Sunday, May 10, 2015

A reported non-agressional pact between "Mayo" Zambada and El 'Mencho' in Jalisco

Lucio R. Borderland Beat

La Jornada, a national newspaper in Mexico, is reporting a non-aggression pact between Nemesio Oseguera “El Mencho”, leader of Cartel Jalisco New Generation CJNG, and Ismael El Mayo Zambada leader of Sinaloa Cartel.

Supposedly, the pact is for the two organized Crime Groups,  to maintain control of their areas of operation and agree  not to enter the territory of each other,  in places like Juárez, Chihuahua; Tijuana, Baja California, and  San Luis Río Colorado, Sonora.

If true, it is a practical solution between the two groups, once in a true alliance, but of late that has been reduced to pacts between regional cells of the Sinaloa and CJNG.

What is noticeably different with Los Cuinis and CJNG, they have gripped command of their organization to remain within the Oseguera and Valencia families.  This is to avoid the same downfall of other criminal groups, who appointed regional commands, which evolves into leadership disputes and splinter groups.

If such a pact exists, it would extend the protection of both criminal groups, and allow intelligence to flow between them.

What is known is Mencho is a proficient strategist, who prefers to avoid conflict where possible.  He does not fight for a share in the US drug market, and seemingly enters intelligent agreements.
Map created by Victor Sanchez (Animal Politico) 4 months ago

Mencho is originally from Michoacán, and he has long targeted control of his home state.  

With the rise of Los Viagras in Michoacán, the first and only  Caballeros Templarios splinter group, he recognized opportunity. It is also feasible he designed the opportunity, as he long maintained a close personal relationship with the Sierra Santanas.

When the federal government appointed Alfredo Castillo as Michoacán security chief, Castillo's  goal was to destroy the “autodefensas”.  That inadvertently (or not), only served to assist Mencho, and his goal of controlling Michoacán.

The appointment of El Americano, an ally of Viagras and Mencho, as one of the 4 chiefs of the federally generated “Rurales”,  augmented CJNG's  growing control of Michoacán. 


He no longer had to be concerned with Templarios or its leaders, the federal government was assuring the Templarios cartel was destroyed or greatly compromised.

90 comments:

  1. Ba ver otro cartel en Michoacan pa sacar los de Jalisco

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    1. And you know this by what source? O solo te haces chaquetas mentales?

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    2. Los jefes de jalisco son de michoacan compa, asi que es la misma mierda si llega a controlar cjng o otro grupo michoacano

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  2. Mencho scared of mayo ?

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    1. Mayo has been in this game for decades...he has more money and more contacts in the mexican goverment...and his smart...his from el alamo sinaloa ajuuaa

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    2. El mayo zambada would crush mencho.. If I really wanted to do it. Everyone knows El mayo is El jefe.

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    3. No it is out of respect. CJNG and Mayo's factions have enough on their plates and they both don't need conflict.

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    4. Mayo scared of mencho? Sees mencho gaining territory and knows that he is too old to fight back? All of his sons are in jail except for el flaco, whom is in his mid 20's and not ready to assume control of his fathers empire, so he doesnt want any beef right now? Think boy think

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    5. Mencho is scared because he messed it all up mencho ain't gaining territory ? Or do you still believe that cjng put those mantas in b.c ? Everyone knows jalisco is a free state and who built Puerto Vallarta el Chapo did mayo will crap on mencho I'm pretty sure mencho called for that truce.

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    6. El mayo is the god father just like el azul mencho ni le llega alos talones everyone thinks menchos the shizz because he knocked a heli and ambushed some soilders and federales and burned gas stations and banks guess what they do that in tamualipas zetas and cdg been doing that don't get your panties in a wad.

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    7. if sinaloa wanted to take over they would of already but truth is they cant cjng is way too deep already theyre gaining a lot of southern mexico and that shit counts...a few years before he was this strong he started killing chapos people in guadalajara so chapo pulled out period shit aint ever been the same for sinaloa in jalisco....

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    8. Jovanny you know nothing about Guadalajara obviously

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    9. Guadalajara is an open territory Jovany. Sinaloa still operates there. Chapos people still operate in Puerto Vallarta. Sinaloa never took Jalisco when they were stronger because they're focus is the border states. Guadalajara is of financial importance to the cartels especially CDS to launder money and you still need operatives to make sure that money just don't magically disappear or get jacked. Know the big picture playa.

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  3. Embicel he posted la jornada!listo Para bajar bandera!metiche a Tu cueva mangerita .mr.castaway go talk to your frind Wilson and argue with him all day

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  4. Mayo could be setting a trap...after all the government works for the Sinaloa Cartel...not for el mencho...this could be the beginning of the end for mencho...

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    1. This dude read my mind.

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    2. It's 2 June... Looks like El Mayo set some very effective "traps"....

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  5. Hell no .. jalisco sera el numero uno en todo.
    tenemos el tekila, al canelo, el mariachi, vicente, putos michoacanos k tienen a don cheto nomas asta pa ablar valen ve....
    ke onda vali...
    ke no escuchan como cuentan los michoacanod cagados onci,doci,treci,catorci,quincci

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    1. Mencho es michoacano y es el jefe de cjng, pendejo.

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    2. Hijo de tu reputa madre el mencho es de michoacan

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    3. Por si no sabias, los jefes en Jalisco son de michoacan, sin ellos no tubieran poder imbecil

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    4. compa yo soy del valle de cuidad Juarez chihuahua ayi Si Ay gente De huevos en todo Chihuahua Ay gente asi eh andado Por muchas partes especial en Phoenix az eh Conocido sinaloences durangenses michoacanos sonorences y de los mas habladores fanfarones y culos son los sinaloas y los sonorences ni ellos se kieren los mas cabrones son los Chihuahua y durangos los chapitos michuacanos ni se diga tambien y los de tamaulipas esos son los estados mas cabrones Si t topas a aun sinaloa hablador es puro perro k ladra y arriva el valle de Juarez Chihuahua gente corriente puro caseta para ser esactos mi michoacanos y jalisco Durango tamulipas Si se juntan el gobierno no podria con ellos

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    5. Thats rigth bro puro jalisco i sinaloa all the way

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    6. Pinche vatito pendejo.
      Mencho es michoacano
      Tambien el canelo.
      Jalisco es controlado por MICHOACANOS

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    7. Tatatatatamaulipas!!!!!!! Puro Control Tamps..

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    8. el Que es hablador eres tu compa 5:44pm

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    9. Muy siert, los sinaloas muy abladores. pior que las comadres lol

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    10. keep hating lol

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    11. Why do Mexicans hate each other so much just because they are from different states. You don't see this in other countries unless they are different ethnicity.....

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    12. 8:43pm
      And your evidence, sources is? I've seen this type of hate from other countries, in Indian forums, Russian... it's "hate" only on the surface so don't take to much to heart, these comments are not the reflection of the population as a whole.

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    13. --Mexicans just love a pissin' contest, it is not real hate.
      --On the us there is all kind of crap talking among men, among the races, or the sexes, no problem...

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  6. Prefers to avoid conflict? NO SE NOTA

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  7. ARRIVA LA GENTE NUEVA

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    1. La Gente nueva is chapos armed wing in chihuahua and another faction in Durango. Wrong organization bro, I think u mean nueva generation. Unless u meant the latter which has nothing to do with this post.

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    2. Pura Gente Nueva! X7 y X9.....55

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  8. This could be a smart move. Also what happened to the other Mencho article?

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  9. Soy colombiano i sinaloa es como medellin colombia donde estan los mas berracos i cualquiera ora i quien sea le dan plomo parceros son la cuna de los grandes capos ese tal mayo es como el padrino

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    1. Los mas berracos en Medellin? Quien? Alvarito Uribe?? Los hijos tarrados del viejo Fabio? Que risa.

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  10. Cjng coming up, cdsnitches is scared because they are growing fast. call the marina to take them out, but before that lets make a non aggression pact with mencho so he won't come after us lol

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    1. You must be new haha mayo zambada has been in the game for over 30 years he has had way bigger enemy's then this fly know as el mencho Los Arellano couldn't top and Los Beltran couldn't either you think this sack of shit can because he brought down a helicopter and controls a few places in Jalisco and michocan, He's way in over his head they don't have enough people to bring it to CDS. Hagan cuenta de mafiosos Sinaloa esta presente. Es la verda viejon pónganse en línea

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    2. Los Arêtes no se LA cumplieron porke tu kerido se les eskondia al oyir el apellido. Ramon llegaba personalmente a Sinaloa/culiacan junto con lino Arturo Fabian y merardo pa ke mire Como operaban eso senorones viejon y tu kerido en chinga en el primer vuelo asta la kinta verga lol. ESA accion dise mucho de lo ke en realidad es tu kerido.y simon tu kerido tiene una muy Buena amistad con LA DEA o los gabachos por eso esta donde esta Nada ke ver kon su Avilidad. Es la verda viejon pongase en linea. Atte. Nothingbutfacts.

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    3. not new, that's why I know how cartel de sinaloa work. just snitch on ohercartels

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    4. Y los aretes adonde quedaron ? El mayo vivito y coliando mijito

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    5. Ahi andan tenten en tj/Cali mi compa. Y simon Como te dije no me sorprendo de tu kerido.

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    6. Estamos mal pariente

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    7. Estamos!?... Estas mi compa.. Yo ando bien firmes x aca.

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    8. @3:06. You got it right.

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  11. La Jornada is usually wrong when writing about narcos, I would take this with a grain of salt, huge one at that.

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  12. @1:07 really more government connects did u see how he just got away all government help he don't need of anybody's connects

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  13. I hope is true because you dont hear cjng and cds doing shit loke kidnappings , extortions and shit like that i mean lets be honest at the end someone is going to be in charge of the drug buissness and well i hope is the ones that dont really like to mess with normal average people.

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    1. Oh really May 10, 2015 @3:45pm. What about when CJNG kidnapped, murdered then dumped all the bodies of innocents on the streets in Veracruz claiming they were Zetas? Or the CDS cell that was kidnapping, extorting and raping women in south Chihuas? You have to trust that all cartels are the same scum but some don't shit on their own turf. It doesn't mean they are saints it's just means they are trying to keep their secrets hidden from the public.

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    2. @3:45 you get the point
      El Chuyin from la linea/cdj was a really good guy towards the innocents he helped them alot but supposed his group murder innocents and all these cds fanboys say cds doesn't do that when they had in el valley del juarez and other parts of Chihuahua

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  14. Can these guys get rid of alll the shitty cartels who kidnap people and kill innocents then get back to business like the old days were there was more respect between mafia and civilians

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    1. I wish the same there will always be drugs and those who control.the market with this been said i realize that there will be a group at end controling the buisness but i hope this group dont fuck with the average citizen like back in the days was.

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  15. Coming in here and reading the comments on this page might be dum for some but its a good source of info just to kinda understand what's going on...i remember it might have been in 2006-07 it was reported on some page before el blog Del narco l,or bb that lazcano,lazcano z3 was gunned down by the army in Veracruz protecting 3tons of cocaine the government gave him for dead,..that came to a shock for me since I'm from Matamoros shit like that affects us but nothing happend ..well my point is after I read this peace of article i just scroled down and read the comments you some said some dum shit others where congratulating the gov for its work but one came to my attention just one out of lets say say 50,someone posted that lazcano wasent dead that he was in some ranch in Coahuila state doing just fine that he just had been there hunting whit him riding on some brand new dodge ram and said how much lazcano loved going zaffarie hunting in his land and said that he had a hole lots of zebras lions and all this exotic animals in his ranch,I was like what a fucking liar how can that be if this page apparently said he was dead el "verdugo muerto" and the Mex gov was like yes he is dead but we all now know better now don't we...o by the way all these came to mind when i saw lazcanos pic whit a hunting riffle posing whit a zebra ..

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    1. I hate los setas and their dirty deeds, but I pray to God that el lazca will have a third coming, his boss, protector and puppet master miguel angel osorio chong would have a lot to 'esplain'...
      --just as he has a lot of properties stolen from when he was governor of hidalgo, and more since he is with epn, but in his wife's name...

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  16. This is nothing new. Believe it or not there is a non-aggression pact with BLO, Juarez and even the Zetas no lie. Who cares what the haters say. It's been a long time since Matazetas and Zetas have had an armed engagement. There is no money in warring with other cartels. Don't be surprised now that Chapo is incarcerated that CDS makes a truce with a lot more groups. Mencho will only fight those geoups who won't allow him to take full control of Michoacan. Just watch.

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    1. Everybody better stick it to the mexican armies from all corners, their lives are at stake while the soldiers only have a scrawny paycheck to fight for...

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  17. Ok. So CJNG was CDS's armed wing and now going independent, sounds like the Zetas and CDG. CJNG was the violent fraction of CDS, i'm sure CDS does not want no beef with their ex-body guards. Think about it. The only people who will not agree is people from Sinaloa, their allways in denial when it comes to the drug game.

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    1. Cjng was never cds armed wing. They are close because of nc. Plus cds funded them when they got their start. Cjng is and has always been its own cartel.

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    2. In this page its mostly mexicans in the USA ...people from sinaloa dont migrate to USA they stay in their state ...people from guanajuato have the biggest community in usa after is the michoacanos...the ones the comment here are mangueras wannabe chinolas

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    3. come to phoenix, all you see is people from sinaloa

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    4. 8:25 i live in phoenix theres sonorense but no sinaloenses...

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    5. Phx is so naco that everyone there wants to be from sinaloa even the american born kids that have sinaloa roots but weren't even born there think there sinaloense just because there family is from there someone from sinaloa is born there and raised there there's a lot of nuthuggers in phx and a bunch of nacas who think there either from durango sinaloa or Chihuahua these narco corridos got these kids turnt to the max it has them beliving there from el rancho or they have estilo italiano but they think estilo italiano is a dress shirt a ugly colored vest and some levis with dress shoes or jeans a belt suspenders and a dress shirt it's got these people ridiculous don't get me started on the older people who Have no Idea what corridos mean they just hear money viejas jalar la banda zapatillas dolce gabanna and some stupid stuff and it has these youngsters and older people feeling like there the narcos there singing about.

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    6. 11:00 you know nothing then

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    7. Yeah come to denver puto.....my dad was sinaloense and my mom is blonde haired and blue eyed white from minnesota.......there are a lot of people like me in my generation and u r ignorant for saying that....i think the majority of the population of mexicanos r from chihuahua......nothing but love para toda la raza de chiwas, dgo, zac city y Sinaloa!!!! Arriva Guasave!!!

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    8. Hell ya aki en Denver y todo Colorado Pura Raza de Chihuahua !!
      Y puro K-Z Y todo el Valle de Juarez

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    9. Haha it's true Colorado is full of chihuahuenses because most of my friends are from Chihuas and just one friend from guanajuato... New Mexico is also full of raza de chihuahua

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  18. Mayo is the biggest jefe in mexico. Who has the power. Hahahaha.

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    1. The government has the power menso

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    2. Wha? Bahahaha!!!

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  19. I dont think cds and cjng have a pact anymore according to a video i whach i youtube el mencho supposelly says that cds is paying the federal.gov to destroy cjng.

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  20. Menchos end is near , it wont last this year.
    Now you want a truce. Remember when rafa asked you for a favor, you took his money and told him to fuck off remember mencho? Now you want a truce with cds? Rafa says its too late now, you tought he didnt have power as hes been in prison so many years, but remember hes the rightful owner of guadalajara cartel. And real capo. You didnt see that coming didnt you?. Payback is a bitch says R1. Hes backed up from sinaloa and his family, you nothing but a arturo beltran daring the goverment and youll end up like him. Cause you born with big balls and die with big balls, remwmber this money can give you balls, but without money youll loose big ballsgyadalajara was my city i built it along with miguel and neto it has been the second place we al had to roam free culiacan beign firstamd guadalajara you fuck that place up. For the rest of us ... Payback ots a bitch mencho now pay the consequensess. And tell your people to stop kidnaping inocents wr wont allowed that in guadalajara. Now you are scared like a bitch mencho, you tought dissing me was ok? You just watch. Desde la sierra de sinaloa.

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    1. u write shit like u know shit!! idiot!! go back to playing video games and reading shit on here that people think they know or somebody told them that somebody told them! 9-10 people dont know shit in here!

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    2. he might just be rafael caro quintero! lol
      naw I doubt it...but its funny when people get on here and act like a real life narco jajajajajajajaja!!!

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    3. @9:27 what are you on kid? You talk like you know the people personally what the hell is wrong with you. At the end of the day you don't know shit about that world just like the rest of us, we can only give our opinion about certain topics but you take it to the fucken extreme keyboard warrior. You won't see this until around 3:30pm when you get out of school but dam man you are a complete dumb ass.

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    4. jose lopez we all know you love mencho.

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    5. CJNG does not extort or kidnapp. Jalisco citizens won't let it. Buissnesses don't pay extortion money. So yes I guess CJNG has fucked this place up.

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    6. Why is it people in Jalisco are happy there is a strong Military presence in the ranchos?

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  21. Todos los pendejos q opinan aki y q se creen narcos chinguen a su madre perros malditos cerebros de mierda

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  22. The thing that I would love to get some insight from u guys at BB is on the whole talk about ISIS on our border. I just feel like Why in the heck would people think that some cartels, especially Zetas and CDS would allow them to try and infiltrate through there? Obviously the cartels know that ISIS would try and cause mass destruction to US cities which would destroy drug routes and organizational structure, why would they allow that if they need the continuation of US drug purchasing, extortion, and human trafficking in order to maintain their cash flow and continue being cartels? Please shed some light on this subject, any opinions are good opinions to us.

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    1. ISIS and the Zetas have a common denominator: US trained, armed & financed. The Zetas turned on their gringo masters, supposedly... There was talk, also, of the Zetas carrying out mercenary work in Syria, last year. Who knows?! One thing for sure-- they're all scumbags.

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  23. For instance, this pact between the two cartels, I feel like they gotta be indivduals that love mexico, for one thing it being thier home, and another thing gaining emense wealth through it, that being said I dont feel like they would just sit back and allow ISIS motherfuckrrs to come and disrupt everything they got going. From drug routes to the cash flow that returns to Mexico. I just feel like they would blow ISIS out the water if they tried to set up around there!

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  24. Some readers hate the govt. Some hate cartels. But lately it seems readers hate each other more! What's up with that?

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  25. To all the CJNG nuthuggers they're only being heard of now because CDS and Golfos have a lot of infighting withing the cartels. CJNG don't control any border plazas. Once the infighting within CDS is decided the families from Sinaloa which there is hundreds in the game on a heavyweight scale will get together, put aside their differences and make a move to control mexico again. Same could be said about the Golfos

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    1. not!! they gonna keep fighting,everybody wants to be the boss!! CDS are a bunch of rats,evrrybody knows that!! cjng gonna keep knocking down choppers! when have u ever heard chapo do that? he's a puss!!

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    2. Ya wey pidele matrimonio al mencho

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  26. Mencho tiene parecido a pedro de Napoleón dinamite

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  27. Caro quintero es el jefe va limpiar a todos los chapos y kienes esten con el.
    Simplemente tiene a los beltranes a la marina al cjng siempre a sido el jefe el chapo es traitor

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