Tuesday, April 14, 2015

Peeved Mexicans: “U.S. Agents will be armed as though they own the place”

By Lucio R. Borderland Beat- some material used from Luengas Noticias and WSJ


A then  president elect, Enrique Peña Nieto took a firm position of not allowing armed foreign agents.

At the time he said;

“I resolutely do not support the presence of armed U.S. agents in Mexico, but would consider allowing the United States to instruct Mexico's military training in counterinsurgency tactics.”

That was then.

Now, the Mexican Senate has approved the "initiative"of President Enrique Peña Nieto,  that would allow foreign agents to carry weapons within the territory of Mexico, arguing they contribute to tourism and immigration and customs control.

The representatives of the PRI political party, along with  the PAN and PVEM (green party),  gave the green light to the legislation, which senators of the PRD and PT (labor party) opposed.

Mexican Foreign Minister Jose Antonio Meade defended the measure, arguing that will contribute to greater integration of the region of North America.

However many Mexican’s and leaders alike, are not only leery about the initiative, some are damn  right peeved and outraged.  Like Senator Manuel Bartlett.

Taking the floor the senator’s prophecy is that the names of the senators who make up this term will go down in history "as an abject Senate that fulfilled the commands of the neighboring foreign power to flood our country of armed foreign agents".
U.S. Agent gives a thumbs up before boarding helicopter

U.S. Agents disguising themselves as Mexican Navy personnel

In a Wall Street Journal article published in 2013 and updated in November 2014, there was the following:

"U.S. Justice Department personnel are disguising themselves as Mexican Marines to take part in armed raids against drug suspects in Mexico, according to people familiar with the matter, an escalation of American involvement in battling drug cartels that carries significant risk to U.S. personnel. Both the U.S. and Mexican governments have acknowledged in the past that American law-enforcement agencies operate in Mexico providing intelligence support to Mexican military units battling the cartels. The countries have described the U.S. role as a supporting one only. 
In reality, said the people familiar with the work, about four times a year the U.S. Marshals Service sends a handful of specialists into Mexico who take up local uniforms and weapons to hide their role hunting suspects, including some who aren’t on a U.S. wanted list. They said agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Drug Enforcement Administration play a supporting role, in similarly small numbers."

The attack
"The risks became clear on July 11, 2012 when Mexican Marines and a handful of U.S. Marshals personnel dressed as Mexican Marines were fired on as they walked through a remote field in Sinaloa state. One American was shot and wounded, and in the gunfight that followed, more than a half-dozen suspected cartel soldiers were killed, according to people familiar with the incident. It is unclear whether U.S. Marshals personnel shot anyone.
Members of the FBI, DEA and Marshals Service met with a group of Mexican Marines in preparation for a Friday raid. The goal was to apprehend a senior member of Los Mazatlecos, a gang of enforcers with ties to the Beltran Leyva drug cartel.
A handful of Marshals specialists dressed themselves as Mexican Marines and took Marines weapons. As they and the Mexican Marines set off on foot, a small plane flown by a U.S. Marshals employee kept an eye on the target site, advising colleagues on the ground who in turn guided those on foot. DEA and FBI personnel remained a mile or so away in an armored vehicle, observing and advising.

The men walked through a field toward the site. As they approached a line of bushes, hidden gunmen opened fire. A U.S. Marshals employee with the rank of inspector was shot in the arm and fell. A Mexican Marine rushed to carry him to safety and was also hit. Then another shot struck the American in the torso. 
After the firefight, the wounded American was airlifted to a hospital in Culiacán, where he was kept under guard until he could be moved to a hospital in San Antonio."

Read the full WSJreport by Devlin Bartlett link here

215 comments:

  1. The U.S. owns Mexico who are we kidding.

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    1. They only think they do.

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    2. They own the world

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    3. Mexicans themselves have created the sewer that is Mexico, but they still keep whining all day long.

      Give this a chance; if it does not work then ask them to leave. I hope parameters are in place for quantifiable accurate measurements.

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    4. yeah but china owns the USA

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    5. Not true.. USA is only trying to help...

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    6. so cant wait till an American gets killed and all hell will break lose!!. love seeing American agents/ cops being killed.

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    7. What if i told you the american were actually mexicans in disguise as americans just to fool the narcos??

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    8. USA OPENING MEXICO'S ASS TO BE STRIP MINED...
      --LIKE A TWO DOLLAR CRACK HO'S, or la gaviota's
      --except mexicans will get dos pesos, but not all of them
      Give it a chance, to integrate the NorthAmericas...
      Yeah, we are going to have american accountants hiding the spoils of the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia, fighting to save their ass, killing the protestors face to face instead of murdering and disappearing them in the middle of the night...the border fences and walls will be torn down, and mexicans allowed full integration with American minimum wages at the very least, yeah yeah yeah...smells like sulphur...

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    9. Haters will never see the u.s.a fall, not even theyre grandchildren will see.

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    10. @ April 14

      Sure. Maybe they can send in Blackwater (oops, sorry, I mean Xe, er Academi) to shoot up civilians in the Zocalo in Mexico City. The US really helped Iraq (fall into the arms of Iran) and the stability of the middle east.

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    11. Thousands of more Mexicans are going to get slaughtered! But let's face it Mexico is out of control with this cartel b.s. Navy SEALS will have many missions in Michoacan, Tamaulipas, and Jalisco just watch and see

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    12. You are free to especulate lol

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    13. another war the US has no business in, leave the Mexicans alone

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    14. They do have a business down there. It shares borders with the USA!! if things get outta control there who you think is gonna be the next to feel the consenquences.? If the things in mexico keep getting worse, mx is gonna become a communist nation but under total control of the USA. They are not going to have other choice but to put order down ther. Just watch

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    15. Cant wait for call of duty: mexican ops to come out. Maybe we can play as el broly online.

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    16. @ 1:37 ok well since Canada shares borders with u.s, does the u.s alow Canadians drive around with guns and all in the u.s business, drugs into Canada are through the u.s so I guess they have a good excuse right?

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    17. Do you really want to go there and have that argument 11:42pm? Have you even researched whether Canadian Agents can do the same? If you are paying attention to the article you would know that these armed agents will be assisting Mexican Customs at specific places. What if EPN begged for the assistance because of horrible tourist numbers? If it was up to me I would ban all Americans from traveling to Mexico unless you are visiting family. If you have no family there you can't travel there. Just deal with the facts and not the speculations.

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    18. 1:37 communism does not exist anymore pendejo...
      Becoming taliban, al-qaeda, or sompim' martyr is where it all is, islamofascism is the enemy now, the devil itself created them, The US, creator of ISIS/ISIL WITH HELP FROM ISISRAEL...

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    19. 12:34 Communism still exists is several countries. Stop spewing ignorant rhetoric especially since you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

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    20. 2:01PM

      NO, communisn DOES NOT exist and a true communist country hasn't either. The countries you allude to are only communist on paper.

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    21. I will agree that "on paper" communist countries that do exist are full of communist captive slave laborers, but the only one challenging the US is north Korea with their. Cardboard ICBM

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    22. 11:15 & 4:59 Stop the fence straddling…There ARE communist countries still in existence and not just on paper.

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  2. It's ok if Mexicans run around with guns killing each other,,that's ok..But we don't want''gringos''with guns,,even if they are police,,ok..

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    1. you just thake the pill, don`t cry baby, it will do good for you..

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    2. --Narcos run around killing, with US furnished weapons...
      --The mexican police, military and paramilitary run around mexico murdering mexicans, kidnapping and imprisoning them at gun point, with US provided guns
      --the US provides weapons,Training, intelligence, anti"insurgency" tactics and disinformation to the mexicans' worst enemy, their own government, imposed by the US, the very same drug trafficking money laundering victim of its own drug trafficking money laundering oligarchs and vulture capitalistas...
      --Not all mexicans are the same, that statement is a fucking LIE 2:18 and you are stretching your half truth to justify some big bullshit to kiss american ass, enjoy...

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    3. I don't get it.Im neither American nor Mexican but why wouldn't you want help when its denied by your own government?.I think this will keep the corruption down and the protection less so guess its a very real threat to the corrupt ones.Rememer Harry D that American biker that got slaughtered by the cartels because they thought mistakenly that he was DEA?Sounds like the narcos already have known about gringos cleaning house down there.

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    4. I am a gringo leave the Mexicans to their own war US stay out

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    5. 5.53
      Totally agree...The US is always viewed with negativity by Mexicans..Just look at comments and attitudes right here,verging on near hysteria and hate?
      You cannot win with Mexico and many of her people no matter how righteous the cause or action...

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    6. If it makes things better ye I'll take it,,,so come on baby give it to me..
      But we'll still be on one about Mexico and you'll still be hatin?

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    7. Writing about Mexicans hating is funny, given the hatred towards Mexico and Mexicans in the US.

      The reality is that the US does not send in armed people to other countries to help those countries. They only do it for their own benefit. That includes WWII, by the way, in which the US sent its troops to secure Western Europe once it was clear that the Germans were defeated by the Soviet Union. The US wanted to be sure the Soviets did not liberate Western Europe of Nazis and were constrained only to Eastern Europe.

      Since WWII, the US has not provided any assistance to any country that they destroyed in war. Look at the disastrous mess they made of Iraq and the instability they helped foster in the middle east. The only help they gave Iraq was with the oil business, which has fostered US energy interests.

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    8. 12.06
      Ok,got that

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    9. It's bad as it is and now giving them that privileged jesus, when they show up to little towns they harass people and kids like you wouldn't imagine, one occasion a u.s. agent started throwing in the air a 3 month old baby to make the father talk (location of his relative )

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    10. 11.47
      Stop making shit up..''Throwing babies in the air''Did they eat their hearts?
      What a nobhead..Try and keep it slightly believable,Get a grip,and a life.

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    11. 5:32 Ha, Ha, Ha. I also started to respond but 11:47's statement was simply too ridiculous for words.

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  3. Mexishit stop complaining, your shit is about to get better.

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  4. Fuckin idiots need to worry about fellow Mexicans...No one else.
    Whine about bullshit all you like(and you will)it's Mexicans killing Mexicans,end of story.

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    1. 2:22 mexicans killing mexicans with American furnished weapons paid for with drug proceeds, to privatize some of that ugly narcos money...
      --Ass kissers go home, the gringos will use your ass, then they"ll be gone with your money and your honey...

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    2. 12:51pm
      What, if it all, are you trying to conclude from your first paragraph?

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    3. Amerikkkan weapons merchants took all their money in cash, from the narcos, that was the only idea, to benefit, and fuck the spotted owl

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  5. Wats gona happen is that any one has a price once we know it these agents will b working for the cartels all this is gona do is that they will b better trained Americans working for the kingpins making the stronger!!!!!!

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  6. Oooh not guns in Mexico?
    Foreigners with guns?Ohh no,,how violent will Mexico become with all these foreigners?We need to worry about this,never mind other issues.

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    1. Ooh no, the weapons!!!
      Don't be a pendejo, every single time mexico has been invaded to be civilized or christianized, the mexicans have been left mas jodidos, the good intentions of the US were shown when they started planing their fences and walls to keep the rabble out of their precious country, they knew what was to come, they have been screwing all of LatinAmerica since way before they started planing their fucking fence...
      So much for tear down this wall mister gorbachev...
      The US has become "them"

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    2. The worst thing that ever happened to Mexico was kicking out the Spanish. They were the only cultured ones that knew how to keep their shit in check. Franco wouldn't have no fucking cartels running around trust me.

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    3. no guns in Mexico, it worked for German in 1939

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    4. @6:34!!

      What an idiot you are!!!

      Gorbachev and the Russians had a wall up to keep their people IN and keep them FROM fleeing to freedom!!

      The USA is putting a wall up to keep drug runners and other criminals OUT and keep their own people safe!!

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    5. @1:39am

      Cultured Spanish people? You mean like the Spanish home grown terrorist group ETA that existed for decades?? And you have the nerve to bring up the "humanitarian" and "litarati" Franco???
      Are you fucking serious???

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    6. No I'm not serious..And Rome gave the world so much,,war is the mother of invention,,strange dichotomies.In short life can be confusing,specially for you.

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    7. @5:46pm

      Edison and Tesla, among many others, would disagree with your "strange" dichotomies.

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  7. Mexicans are fucking haters if they bitch about Americans carrying weapons over there

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    1. I am Gringo Mexicans r not haters, Its their Country we have no business there. Gringo stays home

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    2. Mexicans are haters and can be pretty hateful to other people?
      What's the mystery,everyone here know this?

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    3. Build a Great Wall just like the Chinese did to keep the Mongols out!! But the US won't do it because it will be viewed as the ultimate disrespect to the Mexican people. Which way do you want it? Some minor assistance from US Feds or a closed border with a huge wall. If the Tea Party had their way there would be no discussion. Think about it.

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  8. Well the USA got what they wanted. like always i guess they figured since these white boys sent these guns over here might as well let them use them overhere.

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    1. Where are the like buttoms.

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    2. well @2:36 thanks for yournice compliant bigoted and racist remark. "White boys"? WTF? Only White. Go get you head fixed you racist pig.

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    3. Dude,Mexicans are always racist on here,leave them in their ignorance and hate..They use the race card when it suits,,rank hypocrisy

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    4. What race card is there in coming to mexico to stop the people from cooking and eating peña nieto's ass

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  9. As I understand this, this only applies to agents from countries were Mexican agents can also carry weapons and will only be allowed in Airports, The US does not allow Mexican Agents to carry weapons in US soil so I doubt it applies to the US. Of course there will be people complaining about this, after all, thats the usual from political opposition, Anyway I don´t agree with allowing agents from ANY country using weapons in Mexico, much less if I cant use one as a Mexican.

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    1. it applies to us and was discussed as such on the senate floor.

      those who oppose it are demanding a precipice allowance in the US, but the initiate does not demand that.

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    2. Us agents have no busy in Mexico, let Mexicans fix their own problem

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    3. let everybody carry weapons Mexicans and Americans But everybody than all this will stop

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  10. Arm yourselves and we wont have to! The gun control thing is really working out for you huh? Just the narcos and military have the decent weapons!

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    1. yeah, the war on drugs really is working out for you too, eh? the us consumes more illegal drugs than the world combined.

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    2. That's true all the narcos and military have guns but normal mexican citizens can not even own a gun. These narcos driving around with guns ar15, ak47 etc. killing people while the citizens just have a knife and baseball bat to protect themselves.

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    3. The funny thing is that the 10th article of the Mexican constitution says..ARTICULO 10. LOS HABITANTES DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS TIENEN DERECHO A POSEER ARMAS EN SU DOMICILIO, PARA SU SEGURIDAD Y LEGITIMA DEFENSA, CON EXCEPCION DE LAS PROHIBIDAS POR LA LEY FEDERAL Y DE LAS RESERVADAS PARA EL USO EXCLUSIVO DEL EJERCITO, ARMADA, FUERZA AEREA Y GUARDIA NACIONAL. LA LEY FEDERAL DETERMINARA LOS CASOS, CONDICIONES, REQUISITOS Y LUGARES EN QUE SE PODRA AUTORIZAR A LOS HABITANTES LA PORTACION DE ARMAS.
      (REFORMADO EN SU INTEGRIDAD MEDIANTE DECRETO PUBLICADO EN EL DIARIO OFICIAL DE LA FEDERACION EL 22 DE OCTUBRE

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    4. The question is, who determines what calibers are "military exclusive" as i understand by visiting www.mexicoarmado you "could legalize.38 super and 5.7x28.. All you got to do is go the the nearest military station with a "carta de no antecedentes penales" and you get
      Your form, kinda like a tax stamp from the ATF for class 3.

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    5. You can transport it on the trunk with ammo in glove box.. Kinda la californias gun laws.. Never forget that we Mexicans are native to North America.. And you are not!

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    6. @ 4:54 p.m the war on drugs is a joke ill give u that and i dont use drugs but ive got a better chance defending whats mine up here than the avg mexican citizen does there! American indians are native here too!

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    7. Yeah just like Canada,only cops,military and criminals have guns yet we have 1 of the lowest gun related[and crime for that matter] rates in the world so eat that you gun happy Americans.

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    8. @11:46 p.m too fucking cold up there to do anything! Who wants to go shoot it out in 40 below zero! Were gun happy down south and proud of it! I saw an armed law abiding citizen stop a carjacker and another case where one held 2 bankrobbers at gunpoint till the cops showed up! All of it was caught on camera and witnessed so eat that!

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    9. Yeah 11:46pm what 4/15/15 @11:00pm said. But to add to the discussion Canadian girl even though Cananda has low gun related crimes you still have some pretty heinous murders up there. I have seen some brutal crimes scenes from up there. Criminals using knives, machetes, pitchforks, baseball bats and axes. Us Americans come from rebellious bloodlines so we don't take kindly to the government telling us what to do. You Canadians adopted too many of your laws from them damn Europeans. We Americans cut the cords from them idiots long ago. Haters gonna hate. The US doesn't hate from the top but everyone else hates from the bottom. C'est la vie.

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    10. That's a oft repeated stat,,,ehyyyy

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    11. Yeah,Canada doesn't have violent crime or people?Err,what about femicide of indigenous women,the pig farmer,Hansen,bikers,mafia,err ok ok

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  11. Those Marshal Pensaron que estaban en su tierra Lol this is sinaloa were you bettered bring ur balls if you want to come out alive....ajuuua puro culiacan

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  12. It's about damn time. Invade that fucker.

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    1. Yea ok sure buddy..... Dont forget the U.S. just like mexico has ties to the drug cartels because everyone wants to make money. Just another attempt at wasting peoples lives. The real agents should be the mexican working class that wants a revolution.

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    2. Woulda shoulda coulda blah blah blah this is the real world be happy this is better than the stat quo

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  13. The US offered EPN and the gang substantially more money to allow armed agents on Mexican soul than to not have them. No matter how rich the narcos are they will never be able to provide as much money to EPN's government as the US government. It's obvious the Mexican high society is scared because the narcos can't be controlled. Believe it or not the US agents in Mexico is the lesser of two evils. Bartlett must not have been involved in the gift giving that's why he is pissed. Plus how is a Senator with the last name of Bartlett (which is English in origin) going to object. Blame the narcos for not playing fair and not listening to their masters.

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    1. --The parents of the ayotzinapos and their supporters are not drug traffickers or drug dealers, nor were the ayotzinapos...
      --Drug dealing is a.problem, but it is not mexico's biggest problem...
      --The problem is the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia selling mexico out for dos o tres pesos like the pendejos they are and their "friends"...
      --Canada is english owned, like australia...and the US...

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  14. Dang...you beat me to the punch....I was feeling witty

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  15. Why worry about gringos when you has Isis? http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/04/isis-camp-a-few-miles-from-texas-mexican-authorities-confirm/

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    1. Tweet from Tim Johnson, Mexico Bureau Chief for McClatchy:

      "Fort Bliss public affairs dumps cold water on report that ISIS has set up camps at Mexico border. ‘No credible information’"

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    2. One need look no further than some of the other articles on that site to realize its fraudulent garbage journalism.

      "President Obama has unleashed the federal government’s vast resources to combat global warming and the ammunition of choice is a cornucopia of fraud science" or "While hordes of illegal immigrants, drugs and criminal elements slip into the United States through the porous Mexican border, the government agency that’s failing miserably to secure the area celebrates an “aggressive enforcement” program that confiscates imitation name-brand handbags, sunglasses, apparel and jewelry"

      ROFL!

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    3. But now, Proceso, perhaps naively, has picked it up. But just relying on Judicial Watch, which they call a NGO - LOL:

      http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=401185



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    4. Chivis, It is not so much that they are far right. They have gone after Cheney and Haliburton for accounting irregularities, for example. The founder, Larry Klayman, left them years ago and has since sued them at least twice, and he is a birther (his latest stunt is to try to have Obama deported). But the major efforts of Judicial Watch nowadays is to sue anyone who tries to make immigration from Latin America easier.

      The only source for this report which is now being bandied about the internet as rumor on "conservative" news sites is from Judicial Watch. Snopes debunked an earlier report by Judicial Watch that some ISIS agents were caught at the border, but in the Snopes article it was stated that Larry Klayman runs Judicial Watch which is false.

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    5. we may do a post.
      fort bliss only said the increased security has nothing to do with isis. they did not say anything more.

      the report is old about isis it is from september 7

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    6. well...i wrote to tim asking for a link to his information about fort bliss. i could not find it.

      also I was sent additional information I need to ck out before completely dismissing the story. but it is in fact an old one. proceso would have had the ability to check out information on the Mexico side, but they honestly are not as reliable or careful as in the past. some reporters are, but the newer ones.....not so much, "tabloiditos"

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    7. It was made up by Judicial Watch:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/isis-in-mexico-rightwing-watchdog-claims-islamic-state-fighters-have-established-a-base-eight-miles-from-the-us-border-10177841.html

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    8. @ 9:17
      How do you know? Please lead me to the proof. Because this story now grew legs in mexico. proceso ran with it, and Journalist Anabel Hernandez is promoting it. and I along with others are just trying to get at the truth.

      Mr. Johnson relied to me and as it turns out fort bliss did not discount the story. it was an "anonymous sources at fort bliss who made the statement off the record and not as a part of fort bliss PR department.

      so be precise when saying something. don't say it is made up because it is you who is discounting it...SHOW US. deal with facts

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    9. http://www.kvia.com/news/us-federal-law-agencies-say-report-of-isis-in-anapra-mexico-is-unsubstantiated/32367718

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    10. another big headline with no supporting information. too vague to be relevant

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    11. Chivis, here is an article with some history on this story that Judicial Watch resurrects over and over again even though it is constantly debunked. Here there are some Homeland Security sources, among others, and politicians from Texas backtracking after they jumped on the bandwagon. Of course, the US is not going to release classified satellite data and on-the-ground data, but this has been going on since 2010 with Judicial Watch. It is in part a fund raising tool they use. They are not a credible source, given they make stuff up. Hernandez repeating this doesn't make it so. Will she give actual sources other than Judicial Watch?

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/17/trent-franks/isis-mexico-and-planning-cross-border/

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    12. Chivis, you write:

      so be precise when saying something. don't say it is made up because it is you who is discounting it...SHOW US. deal with facts

      You ought to take your own advice, Where are the facts regarding this claim by Judicial Watch that is being repeated ad nauseum by news outlets with no other facts than Judicial Watch said so?

      As I said in another post that didn't get in, if I reported on a blog that Obama ate infants for breakfast and it got picked up by a bunch ideologically biased news outlets, would you expect the President to give a news conference and deny it? And that is not so far fetched: ever read anything by David Icke?

      You need to take your own advice. If you repeat that gibberish, then you are not listening your own advice and will bring down the quality of this publication.

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    13. you are preaching to the choir and seeing what you want to see not the reality

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    14. seeing what you want to see not the reality

      The reality? What I see is that a web site repeatedly publishes a post about terrorists in Mexico coming to the US, for years, without any credibility or any terrorist attacks or terrorists being captured. That rumor is repeated by numerous news sources and some politicians without anyone noting it came from a single web site with no evidence supplied.

      I am seeing the reality. There is no credibility to this post that gets bandied about.

      If you think I am not seeing the reality, show me the reality, Chivis. Give me the evidence. It is like asking someone if he stopped beating his wife. Yes or no?

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    15. http://embamex.sre.gob.mx/eua/index.php/en/comunicados2015/912-posicionamiento-de-la-embajada-de-mexico-sobre-las-afirmaciones-de-la-organizacion-judicial-watch

      The government of Mexico dismisses and categorically denies each of the statements made today by the organization Judicial Watch on the alleged presence of ISIS's operating cells throughout the border region, particularly at Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua - El Paso, Texas.


      • The relevant authorities operating in the region have also confirmed the nonexistence of these activities with their US counterparts, with whom they will continue to work closely and exchange information at our common border.

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    16. The US had training camps for terroristas in mexico, working shoulder to shoulder with the iran contra conspirators, loading air america planes with drugs ,money and weapons for their guerrillas and the cayman islands...that is why the US is losing all the wars they engage in since korea, those at the top steal the war money and the soldiers lunch money, but they become billionaires out of government largesse...

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    17. I know it's probably overkill, but a Houston tv station sent a reporter to the tiny "ISIS stronghold" near Juarez to investigate. The local residents laughed when she asked about ISIS having camps nearby!

      http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/04/17/residents-of-us-mexico-border-town-say-no-signs-of-isis/25916003/

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  16. Why are people opposed? More firepower and expertise to take out top cartel members is surely a good thing (genuine question).

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    1. Its a Mexican Problem not a US problem in ten years this should get better

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  17. We all know that the US has agents that dress up as Mexican Marines...Mexico itself cant handle the load.

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    1. Mexico has good marines, and they can handle that easily, the problem is when suddenly they have to stop fighting because their boss has told to do so, and then every learn that their marine boss has been bribed with millions of dollars, how can you handle that? EPN and US know that and they are now scaling to another kind of war, but money always destroy good intentions...

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    2. Wow think you nailed that 1 on the head.

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    3. And thats exactly why US has DEA agents dressed as Mex Marines cuz of the corruption. Once again, Mexico cant handle its own load.

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    4. And I supose that you think that dea dont like money, specialy when a pretty topless woman gives him a case full of dollars coming from a big drug lord? Lol for you, keep watching hollywood.

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  18. the question here is why american army emule mexican army are the affraid?

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    1. They do that so they can carry weapons. Now that they can carry openly they won't have to emulate mexicans

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  19. Question? Where does all the wealth go if Mencho n other high profile druglords are wanted in the US n Mexico?

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    1. ... The $ Goes Up^ Up^ To The Sky ... "Ghost Federation Employees" ...

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  20. Why is it the we only hear about the capture of drug lords n the charges, but we never hear about how many years theyll be getting or when they stand trail?

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  21. This is a move from the cartel number one, United states dea -cia and PRI peñanieto, another war is coming, now turns up that americans swats teams will fight the war, monopoly is what they want, but this is inly the beggining it willl not be easy and will last years with more horror, similar to afganistan and irak.

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    1. Monopoly is what is needed. The Mexicans can't be trusted. Simple.

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    2. nor the americans, simple, where is el chapulin colorado ?

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    3. American should also stop giving a country that hates them billions of dollars.

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  22. And when are they gonna capture el mayo? Almost 30 years and still free its ridiculous. Forget Mencho and CJNG mayo has brought more drugs to us than any other narco still free. The US needs to get their shit together and capture that guy.

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    1. Ittle did you know that pri allow it,, but chapo stays in mexivo.

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    2. Forgot about el senor de los cielos in his times

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  23. What everyone fails to realize is that 2 years ago EPN and the DoD worked out an appropriations deal for private security. Over half a billion bucks this year alone has been earmarked to private security companies, namely Academi. This is taxpayer money for training and hands on in the drug war in Latin America, specifically in Mexico and Colombia. They can do what the military cannot do so very soon beside the agents in Marina uniforms there will be Academi mercenaries boots on the ground.

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    1. someone mentioned the same thing the other day on another posting. Nieto is the devils advocate too. I heard something awhile back what you mention but Nieto working both sides behind the Mexican peoples backs for his private security. The war will be brought on by the trained mercs and countless more will be gunned down as part of collateral damage. How can he justify that? Do the means always justify the ends or vice versa? These boots on the ground as you want to call them will be licensed killers to do as they please. What laws are going to stop them? Soon we will have no more extraditions they will be cross border kidnappings. No prisoners, the criminals will be shot on sight. Who is going to stop them? The Mexican military? They are not going to interfere with the beast of the north. Risk an engagement they will lose? Nieto is a fool he walks hand in hand with the US no matter what he says.

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    2. The rivals are already being shot on sight by Mexicans death squads if theres no bribes paid.

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    3. The illustrious illiterate is doing what the illuminati wants him to do, fucking prietito is just soo happy to do as told, and the US clings to the concept of the infallibility of the mexican "leader" bullshit, it brings the money home...

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  24. OK--enough of this shit!! How can any Mexican, or anyone for that matter, object to the U.S. helping Mexican law enforcement personnel take down all the cartel bosses who have been recently busted. The Mexican Marines are the best Mexico has to offer and with intelligence information, weapons, and equipment from the U.S. they have been kicking some serious ass. You dumb asses are implying you would rather to be extorted, kidnapped, murdered and have your mothers, wives, and sisters raped and sold into prostitution, rather than letting the U.S. help rid your beautiful country of all the vicious animals in the cartels. If that is your opinion, then I pity your poor dumb ass.

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    1. Yea.. Like they helped all those other country's right? Name 1 country that the us has helped by invading with "guns holstered" ??? Name it bitch

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    2. what we fear is what comes next, are we really gonna be freed, or are we gonna be like irakies under another sword, but you are right, we want peace even when we have to be invaded, greetings from mexico to you my allie and next us-mex citizen.

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    3. And which department of the USA government do YOU work for? !
      -

      Let the USA in and they'll take control of the country, they've been given the task of Bringing In the New World Order of total control over everybody's life and tie into this the implementation of Agenda 21, See Rosa Koire's Videos, type in her name and Agenda 21, she explains the PLAN without overloading the mind with unnecessary details.

      Señora Sanchez

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    4. Some groups of people like to be oppressed 5:41pm and then intern blame another group for the oppression. Even though it's their own people oppressing them. It's easier to blame than to combat the status quo.

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    5. the Miltary solution is not working the Mexicans r comfortable with the present situation The DEA and CIA cannot change the People of Mexico

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    6. Colombia bitch!!!

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    7. Internal people (mexicans) "opressing" the mexicans with foreign provided weapons, for their foreign masters...

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  25. This is publicly stating a policy to address something that has been taking place for quite a while.

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    1. Yes, decades of U.S. drug enforcement agents carrying weapons in Mexico. What agent would work without a means of personal protection? When we were spraying paraquat on marijuana fields in the 80's, we had many agents there. He who pays the band can choose the song. Merida initiative means big bucks. Due to recent events, U.S. must physically verify that money is getting results. I hope that the pace of narco captures continues. Don't get all focused on a few agents having weapons. I'm sure that they are not shooting the plave up unless in self defence.

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    2. "Some" marihuana fields were sprayed with paraquat, most of them not, because they belonged to the CIA, who were using american money to produce their produce, and stole most of the money, including that from illegal weapons sales to iran and iraq, and oils sold at sea from iran...
      --The americans billions produced results, for those using the good name of the CIA to make themselves rich for a presidential pardons...

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  26. I just do not want to see sicarios kill 25 police and kill more innocents. Read The Names Of US CUSTOMS & CBP AGENTS ARRESTED FOR TAKING BRIBES. READ THE GODDAMNED NAMES. I am a mexican citizen. We the unarmed victims of secuestro y piso NEED HELP. Not empty promises, not more dialog and giant banquet meetings with white tablecloths and glasses of water on TELEPRISA NEWS. I am tired of feeling fear for mis nietas. We do not have ANY police protection. The gringos do not want 50 millon mexicanos seeking asylum. I do not want preventivos on the payments of cartelros ENTIENDES? ¡BASTA YA!

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    1. Than revolt, take ur country back. US cannot do it

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    2. want a little cheese with that whine? you are either with them or against them there is no in between

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    3. 6:07pm Your comment: “Read the names…”

      The US “is” monitoring their agents and acting accordingly if found taking bribes. At least these agents were caught and will be punished. Unlike Mexico where agents can participate gleefully in crimes for years in the open without any fear of getting caught & no punishment whatsoever.

      Be thankful they were caught. This is how law enforcement is supposed to work: Catch the agents performing criminal activity & publish the names so its citizens can have better faith in its government.

      I understand your concerns but in this case your reasoning skills are faulty.

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    4. @12:16 Good post. Mexico & its citizens have been so inundated by all the crime they can't seem to think straight. Even if they had a revolution who would lead?? Several generations have now been brought up under nothing but criminal activity.

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  27. CIA and DEA want to be the owners of the drug trade in Mexico. That has always been the plan all along now that weed is legal in the US they want to own the cocaine amd meth business also.

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  28. Yall know Caro Quintero was released on purpose by the Mexican Government because US told them to. Caro had the respect from Top Dogs in CAF, Juarez, CDS, CDG. Most of them used to work for CQ back in there youth or used to look at CQ as a idol. Back to the point. USA order Mexico to release Caro because he had the power to restore peace whitin Mexico. Caro is turing his back on Mayo just like he did to chapo. Mayo & Chapo are money & power hungry to the point they dont respect innocent people. Caro order is to convince them that drug trafficking is only about drug trafficking & nothing more. When Caro 1st came out he was working with Chapo & mayo but that didn't work out so good so he when to mencho CJNG to help him. Mencho recently screw up with the whole police slaughter that happen. So now the whole deal is off the table. The DEA & Mexican Government learn the hard way criminals will be criminals even if they have the best deal in there hands. Thats why you will see the American Marines/ Navy Special Forces in Mexico doing the cleaning for Mexico.

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    1. Such an idiotic statement. RCQ was never ordered released by any....repeat any USA law enforcement or government agent. The USA needs him silenced either dead or alive. You do not know your history. This is one man the USA never wanted released but in their custody. Get you head out of your ass you spasm.

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    2. Spasm,, too much lmao

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    3. dude quintero ain't gonna show his face. he is wanted worldwide and the u.s. feds want him bad. no on from the u.s. had him released they would rather see him in a pine box 6 feet under or secured in a 6x9 dog cage in supermax. right now he is in deep deep hiding. anyone finds out where he's at u.s. is coming in to snatch him.

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  29. Maybe if there was no martial law in the us it would be fine.

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  30. There are a lot of dumb asses in Mexico. You have to figure their smartest already left for the US.

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  31. casualties shall sometime around be the result. watch!!!!!

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  32. Mexico needs to allow outside help to get the crooks. Like a private company do the internal clean up first. Once the political protection is weakened, go for the criminals.

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    1. interesting solution but how do you propose to go about the 'internal' cleansing?Mexico would never allow it.

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    2. This is Non of the USA business stay out of Mexico

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    3. Do it the US way. Give the government to the corporations. In the US, corporations (mostly media in this particular case) vet the candidates for higher office, like President or Senator, and then decide who is suitable to get serious support in the primaries. (Example: Ron Paul had highest financial support, but once he said that the US had some responsibility for creating conditions for terrorism, he was out of the debates and out of the news and hence, out of the primaries; you must remain within the acceptable box of correct thinking.)

      The defense corporations write the DOD and other "defense" related budgets. The banks write the regulations (the last law passed was verbatim from bank to administration memos). All the major laws, budgets and policy, especially foreign policy, are controlled by corporate interests.

      In Mexico, the government is controlled by plutocrats and local caudillos. The US way is to replace the plutocrats by corporations. It is called corporatism, a form of fascism completely different from plutocracy. Totally compatible with "democracy" in the sense of voting (though not in the sense of citizen control of government). Of course, there is some corporate control taking shape in Mexico with the influx of major automobile manufacturers, who are shaping some localities with, among other things, increased security.

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    4. 7:34 pm
      I’m not certain about the private companies coming into Mexico but it’s refreshing to see at least a few people are willing to think or try something different.

      For the last several months Mexico has been crying for help from the U.S. to the United Nations. It seems it’s only the ones who don’t want to see a real change in their country that keeps complaining on this board.

      If the U.S. situation does not work out Mexico can reverse the decision.

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    5. Mexico can't reverse shit, it's governing narco-mierdocracia can't reverse shit, and you can't handle the truth...
      --keep dreaming...

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    6. 10:51 Typical negative person with a broken & beat down spirit. I can’t, I can’t, I can’t…Mexico can’t… Too many people in Mexico also think this way.

      Mexico initiated this agreement, and Mexico can undo it.

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  33. As long as we allow your citizens to pour in over our border - and we pay to feed and clothe them with OUR tax dollars - we have a right to have armed police in Mexico. There is nothing you can do about it; get used to it, or police your own nation.

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    1. I agree, they leap and bound across the border its only fair we go in and take control of the situation by any means possible

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    2. And the situation may change if the Republicans win the next election. They are saying there is not enough taxpayers to fund all these social & medical programs.

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  34. This is a political disaster waiting to happen. Trigger happy American agents are bound to do something stupid and this will be an egg on the face of any politician who voted for it. Also it's hypocritical since regular citizens of Mexico cannot be armed yet agents from another country can, WTF. Mexicans have a stigma of foreigners in their country running rough shot as this goes back to the Spanish conquest and it's ingrained in their psyche. Another classic case of American policy makers sticking their nose in anther countries affairs.

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  35. I dont see the problem with americans shooting cartel members. Sounds fantastic to me if anything. Hey americans bring everything you got to get rid of these narco terrorists. Bring the drones in baby

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    1. Let see if Americans didn't have the great need to use these illegal drugs, there would be no drug cartels. Kind of funny blaming the wrong party. As long as there are users, somebody is going to be a supplier. You want to solve the problem, end the demand.

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    2. No you are wrong.Mexico now has a drug problem not just Americans.

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    3. Look in the mirror, a large portion of Mexico’s citizens are drug users.
      Mexicans have even taken this drug filth to other countries, but don’t take responsibility for their actions.

      Even if there were no drugs at all, Mexico would have major problems, because many of its citizens participate in crimes apart from drugs. Murder, extortion, stealing, carjacking, fracking, and other crimes from individuals as well as entire families are doing unlawful things. The Zeta cartel took things to another level when they started extorting the individual who did crimes. Things are now totally out of control, due to active participation in criminality from its citizens.

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    4. Ohh dude you get it...Mexico loves to apportion blame but never mention that they actually manufacture and transport the poisonous drugs that swamp many countries yet it is the US who bears the brunt of animosity..Don't manufacture heroin,meth,mots,next will be coca if not already?Irrational hatred and hypocrisy,it should be turned inward to the Mexican government.

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    5. Great post dude,though many will continue with ignorance and hate ?

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    6. @934 another hater. Always blaming ONLY the US. idiot. This is a global problem and their are more meth, crack and heroin junkies per capita in Mexico. leader of the pack Mexico.

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      You're wrong, Iran has more heroin users than Mex and most countries. Second, the Mex junkie problem emerged in the last decade while states side it has been around since the 60s. The Fact is the USA, sadly, is the NUMBER ONE consumer of drugs both legal and illegal.

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    8. Americans with this great need to use drugs, are not the problem...
      -- the problem is who created their addiction.
      -- does anybody think that the CIA just allowed the big bad mexican narcs to do their biiig wholesale drug trafficking in the US all by themselves???
      -- It started out in america's high schools, on one end, and all the american discos, parties, high schools, colleges, universities and party towns, from the hand of the CIA's "just say no" politics and propaganda...
      --Those behind it made a ton of trillions of dollars, and none of them is mexican...

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    9. "Irrational hatred and hipocrisy" you are leaders of the pack, mexican drug trades specialists work for amerikkkan drug trafficking specialists, with a license to do the killing, in the monetary sense of making a killing, and drug trafficking in mexico happens to pay police and government that own the business in mexico and will get no money any other way...
      --Do not get so overworked because of some amerikkkan putas and take blame for all the americans so "VOLUNTARILY..."

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  36. Woohoo !!!! They do own the place !!!! Remember Narco or Criminal Terroristas do not own shit. I call these assholes out !!!!

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  37. How much money $$$$ does the U.S. invest in Mexico ?

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    1. a lot? What a stupid answer. Clearly you have no idea of what you are talking about: typical uneducated, ineducable US citizen.

      http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35749.htm

      But note that other countries, notably Japan and Germany, are also big investors in Mexico with automobile manufacturing plants and their support plants. Canada and the US are losing auto jobs to Mexico at a very high rate. Toyota just announced a new plant that they are moving from Canada to Mexico. BMW just decided to move a plant from Germany to the US, rejecting the US because of its foreign trade restrictions. An older article from Forbes:

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2014/08/20/americas-car-capital-will-soon-be-mexico/

      Where I live there is a substantial portion of Japanese and Germans who work in the business, providing support. One of my neighbors is a Mexican executive for BMW who was just relocated back to Mexico from New Jersey.

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    2. @ 110:29

      BMW just decided to move a plant from Germany to the US, rejecting the US because of its foreign trade restrictions.

      should have read:

      BMW just decided to move a plant from Germany to Mexico, rejecting the US because of its foreign trade restrictions.

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      'a lot' killer one
      10.29 it was funny tho

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    4. The mexican technology is the best you can get for "25 dollars", 10/12 hours a day, 6 days a week...not 25 dollars an hour, but a week...
      --Chinese technology is even better, 40 cents a week, 12 hours a day, seven days a week, but the chinese can't be trusted, they will steal product and technology, so that makes mexico the winner...

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  38. Wat they need to do is get organized

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  39. This is what the federation wanted the monent they decided to attack CDG and Juarez plazas. Looks like the cartel leaders and members love the street fight and want war really bad so, let the US military go in and kill them all.

    I will not miss any of them

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    1. No US military thats why EPN and the US agreed to private security in 2012. The mercenaries will do what the military can't do and more. These cartel rat scum will be scurrying to the mountains.

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  40. It's about time I'm tired about hearing how my family and friends having to change how they live down there. I might finally get a chance to visit in peace!

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  41. Listen people!!! MEXICO is the one allowing. NOT that the US doesn't want to, but the M E X I C A N G O V . I S A L L O W I N G !!!!!! NOT the US!!! IF, that's a big "if", if it helps Mexico than what would be wrong with that??? Someone said what will come after??? Well Mexicans need to decide, grow some balls like DR MIRELES and fight for your country!!! Then you won't need asylum!!!
    Use the tools you are offered STOP being so fuckn proud. I hear all this bullshit " puro blah blah blah and there way the fuck over in some other country hiding. Mexico is beautiful. If Mexico was my "mother " i would defend it the smart way. Learn how to use the HELP, *HELP* SAY IT WITH ME *HELP*! That is out there. Then get rode of it and do what's right for your own Mexico...... The biggest fear (it's really just pride) is that people in other countries don't want foreigners to help , "cause than what will the other countries say" fuck that shit.... If i allow a mechanic to work on my car, do you think i just drop it off and let him do whatever he wants with it? Fuck No! I keep as close of an eye on it and even help with what i can, then i maintain it myself. Cause it's MINE. I learn to repair from other people ( people, not person... More than one... Don't just trust one) then I maintain it.

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  42. The most positive thing that will happen, is the Mexicans will so sick of the US in their country they kick Pena out

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    1. LOL the US will annex Mexico as a new site for Disney

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  43. My grandfather served under General Pershing and went with him to Mexico.
    They did not have to hide under Mexican uniforms ..... They wore green and sang green grow the lilacs as they marched . The term "Gringo" derived from that .

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    1. Actually, I believe the term Gringo originated with the American Army of Occupation in Mexico during the Mexico/U.S. war in 1848. However, you are right that the song Green Grow the Lilacs resulted in the word Gringo. Very few know that.

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    2. >>>>And the lilacs were not exactly lilacs, even then...<<<<
      Back jack also failed to catch Pancho villa with the help of the greatest generals, planes cavalry, and artillery that went on to great achievements on WWII
      --Douglas McArthur confessed in his biography that he used to go at night into mexico, to the graveyards, dressed as mexican...
      "Then Pancho Villa's head disappeared, mysteriously"

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  44. Someone said a few years back when seeing some Mexican LE in photos they were wearing $500 - $3000 usd military watches and were big ol muscular boys with their faces covered. What kind of Mexican LE or soldiers can afford a $3000.00 USD watch ?

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    1. what kind of Mexican ??? Please stop writing bs, come to Mexico and have your skin in the game, do you still believe that Mexicans look like a short indian and muscleless?? Please atlest visit wikipedia : Mexican army and please see that you can easily be fooled about what people say and believe about us Mexicans, people like you are so closed mind that think and believe just what bs people say about us, someone up here told the truth, our army can handle this mess easily but corrupt Generals does not let to fight because dollars!

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    2. Most guys in that line of work wear $50 Casio G-shocks.

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    3. Expensive watches when working law enforcment? That definately sounds like something a mexican would do.

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    4. --Mexican military in charge, have all been trained in the amerikkkan's schools of the assassins, their ass has been bought and paid for...
      --the rest is history speaking for.itself...

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  45. Great post >>> AnonymousApril 14, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    Mexicans themselves have created the sewer that is Mexico, but they still keep whining all day long.

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  46. Without 100% control, Mexico will remain the same. This new law will also prevent stupid incidents like a few years back when U.S. officers made a U turn on the Mexican side of the bridge El Paso / Juarez & were detained - arrested by Mexicans for having guns..

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  47. A si pescamos al El Marlboro aka Daniel Menera Sierra jefe de Piedras Negaras . Faltan mas por pescar.!!!!! US ##1 operation going on right now jajaja we go into Mexico we don't play ok .we will fine you ok !!!!!

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  48. once these agents are in Mexico... the problem will be to make them get out of Mexico

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    1. 1:33 NOT WITHOUT FIRST SAVING PEÑA NIETO'S ASS
      That is job #1...

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