Tuesday, August 18, 2015

United States Family attacked and shot on vacation in Michoacan

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Michoacán 3.0 article

[ Subject Matter: Ramos family
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required]

Reporter: Michoacan Redaction
This past 31st of July, the Ramos family were enjoying a vacation in Michoacan, when they were attacked by gunfire by armed criminals, killing one of the occupants. It appears as though the van in which they were travelling was attacked in error by the criminals.

The brothers, Bruno, 18 years old, and Jesus Ramos, 19 years old, their father Ignacio Ramos and their uncle Ramon Ramos returned to a park near the town of Periban, Michoacan, on board a Chevrolet Envoy colored white when then were attacked.

The United States  youngsters were gravely injured, as was their father Ignacio Ramos, meanwhile their uncle died in the attack. The victims were taken in an ambulance to San Diego, California, to be treated, however Bruno was gravely wounded when shot in the head, and fell into a coma.




According to family relatives on CBS television, travelled to Michoacan to spend some vacation days, when they were attacked by members of a drug cartel that confused them with other people, however it is assured that the Ramos family have no links to drug traffickers.

Since the event, colleagues and friends of the youngsters, some students in Oxnard, California, have started a series of activities to support the family and their medical bills. For their part, the family started a campaign on GoFundMe  to raise more than $50,000.00

This past 1st of August according to a press release, the PGJE of Michoacan informed that the attack took place a little after 8pm, during which a 53 year old man was killed, and another 3 persons were wounded, when they returned to a park located on the Rancho de Pueblo Viejo, in the town of Buenavista.

According to the PGJE, the 4 occupants of the vehicle after the attack drove towards the Town of Periban, but near the town of Copetiro, Ramon Ramos died, while the family were moved to different health care institutions to receive attention.

The PGJE said it had concluded its investigations.


Original article in Spanish at Michoacan 3.0

117 comments:

  1. Now i can see how they did not make it to the hospital if they took them to the hospital from periban to sandiego that's a long drive more like 18 hours or are they confusing the coperito municipal with coopertino California

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  2. Who in their right mind would ever vacation in Michoacan knowing the instability of the state? I know people from Michoacan who refuse to go back there for any reason. Prayers for the victims and their family.

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    1. I was just there two weeks ago. I live in Guerrero. There's tourist driving up and down the coast road. But, to be fair, there is definatly a weird vibe in the towns.

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    2. They were visiting family there. It wasn't just a random vacation destination.

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    3. How the fuck do cartels know if you are on vacation or visiting family???? Being at the wrong place at the wrong time sounds better.

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    4. "They were visiting family there. It wasn't just a random vacation destination."

      Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Most idiotic racist comment in the thread!

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    5. The cartels are in their turf, you are supposed to know where you go to...
      --these touristas...

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    6. @dick they just paranoid and all coked up so they do mistakes ..

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    7. your plates shows states .ever heard of license plates thats a dead giveaway.

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    8. I visit friends who've lived there for over 20 years, often. No one's had any problems. Have you ever read the news for any major American city? Stuff like this happens EVERY DAY. OOOOH - Failed State - don't go to USA!

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    9. Please spread the word 7:37 but I have a feeling no one will listen.

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  3. The PGJE has concluded its investigation, but I can't help asking why people keep going to mexico? Somebody paying for it every day...

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  4. People sad to say, but the WARNINGS have been out there for the past couple of years, STAY AWAY FROM MEXICO, TRAVEL AT YOUR OWN RISK!

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  5. That's heart breaking! Can't even enjoy a vacation in Michoacan anymore without beying a victim of cartels. My parents are in vacation in morelia. IThey told my it's not violent there though

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  6. Thanks for this story, BB. This is for the idiot Michoacán govt. that say, "aquí no pasa nada."

    AND for all the ex-pat gringos in Mexico shouting - TOURISTS ARE NEVER VICTIMS OF NARCOS IN MEXICO. THEY'RE ONLY AFTER "THE CARTELS"

    (sorry for the CAPS, but these clowns really do shout it out)

    The truth is, those ex-pat gringos think Mexican-Americans killed in violence in Mexico don't count. They ignore them if they have Spanish language surnames.

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    1. What you say is true. It's helps them feel safe. Like " that won't happen to me, my last name is Jones". Like these crazy cartel boys care about your name.

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  7. I hope some of us can help with a go fund me contribution, that be amazing! I am donating $10

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    1. 8:19 Ni pa' timbres, pero güeno, 1000 guys will make it $10 000.00 dallahs...
      --that covers the cost of one swab and an aspirin, except the deductible...
      --no tv or cable or wi-fi...

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  8. Here is an example of the violence in Mexico. I live in Chihuahua. Just yesterday about 10 houses up from mine, in a very nice neighborhood, shots rang out as I sat at my computer. I did not go and check to see what happened. My neighbor just said it was a balacera. One of my neighbors a few houses away was telling me that her sister and cousin were going to a birthday party in El Paso in the morning yesterday. They were commandeered by a group of men with machine guns and wearing military type gear to pull over. They were assaulted and robbed at gunpoint just within eyesight of the Santa Teresa border crossing in the light of day.

    I have lost good friends that had nothing to do with the drug business or criminal enterprise. They were just "have's, and were or are being effected by the ""have not's". I have friends that are being extorted now and can do nothing about it.

    For those of you that think it is safe to drive in Mexico and profess to have never had a problem, and it is just a bunch of gibberish you are way off base. The possibility of crime effecting you awaits around every corner throughout Mexico. It is a crap shoot. As long as you are not effected you feel that you are OK until it happens. But many families have close and more distant family that have, or are now being effected by crime. It is not safe to drive anywhere in Mexico. You must use caution and common sense while driving long distance here, and sometimes that does not work either. So many things happen in the resorts that are never reported, but are told over drinks at parties at a later date. You may not be one of the effected but many have. Might not be life threatening crime, but it can sure put a damper on a vacation when you find you have no more money, or are being scammed.

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    1. Mexico is really fucked up, my brother in law was killed in front of his kids in Rosarito. at first the media said he was a criminal and because he had a few tattoos in his arms he was gang related, when his tats were tribal symbols, and not them cholo aztec prison tats either. The newspaper labeled it as a local narcomenudista executed when hes not even from the area and was actually planning to get into law enforcement in San Diego. it was later said that he was confused with a local deug dealer since they later found a truck like his shot up with a dead man inside, in the same area he was murdered and this guy did had a record of selling drugs. Also my ex wife went on vacation to Mexico DF with some friends and she dissapeared, this happened 3 years ago and till this day we dont know anything. all we got from the police over there was "well shes an adult she must have left on her own will" no U.S. tourist dissapears on their own will, not when she leaves 2 kids behind. annd the embassy is pretty limited on what they can do because they go by reports done by mexican law enforcement, all they could do is check hospitals, jails and morgues. and we were told it is common for young american women to be kidnapped drugged and sold to bars nightclubs etc and if murdered itbis most likely they end up on a clandestine grave rather than the morgue. Her name is Vanessa Vasques she was just 23 when she dissapeared.

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    2. Sorry about the losses, but WHAT THE BLANKETTYBLANK were they doing in mexico? there is more fun on the corner bar on your block or next block, contribute to the demise of tourism, fack mexico and traveling there, that will help the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia clean up their act quick...

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    3. they were in Mexico because they had that mentality of "It cant happen to me, it only happens to those involved"
      all this "we respect innocents" is pure Bullshit

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  9. This is said with my respect for Mexicans and my love for Mexico, a country I've known for over 50 years. Forgive me, Mexico is no place for tourism or family vacations, right no--hell, its no place for most Mexicans,, any more.. If, you want to help our Mexican brothers and sisters, stay home and send $ to any number of existing philanthropic organizations and grass roots charities operating in Mexico. This story of the Ramos family's tragedy causes sadness and anger for their losses and on going suffering. It was all so unnecessary. So's the drug war. LEGALIZE! Peace....
    K-K

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    1. how is legalizing one drug "pot" going to solve the drug war? you would also have to legalize coke speed and heroin.

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    2. Yeah, legalize everybody's pet crime, meth, pederastia, prostitution, pederasta tourism uppers and downers, kidnapping extortion and theft, after all one million dollars per legislator is the prize...
      --I do not know how legalizing anything is going to solve a problem of public corruption supported and encouraged by the US weapons and treasury.
      --the mexican government is always trying to impose federal solutions just to see what they can steal, autodefensas without federal meddling were working fine...

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    3. Because drug money is what causes the corruption.

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    4. That's right, legalize all of it--the weed and the spacepowder (s). Sell and tax. You want to buy pot, go to the shop of your choice. If, you are a spacepowder addict, go to the doctor for a script and get ready for treatment & rehab. If, you're an idiot who goes to the doc for a legal script because you want to try out coke, meth, heroin, oxy, crack, morphine, etc., the doctor couldn't legally write you one. If, all this stupid mierda were legal, then to sell pot and prescription drugs illegally would remain felony offenses. Addiction kills. Treatment for addiction tends to be awfully expensive and seriously under funded by governments. The DEA's yearly operating budget for 2014 checked in at nearly $200,000 billion with a "b" USAD, up from the $164 billion, 2010/2011, waste of taxpayers' money. DEA is a bad joke. Shut it down. The phoney war on drugs has done nothing other than corrupt and kill, illegal drugs have never been as available as they are today. LEGALIZE!

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    5. Free supply, government financed, all you can eat...just agree to study your addiction, you can work, and function, and the US government will chop off 90% of its drug war expenses, and incarceration, no money to be made, no competition, nothing to gain from hooking the neighbors' kids, better quality...

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  10. get a grip. 20M americans visit Mexico each year.

    220 die of some cause, accident, criminality, or sickness.

    stop the hype.

    another 1m or so live in mexico, and another million live n mexico without papers.

    those are better odds than any where in the united states

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    1. Yeah, what he say !

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    2. Whatever... your a complete moron. Keep your head in the sand.

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    3. Great answer. Just keep away from michoacan!!

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    4. I wonder if you'd say the same thing had this been your Family?

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    5. True but from those millions you are talking about, how mAny goes to Michoacan. Probably not too many. Most of what you speak of are the tourist areasbsuch as cancun.

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    6. ok, then so nobody visits Michoacan? LOL and please those more tha 4 millions from Mich, state you better leave now¡

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    7. BB readers live back of rio grande river right behind the carrizos, they are not part of 20 M americans who travel to cancun or los cabos.

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    8. Living behind the carrizos is bad enough, I live by the boondocks, but I am not telling anybody, we don't even have a zip code or a zip gun

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    9. If you go to a resort town ona plane or walk across the border and stay in a tourist haven I believe its relatively safe.

      Try driving there.

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  11. i visited most of the states in mexico and the scariest states for me are michoacan guerrero and most definitely Tatatatatamaulipas!!!

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    1. Haha...it's a shame Mexico has gotten to the point where it's not even safe to visit. Such a beautiful country and culture.

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    2. The most peacful states with narcos that dont mess much with people are san luis potosi, zacatecas, durango, aguascalientes , parts of nuevo leon & jalisco

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  12. sucks they got confused for some other people but i mean regardless Mexico is not bad for tourist. my family has gone 2 times a year last few years & so have i. my friend drives down to michoacan 2-3 times a year with his brother & sister. it's just a matter of wrong place wrong time in some cases.

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  13. Well thats what happens i knew those guys cause they used to go to my school always tring to be tuff guys saing arriva michocan and stupid shit like that see pendejon your own people kill you dumass only cowards are born in michocan i always told you that pendejo

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    1. Ok that explains it....if is true that they are banging puro michoacan, and listening to narco corridos acting like caballeros templarios, well they are lucky they only got shot....the reality is that michoacan is not under control of michoacanos, is different cartels with people from other states that go in " para pelear la plaza" ....sad but true about them probably acting stupid..but not everyone is a coward or a killer if they are from michoacan, I think it depends...but anyways tell us more about this guys, did they belong to any gangs or claim a certain cartel association? ?

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    2. Callese joto. Domas porque un Michoacano te bajo la vieja andas adolorido! Bet you anything that when you saw them at school you would move around them and not look at them. But behind a screen you get brave jaja

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    3. Your just a hater, I bet you don't even know them anyway tough guy lol

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    4. You knew them? Really they always tried to be Tuff guys?

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    5. 3:06 un gordo, prieto, enano from michocan bajandole la vieja a alguien lol buen chiste loco

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    6. I belive you cause i have leave around this shorth ompa lompas all my life in the usa always thinking cause they born in michocaca they are inmortal lol then they wake beat up or dead hahaha

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    7. Umpa lumpa lol that's a good one. I'm from michoacan and most of the men in my family are over 6 foot tall. and yea, we got a few nuckle heads that think their bad just like every family in Mexico and the U.S. DON'T BE HATERS! WE ARE ALL MEXICAN DAMIT!

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    8. 1:52 All you babosos talking out your ass. It's cjng, ct, viagras and they are mostly michoacanos and Guerrerenses but bosses are Michoacanos.

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    9. At 827pm.....it makes no sense to say the leaders are from michoacan....why a real local won't destroy and terrorize their own state and land....I keep on saying that most of the sicarios are from some where else is because is true....some of the sicarios that rob and kill in michoacan are rotated around, usually but most are foreign to the state.....the goverment needs to star cleaning house cause a revolt will happen soon...at this point in michoacan you have 2 options, fight or fuck.....

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  14. I'll keep my ass here in LA, safe and sound.

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    1. Safe and sound , in LA ? You must live in a bubble.

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    2. Unless you live in Beverly Hills..

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    3. If you guys had better gun rights the drug addicts would be scared to enter houses or rob people on the side of the streets...
      I"ts not about shooting back its about shooting first and not getting shot at"...

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    4. 10:16 and then you are going to help with the attorney fees?
      --Not everybody can get city hall, the NRA or the brotherly police association to pay their lawyers...
      --i think you are muuuy pendejo, stuff your advice over there in the "over there"...

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  15. I have lived in Mexico for about 6 years now. My papers are checked quite often at revisions. Stopped twice in one day. The police are looking for any reason to arrest and get money out of you. Not having correct papers would be a perfect way to extort money and I was told at one of the stops that I would be jailed and deported if I did not have my paperwork. I do not believe that another million live in Mexico further South of the border without papers.

    Many people are scammed and have their things robbed in the resorts. My Aunt and Uncle were drugged before they relieved them of their things. I was scammed by a rental company in Puerto Vallarta, my favorite beach destination. I did not buy the insurance. They came to the hotel and with a key took the car and hid it. We found it hidden at the agency. They said I could not leave the country until the car was paid for.

    We were with a group of people in Puerto Vallarta. A young boy hit his fathers water ski mobile and the father died. The boy went to the hospital and the police went their to arrest the boy for murder. The boys mother was horrified that this was happening. The Doctor being a good and honest man told them the boy would need to go to the USA for emergency surgery which was a lie. He was able to walk out but the police were ready to arrest him. He got on a flight with his mother, her son in a wheel chair that he did not need and flew back home. This was a trip sponsored by the Alside's' Supply Company of the USA. The list goes on and on and on. People are effected, but you only hear about it in conversation. There are sites on the internet that talk of some of the horror stories that have effected tourists. I live in Mexico and have for 5 years. My wife is Mexican and I love the good Mexican people. But do not fool people into a false sense of security and think that nothing bad can happen. These things happen all the time. The resorts are prime grounds for fleecing tourists. The police are involved in many of the scams.

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    1. Same.
      Buddys family were killed in Michoacan at a road side robbery. The police came and charged the only survivor of the wreck. After the rest of the family died and were robbed lifeless and of material belongings.

      Dont be fooled the police are shit bags

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    2. Very helpful information. Last year I talked my nephews out of going to Mexico as tourists. These two young peeps and their wives (all Mexican-Americans ) had a cavlier attituude that they would be safe, ta da, ta da, ta da.

      I gave them graphic examples of the violence and focused on how American tourists are prime targets for scams, extortions, kidnapping, and :contrived "accidents."
      I challenged them to explore BB stories to confirm my scary allegations.

      These kids educated themselves and cancelled their vacation plans.

      As a loving uncle, I am glad I did the right thing because I define them in my mind as trusting ignorant targets for any number of horrific possibiliites.

      Mexico-Watcher

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    3. Many of the police are just sent out to "work", mainly to see what they can find to bring back to the inspector or the police chief, they are bound to the authority, and if caught, nobody knows them criminal impersonators, just find out what the police officers are paid, be it federal, state or municipal, the most of them do not even get minimum wage...

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    4. 1224 am --mexico watcher...well done, it tales some one in the family to break the reality and some common sense into our young mexican americans....here in america we have safety and you can always count on having judicial rights......in mexico is a war zone..I understand we have our paisanos that are die hard mexican fans and the tree huggers that beleive mexico is walk on the park..... im glad you educated your family......I had a friend that wanted to vacation in Afghanistan, I'm serious, he wanted to explore the culture....I showed him some videos of decapitations by terrorist and guess what he end up going to Miami for 3 weeks instead.....

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  16. Mexico Travel Warning
    travel.state.gov › english › alertswarnings
    May 5, 2015 - ... U.S. Citizens Mexico· Crimes Against ... U.S. citizens have been the victims of violent crimes, such as ... Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico ...

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  17. On vacation in Michoacán? They should have known much better

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    1. Is like going to vacation in Afghanistan. And getting confused for a terrorist by an American drone....most mexicans look the same...especially at nite.

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    2. should have given the family in Michocan money to at least travel to a safer part of Mx to meet.

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  18. I DID BUT HAD TO LEAVE

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  19. and this is why i would never visit mexico unless its cancun or cabo san lucas. prayers for the family

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  20. That is the risk of going into michoacan, I know that we have the mexican patriots that claim make is safe and nothing really happens....reality is that mexico is no country for old men ,or individuals not familiar with the area, michoacan is a war zone, maybe not like iraq, but worse because 1 caballeros templarios got disabled but not exterminated, 2 jalisco nueva generasion are trying to take over, 3 others cartels have a presence in michoacan...and they are fighting but on the low down..kind of shooting first asking questions later....most real natives to michoacan know better than to get inside a suv In groups of 4 or more , why??? Mistaken identity, it happens all the time....most mexicans travel by bus..is like going to east los angeles wearing the wrong colors...anyways is always the same old story.....stay away from michoacan, sinaloa, jalisco,tamaulipas...bad places....places to vacation outside mexico...but if visiting relatives in mexico talked to them, ask them questions, don't just go out like is the United States of America... when I visit michoacan, because of my relatives. First thing I do is ask how is everything" quien rifa y para donde no puedo ir" so dress like them and try to blend in and keep my self around the neighborhood where they live....otherwise Goodluck.

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    1. can you post a link with this shit happening in sinlaoa...

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    2. I bring my oldest clothes tattered but clean and dont shave for a bit when I go to the tianguis to buy tacos or mercado by myself. Show off to be seen and never be seen again

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  21. @10:14. You're beyond a moron for posting those comments. You seem to be the TRUE pendejo in all of this.

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    1. Whats your prood he's lying Mars? Or are you also talking out of your ass?

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  22. It's never safe to travel in Mexico at night. Unless you got a cuerno!!

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    1. dude my brother and i traveled too chihuahua city at night... we were on a Chevrolet 2015 high country with a atv on the back... it really depends

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    2. Im sure a 380 on. The side of a narcos head is more effective than 30 rounds in A slipt second...
      "opposition is opposition"
      Don alejo proved it.

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    3. Many people go traveling to mexico because they got two cuernos, go to prove they got two cuernos, they are güeyes certificados...

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  23. My primo got killed last year in florida while on vacation from jalisco a drug addict ask him for money and thought my primo was acting like he did not know english a month ago a french tourist got killed in hollywood same reason

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  24. Yeah, you can't generalize and condemn all of Mexico for what happens in Michoacan..there are many peaceful, nice places to live. I lived in Merida, Yucatan and in a small beach village called Chelem for 7 years and though it is hot (much cooler at the beach), I never had any issues with police, military, or Mexican residents....I have many Mexican friends there.....except for the occasional mordita, but that was usually in Campeche as I was driving through Ciudad del Carmen.

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  25. shot in michoacan, and the ambulance took them all the way to San Diego, a 2 day drive!!!

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    1. That's insane,. Where is the logic.

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  26. Anybody with some common sense knows that if you are going to be driving through Michoacan or any place that is riddled with violence in Mexico, DO NOT go driving in a nice or newer looking vehicle - you'll only draw attention to yourselves....It's much safer and you are better off driving an older looking beat up car.

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    1. It was an aerial ambulance; the flew them to S. Diego.

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  27. An ambulance ride from Michoacan to San Diego, CA? What's the bill look like?

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    1. For real a ride from my house to the emergency room less than 5 miles away cost me almost two thousand lol

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    2. The brothers were flown to the U.S. by plane...a air ambulance. The flight cost thousands of dollars. The family feared for their safety is they didn't leave Mexico.

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  28. News makes a big deal of nada here in the usa its the same ..in california shootings all the time in the ghettos many ppl get killed but i feel like we have to blame everything on mexico. That last name in michoacan are known to be drug dealers im just saying..

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  29. For all you folks talking about you lived in Mexico for this many years and that, was it before or after 2006? That place has gone to hell since the start of the drug war. If you lived there before that year than yes it was somewhat pleasant. Cartels are scattered all over and it is hard to say where crime will strike next. As for Mr. USA news and his primo killed in Florida and a French tourist in Hollywood, everywhere has crime. However everywhere does not have beheading, mutilation, dipping bodies in acid, massive shootouts. People constantly compare one crime in the USA to an all out drug war. The isolated crimes in the USA is in no way comparative to massive executions in Mexico. If this is what is helping people sleep at night in Mexico by stating these ridiculous unsubstantiated facts, than so be it. I have yet to see a massive clandestine grave and thousands missing and not looked for in one year in the US. Mexico should be comparing itself to the Middle East. Now that is a perfect match.

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    1. You're making some serious sense, 7:02 AM. 2006 kicked off too many nightmare years, days and dark nights in Mexico.

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    2. Excellent logic... props to you.

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  30. If u can afford a vacation you can afford your own medical bills.

    If u vacation in Mexico or Syria and something bad happens its like climbing everest and then getting stuck by a freak snow storm. Don't expect people to come save your stupid self.

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  31. Four grown male Mexicanos rolling in a vehicle is asking for trouble in Michoacan. If you are a narco and you see these guys and you don't know them you automatically assume a rival is cruising your turf. So what's the answer? Shoot'em up now then ask questions later. It's a sad situation but the fact of the matter is Michoacan is a war zone and is more dangerous for Mexican males then any other demographic. A group of gringos rolling thru are realistically not a threat to these narcos but 4 unknown Mexicanos can easily be misidentified as a threat. This was a disaster waiting to happen for these men it was probably just a matter of time.

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    1. Drugs create psychosis of all kinds, even the cheapest mariguana, there must be something with the lice there, to create them murdering paranoias, or maybe the lack of maruchan, they do not even eat to pay for their weapon...

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  32. Guys, is Uruapan Michoacan safe compared to other towns? Planning to visit family there during the winter break. Please let me know, really appreciate it!

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    1. Uruapan is one of the cities that is hit hardest by narco violence.

      But, like anywhere, just be careful. Don't go out at night. And stay out of outlying areas. Stick to downtown and the sites there. Listen to the advice from your family.

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    2. @1057 travel at your own risk....I called my kinfolk , and I asked them what's good fam, and they told me same old shit , killings violence poverty, I mentioned that I wanted to visit they told me to wait for December cause there is a lot of Americans around so is safer...they are in michoacan too, el vergel a ranch next to uruapan....so my nigga go at your own risk , the block is hot...

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    3. @ 9:37 p.m. "wait for December cause there is a lot of Americans around so is safer."

      Well, last December was the shootout in La Ruana that killed more than a dozen. Then, Noche de Reyes in January was the massacre in Apatzingán where as much as 20 were killed. NO good time of year, really.

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    4. Update:

      https://www.quadratin.com.mx/justicia/Se-registran-tiroteos-en-distintas-calles-de-Uruapan/

      http://www.mimorelia.com/noticias/michoacan/sicarios-atentan-contra-pionero-de-las-autodefensas-en-uruapan-michoacan-sale-ileso/177837

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  33. The biggest mistake these people made is not traveling to Mexico per say, but their overconfidence! What im trying to say is that regardless of the victims just visiting family or the car they were riding in, just the fact that three, four or more males are riding around town in certain areas of Mexico can draw suspicions from feuding cartels leading events like this. I live across the border from cd Juarez and I have heard about this happening there many times including the police mistaking people for drug dealers or cartel members because of this! I respect peoples decision to visit family in Mexico but they should always be aware of these kinds of dangers!

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  34. there is a pueblo just south of rio nexpa in michoacan where ive been surfing. anybody know the name of it? it seemed a lil sketchy.

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    1. Caleta de Campos. It's a cool place, but you need to be careful driving down the main coast highway to get there.

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    2. Even though I can drive with my surfboards in my vehicle , when I'm on that coast road between Nexpa and Ticla, i strap them to the roof. I want them to know I'm a tourist from far off. Big cities, better to hide the boards.

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  35. I guess American families will have to have predator drone escorts on vacation in mexico where is Mireles he needs to be president and get this squared away. The cartels are just getting careless now.

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    1. Dr. Mireles was not seeking public office, right now he is just seeking his freedom, it looks like he is not an opportunista...his mistake, his problen, to be or not to be...
      --If you are going to be, there is no room for vacilations, you need to go for the throat, that keeps the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia up there, he should have had galindo cebollos and his harem arrested, naked and kicked out of the state when power was consolidated, allowing el Castillo de cagada talk and talk and talk cooked it for him too, he needed rape right away, governments' words have no value...

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  36. Returned to the park.
    Why did they return to the park where they were shot.
    Macho Mexican wrestlers were going to beat someone up?

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  37. I'm from tamaulipas, and that state is not hot as micha or guerrero. Place is a warzone over there. Trucha raza, no vayan pa ya o los pueden cuetiar. Im stayin en el "otro lado", para siempre o hasta que se enfrie.

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  38. Hey, I traveled (drove) Michoacan last week, Patzcuaro, Santa Clara del Cobre and Morelia, all great, beautiful and calm, I have been robbed in Houston and San Francisco. My son was attacked in Chicago.

    This is Borderland beat, it is to show crimes on BOTH sides of the border, several crimes occur to Mexican nationals in the US.

    Last month I went to Louisiana (that has a higher murder rate than Michoacan) and all safe and ok.

    Please people, be SMART and RATIONAL, don't demonize a entire countries or race, that is what Hitler did. To judge people by ther ethnic origin, race, skin color, religious preference, gender or else is call RACISM.

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    1. We all know crime in Mexico is under reported by a huge margin compared to the US. I don't think I would compare Louisiana crime to Michoacan crime because there is not really a true measuring stick. Outside of the housing project in New Orleans Louisiana is very safe unless you like to go swimming in the swamps.

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    2. To judge people by their ethnic origin is called prejudice not racism. To judge people by their race, which is skin color, religious preference, face and body structure, etc. is called racism. Please read school textbooks unlike staying afloat with the uneducated by will

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    3. Dude stfu, I am from michoacan andyou don't know what you are talking about. One road trip doesn't make the country safe ad a whole.

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  39. Los Macias do all the Hits for Sinaloa is a crew of about 40 Hitman in Tijuana'

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    1. are you sure? do you have more info, and links to posts or social media?

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  40. sonora es seguro!

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  41. Cjng at its finest

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  42. Michoacan is and will always be run by Michoacan Cjng can never take it only way is to create truce and alliance 50/50 zetas lost it quick before that Valencia controlled and others zetas left extortion and all that craps before that didn't exist Michoacan will always be controlled be Michoacan

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  43. Going to Michoacan in December with my family. I'm 29 and have yet to visit. From what I understand we will be visiting our family rancho in La Nopalera. Has anyone heard of it? I'm honestly scared as hell, because of the things going on in Mexico. I don't care who you are, anyone would be scared of being shot, stabbed, beheaded or robbed. Maybe I should pass on the opportunity, but then again I will be out there with numerous members of my family. Uncles and cousins. Any advice would be appreciated thanks..

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