!

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