Sunday, April 19, 2015

"El Chapo" Guzman Loera fears Death Penalty in the United States

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Zetatijuana Article, with editorial update by Chivis

Tribunal orders a Judge to admit an amparo against extradition, the ex leader of the Sinaloa Cartel fears the death penalty in the United States.



Zeta Investigations

A Collegiate Tribunal in Penal Matters of the First Circuit ordered a Judge of Amparo of Penal Matters to admit a demand of Guarantee of Protection of the narco trafficker Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Loera against the probable order of extradition to the United States.

Originally, the Thirteenth District Judge of Amparo of the Federal District, dismissed the December 16th application of former leader of the Sinaloa Cartel, considering that the complainant claimed future and uncertain events. The ruling was challenged by the capo by process of complaint appeal.

Judges of the Fifth Collegiate Criminal Court of the First Circuit stated the complaint had foundation, holding that the Judge had to admit the amparo under basic human rights and resolve the procedural moments that apply, according to a copy in possession of ZETA weekly.





The Claims of "El Chapo"

In the injunction dismissed 1233/2014 Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera as responsible to the Secretary of the Interior, the Attorney Generals Office, Foreign Secretary and Ambassador of Mexico to the United States Authorities.

He is also seeking an amparo against SEIDO, a Public Ministerial Agent of the Federation in charge of making the application for the extradition order and of the Federal Judge of Penal Processes of the Fourth District in Mexico City who knows of his evasion of prison process in 2001, among other Authorities.

In regard of who those Foreign Authorities are said the Attorney General, The Secretary General of National Security, The Director of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in Chicago, Illinois and the Governor of the State of Texas.

"El Chapo Guzman" claims of National Authorities, as future acts and imminent, "the unconstitutional, authoritarian and unpatriotic order or arrangement that the Ministerial and Judicial Authorities give so that they may cultivate a process against me for the purpose of extradition to the United States of North America, or some foreign country".

The Sinaloan narco trafficker cites a discharged declaration of the 9th of December, next passed by the American Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein, Chairwoman of the House Intelligence Committee, pointing out that" the United States maintains secret prisons designed to infer abhorrent torture".

Guzman Loera warns that " by means of offensive torture, they will make me plead guilty to the commission of crimes they say I have committed, and thus apply harsh penalties to me, even the death penalty, which is expressly forbidden by the General Constitution of the Republic".

Against the Foreign Authorities he claims, " the commission of acts both future and imminent relations with his obstinate intention to extradite me to the United States of North America to be judged by this nation and with the application of cruel degradation, cruel or inhuman maltreatment, and with the testimony of paid, taught and protected witnesses, force me to plead guilty to serious offences I have not committed, with the execution of the unconstitutional order of extradition, related to the death penalty".


Media Proofs of the Capo

Later, the Judge of the 13th District of Amparo in Penal Matters of Mexico City cast off the demand for guarantees of Joaquin Archivaldo, the narco traffickers Lawyers laid hands on the complaint appeal of all those media statement made by officials, mostly American, to show that the interest to extradite him to a foreign country is a future and imminent act.

That way, before the Fifth Tribunal College in Penal Matters of the Federal District, the defenders of Guzman cited that the Prosecutor General of the United States of America, informed the congress of his country that, he had a personal interest in extraditing his client " to give him a perpetual prison sentence, the equivalent of a death penalty".

In their grievances, the representatives of "El Chapo" deem that in a 2014 conversation made between the American Prosecutor General and the Prosecutor General of Mexico, Jesus Murillo Karam, on the subject, ensuring the latter to the former " that his extradition would be a matter of time".


The Secretary for National Security for the United States of America cited his declaration before the Security Committee in the House of Representatives of this country, where he said of the narco trafficker " I want him to face justice in the United States and assure myself that he will never again return to the streets again".

The legal representatives of Joaquin Guzman estimate that the Judgement sought by foreign officials, in a public hearing and published in the mass media is equivalent to the death penalty.

About the Governor of Texas, the Lawyers refer to diverse occasions when he has expressed publicly that it is managing that Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman is judged in that state "in order to apply the rigor of the law".

They detailed that Texas is a North American entity" that applies the death penalty, principally to persons of Mexican decent, as has happened in current times, and for an example they cite the executions of Ramiro Hernandez Llanas on the 9th of April 2014, and of Miguel Angel Paredes, on the 28th of October, also in the past year.

In reference to the Director of the DEA in Chicago, Illinois, Jack Riley, they highlight the statements issued by the Police Chief of Chicago to the Chicago Sun Times newspaper on February the 23rd, 2014: "we will do everything possible to bring "El Chapo" Guzman to the United States to apply the rigor of the law, the punishment will be that he will never be allowed to return to the street".

Also to prove that the extradition against the Mexican is an act future and imminent, the complaint states that the Ambassador to Mexico in Washington, D.C. " has manifested emphatically before the North American press, that Joaquin Guzman will be extradited to the United States to be judged and to apply the law, this is a question of time, and it will be very soon".


Months of Hell in Altiplano

"Under protest to tell the truth", the drug trafficker said in his statement of claim that on February 22nd of 2014, he was arrested in the port of Mazatlan by elements of the Secretariat of the Marines, without a warrant, or an arrest warrant, nor of the unconstitutional order of location and presentation.

From the moment of his violent detention, he says he was taken to CEFERESO No. 1 Altiplano, in Almoloya of Juarez, State of Mexico, where he is being held and where in the eight months since his arrest, the prison authority has subjected him to the most infamous, cruel and inhumane form of imprisonment, in special segregation cell, for punishment where he has been subjected to brutal psychological and moral harm.

He adds that, his family and their attorneys "we fear with the unconstitutional and irrelevant tricks and gadgets, he will be extradited to the United States of America or some other foreign country, where the United States has secret prisons in order to be judged and condemned to death or prison in perpetuity.

Therefore the complainant requested a guarantee of constitutional legality from the Collegiate Body, that grants the suspension of plan of acts, and claims final time amparo and protection of Federal Justice, against acts claimed by all complaining Authorities.


Proceeding to admit the demand

Unanimously, the Judges of the Collegiate Court considered "wrong the determination of the District Judge, in dismissing the demand by disrupting the essential principles of the amparo trial" and declared founded, the grievances put forward by "El Chapo" Guzman.

The Court of Appeal ordered the Judge, that there did not exist reasons for scrapping the demand of amparo, to assume the jurisdiction that suits you, and at the appropriate procedural time resolve relation. The 13th District Judge already made reception of Judgement and complied with the Judgement of the Guarantees admission. They even granted the level of suspension to the complainant, for that at the moment, they are not ordering the provisional arrest for the purposes of international extradition against Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera.

It transpires that for reasons set forth in the Mexican Legislation the amparo petition by "El Chapo", does not proceed against foreign authorities, so they could cause dismissal in that sense, but undoubtedly the constitutional judgement against the Mexican Authorities should be reviewed.

Original article in Spanish at Zetatijuana

To even up the facts here is an Editorial by Chivis:

Persons extradited from México cannot be executed 

(First off, Otis this is not a reflection on your great work.)
In a treaty with Mexico, initiated under the presidency of Jimmy Carter, the US agrees not to impose the death penalty on person’s extradited from Mexico. (article 8) or if it does-they will not execute.

The caveat is Mexican nationals in the US legal status or not, and is not the product of an extradition from Mexico, can and have been executed.

Executed Mexican National
For example the Zeta article highlights Ramiro Hernandez llanas.  The killer (in Mx and US) Executed in 2014.

In 1997, Glen Lich, 49, hired Hernandez-Llanas to work for him to help renovate his ranch near the city of Kerrville (Texas)

Unbeknownst to Lich, Hernandez-Llanas had recently escaped from a Mexican prison where he was serving a 25-year sentence for a 1989 murder in his hometown of Nuevo Lareo.

Several days later, Hernandez-Llanas lured Lich away from his house by telling him falsely there was a problem with a generator. He beat the man to death with a length of steel rebar leaving the man unrecognizable, then entered the house and attacked Lich's wife Lera.

Hernandez rapes Lera four times, and then ransacks the home for valuables and forces Lera to give him money.  Exhausted he falls asleep and Lera managed to untie herself and escape to a neighbor’s home, where authorities were called.

He was arrested, he insisted he “only struck the rancher once, and raped the woman only once”.

While he was in prison awaiting his murder trial, angry because he was not given eggs for breakfast, Hernandez assaulted a jailer in the face with a shank.  He was convicted of an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and was given a 40-year sentence for that offense.

His last statement was an apology, asking for forgiveness, and saying he was at peace.

Life without parole and the death penalty

The Zeta article also highlights Texas’ executions.  Mexicans nationals may be fooled but not citizens of the US.  Chapo would be tried in Federal Court, not under Texas jurisdiction.

Chapo’s filing of amparo was an exercise of covering all bases, and tossing a few  Hail Mary passes.
However, there is a possibility that Chapo could very well receive a sentence of life without parole.  That said, only one Mexican narco has been sentenced to life without parole, and that was Francisco Javier Arellano Félix, alias "El Tigrillo". But he is not an extradition case.

He was arrested by the US Coastguard while fishing in international waters off BC.  So he was fair game to US authorities and the treaty would not apply.  Arellano Félix worried about the death penalty, pled guilty to all charges in exchange for life without parole.

No other Mexican  crime figure has been so sentenced.

The life sentence is most likely the real fear of Chapo.  Even without the “no possibility of parole” stipulation, in theory, a sentence of 30 years or more would mean a death sentence.

91 comments:

  1. Lets bring Chapo to Texas. He will pee in his pants :-)

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    1. Wasent osiel cardenas guillen the first mexican capo to snitch and Become informant From DEA ...in texas ? Or was he sent to some other state?

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    2. Put him in the same prison as Benjamin Arellano and same yard I know. It won't happen but still love to see what happens since he would always run from Benjamin when he would try to kill him

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    3. Chapo always runs imagine what would happen if they put Chapo and Benjamin together Jajaja that's a good one

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  2. What I cry baby
    I hope his sons are next
    This poor farmer has wrecked many lives with his greed for money

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    1. Chapo is a nice guy. Cmon now, we all like el chapo right??

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    2. The drugs will never seize, where there is demand there is supply, in all actuality from reading his "amparo" Chapo is far from stupid, many say he snitched but it seems to me that the cuates snitched on him, does anyone have solid proof he snitched? It seems the USA wanted to cause distress, now they got it.

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  3. Lo que deberian de hacer los texanos es ejecutar a todos los malparidos gangueros que estan manteniendo con su welfare no buscar extranjeros para hacer experimentos, esos puttos malvivientes de los gangueritos son mas peligrosos y le salen mas caros al gobierno.

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    1. Gangueros? Really? ...Bruh

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    2. Asi es y asen su desmadre y pala semana salen , y otros que no son cholos ahi andan asiendo año

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  4. waaa waaa he didn't give a shit about the countless 1000's he had butchered, tortured and murdered. Bring his whole family we will make sure there is plenty of drug cocktails for them all.

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  5. Can the ATF and any other US politicians involved in Fast and Furious be extradited to Mexico for being responsible of hundreds of deaths? Hell, if this man is responsible for sending tons of drugs to the US and they want him brought to them why can the mexican people ask for the people responsible of sending hundreds of weapons to Mexico?

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    1. Interesting point you bring up.

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    2. "Becuas" weapons merchants own a lot of politicians who are also all dirty and guilty of numerous crimes...
      --So the cholos and the gangbangers will have to keep putting the bodies and the prisoners for a while...
      The politicians and legislators are too busy trying too hard to look decent...

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    3. Because of $. That's Mexicos main motivator. It's cheaper to give up a scapegoat versus being financially cut off from all future investments.

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    4. You hit the nail on the head, yet the good old USA wants to blame the Raza, Mexicanos, etc., yet yet I feel the war on drugs is a war on people.

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    5. Y 'pa que chigaos quieren que se extraditen las personas envolví radas con el "Fast and the Furious", no Es como que México sigue las putas leyes, anyone with money or and power will be released in a short time or Gavkin Mexico will look the other way so the powerful criminals can get away. Y crean en mi, no soy americano haciendo sentir mal a todos los mexicanos. Yo soy mexicano de Michoacán De Ocampo... Facken Mexico is so corrupt!

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    6. Lets not be I ignorant. There are plenty of Russian and Chinese arms dealers more than willing to work with multi billion dollar cartelss for weapons. Its short sighted and ignorant to believe that the US is responsible for violence in Mexico. Weapons are easy to come by when you have that much money. But if it makes you feel better to blame the US for Mexicos guns then you'll be fine because the masses believe the same ignorance.

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  6. who fabricates this bullshit, anyone with half a brain knows you can't get the death penalty for drug charges. BB take these nonsense down these place is turning into BDN

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    1. I somewhat agree. But his crimes include murder, remember? anyway I wrote to otis and sent him a short editorial i wrote explaining the law, and with the 1978 treaty mexico extraditions automatically takes the death penalty off the table. they can however imposed life w/o parole like Francisco Javier Arellano Félix-

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    2. 9:46AM

      Please, oh please, open your eyes, wake up, don't you get it that it's only a desperate ploy by Chapo against extradition???Geeze!!!

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    3. @9:46 you are comparing Zetatijuana with BDN?

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  7. It's a smart move by his lawyers. By them throwing out there that he might receive the death penalty if extradited to the U.S., Mexico under their own laws WILL NOT extradite anyone under such pretexts. Chapos lawyers are playing the system and will get what they want. He will never step foot in the U.S. to face justice as mexicos AG has said before.

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  8. He's not getting extradited. He is Mexico's most prized possession, everyone is still enjoying his money

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  9. If I was el chapos son I would have gotten all the sinaloa cartel n started terrorizing all Mexico n usa if they treated my dad like shit ... yea he probably killed innocent ppl in their certain reasons but if it wasn't him someone else woulda done it .. its just how a life of a capo is but we also cant deny that maybe also that guilt made him wana help ppl in there own ways but atleast theyre feeding there family everyone has theyre point of view

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  10. Death penalty for drug trafficking....simple and effective... indonesia, has the lowest rate of trafficking, why because they don't fuck around....

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    1. I think it's time then that the USA end this failed money making drug war and legalize across the board, did you know Indonesia is a big supplier of Opium?

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    2. If you did the death penaltyfor drug trafficking then the USA would have no CIA.FBI.sea.or Senate or congress.and most of you would have no jobs.

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    3. This is why your not alive anymore lol

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  11. show me one extradiction from mexico to usa that ended in the execution of said mexican. chapo is the biggest crybaby i have ever seen.

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  12. This is a ploy by his lawyer to encourage Mexico to reconsider possible extradition. Here is some advice for that idiot. Take the extradition between the countries with an agreement of no death penalty. The US would agree. If he sits there and let Mexico sentence him and serve time there and get sent after that, he will get the death penalty Once he served a satisfactory time in Mexico and then is extradited, the US is not making deals at that point. He better take the deal now. Either way he has a death penalty awaiting him. Mexico will let him out for old age and he will be just like his brother from a recent post. Also it depeands which state will get him. Some have the death penalty but rarely uses it. As long as it isn't Florida or Texas, he most likely would die first. The truth is he just want to be in Mexico to try to plan another Houdini escape plan. Didn't his victims fear a death penalty? Ship him out!

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    1. Never, he will be out by Thanksgiving :)

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  14. Live by the gun die by the gun.

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  15. Time for special forces death squads. Kill anyone associated with cartels. If relatives can not prove wealth was earn by labor give it to social programs. Until someone gets the message.

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    1. How about if your special forces take care of all the drug addics in the u.s. dumbass

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    2. Nah, 2:41p the addicts do not pose a threat to the safety of the US citizens but your piss ant narcos do. That's why the guns going south will never stop. And you know why? It's because the drugs won't stop going north. Our addicts are just like Mexico's serial killers and mass murderers they can't help themselves. Mexico feeds the US's addiction and the US feeds Mexico's addiction.

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    3. More in Mexico El Feo

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    4. 4:59pm

      Says who? Addicts do pose a serious threat, economic, security ect... If they didn't DOE would knowingly hire them. Why do you think they don't?

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    5. 4:59 Drug addicts most certainly do pose a threat to society. No one wants to live near or around addicts, because we have seen up close and personal the destruction they cause both to themselves as well as their families.

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    6. 5:44pm thank you , guess your not in denial like the rest .. drug trade is a business, like any other business you need clients if you don't have clients , business closes down , but there's millions of dollars that get pocketed at the border supposedly for the war on drugs and jobs being created , keep wasting the tax payer dollar u.s. your doing one hell off job lol

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    7. Who is in denial? Pookie the crackhead does not concern me like a tweeking member of a cartel. Pookie just wants to wash your window for some pocket change to fuel his habit. Keep killing your own people 11:44pm you are doing one hell of a job. But hey as long as it's Mexicans killing Mexicans it's ok, right?

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    8. Big money launderers are the problem, because greed is behind it all, they got all the money cornered and buy all the decency they want, fuck you and your problems thank you.

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    9. Then what is good for the goose is good for the gander, the CIA and FBI and the rest of the idiots here making money off a failed drug war.

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    10. Mexican citizens apathetic and quiet acceptance of brazen criminality play a big part in general...

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    11. Addicts are dangerous and some may kill.most steal.identification theft.ruin your credit.AND some carry dangerous. Desease like silent tuberculosis.
      At the least they will waste your time with SINCERE Lies with tears in their eyes.all bullshit.I learned the hard way to NEVER have ANYTHING to do with addicts.
      NEVER AGAIN

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    12. Lay down with dogs 7:10pm you wil get fleas guaranteed. Maybe I don't see the threat addicts pose since I have near ran with addicts. I have bever befriended a addict, loved an addict nor excepted an addict into my circle of associates. So I don't understand your perspective.

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    13. ADDICTS ADDICTS ADDICTS
      They are not th only ones consuming drugs !
      Most of th drugs are being used people who have jobs family by teenagers not jst addicts .nothing can turn things around anymore in mexico. The kind of war that th drug trade became. is a monster that only something as radical as the legalization of drugs .. yes I was totally against legal drugs . But it needs to be done to save our beloved mexico

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  16. Nah tell him dont be scared, theyll treat him like a celebrity if he lands in California ala Charles Manson, Richard Ramirez (rip) etc...maybe Texas will execute but not California!

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    1. Texas doesn't execute cowards who hide behind their sicarios. Texas only executes real men who take responsibility for their actions. His defense to execution is that it is inhumane. How funny is that!!!! The preparation and the actual execution are more humane then the murders perpetuated by this mass murderer. Any man who admires this guy is a straight up bitch if you ask me. Keep Shorty in Mexico where he belongs. You guys deserve him.

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    2. Texas does not prosecute its criminals even if they don't wanna throw anyone "under the bus", if they got money...

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    3. ''Richard Ramirez RIP'' ?
      Even Mexocans hated that stinky dog ..
      What kind of person admires Ramirez?
      Some of the people here really are some strange fuckers?Ramirez RIP?
      I don't know

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  17. They didnt give the Arellano Felix death penalties..Osiel Cardenas turned joto snitch so he didnt get death penalty..Chapo wont get it to much celebrity status.

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  18. Why hasnt chapo stood trail, faced a judge, got prosecuted? Are they really buying his declaration that he is a farmer??

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  19. And yet they wont give death penalty to pedophiles..

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    1. That is what I'm saying, a rooster could not have sung it clearer and people need to stop playing God and whoever puts whatever into their God given bodies rather good or bad is their own damn business.

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  20. Anyone know who the unmasked man behind the marines with the jacket is or what agency he works with?

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    1. 1:36pm he put the mask on to look cool

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  21. Texas justice: You start the trial, I'll get the rope.

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  22. I doubt he will ever be tried in the USA. This guy has too many sordid secrets implicating important people in high places (in USA, Mexico, Europe, China, etc). An American trial (if conducted fairly and openly) would release a Pandora's Box of facts that might cause rivers of blood to flow, corporations to suffer, and maybe even national regimes to topple.

    I am convinced Chapo is never going to get a chance to "truthfully" reveal things that might harm important people or entities like banks, DEA, CIA, or huge corporations.

    Mexico-Watcher

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    1. You are probably right on that one.It would be' shut down' under guise of national security like Zambada trial.

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    2. Amen to that, and thank you.

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  23. It is so damn hilarious to me to see how afraid of death these drug lords are. They are so afraid of going to hell and burning for eternity. I think writing a narco corrido about how chicken shit Chapo is would be an awesome endeavor for any anti-CDS singer. Grow some balls Shorty and deal with the consequences.

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    1. There is a corrido. 6_1 arturo villareal. Talks about how scared chapo an javier torres were in early 2000

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  24. So he’s afraid of death? It is truly depressing to view how a person can violate every rule of legal & moral laws on the planet but “EXPECT” the same laws to work for him when caught.

    With so many murders on his hand, there may be a settling of accounts with his entire family & friends being eliminated…and for all the crimes he has committed; it will still never be enough payback.

    I wonder if that murderer Trevino will go the same legal route. Disgusting, truly disgusting.

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  25. Lmao....el chapo will never see texas.....quintero never got extradited.....WHY......cuz he knew too damn much.....miguel gallardo has a extradition order.....where the fuck he at???????...these americans sure like to kill mexicans....but they love their drugs even more......

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  26. Snitches get the death penalty.

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  27. exactly chivis! great post

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  28. Chivis you are right. There is a treaty. However the US has used tactics of kidnapping to get the person out of the country. That excludes the treaty as null and void for that particular case. If a person was kidnapped and brought before a US court, then that person would face the death penalty. Good thing he is in Maximum security. Also let's hope the guards aren't easily persuaded by a little extra cash. It would be shocking to go to sleep and see Chapo in Mexico and wake up to him in a Chicago federal court. The US considers Mexico a safe haven for murderers and terrorists. That is why sometimes the request for extradition is overlooked and other actions are considered. Never say never though!

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  29. Yo creo que a un ganguero si lo tratan de executar con una inyeccion en vez de morirse se pone high de tanta basura que se han metido al cuerpo la inyeccion no lo mata, hahahahahaha

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  30. He was working with CIA . Mayo zabada son said that they were workin together with the DEA . A CIA plane wentddown with 8 tons of cocaine in southern mexicoa few years back .his capture all this nonsense of extraditions and trials its all a CIRCUS come on people ..very sad they put this article up in thise site.

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    1. who is they? I put this article up, not they, if you want to take some moral high ground on my submissions, can you qualify the work you have done for BB?
      No? didn't think so, if you think the articles I translate are not good enough why don't you offer something better?

      The article offers the position that Chapos lawyers are heading down, this is not the personal opinion of Zetatijuana or mine.

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    2. Mexicans become very irrational where the US and 'gringos' are concerned..
      At the back of which is something usually odious..An idiot is an idiot no matter where they originate from...

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    3. Otis B...
      Bottom line is most readers appreciate your work and your input which is considerable here at BB..Surely you know this..You are supported..

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    4. 11.28
      Not cool at all,by the way did your idiocy have a point besides jingoism and blame game irrelevance?

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    5. You guys really took it to th heart .I just had a problem with th way yoo put it out there . Yea what's irrational ? That that I dont accept th medias spin on th drug war .so im an idiot for not believing everthing in th news .I have nothing personal against ottis nor was my intention to offend anyone . Yoo guys can defend ottis all yoo want .but yoo do it it in a way that makes it sound like what I said are lies ... do your homework and stop with the name calling

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    6. a reader can appreciate the work of someone, but disagree with an article that is riddled with error and spin. Otis did not write the article, he should not be offended because he thought the article was factual.

      He also is not an American and doesn't live in the U.S. so he could not be expected to know when something is ridiculous as this is..

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    7. Mexicans can't half whine..
      All it is,is hate and negativity,argumentative bullshit and half truths to suit the victim agenda?

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  31. Amparos only proceed when the US is protecting their favorite genocidal murdering satraps...
    --Ernesto zedillo wanted for murdering the indians of Acteal/Chenalhó..
    --Felipe calderon, mass murder, kidnapping disappearances, extortion, alliances and protection of drug traffickers...
    --with Genaro Garcia luna his secretary of public security...
    --and his godfather, protector and business partner, el hombre mas rico del mundo, Carlos Slim Helu, a civil engineer who made himself a billionaire in dollars, "from a teaching position as math teacher in a mexican university"...

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  32. When you read the B.S. cited by the defense attorney's, and the courts of Mexico, it becomes clear to me that what Chapo most fears is facing a judicial system where he cannot bribe his way out. Even though Mexico assures the world that Chapo Guzman is incarcerated at their maximum security prison Altiplano, I am not assured at all that he will remain so. I have this suspicion that the billions of dollars he made in illicit drug proceeds, which the Mexican government has yet to find, won't be able to corrupt a judge, a prosecutor, an official elected to Mexico's highest office, warden, etc, from conspiring to free him from Altiplano or wherever Mexico has him "incarcerated." Notwithstanding the multitude of arrest warrants from various jurisdictions in the U.S., he could walk out of the prison and disappear with Mexican officials unable to locate him. Walking out of prison and disappearing sounds familiar doesn't it?
    The filing of the Amparo by his defense attorneys is a legal maneuver designed to prevent him from ever seeing a U.S. courtroom. He has probably read the complaints of other cartel members sentenced to federal prison and that they constantly complain about the conditions in the prisons. Here, his ill gotten gains won't be able to buy him special privileges as he spends the rest of his life caged 23 out of every 24-hours.
    I had to laugh when I read the part about the prosecutor general, governor and secretary general of national security all wanting to ensure he spent the rest of his life behind bars. I thought only a judge could decide a person's sentence in the courts of the U.S. Perhaps Chapo's lawyers are getting paid with some of Chapo's farm products. After all, according to Chapo, he is only a poor farmer. Culero, face the music and be a man you whimpering enano.

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  33. These fuckers do not need the death penalty or life. Give them only 20 years in Florence Colorado. On day 2 they will wish they were dead. Day 3 they would pay for someone to end their misery. When they get oit they wull be toothless broken snakes.

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    1. Then you can use your tax dollars not mine, I'm tired of my money going to house drug suppliers because they give those who choose to do drugs what they want, drugs have been around since BC and now people want to dictate what you do with your own body, I would rather my tax dollars go to hold a child molester or pedophile or Chester, etc., than somebody selling drugs where decriminalization is already the norm.

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  34. "Mexicans nationals may be fooled but not citizens of the US. "

    Can anyone tell me what this means exactly. Thanks.

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    1. read it in context "Chapo would be tried in Federal Court, not under Texas jurisdiction."

      You do know that a Mexican national is a person with Mexican nationality, or citizenship. the point was the Zeta article was less truthful and it isn't Texas but the United States Federal Government or the people of US who would prosecute the case.

      It is clear that the article can fool Mexicans not familiar with the laws of the united states, but not American citizens. They would-should know better. Chapo is not afraid of the death penalty he is afraid of a sentence that amounts to a slow death.


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    2. That is correct, the title is misleading for starters, in the text it is referring to life without parole not the execution chamber.

      secondly "secret prisons that torture" Feinstein is referring to CIA tactics of waterboarding. not the US prison system. btw no where in the house committee report was their mention of torture that was her opinion, although if I was water boarded I would certainly think it so.

      "There is no doubt that information provided by the totality of detainees in CIA custody, those who were subjected to interrogation and those who were not, was essential to bringing bin Laden to justice. The CIA never would have focused on the individual who turned out to be bin Laden's personal courier without the detention and interrogation program."

      "Specifically, information developed in the interrogation program piqued the CIA's interest in the courier, placing him at the top of the list of leads to bin Laden. A detainee subjected to interrogation provided the most specific information on the courier. Additionally, KSM and Abu Faraj al-Libi—both subjected to interrogation—lied about the courier at a time when both were providing honest answers to a large number of other critical questions. Since other detainees had already linked the courier to KSM and Abu Faraj, their dissembling about him had great significance"....


      this article is a mess.

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  35. That is spot on Chivis.
    I might add that there are seven Federal jurisdictions wanting Chapo, (with indictments)

    U.S. federal district courts, including Chicago, Ill, San Diego, California, New York and Texas, on a variety of charges, ranging from smuggling cocaine and heroin to participating in an ongoing criminal enterprise involving murder and racketeering.
    Chicago was the first establishing they want Chapo, and along with California is considered having the strongest cases.

    San Diego has mountains of evidence in other cases such as chino antrax and Isamel. SD has 14 indictments against 4 dozen from the Sinaloa Cartel.
    However, I think Chicaago has the edge in getting him first, if and when he is ever indicted.

    I think posting the article is fine, it gives opportunity for discussion. and Otis does a fine job bringing articles to us.

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  36. Nah he fears nothing cause the guy in Jail is an actor from televisa. A great farce by Mexico's Peña Nieto.

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  37. Chivis, how come every time some capo gets sentence to life you guys post that he's the first. Wasn't Juan Garcia Abrego sentence to 11 life prison terms??? Correct me if I'm wrong please

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    1. life and life without parole are two different sentences. Whereas you are correct that almost 20 yrs ago he received life several times over, it did not shut the door on parole. As history tells us, although in this case unlikely, sentences can changed or reduced behind bars.

      Charles Manson comes to mind once given death he is now eligible for parole, and one of his associates was granted parole but surprisingly last year "Moonbeam" Brown stepped in and under governor authority reversed the parole decision.

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    2. Of coarse he's an actor it's all fake .
      It's a circus for us th citizens to watch . So th government can show us how they sre protecting us from th bad guys ..

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