Friday, October 30, 2015

Conversation between CDG comandantes reveal car bomb plans, narco message follows

By Lucio R. Borderland Beat

On October 21we were sent a link to an audio recording which was posted on the Face book page “Río Bravo Zona De Peligro”.


While there is no way for us to verify its authenticity, there has been a development that makes it worthwhile to post the story.

Translation of the audio narrative

This is difficult but what makes sense is that there are 2 lines of communication going on simultaneously.  I believe there is the cell phone communication between CDG comandantes Chiricuas and Wero (guero) Cleofas, and also an open radio frequency communication with comandante Toro which is referred to but Toro is unheard.  (Julian Manuel "Comandante Toro" Loisa Salinas)

In the recording Chiricuas is off the rails high and does most the speaking.  At first there is a little banter back and forth,  Chiricuas then says that Los Zetas cartel is back in Cuidad Mier. 

Mier a border city in Tamaulipas was the site of the 2010 CDG/Zetas massive combat over control of it and other cities.  This was at the time of the split between the two former allies.  Mier was ground zero of the battle.  It was the first Mexican city where citizens were told to leave or be killed.  In the mass exodus that followed, thousands of families had nowhere to go, and shelters were set up in nearby cities such as San Miguel Aleman.  BB administrator Chivis Martinez and her foundation took supplies to the Mier SMA shelter, read about that troubling experience by linking here.

In the audio,  car bombs are discussed.  Chiricuas tells Wero of the plans to detonate car bombs in the vehicles of the Fuerza Tamaulipas.  He says this is for retaliation of the heavy hits against Metros (CDG) of Reynosa by the Fuerza. 


Wero (left) tells Chiricuas to “turn off the radio, tell the boss (Toro) I am at his service”. 

Also discussed was a reference to “Capo Leal Moncada" (Narco Viejo) saying he was told when he wants to see Jefe Toro about send a car bomb for the police, to tell the Jefe of Victoria.  He refers to the police as “fucking polinegros, poliguachos, poliazules, polimarinos”.

Subsequent to the recording being broadcast on October 21, (the same day we were sent the link), on the Face book page “Río Bravo Zona De Peligro”, others picked up the story over the next few days. 

A week or so later a narco manta appeared allegedly from “Toro”.

Above is white truck seized in the near capture of Toto in October 20th, the money
Toto said was inside was not listed as being seized.  

The translated text:
Mr. President Enrique Peña Nieto, Governor Egidio Torre Cantú, Mayor Pepe Elias Leal and the State Police Force of Tamaulipas, Fedral Police, Sedena and Marina, this message is for you, to make it clear, I am a drug trafficker, I am not a terrorist , as announced through social media, where it said that I want to use car bombs to unleash a dirty war.
There is no justification, I am outside the bounds of the law, but I repeat, I am a drug trafficker.  I am also seen as a kidnapper and extortionist but check your files, and you will see these crimes have decreased since I have been at the helm.
Also, why not make public about what happened with the 8 million pesos and 158,000 U.S. Dollars that was inside the white truck that was seized in Los Arcos
In the end you are the same or worse than us, because you are criminals also, the only  difference is that you use the police to commit your abuses and violations.
Sincerely,
Comandante Toro and CDG

68 comments:

  1. Christian Lopez PalafoxOctober 30, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    With all the infighting and hits CDG been taking, seems like they defeated the zetas alot of strongholds of Los Zetas like Ciudad Victoria, San Fernando and Mier were taken from them after Z40's downfall, there was a time when the Z seemed unstoppable

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    1. CDG defeated zetas in victoria? says who? vicky is zeta 95%. CDG do have people inside, but that doesn't mean anything. zetas have people in plazas like matamoros and reynosa, and they are still CDG plazas. mier has been for a long time CDG territory, la hamburguesa is from mier. i read a few months back that zetas were gaining territory in mier, too.and 40 was already locked up. as far as i know san fernando is still zeta, but it was always a very disputed plaza. zetas have always made their incursions into matamoros, valle hermoso and reynosa from san fernando.

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    2. Also any group that grows as quick as z doesn't just disappear

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    3. When the seta ship started sinking, ALL THE RATS had been leaving for a while, because the rata-zetas elitist capos chose to buy horses and horse ranchos instead of paying their halcones and other sicarios, the top setas left first.
      --Of course many people who chose on time still are in business but not with las setas...

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    4. Christy, you got yer self your own personal troll, 95.55% yours @10:18...
      --Make hay...quick, Mr. President...

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  2. A novel way of bringing heat to the leaders of the Metros, wonder if anything to do with Ciclones Orejon capture? Either way its probably in house of CDG

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  3. Strange seeing the soldados standing either side of the manta?

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    1. Looks like they are holding it so we can read it

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    2. Say what you will, it looks like a Guard of Honor for the manta, next they are going to burn it and blame it on "estudiantes narco-guerrilleros alborotadores" as usual...

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    3. Its very common ese to see two soldados next to anything they confiscate

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  4. Want a little wine with that cheese? Execute these cartel cockroaches.

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    1. Before you start executing people who are victims of cerconstance. I say cerconstance because the government has always been exploiting Mexico any future thanks to the greed of the Mexican government
      start with a revolution to cleanse all of Mexico from grips of corrupt government lench All PRI and PAN delegates start fresh. It's because of the PRI and the CIA that the cartels have be able to metamorphosis into what they are now.

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    2. 10:39 pm

      Circumstance

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  5. Guero cleofas es traidor

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  6. That's funny! Working for the same cartel yet! Wero cleofas don't want to go see Chricuas cuz he is scared he might kill him

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  7. I personally believe the recording is staged and fabricated. Horrible acting at best.

    CDG are known to have personal meetings, and they hold them often.

    Why would top capos speak of such extreme plans over the radio?

    If this were the 90s, sure, but the groups in Tamaulipas are extremely technologically inclined and there is reason why we have not heard such recordings before.

    Paz,

    -P-

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    1. Well one does most of the talking and he's rampaging too. Sounds drunk and shit

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    2. Orrrrr "off the rails high"

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  8. El mata amigos sembro las semillas de la desconfianza, now assiel cardenas guillen wishes he had not been sech an asshole...
    --Mention bombs and the US will run you over, obama is lissenin', the US can not keep covering up for all kind of bomber freelancers wannabe's anymore...

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  9. En la radio frecuencia es entre el Wero Celofas que opera en Reynosa y también el Chiricuas este último en la ribereña en la plaza de Miguel Alemán hasta Mier.Se escucha cuando el Chiricuas dice que ya se metieron los Zetas a Mier y luego el Wero Celofas se burla del Chiricuas diciendo que nomas cuando toma se hace hombre jajajajaja.

    Luego el Chiricuas le hace burla a Wero Celofas diciendo que el Wero Celofas se pintaba el pelo y las uñas cuando estaba arriba de las patrullas con el Picol jajajajaja.


    También en la radio frecuencia mencionan al Viejo Moncada este personaje es integrante de la columna armadas de Pedro J Mendez es un grupo auto defensa que opera en Hidalgo, Tamaulipas al servicio del CDG ese Viejo Moncada es culpable de los coche bombas en Victoria Tamaulipas al igual que los atentados de coche bomba en Nuevo Laredo.Ese Viejo Moncada es un viejo narco ya tiene 3 décadas operando en Tamaulipas y ahora tiene ese movimiento de auto defensa pero es un auto defensa disfrazado porque es mas Golfo que nada!!!


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    1. good stuff. question: the part whee they speak of Zetas in Mier, something is said about a different operation needed to be used , I assume to eradicate Zs. what is your interpretation of that part?

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    2. Chivis out of curiosity.. R U DEA agent or someone in a government agency??? Please respond... If u aprove my Question...

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    3. well no, but why would you ask such a question? I have been truthful about my position and work. I went to NE Mx about 12 yrs ago to operate our family foundation. I went there because my mentor works there and he could help me. Once there I realized I was in the middle of ground zero in narco activity and violence. And that I knew nohting about cartels.a friend gave me a list of good blogs, BB was one.

      In the Mier link above, Ovemex wrote about Grandma Gloria, that is me. Ovemex helped us on the Mier Project which was the scariest project we have ever done. it was almost impossible to get a truck company to contract with us.

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    4. Chivis no tienes porque darles explicaciones a nadie aqui. Si te queren chingar deja los que les cueste. No les hagas nada facil. - El Soldado Perdido

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    5. Honestly i wish u were.. Thx for all U do for da good ppl.. I don't know how govt's do really work.. But i think its time some Mexican Governor's n mandos start paying for what they Do.. It takes 2 to tango.. As u probably already know Cartel n Government go hand by hand.. Anyways thats just my opinion.. Oh.. And P.S. MY NICK is just to undercover my self in that world.. Criminal world that is.. Im Mex/Am Y estoy cansado de ver a la gente de bien sufrir.. mi familia has also been affected by the O.C. causality of war they called it.. Peace out.. Chivis n all da Ppl in BB.. Thanx for ur work.. And if i can also thx to blog epoca violenta.. You got my respects for what you guys do...

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    6. LYerberito
      Stay down dude,Mex-Amer and proud,,whoever and wherever we all from

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  10. This cowards have they days counted if they dont get kill by the marines or end up getting snitch by they own people at the end some else is going to kill him thats the cycle of the tamaulipas drug traffickers dead, snitching, mata amarrados, cobardes,extorcionadores ,violadores you name it

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    1. Me beeing from tamaulipas is hard to admitted but what you said its true bro

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  11. pos que pinches joterias son estas ?!?! El Viejo Juna N Guerra se a de estar revolcando en su tumba de oir estas mierdas joteando.

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  12. So where is the 158K from the white van?
    Z40 had 5 million when arrested. Where is the other 3 million?
    Anyone?

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    1. the difference is that in the case of '40' the government reported it as seized, as in the US the government keeps seized money.

      but in the los arcos case of toro, the government said nothing about the money as if there was none. and one of the generals disappeared.

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    2. The gvt declared only 2 million but L40 had 5 million!
      That's the story floating around NL!
      Maybe that's why he could walk around without handcuffs!

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    3. surely you aren't implying some sort of corruption ?

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    4. 12:08 uuh? No señor presidente, we would never imply any such corruption thing...
      --come think of it YES! Fack it, the mexican government is as corrupt as a puppet can be, only left behind in corruption as its puppet master...
      --The next Banana Republic, run by Gorillas Bananeros, the US Of A...

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    5. Ohh shit,its on one again about the US

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  13. the use of the word verga y guey every 2 seconds is just horrible use of language . A spanish teacher in High School told me that Mexicans speak the worst spanish . dont want to hurt some of yall's feelings so i wont point out which states have laughable dictation . You have to speak on that level naco in Mexico cause if you try to speak correctly then la paisanada will persecute you. btw im chicano and no im not racist .

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    1. D.F. and all the border towns use terrible language and bad humor. All the little ranchitos people don't have education well they do but by 13 you either work or go to school not both.

      And its not true Mexicans have bad Spanish. Because my grandparents and parents never spoke trashy and we are from rural areas of mexico. ( but we also had descendants that were European immigrants so maybe they knew Castellani)

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    2. Even a chicano is scared to open his mouth cause of race bullshit.Thought it was called truth.

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    3. "Verga" is a word mostly use by sinaloenes , like "hey verga " " arre pues verga " is like saying "wey" for them , personally i like the way sinaloense speak , i dont like how people from mexico city talk but thats just my opinion
      -USA Girl -

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    4. On the US shit is used for everything and similar wording for everything else, from hillbilly speak to rapes to broken english/spanglish speaking legal and illegal mexicans, born in the US or emigrated...I suppose because the living language is alive and kicking, man will make up his own educaishun wherever he goes, sorry for the academics and the learned scholars, come visit often and save what you can from these savages...

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    5. At 736 am
      So u rely on what a teacher told you?
      Obviously you haven't heard, salvadorians,guatemalans,Puerto Rican or Cubans talk. Travel a little bit so u won't have to say ,"a teacher told me "

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    6. in Zacatecas you get slapped for talking like this ,

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    7. 7:36, I'm a little confused in what you seek. You realize, by your own account, that different states have different dialects (Not Dictation). Wouldn't you say that your use of the term Y'alls pertains to Southern America. NOW I am persecuting you for your misconception of the word dictation, Paisa.... I am Mexican, American born and not a Racist...

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    8. @7:36 your "dictation" is laughable at best. you got so excited to point your little ignorant fingers at "paisas", you didn't even notice your own mistake, what's worse, in English. Diction, dumbass. Diction. Not "dictation". Since you're an ignorant dumbass, read and learn: dictation refers to language as it pertains to being written down. Diction, refers to choice of spoken vocabulary. You learned something from the fruits of the paisanada you jumped at what you perceived as an opportunity to insult, captain jackass. Stick to English kid, you've yet to master it before you try and take that scary, scary leap to Spanish. Peace desde Texas, y vete a la verga wey.

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    9. En zacatecas todos usan guaraches anque traigan las uñas pintadas, no botas, y los mas machines de los setas y las golfas eligen hombres de la mitad pa'trás presidentes municipales y gobernadores.

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    10. Yea peope from tam., sinaloa, monterrey swear to much an talk terrible, in zacatecas they show you to speak with respect an refer unknown and elders by usted , but alot of the new generation is not following these manners nowadays because they wana sound cool speaking like ppl from other states

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    11. You got a point mr. Chicano but here is something you may already know,even though we are all mexicans coming from Mexico ,we ain't the same ,meaning if you grew up like in the north part of mexico your spanish and SLANG if any is gonna be diferent from like a chilango like myself you dig? Per example if you call a michoacano GUEY he may wanna give you a beating because you are calling him cuernudo (wich he probably is lol) so yeah spanish and slang is diferent depends where you are coming from,by the way we don't have sex with burras in DF you feel me? So bottom line chicano you and your imaginary teacher se pueden ir mucho a chingar a su puta madre,if you ain't understand that ,you better ask somebody.
      From Chiraq.

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  14. Your generalization of Mexicans makes me believe that you are not familiar with Mexicans of every socioeconomic and level of education. Like every country, people who grow up in low-income areas or have a low level of education, are the ones who tend to speak like this. Central and South American Spanish speakers also have words that they use that are considered vulgar and of bad taste by those who speak "grammatically correct Spanish". Same goes for the English language, many people believe that the use of "yall", is a poor use of the English language. Many people believe that New Yorkers have the worst English, or Californians have the worst English. But I have heard the most that Southern Americans have the worst English. It all depends on each person's personal opinion about the subject.

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    1. the geordies from tyneside in England speak the worst English or scousers hoooway man

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    2. Thing is wherever you go, adapt, and work at transforming what.you can, or die...
      Vulgar language is kind of a measurement of the level of patience, when there is not much patience left, beware, be affraid my friend, be very affraid...

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    3. Middle class and rich mexicans use words like "que te pasa?, ubicatee, no, para nada, Dios mio tantos proles, ignorantes..." ...bien pinche fresaaas, los güeyes...
      --Los pobres con aspiraciones les copean, y los candidato presidenciales le copean el copete al "vitor"...con todo respeto...

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    4. 12.11 am
      And what do you speak?fuckin queens English?Whats that?
      Dialects and slang make people interesting...Vulgar language,who are you people?Where do you live?

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    5. @ 1.16
      Very prescient of you brother,you have a keen insight.
      Many people struggle with that patience which can then easily transform into something mindless and dangerous..

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    6. @4.36 i am a geordie, we have to be subtitled on tv in england, so narr ah divvent taalk the queens English old chap . and scousers sound like theyve swallowed a wasp ..

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    7. why you wanting to know where i live anyhoo? coming for tea?

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    8. That depends?Coming for something else?And,I never drink tea, so get the coffee on, and maybe a cigarette?

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    9. cigarettes and alcohol maybe lol

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    10. 2.04
      Brother your not a sand dancer are you?A lot of area call themselves geordies?Bro' geordie jeans,there taight round thee arse '
      No problems bro,be cool by the banks of the Tyne..

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  15. VERGA! You're right ! Lol

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  16. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong, but I was taught the word "verga" is the rope used to anchor or tie off boats at docks. No offense, mostly heard from Central American people. A very vulgar word referring to dick, cock, penis. Which is a disrespect, when used with Mexicans and probably picked up by the Mexican people when migrant people from Central America passed through.

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    1. Pendejo is a wooden mallet, there are some persons whose IQ level matches them.
      -- era is a measurement of intelligence, like a genius is somebody muy verga, and many dumbass es believe they are muy vergas and se pasan de lanzas porque no valen verga...
      --el Ferras who was as decent man of honor and integrity would say "merga o mergas"
      --many BB COMMENTERS are short on all senses of the word, but we welcome them.

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  17. Fucking TERRORISTS and they should be treated as such.

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  18. El gobierno mexicano contract new propaganda program, #ya chole con tus quejas!
    Where one "good" mexican advises another to get to work, more and better to progress instead of complaining all the time, it has unleashed a PATRICIA SIZED STORM OF ANSWERS...LIKE
    #Ya chole con tus pendejadas EPN...
    --And others telling peña nieto and his peñabots que chinguen a sus putas madres, y que se vayan a la verga, pendejos...

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  19. whats polinegro mean?

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    1. Polinegros are FuerZa Tamaulipas state police they call them like that "Polinegros" because of their black uniform.

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  20. El Toro been around a long time,anyone know the picture of the young El Toro with a tactical vest on holding up an AK he has shades on

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    1. "El toro", a poco muy cuernudo el güey, mas bien parecer una pinchi Vaca, sin cuernos y toda botijona como paquita la del barrios..

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