Friday, May 1, 2015

7 reported killed: blockades and violence in jalisco amid rumors of possible El Mencho capture

Lucio R. Borderland Beat-Big thanks to BB readers on the ground sending in information and video special thanks to Valhalla

updates on second page


Amid rumors of the possible capture of   Nemesio Oseguera Ramos (El Mencho), Jalisco has exploded with violence, including shootouts, property torching, and the downing of a military helicopter.

There have been reports of more than 30 narco blockades from Guadalajara, Jalisco to the coast, including Puerto Vallarta.  Other reports are saying the violence has spilled over to Colima and Guanajuato. There are reports of blockades and burning vehicles in the Colima municipalities of Cuauhtemoc, Tecoman and Manzanillo. In Leon, Guanajuato, the Los Darios  and other regional newspapers reported on cars torched on highways.

From the information known at this time, there was a federal operation that began today in Jalisco, “Operation Jalisco”, a federal spokesman said the goal was to “clean up Jalisco and  to arrest all the leaders of this cartel” (they refrain from naming the cartel but it is CJNG).

That set off a wave of violence across the south west half of Jalisco. Confirmed is a total of 7 being killed. The attacks by CJNG included 4 major shootouts, in a highly coordinated effort by the cartel.

 CJNG members have high jacked trucks and buses across Jalisco on the main corridors, and set them ablaze to create the 30 roadblocks (narco blockades) in 20 municipalities.  Fires have been set to dozens of buildings causing a severe shortage of emergency responders. 


Security video from inside bus as it is being torched:




The video above is reported as being in Puerto Vallarta, you can see men tossing accelerant from buckets onto Banorte Bank and setting it afire, as the building to the right burns. 



The state government closed 150  gas stations due to 10 being set afire. 

Although authorities asked citizens to remain inside their homes, many people were travelling on highways due to the three day holiday.

The government did not comment on who they were targeting in the operation but it goes without saying the bulls eye target would be El Mencho, premier leader and founder of CJNG (Cartel Jalisco New Generation).  

Click on image to enlarge map 

CJNG has been a popular topic of reporting in both Mexico and the U.S. as of late, due to their powerful and rapid rise in prominence. A capture of such a powerful capo would be a feather in the cap of President Peña in this election season.  Additionally it would be a retaliation effort stemmed by the ambush last month by CJNG that left 15 state  police killed in the balance.

This much retaliation by organized crime is usually reserved subsequent to significant captures, which is why the rumor of Mencho’s capture is a reasonable assumption.



A BB reader wrote in that Mencho may have been captured in Tonaya, which is 3 hours south of Guadalajara.  The shooting of the helicopter was reported as being 3 hours south of Guadalajara as well. This is speculation; we have not heard anything confirming an arrest of Mencho or anyone else.


UPDATES

It is now 7:30PM, and chances are getting slim that there has been a capture of El Mencho or any other significant figure.  What would have been a major CJNG upheaval by the feds, looks like it was a colossal failure with consequences of; loss of life, injuries, enormous waste of resources, and immense loss of property.


Social media has been commenting for a couple of hours that police knew where Mencho was and attempted to capture him at that location, but that he was able to evade capture by fleeing the area.

Authorities have not weighed in so speculation continues. They have however confirmed the “criminal element” is CJNG. 


 I am grateful for the clarification, it was such a puzzlement.



Quadratin reports that police and political sources say Mencho was captured and the shootout in Tonaya was the result of defensive action by CJNG to prevent the capture, the  helicopter attack was a part of that conflict.  Note: Keep in mind this has not been officially confirmed


Spread into Michoacán

The narco-blockades that occurred in Jalisco spread yesterday afternoon into Michoacán.
Cars were set on fire and on  the Autopista México-Guadalajara (highway) on the Michoacán side .
According to police, armed, masked men were carjacking vehicles to use in the blockades or to incinerate.

The cars were placed in the area that divides the municipalities of Vista Hermosa and Tanhuato, on the border with the municipality of La Barca, Jalisco.


Governor Sandoval 

Just before 7 this evening Aristotle Sandoval, the Governor of Jalisco gave these stats from the violence of today.  No other details were shared.
  • 39 Roadblocks
  • 25 Municipality involved
  • 4 clashes
  • 19 arrested
  • 7 dead
  • 19 wounded including 13 federal forces
  • 26 Public transportation routes affected
  • 12 Highways affected
Among businesses set afire all with accelerant :
  • 10 Banks
  • 12 Gas stations
  • Scores of buses and atumobiles
  • Fire stations (no number reported)
  • And other places of business 


He wants it known that all is quiet now and under control.  He also stated the preemptive operation will continue the entire weekend.

Footage from Jalisco







133 comments:

  1. I said this 5 hours ago. Mencho and his littunent.

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    1. How did you know?

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    2. Just did lets see when they confirm it.

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  2. Legalize
    And send in the USA millitary
    They would laugh at these tactics
    Sniperone.

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    1. But dont they get trained by them i mean DOLLAR. But yea legalize!

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    2. Righ, send in the US military, as if we need another mindless war to be involved in and country to occupy.

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    3. This could be over in 48 hrs
      Especially with the intell
      Problem is and always has been money!

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    4. Amen.US military would crush these guys.

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    5. 5:05 is right, we dont need another mindless war. But let me ask you this @3:55....if it was legalized like you suggest, why in the world would we need to send in the military? Stick to COD online snipernone.

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    6. I say all the countries agree to just bomb it like Japan and the atomic bomb. Total waste at this point. It is getting worst and worst. Everyone will say"How could you?" Well it appears the cartels will not stop until everyone is gone anyway. Bring down this group another grows. Don't send in any other country's military, Just bomb it up. A joint effort by the UN.

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    7. Um... You do realize that some of these guys were trained by the US military right?

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    8. Your belief that the US military is all high and mighty is funny. How do you think they will beat the cartels who are well funded and obviously have military grade weapons? You can't win a war when your fighting insurgents which is exactly how there cartels who are itching to kill US soldiers would do. Roadside bombings and also russia has offered to help with weapons even cartels in any way. Get out of here with your US military propaganda.

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    9. Clearly you have not served with the US military in combat operations. And yes, I have.

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    10. Don't say the US military is good to fight they are the same as the local polices and gangueros, just brave when they fight 40 officers vs 10 guys...

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    11. @8:04pm
      I have too and we left a working government in Iraq with a civil war b/t Sunnis and Shias. The Christians, Jews, and other mi notifies were safer b/f we sent in thousands of 17-20 yr olds commanded by 22-26 yr olds. The CDS would kill us off like flies just like the Taliban cave men did on their turf.

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    12. Just legalize drugs and all that bullshit ...well stop

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    13. All these people who are saying they served and this and that. All the complaining and insulting the armed forces. Stop complaining and take it to your "Commander and Chief." I thought not. Then shut up and do what you enlisted to do. American citizens would get bashed for insulting any of you and so should you!. Perhaps the only wrong doing by the military is accepting any of you guys.

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    14. @7:29 PM You said, "Your belief that the US military is all high and mighty is funny. How do you think they will beat the cartels who are well funded and obviously have military grade weapons?"

      Did you ever see the line of destruction the day Saddams forces tried to leave Kuwait with their "military equipment"? Not AK 47's. Tanks, armored personnel carriers, anti aircraft weaponry. Over 100,000 men died that day. Every piece of military equipment was destroyed.
      Yes, when the gloves come off, the US military is awesome beyond your capacity to even imagine. That was 15 years ago. Now they can do the same thing from an office chair while simultaneously sipping coffee and "liking" funny cat pictures on Facebook.

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    15. 6:30 Before our commander in chief started his wars of conquest, Arab Springs, and wars of liberation to help neo-nazis recover Ukrainia from nobody, the US lost wars on: korea, cuba, vietnam, laos, cambodia, nicaragua, panama, ecuador, bolivia, argentina, chile, peru, guatemala, el congo, colombia, el salvador, honduras, uruguay, paraguay...
      --CHINA and their slave communist labor...
      --They also lost wars on iraq, iran, afghanistan, libya, egypt, lebanon...
      --the war against drugs...
      --against amerikkkan corporate welfare queens
      --against drug laundering banks and business and their "executives"...
      --this accelerating pace of losing wars, indicates a cancer that having undergone
      metastasi, is now eating and corroding all that the US represented/used to be...
      --And all before our current cheif executive commander in chief even started smoking pot with the intent of inhaling...
      --irregardless of how many qualified soldiers and their excellent weapons and training the US puts on the ground to die and get maimed...
      --Thank the US chickenhawks and their corporate welfare enterprises...

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    16. 3:30 AM This goes back to many Presidents from both political parties, mainly Bush. Not sure from you comment if you were or are military/ But if that is the case, why did you enlist in something you strongly disapprove of? The military has been doing what it has for years. It is nothing new. So was it because you thought you could get some money? or Because you are otherwise useless in a general workforce? Also stop blaming Presidents for everything. Your Congress is just as much to blame. I am sure many of the screw ups you voted into office. So in a way you are to blame as well!

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    17. I have never voted until obama, I carried about 6 votes for him, none of them dead or resuscitated, I have never been in the military except for military service in mexico, AND that was more than many powerful amerikkkan chickenhawks have done for their country, also I supported my son's military service to the US in iraq, and all of those that want to serve...
      --I do not support private military contractors that make billions of dollars off the conflicts they create and the victims of their wars...

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    18. I have only served in the Boys Scouts and from my vast knowledge and understanding of nature I believe these CJNG characters can easily be defeated. I honestly believe my former Scouts and myself could easily rid Mexico of these cartel vermin. All we would need is three days worth of food, a Swiss Army knife and a spoon then it's game over. They wouldn't know what hit them. I swear on my Scout's honor!!

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    19. I support all Vets, Thank you for ur service

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  3. I would like to aknowledge a right to an opinion.
    El presidente EPN esta un cohoots.
    To him is a chess move. He is in all of this inasmuch as many a CIA oficial.

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    1. Epn is not in cahoots, he is a lackey, doing as told, and stealing all he can on the way.
      The seeds of revolution are burning, how many more little crisis can the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia stand?
      Jejejejejejejeee said the devil,

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  4. Actually this cartel's tactics are kind of intelligent. For one, would you vacation in Mexico knowing their government works with the cartels in illegal activities? This type of reaction from the cartels reveals that there are safety nets for tourists.

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    1. If i was a tourist, right now in Mexico...i'd be getting the hell up out of there! Trust me, the tourist industry has suffered greatly, over these past years. That's not the same Mexico, that so many visitors flocked to, on their long weekends...wish it were. Instead of avoiding a sunburn, visitors are avoiding bullets, kidnappings and rapes. I wouldn't depend on a "safety net"..I'd be depending on that next flight getting me away from there!

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    2. The mexican gov is one of the biggest cartels

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    3. That doesn't make any sense at all.

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    4. Nothing but a bunch of grown men throwing temper tantrums because they didn't get their way. EPN spanking them brats. Pobre!!!

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  5. Fast on the draw BB, great reporting as usual

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  6. pinche gob, they knew there is a holiday this weekend and they plan this knowing people will suffer? code red just caused more chaos

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    1. Sinko de Mayo, when the Aztecs sunk the ship loaded with Mayo...
      This is revenge of El otro Mayo, for the Cinco de mayo, like signing his magna opera, let it all burn to hell.
      --Lazaro Cardenas, helped quash the cristeros, but his commanders could not defeat them but by treason, they had to entice general Gorostieta to peace to murder him like they did zapata, and sandino, and Pancho Villa, president vicente guerrero, and president madero, porque en el topon, los federales no pudieron...

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    2. Bring you up to date 3:41
      1. Former President Cardenas expropriated land from Mexican citizens and the United States owned land in Mexico.
      2. Yale University Skull and Bones Secret Society is alleged for desecrating Pancho Villa's grave, stealing his skull and bones with evidence toward desecrating Geronimo's grave, stealing his skull and bones and artifacts too, introducing, carrying, and guiding politics with a hit of speed, or methamphetamine.
      3. Put a few blond haired and blue eyed girls into the mix in Mexico, and you have Mexicans entertaining themselves with no boundaries.
      4. Homemade informants in the United States are on the back burning for the gain of money and power, using their psych by all means to satisfy their ill behavior while giving UNintentional revenge to those forced out of Mexico and who are now scattered throughout the world not just one country.
      If Mexicans do not stop killing each other, Hispanics will remain a minority with Caucasians rather than a majority alongside the Asians predicted in twenty to thirty years. The Mexican border will remain closed in such a case unless annexed.
      When it comes to territory, the bottom line is it belongs to God. Dinosaurs were on earth before the human. Duh, it takes people to make a State and Government. In some if not most cases, land only belongs to the human when originally purchased from crooks.
      Pirates sink ships

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  7. I was waiting for these kids to get outta school so the comments can start yall fuckers dont know shit haha

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  8. they got mencho!

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  9. They did not catch Mencho.

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  10. That makes you so fuckin angry,how are these motherfuckers helping Jalisco,Mexico or her people?Innocent people and children riding these buses and these rats order them off and burn it?No one here can condone that shit?CJNG keep the plaza clean and safe.Get the fuck outta here..Hope CJNG get fucked.
    I hope CJNG get fucked..

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  11. ''pinche gob''What about the cartel who are burning buses and causin Cain?

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    1. That will show you, the cartels are much much more respected than el gobierno espurio de epn and his triple alianza de la tranza tricolor, "pri, pvem, panal" whose philosophy reads "con dinero baila el perro"...

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  12. Its funny how los tamaulipuercos are always shooting at militares but cant kill 1 and end up getting kill in jalisco when they do shoot up militarys they kill them just shows how smarth and well train CJNG is proximamente las plazas de tamaulipas son de el mencho

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    1. Na el mencho ain't controlling anything in Tamaulipas.

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    2. All you read is the news on the Internet but step foot in Tamaulipas and you'll hear about dead soldiers you didn't read on Internet.

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    3. Haha
      Don't make us laugh...Nectar Lima..will never will unless they Z and CJNG have an agreement.

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    4. Al 5;54 ya no oigas corridos alterados, hacen daño, ...... jaja al rato , vas a ir a reynosa, y vas a kerer k te agan un hijo tamaulipeco, pinche menso nuthugger ..... comete tu snakers * )

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  13. Let me guess...
    Mencho was captured.. CJNG is the most powerful cartel economically, that means Mencho must carry with him a really nice looking bag full of the worlds most persuasive government notes ....
    If they cought him.. He's free now

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    1. Becuase cjng ambushes them with like 100 guys
      In Tamaulipas is where the most soldiers had died
      No sabes nada baboso

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    2. Was for @5:54 sorry

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  14. BB kicking ass and taking names with the news como dise la marlene nos la pelannnnnnnnn....

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  15. Aver quien fue el que me dijo pendejo cuanso dije que el mencho was next after he broke the peace Caro Quintero offer him from the Mexican & American Government next in line is Tijuana Boss & then Damaso & Mayo will be the last dog to get capture.

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  16. BB do you have any details on the death of Marisol Torres daughter of JT?

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  17. Great. What do you do when you exhausted all cars and burned all the buildings? At that point there is no where to hide, nor is there anything thing to make a blockade/ Call these guys strong or whatever, but like all criminal groups, they too will either fall apart or be brought to a minimum. Worst than the stupid US riots. All because someone wants to sell drugs. Plain stupid. The ones doing all the fighting and being killed are small unimportant guys who have no clue as to who they are protecting or why they are in a shootout in the first place/ I bet their leader don't even know them. Too funny.

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  18. Stupid asses ambushed cops. What they expect? Fucking dumb assholes.

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  19. in USA the city of Baltimore was burning.
    In Mexico fire is everywhere.

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    1. It looks BAD when the police, militarized police, private security, national guards etc are defending the governments against their people's.In mexico or on the US...
      --pendejos can not see it because the nazi tea has them blind...

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  20. I wouldn't be surprised if Mencho did not look like the picture they have on him. All those big capos look nothing like the mugshot. Except for Tuta, no one can be uglier than him.

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  21. A Cómo le hace falta nachito coronel a jalisco, tenia ese estado trankilo de secuestros extorciones.. mencho no tenia ni los huevos pa ponerse al pedo con el viejon, esto apenas se va poner bueno, no por que el mayo este sólo quieran poner mantas en tijuana y gdl.. que vas acabar con la gente del tomate jajaj, le faltan huevos pa tumbar culiacan, pobres jotos vestidos de charros fueron y seguirán siendo los perros de los sinaloenses.. el águila sobrino de nacho coronel ya regreso por lo que es de el, todo jalisco... les falta mucho pa ser un señor de los cielos, un azul.. un mayo.. un nachito coronel..

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    1. Un pitote en to boca no sea lambe huevos y pongase a chambiar puro sinaloa!

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  22. No one in Mexico celebrates Cinco de Mayo. It's like us celebrating the battle of Gettysburg.. exactly no one does. It's unofficially a US holiday.

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    1. what the hell you talking about willis??
      who is talking about the 5th?
      if you are trying to appear so knowledgeable, and dare to be crtical of a poster talking about the holiday..

      YESTERDAY WAS LABOR DAY IN MEXICO....that is why they said it is a holiday weekend..it is a 3 day weekend.

      got it? now go grab a Tecate and get ready for your big cinco de mayo de gringo celebration...viva mexico....ay ay ay

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    2. Manic millie playin the goofy shit again.Gringos gringos eyee eyee,weird?

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    3. May 1st is a communist celebration all over the world...
      Tecate are best used as enemas, a gallon per treatment.

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    4. Lol! May Day was started by US labor unions to celebrate the working class. When other countries, to later include the USSR, began to celebrate it as a good idea, the US got pissy and changed it to September. It is now known as Labor Day.

      And now you know the rest of the story.

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  23. The people that work for them are all ex American Military and US trained.

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    1. baaaahahahahaa...Yeah. I'm sure those sicarios making 12000 pesos are ex Marines and Rangers lolololollolool.

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    2. Im sure he didnt mean ALL the sicarios Dumbass!!! But the ones that train em..dont assume shit right away..we all know most of these Sicarios are drug addicts n Cholos that aint got shit to lose..

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    3. lol. Fuck no dude. Maybe a handfull. There are plenty more Mexican ex military with way more finanical incentive to become cannonfodder than U.S. servicemen. Plus this dude DID say ALL...Do you even READZ brah?

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    4. 12.28
      No,he meant everyone one of them,honest he did,bellend

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  24. Can we go ahead and call this terrorism now?

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    1. 5:51 Can I have the last word for once some time? Damnit! I even had it posted in all caps...

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  25. Blocades happened not just in jalisco but colima, guanajuato and michoacan.

    Now that jalisco took control of michoacan.

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    1. And kool-ade on the US...

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  26. LOL at the guy lighting the bus on fire. I bet he lost a lot of hair. Is there any word on who the shootouts are between? Gov v/s cartel or cartel v/s cartel? And who are the 7 dead?

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  27. http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2015/05/01/reportan-bloqueos-con-vehiculos-incendiados-en-jalisco-6483.html

    Indicates that they located Mencho but he got away.

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  28. Everything happen because the leader of autlan was capture in the morning.. he is the 3 leader of cjng...
    trust me .. you ll see it in the news later...

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  29. Just like gang blockades in LA back in da day

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    1. Wth are you talking about? Lived in LA from 1976-til today. Never seen this kind of shit. Mejor callate el osico Menso

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    2. LoL, where in LA or any Americans city for that matter, did gangs throw up road blocks?

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    3. I have seen it too in the movies lol

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    4. Well @ 10:36 you really don't keep up on the news. Just last month in Chicago roadblocks were set up http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/04/01/chicago-robbers-appear-to-copy-mexican-cartel-roadblock-tactics/

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    5. that article was a a terrible attempt at blaming cartels for creating roadblocks. Read carefully it says, cartel like behavior-
      I don't read their stuff lots of hype and no substance but a reader sent it in saying "cartels creating roadbocks in chicago

      the tip off is that chi neighborhood ia 97% black population and the guys who did it were black.

      misinformation.

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  30. Confirmed by a pri candidate in Colima he was captured

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  31. Did he get captured yes or no anyone??????

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    1. No.
      We got Autlan
      Mencho escaped the raid

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  32. according to this video, he was captured. the guy in the video is Nacho Peralta, governor of Colima

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHKl6VCxF5U

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  33. Anyone knows what is going on in sonoyta, sonora? It is getting real hot over there.

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  34. Why the hell doesn't the gob just come out and say it isn't true that mencho is captured? How stupid they are, if it is false, say so.

    then there is this PRI Colima candidate announcing this (that Mencho is captured,

    Candidato del PRI informa detención de 'El Mencho', líder del Cártel Jalisco Nueva Generación

    http://www.sdpnoticias.com/nacional/2015/05/01/candidato-del-pri-informa-detencion-de-el-mencho-lider-del-cartel-jalisco-nueva-generacion

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  35. ps
    forgot to say to lucio, excellent job once again. you had BB trending at top of #Jalisco for a long time beating everyone. little BB that was until about midnight. still did great. #Jalisco was trending number 2 and 3 most of yesterday

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  36. I all ways ask my kids.if the USA invaded Mexico.sent the army and took over the country.would the Mexican people care are be glad.my family is very large and we all would welcome an invasion from the USA.

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    1. The mexicans, allied to or conquered by the US, will always be third class people with no citizen's rights, even on their own country, except for select rats in politics, just like now...

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  37. They didn't catch mencho I'm telling you im here in jalisco now AND WE ALL KNOW IT WASNT MENCHO!

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    1. coffe with the kardashiansMay 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM

      "we all know" you self important dork. Don't you think we are smart enough to figure it out chances are slim he was captured. Did you catch what EPN said? No I did not think so, because you are too busy speaking to your self.

      But I believe you, I really, really do, just like I am here in Calabasas and just had coffee with the Kardashians, and Kim K just told me her ass is fake but not to tell anyone. So keep it under your Jalisco sombrero and everything will be cool.

      code 10-33 from Calabasas

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    2. These people are delusional Calabasas

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    3. Oh ye,is it so hard to believe someone is in Jalisco?

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  38. What do you see in my hood, I see gangstas everywhere, everywhere. South Park Mexican

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  39. Cjng just keep digging their own grave. They are really fucked now.

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  40. They were not able to capture mencho he was able to get away

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  41. Mencho is NOT in custody and EPN's operation was a total failure.

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    1. Yes genius we have that figured out.

      Massive cost in lives and property, and CJNG proved themselves, as being a formidable foe, who yesterday were more organized, intelligent and effective than 2 fed agencies and 1 state agency who plan the operation and CJNG beat them at their own game.

      epn does not look happy "we will bring the criminal organization of Jalisco down. he can't even say their name. CARTEL JALISCO NEW GENERATION. He is probably thinking "shit, I should have listened to alfredo and left that carbon tuta in Michoacán to fight this sob.

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    2. Epn does not care about what happened in guadalajara but his bank account getting fatter , he is just doing politics okay ,

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  42. Side note the busses leAving Reynosa are getting pulled over by criminals outside of town and demanding money from passengers

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  43. CJNG are going to lose many fighters in the coming storm.

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  44. What is with all the name calling in the comments. Isn't everyone entitled to their opinion without someone firing back with insults? Grow up! Tired of it!! BTW great job bb

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    1. Some comments are that strange and imaginative you have to say something,as in life

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    2. 5:34 "tired" mejor callate güey...

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  45. Mi respeto para la gente da jalisco.. Eso si son de huevos y no andan como todos los carteles. El chapo los zetas los golfos y los carrilos no sirben pa nada.. Todos caen y su gente no ase nada. al contario se quisieron meter con mencho y pelearon le desmostraron al gobierno que con ellos no se metan. Fueron muy astutos serraron las entradas para que no entraran ni salieran nadie. Tumbaron un helicoptero esos son huevos..
    El chapo lo agarraron todos se escondieron y ademas su gente lo entrego
    Saludos desde tijuana para todos y especial ente para tijuano el de B.B

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    1. Si seguramente muy perron esta bien menchoo ahora si la van a poner cola el Chapo vale mas Que el mencho te lo aseguro.

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  46. news from today at this hour, now car burnings and blockades :

    http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=403057

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    1. is in puerto vallarta...PV

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    2. I checked PV regional papers and Jal media, what is was today is a couple of wanna bes that set the fires. actually only one set the two car fires, there were many witnesses, he acted alone. stirring up shit, yesterday wasn't bad enough, lets torture people further.

      mensos

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    3. Lol it's not mensos any more chivis its menchos

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    4. What about the cremeria or cheese and cream factory?

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    5. You can't trust any mexican media, that includes newspapers, radio and tv.
      Rumors may get confirmed and cleared later, but peña nieto deserves no credibility, he is at war against journalists and journalism, remember?

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    6. same...no related to cartel this is from the ground, not just taking word of authorities.

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    7. Not related to cartel? Was Guadalajara related? How do you know that??

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    8. That is not what I said. I was referring to only yesterday's fire of two cars and the cremory. it was local guy unrelated to narco. copy cat crime. this was supported by people who knew who he was. I know nothing more. But it would seem if they wanted the violence to continue and conflict with feds they would have chosen another area without fed forces already in place. Just a guess.

      as for sept 1, of course it was cjng. and they were ready and whip the ass of feds who were not prepared to have such a fight on their hands hopefully next time will be successful, third time is supposed to be a charm, right?

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  47. Lucio, great article and follow up, I will add that I believe it is wrong to categorize this as a failure. I question the words you chose "What would have been a major CJNG upheaval by the feds, looks like it was a colossal failure with consequences of; loss of life, injuries, enormous waste of resources, and immense loss of property." All of the above were not the consequences of the Feds action. They are 100% the consequences of the actions of the individuals who committed each act of destruction. EPN did not "make them do it". The police were doing their job.

    Here is an analogy. Cop tries to arrest two criminals. He arrests one, and the other criminal punches cop in face, breaks window on police car.
    Newscaster spins it as, " Colossal Failure by Cop Results in Injuries and Property Damage." The cops actions were determined first by the criminals. Thats the law. If you are a criminal, then someone HAS to go in and get you. Otherwise, what would be the point of laws.

    This was not a failure. They arrested 19 scumbags. Who knows how many more were killed. Who cares if they got some particular person or not. They are all interchangeable. They are all the same evil men. Eliminate them.

    The destruction is no ones fault but the persons who did the acts. To put responsibility on any other person or entity is very unfair and absolutely wrong.

    These Feds, (or whomever they were) went in and kicked ass to the best of their abilities. These men are fighting the greatest evil the world has ever known. They put in a hard days work, and they will be back tomorrow. Thats not failure my friend. That is how you eat an elephant.

    KUDOS to the BRAVE MEN who fought evil yesterday.

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    1. i just sent this to lucio he doesn't g back and read many comments. yours is a good one I think he will appreciate. But I can see you did not understand what he meant. Paz

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  48. That reminds me of la familia michoacana, too blood thirsty and violent against fors and including government officials and also the fastest growing cartel. Then they killed too much federales and took down 2 helicopters, after that calderon went hard on them but all it did was make that cartel split in ct and familia, viagras. Same thing is going to happen to this cartel.

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    1. Correct it just was way crazier in Michoacan

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  49. Doris Gómora, El Universal, published a timely article today, 10:25 Sunday 03 May 2015, entitled, "Mexico should go after politicians that help cartels: Buscaglia." Would recommend your readers to view it at,
    http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/in-english/2015/interview-edgardo-buscaglia-105174.html although it summarizes many of BB's contributors' views whom seem to be on the cutting-edge of news (congratulations on your collective and intelligent insights), so it is not new news but worthwhile reading.

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  50. The problem with Pena Nieto is that his citizens believe what he tells them.

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    1. 2:08 the problem of peña nieto is that no matter what, mexicans do not believe anything from him or his mouthpieces, because we know him for a murdering drug trafficking liar who steals from the mexican people...
      --And the mexicans' problem is that the US supports peña nieto's ass with weapons and gorillas (mexican military trained on The School of the Assassins) no matter what, to keep the banana republic in line with the other banana republics, peaceful and the slaves singing and dancing on the plantation, or watching soccer or telenovelas...

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  51. If Mayweather fought 364 times a year, we'd only have 1 day of violence.

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    1. Hahaaaaaaaaa fkn so true

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  52. I dislike Floyd Mayweather, but I can't deny that Manny let me down :(

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  53. The video of the fire bomb @ the Banorte in PV is @ 1512 Francisco Villa

    Google
    https://www.google.com/maps/@20.644382,-105.220522,3a,75y,332.31h,82.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6xYPmXxfgyT7rzat1hdh6A!2e0?hl=en-US

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    1. your link takes me to google map photos not a video, or am I reading your comment wrong? Lucio posted the video last friday up above on this post.

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  54. "EPN" IS GIVING THE NEWS...
    only because he is trying to scoop Carmen Aristegui and the other bola de chismosos, he knows his military fucked up this time, again...

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