Sunday, April 5, 2015

Banners appear in Tijuana...Signed Tijuana and Jalisco Cartels

Lucio R Borderland Beat some material from BB archives, AFN and Zeta was used in this post

Two Narco Mantas (banners) were hung in Tijuana from a pedestrian bridge in front of the Las Carpas Pulgas (swap meet). The messages were signed by “CTNG and CJNG”.

The message,"mas o menos":
They are angry/bothered that kidnappings and extortion still being allowed, which were supposed to stop.  The cleansing will begin against the people of ‘Tomate’ (Sinaloa)  and  (their) allies, not against the town (people) or the government
And it is signed Cartel Tijuana New Generation and Cartel Jalisco New Generation.

A supposition is that the remnants of CAF have joined with CJNG and have taken on a new name (CTNG).


CJNG had not been operating in BC since 2013, when   Manuel "El Gordo" Garibay, was found tortured and murdered. 

It was Garibay who had allowed the Jalisco Cartel to traffic drugs using  the Baja California routes into the United States.  

This led to a conflict between Garibay and Sinaloa Cartel, and a fracture between CJNG and Sinaloa.


Note: A couple of BB readers mentioned the message reference could be about; Jesus Israel de la Cruz López, (El Tomate) who was arrested by the Mexican Army on January 4, 2011, he was identified as the leader of the Sinaloa cartel in Tijuana. He was released on bail, rearrested, and since then apparently he was released.

185 comments:

  1. What does some of the Shinolas have to say about this?... things are going to get uglier for them aparently...

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    1. How much is this"alliance"going to affect the CDS? Not much. The CDS is so strong that a bunch of payasos running around like chickens with their heads cut off, are not going to make a significant difference. They will get, as always, just the left overs and they will kill each other for them. " deja que los perros ladren, es senal que vamos caminando".

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    2. Why is everyone saying its CDS el tomate and alliances flipped on CDS a while back .there gente del teo and a couple of guys from cartel la resistencia nothing to do with CDS.as my understanding AFO started calling themselves cartel Arellano nueva generacion not CTNG that would be showing disrespect and them separating from the AFO .tomate is in Tijuana with el guero chompas people and in Baja Sur they have el chapo trejos people who are set up in cabo and el tigres people scattered all over.CTNG are not remnants of AFO thats the new alliance that was made with balas Chan aquiles etc.tomate guero chompas el tigre use too belong to that alliance but they started fighting for plaza rights .

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    3. El tomate killed someone from CJNG personally for threatening him of murder he sent people to fight against mencho when it was up for grabs.el tomate was released last year for that murder.tomate was accused of stealing a shipment from CDS.gente de confiansa for mayo and chapo was aquiles rana el fantasma and el tomate that was in 2009. today is a brand new day in a whole world chirp chirp chirp hahahaha

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    4. 11.30
      Good post dude

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  2. My love tijuana has not been the same since the bosses from sinaloa die when ramon and his family had control of bc everything was cool tijuana was respected and everybody work and had a share of the cake i hope my love tijuana no se bane de sangre otra vez mis bendiciones a toda mi raza de tijuas desde california

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    1. Yup those fools from sinaloa especially ramon was a syco he had more balls than all the putos together from tijuana no doubt buddy

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    2. How come nobody tries to take control of sinaloa or tamaulipas cause nobody wants to fuck whit sinaloenses and tamaulipense, i always see sinaloense controlling sinaloa and tamaulipense controlling tamaulipas

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    3. Conseguir un agarre mi amor..
      Ramon and the rest are dead,gone,and they were rats as well,rose tinted bullshit...

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    4. Rats; just like all the Shinolas.....pigeon stools

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    5. Because they have balls that's why azul back in the days use to run michoacan face it the people from tamaulipas and sinaloa son la Que mas participa.

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    6. just like michoacanos controling michoacan. 1:34

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    7. Michocanos are nothing in the game as a matter a fact mencho is where he is now because he sucked the balls of none other than Nacho Coronel CDS. Learn before you speak. Martin beltran coronel(nachos nephew) has more power than Mencho.

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    8. Thats not true, michoacanos are deep in the drug game. If michoacanos stop supporting sinaloa the zetas will eat them up. If this manta is true, tijuana is going to be a blood bath. Michoacanos have been supporting sinaloa in tijuana for years, if they go against them it will be amusing. When Teo was at war years back for control of that plaza, I read an article wich said most of the people getting killed at that time were from Guerrero, Michoacan ans Sinaloa. real spit

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    9. Michoacan was rule by zetas and azul espsrragoza back then and know cjng is tring to take over

      Snitches are from every cartel even the russian mafia and italian mafia have snitches

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    10. Yo soy de tijuana i aqui en la baja los arellanos son leyenda

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    11. allways hatting on michoacanos lol They would not be mentioned if they didn't have clout! hatters

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    12. 12:46 if you really knew mencho is one of the ones who betrayed Nacho coronel right before his death

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    13. Son leyendas pa los pendejos . Trajieron pura muerte y desmadre. Los k no somos ignorantes deveras sabemos lo k son. Ademas nunca pudieron con Amado. El papa de ellos y punto

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    14. Pinche manta was done with a chango descalabrado,it means the poster has no money!!! Just another "gang" of muertos de hambre trying to bluff their güey in, really, estupiros never learn.
      -- tamalepas has been in the grip of crime and criminals to de populate the state and take over it and guauhuila because of hidrocarbons, did you see the report about bertie boy moreira's map and party?
      --Fucking pri narcomierdocracia is really something .

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    15. You mean sinaloans are supporting michoacanos get your head out your ass that's why the culichis took over the ice game check game

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    16. Los zetas never ruled michoacan it was divided between los Valencia n Carlos Rosales until the latter got caught n la familia michoacana was formed.

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    17. Golfos and azul had cells that worked with them in diferent occations that were run by Michoacanos. Thats why it was easy for the michocanos to break ties and kick them out michoacan when they went independent. Check the facts, michocanos still have ties to cds and cdg. people allways talking out the nalgas.

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    18. True look Tavel animal from michoacan but belongs to cds golfo had la guera that was from sinaloa so I'm Shure there more where that comes from

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    19. Michoacanos are dumb for clicking up with snichaloa, thats the reason alot of them are locked up. chaputo snitched on all of them! Mensos lol

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  3. It's not wise to challenge mayo

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    1. he's most likely dead or scared to come out the mountains. HE'S OLD NEWS

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    2. It isnt.. hopefully cjng, and ctng, think about it and know that they will lose.

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    3. MAYO AINT SHIT COMPARED TO THE PEOPLE MENCHO HANDLES ALL OVER MEXICO IF CHAPO COULDNT HANDLE HIM MAYO WONT EITHER

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    4. Mayo ain't shit? Wow look out we have some experts over here. Old news huh...ok?!?! So not being talked about and seemingly forgotten about is a bad thing? Mayo has been around longer than anyone in the drug business...and well sometimes people just talk out of there ass.

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    5. Seriously looks like CJNG is now the favoured cartel of the government. Hardly no arrests of their people compared to other cartels and also Menchos son been released recently seems to confirm they are been favored. Whether RCQ is supporting them after he was release on a "technicality" or whether he's in a narco retirement village is anyone's guess though.

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    6. Yeah buddy but chapo mayo been in the game for decades they have people that mencho has nevered handled in his life.

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    7. Chapo is in prison and mayo has never had these many enemies challenging him at once. It has always been CDS swallowing up the smaller cartels under them but not anymore. CDS is being gobbled up to the bone. The marrow tastes good.

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    8. To: Mayo ain't shit?; There or Their, LoL

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    9. mayo is a triple og mencho on the other hand is so so I think this is fake though.

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    10. Mayo doesn't have the muscles anymore he's old all his kids r lock up his best men r dead or in prison that's it for him he just hiding waiting for death to come for him

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    11. Talk all all the shit u want about mayo he survived look how many didnt pay respect where its do...hes been there done that shit these young guys wish they were on his level bet hes plugged in to the point he doesnt have to come out the mountains

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    12. If mayo aint shit than no one in Mexico is shit....what a bozo comment that was.El Mayo is the most powerful gangster in Mexico.

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    13. true mayo is been around a long time and he has being involved in a lot of wars and nobody can maintained himself at the top for all the time and not be good on what he does he has talent for that business. But history has shown us that it doesn't matter how powerful,rich,smart how many connections u have the day comes when your number is called remember amado Carrillo ,Pablo Escobar just to name a few all time most powerful capos even they couldn't donut for ever and unfortunately for mayo his end is coming soon and then another great capo will come on to continue the job and so on so forth that just the way that business runs so nobody is untouchable for ever and ever body is replaceable

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    14. Mayo is just like any other capo is comes to a point when they just get tired depress and they start making mistakes they get weak they drop there guard they r not machines they r human It happens to all at one point that business that lifestyle will bring down I don't care who u are

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  4. They could fake too

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  5. those michoacanos are going in deep, lots of blood shed soon for control of plaza. cjng is deeper than ever and aperently have many alies all over mexico, michoacan, jalisco, veracruz, Guerrero and now tijuana? its going to get ugly! real

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  6. CJNG was doing good and you can tell the are trying really hard to get a border town so they can move drugs but thats already owned by Mayo. I see CJNG almost falling as quickly as they rose up .

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    1. That's the key.get a border town.and use every thing you got to protect it.as long as the zetas have Laredo there in good shape.

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    2. The zetas, dealing their tamales by the gramo?
      Nobody does business with los zetas because they rip off suppliers, customers and their workers.

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  7. Does el min know about this? Enedina is going to put the smack down in minute!!

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    1. ... R.I.P. Damaso Lopez ...

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    2. People listen to me. Benjamin is retired. Once he got shipped to the States that was it. His era was terminated.

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    3. no wey no sabe mandale un fax, un text, o un email haber que piensa , lol

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  8. AFO listos pal.combate!!

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    1. ... Now That Some 2500 AFO's Have Been Let Out Prison After Doing Their Time, Her Comes Another Attempt To Control The Plaza ... Enedina Pays $$ To Someone In The Mountains And Has Been Paying Ever Since She Moved To Tijuana In The 80's ... She Is Only 1 Business Owner Within A Corporation Which Cannot Be Stopped ... P.S. Mencho Also Pays Piso To Operate As Major Players "Must" $$$ - Payup ... Stop Paying And The Marina Or Other Special Forces Will Get You ...

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    2. El libro EL EXTRADISADO, Benjamin Arellano Felix...esta Chingon! Aprendan al Min nunca dio nombres!!

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    3. Enedina live in San Diego

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    4. That's the word out here in sd

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  9. Hahahaha tijuana couldn't take sinaloa by themselfs and had to look else where for help CAF has been dead sinaloa will always be on top !!

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    1. Esta bien guey...
      ya todo el pueblo esta harto de cds. Me da gusto k todo sera como antes sin tanta violencia. Ya cds se estaba pasando.
      Rafael caro quintero el narco de narcos puro guadalajara

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    2. Cds used to inform authorities about shipments of drugs and money laundering fronts just so that they could compete with the caf/afo
      Second example of them snitching is Arturo Beltran " everyone knows that chapo is the one who informed the Marines of his location.I'm just saying the cds strongest attribute is informing which has gotten them to the top

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    3. That's b.s that's why tito is with chapo and not chapo isidro and the zetas watch el guacho pumas interview he says the truth right there.

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    4. Cartel grupo atracomulco has been there all along with Amado carrillo, los arellano felix, el chapo, el azul, el cdg, los zetas, blo, cida, los rojos, la barredora, colombia, peru, argentina, cuba... wherever you go, you find chilango associates and connections to the exterior for drug trafficking king and money laundering...
      --What you can't find is all the mexican billionaires that got rich off drug trafficking, just the usual 3 or 4 guys...

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    5. 8:01 Could it be that thats how that mexican Carlos Slim Helu, made most his billions?? thru his companies doing both traficking and laundering at the same time?? How can a mex have made all those billions, not even some of the owners that own those huge multi national american type of corporations have that amount in their banks. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and all those others is more understandable, because they have been doing business for over three decades & some of them made life changing things like microsoft, but that carlos slim??.. does he owns pemex or something like that to make those amounts??.. whats up with that mexican is he with 'grupo atramulco' or what could be the explanation...

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    6. He isn't mexican!!!!

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    7. Seed money, contacts with broke ass politicians from all over mexico, controlling airports through brother DFS agent, Commander Julian Slim Helu, "El Comandante Olvidado" who worked right there torturing people in the sixties with MIGUEL NAZAR HARO, another lebanese with ties to drug trafficking and car theft, on California,US, like car thief Darrell issa, another lebanese, the Lebanese/canadian bank...
      I mean, after a lifetime of exploiting his brother Julian control of airports, Carlos slim had enough money to buy telefonos de mexico for cheap at the fire sale, the rest is history, he made billionaire quickly, but the seed money was all dirty...
      --My father, a mexican politician who liked to party too much, brought a Coran home, from Mexico DF, I read two lines, he never read any, now I know where he got his copy, from the devil himself I am sure...
      --Genaro Garcia Luna, always worked for Carlos Slim Helu, and on reports about enjoying his golden retirement in Florida, people shows their partnerships and links,
      What is billionaire Carlos Slim Helu doing with kidnapper for ransom and extorter of drug traffickers Genaro Garcia Luna? Google the many reports, including un vato, on BB...nice asking, you're welcome...

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    8. By the way, how a country without oil, cattle, indians, slaves or a lot of hot air made so much treasury?
      --Well, "the opium wars" explains a lot, like many other rich countries, on the uropas, they stole all of it, or drug trafficked for all of it, mostly drugs since forever until today, spain, italy, grease, france, england, germany, switzerland, the vatican...
      All of them do not have a decent source from which they can explain their, mmh "affluence" all their economics and banking "flatulence" does not explain any of it...

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    9. --carlos slim helu, Mexican of lebanese descent
      --Darrell Issa, car thief, american of lebanese descent, arsonist, self made millionaire...US congressman

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  10. LOOKS LIKE MENCHO IS ABOUT TO TAKE OVER TIJUANA AND START GETTING RID OF CHAPUTOS CHAPO COULDNT CONTROL HIM IN JALISCO

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  11. LA GENTE DEL TOMATE IS CODE FOR SINALOANS

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    1. Thank you that makes sense

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    2. I thought most already knew this. I mean there is a tomato plastered right on their plates.

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    3. ... El Tomate = Jesús Israel de la Cruz López - Leader Of A CDS Cell In Tj ... I Always Thought He Was Placed Transferred To Prison Here For A Specific Reason By Higher ^ People, Then Released ... Look Him Up On Google ...

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    4. that isn't who this manta is talking about. it is Sinaloa,

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  12. Ese mencho ya se le subio a la cabeza su poder con el CDS no es mas que un simple estudiante con Damaso se topa y es mucho se me hace que con el hermano del macho prieto tiene ese mencho. Sera muy verga en el sur pero en el norte el CDS manda asi nomas

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  13. ES TODO MI CARO QUINTERO.
    SIGE GANANDO TERRITORIO...
    CJNG SERA EL NUMERO UNO.EL CARTEL DE GUADALAJRA
    RAFAEL NUMERO 1...

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    1. Have you seen your caps lock button recently???????????????

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    2. The typing finger is stuck on *
      And the other finger is typing, hey we do what we can.

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  14. It's a force to be wreckin with caf and cjng!!!!!!

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  15. Caf with help of cjng are gona make really strong come back good move enedina!

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    1. Machiavelli 101 is to never seek a bigger power to help you in battle. Bad move on Enedina's part if it was her

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    2. You are wrong 11:04am. BLO and Juarez asked for help from the Zetas and they still have control of their Cartel. The only cartel known for doing what you are talking about would be the Cartel De Snitches.

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    3. Its a buisness Zetas have to win and BLO have to win . Blo allowed zetas to operate in Monterey nuevo leon,also the state of Veracruz ,Mexico city, use the route Guerrero,Morelos,Sonora,Nayarit,Queretaro and also a cease of fire. And the zetas offered hitmen and for Blo to use their routes

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    4. -The US ripped off the zetas already, their 60 million rancho is gone.
      -Osiel paid 250 millions for his prostate examination.
      -El min, did he have any money in his shorts when he got arrested?
      -Flores twins, trying to keep something of their 2 billion dollar empire.
      -Only guys that never fall are mexican politicians, ginirals, police or grupo atracomulco

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    5. Topic at hand I believe is 'mantas'
      Why don't you write one about the US?
      Ohh you already have,many times.

      Peace

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    6. 3:19 mainly because it is true, also because the enemy is still standing, in part propped up by ass kissers like you

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  16. le dieron la frontera al Aquiles y no la supo controlar, prefiere irse a Sinaloa que quedarse a cuidar,
    ahora se la van a quitar por pendejo

    el que quiera tienda que la atienda

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  17. CTNG es la gente del Mayo en Tijuana no sean mensos, El CAF son viejos ellos no son Nueva Generacion

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    1. what cha talkin bout willito? go back to sleep pendejo trollito

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    2. 9:54 Only Chivis can call people "trollito", other pendejo/estupiros need to find their own epithets, work on it...
      --12:44 no te dejes de culaquier trollop, menso!!!

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  18. Why havent you dingeses put up a single article on whats been goin on in zacatecas z vs cdg ?
    Its been crazy since the begining of the year; mantas , ejecutions , shoot outs almost erday

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    1. Zacatecas no ayi nada, puro sueño!

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    2. Si como no date una vuelta a fresnillo y lo a guadalupe aver ke se ve

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    3. Como que no hay nada, en Zacatecas, hay Caldo de Rata en Fresnillo, Caldo Loco en Sain Alto, haciendas en ruinas por todo el estado, Minas robadas al gobierno, zetas fracasados desde Rio Grande hasta durango, ●birria de borrego, the real thing● orgias en Jerez a media calle, and the main dish, news blackout all over the state...

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    4. How can anyone outside Zacatecas know what's up?Unless someone who lives there gives a bit of news?Like you maybe?Nahhh

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    5. I'm reporting from right in the middle of la plaza de toros de jerez, waiting for your cousins, güey...
      --i know about gusanos and ant's eggs eating chilangos too, and about your muñequitas en el pulque, and about the mariquitas some chilangos have for children on the US...always kissing their masters' ass...
      --the portagayola got ruined, your cousin, like you came ass forward, güey...!

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  19. Fake. It's doesn't take rocket science to write up on of these things.

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    1. Estamos listos para el combate, esperando las ordenes de mi general el Min

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    2. Bien listos para mamar!

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    3. 2:46 that was job #1, check, done/now it is all about what el LIC says...

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  21. Tijuana cartel will rise and recruit new people from San Diego county

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    1. Stop with the lies this arent the 80s nomore arellanos

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    2. Why would they recruit a bunch of tactically undisciplined cholos, who have zero military experience or tactical training? When they can easily recruit money thirsty, poor soldiers in Mexico who have already been properly trained for combat. If anything, they will only hire them to move and distribute product for them around SD County.

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  22. CAF been around since the 80s

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    1. CAF Is the real Mexican Mafia. The first Cartel in MX to have an elite group of hitmen. Narco Jrs.

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    2. And cafus gone nomore wakeup

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    3. Juarez was first

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    4. ya dejense de andar de cheerleaders los aretes son ahora testigos del gobierno. ellos pueden quebrar su acuerdo, pero eso significa aser vida. fueron lo que fueron y ya!

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    5. It doesn't matter how long a cartel has been around there's people like mayo and azul that have been around way longer and use to work for those cartels and the some old sinaloan independents that are still around.

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  23. I assume CDS will start taking hits from all directions. Zetas, BLO, CJNG, La Linea and now CTNG. Let's see what CDS is made of. Regardless of what the nuthuggers say CDS has been losing terroritory for the last three years. With all these enemigos it's just a matter of time before the kingdom crumbles.

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    1. ... Sure, Mr. Willis ... CDS Will Only Be Stronger, Larger Along With Quieter As The Young Are Learning From Their Mistakes In Prison ... While Others/Viejones Who Have Learned From Their Mistakes, Are Let Out Of Prison ...

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    2. Why am I a Willis 11:49am? Is it because I speak the truth? If I were you I would stop drinking the CDS koolaid and stop listening the CDS Inspired narco corridos. No one cartel will stay on top in Mexico forever. If you know anything about the drug war in Mexico you would know that the king doesn't sit on the throne very long. Don't take it personal it is what it it.

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    3. 12:56 don't worry about it, yer parna is muy macho because he is anonymous, like us, but he used to have a name, then another, and another, all discredited because of too much stupidity in the mix, that is the only constant there...

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    4. As far as I'm concerned CDS has been dominating the drug trade like true business men. Just cause they aren't running around extorting poor innocent people for a couple of pesos like a lot of other bottom feeder cartels doesn't mean they're not active. I've been to BCS, Sonora and Durango where CDS is heavy in and let me tell you not once did I feel threatened or scared or seen anybody that did. I see fucken Canadians in brand new RV's pulling a brand new Dodge Ram in the back. CDS has their territory on lock I wouldn't ever see that in chihuahua or Coahuila or a lot of other states for that matter because of bottom feeder cartels that'll extort their own family for the next hit of some crystal. So all that enemigos shit you're talking you pretty much just blew out your ass cause their has been plenty of cartels that have tried to dethrone CDS but have just ended up getting weaker or just going extinct cause at the end of the day CDS sigue rifando whether your love their corridos or hate em. At the end of the day they keep prevailing even tho every chapo hater has been saying otherwise for about the past fucken 8 years.

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    5. Whatever 10:19pm keep playing with Chapo's and Mayo's nutsack you are good at it. The alphabet boys got CDS and most of the border on lock that's why ALL the cartels are resorting to extortion and kidnappings to make a buck. They can have your respect but not mine. CDS is the reason Juarez and most of Chihuahua became a killing field. The blood shed was all because a dude with lil man's complex wanted those plaza. But look at Chihuas now. Its virtually CDS free in 2015. All those deaths for nothing. Who cares if CDS is dethroned but keep that shit in Snitchaloa were it belongs.

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    6. 10:19am You give CDS too much credit. So all the other cartel wanted to dethrone CDS? Did CAF invade Sinaloa? Did Carrillo Fuentez invade Sinaloa? Did the Golfos/Zetas invade Sinaloa? No!!!! But by god CDS did invading those plazas. And they failed to secure those plazas miserably. It's 2015 and CDS only holds the terroritory they held back in like 2004. I don't know if you were even out of elementary school back then but CDS got there butt kicked a lot and still does. The other cartels were weakened because of the US government going after them not because of CDS. I am not saying they are done but they aren't the "warriors" you make them out to be. In 5 years CDS will probably be called something else and all the BB old timers will be remembering how badass that CDS use to be.

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    7. 6:54
      Amen to that statement.
      The only hits cds did where made on defenseless ppl. Mostly singers. The blo/zetas let them have @ nayarit 29 chaposmayos killed tubotama another 30+ antrax killed. Mochomera @ el burion gas station let them have it gn an. Antrax no la armaron. Los zetas from 04-08 let them have it. El AFO @ tj and in sinaloa let them have it for more than 20yrs Until the mayo faction signed the peace treaty chapo not having no say in it. All the fighting for the cds was done by the mexican ggovernment. Federales guachos etc.. they were the ones who went into the rivals plazas and hunted them down. This is certainly. What happen in juarez. Long story short cds talks the talk but cant walk the walk.

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  24. Let me tell you who they mean by gente del tomate. . There declaring war on Sinaloa. . They r known for there tomatos. Even there license plate. .

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    1. Aaaaahahahahaha...Yu r right...

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    2. Wow, you need to read up on who "el tomate" is.

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  25. CDS will not give up Tijuana. They already own most of it. CJNG is looking strong, CAF very weak, but CDS has operators directed by the big bosses in Sinaloa who can send them whatever they need. Mayo is weakish at the moment but he still has thousands of people under him and more cash than he could ever spend.

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    1. Cjng is with cds como se asen pendejos fijense en la alianza que tienen en Michoacan, llegaron lo de la Gente Nueva a reforzar a los de Jalisco, y en Veracruz los CJNG tiraron 40 cuerpospero quien firmo la manta? G.N.

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  26. I live in Tijuana and am from the zonaja. I grew up with up disque major players from caf from the zona. El mono no es lo Que creen.my parents are from soyatan jalisco a little ranch most never herd of but that mencho likes to be at. I know for a fact that el chapo asked for a favor and that mencho just said no. That's balls. Mencho might be illiterate but he has good war strategy and that counts plus the gov needs a new fall out boy. Sinaloa is lossing grownd and jalisco is taking over. Personally I prefer to be in alliance with jalisco than live with sinaloas utter stupidity and no respect for what the game is really all about. Make money and let every one make money. Los becerros pendejos con su facebook y su instgram sólo me dan asco los chinloas de antes eran hombre y ajustaban cuentas como tal pero estos morros pendejos ya no saben de usted, con permiso, gracias,y nada de respeto puro wuey se la pasan diciendo.. triste.pero Tijuana nunca se raja.

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    1. 10:26 why say where el jefe hangs, just because big mouth too big...
      --Then the muy hombres murdered Pablo acosta and his replacement, DFS agent...
      --The muy hombres ripped off the Colombian mafia en cd. Juarez...
      --got fucked up by Jorge hank rohn in tijuas, and never retaliated...
      --also murdered don pedro aviles...
      --nobody authorized them to stab their boss on the back...
      --maybe they were was muy hombres among little men...

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  27. Ok people here it goes.....this new alliance between CJNG AND CTNG are together to put out the gente de damaso.cartel de jalisco will not fight against mayo's people because mayo gave mencho help when CJNG was trying to take over michoacan and veracruz..from what I hear there's war between damaso and chaos son Ivan because Ivan wants the reign to the Empresa damaso on the other hand feel he should be in command because of how close he was to chapo.this alliance has been together for over 2 months that's why all the killings in la Paz especially..but in all the Baja. So again it's not CJNG vs mayo's..

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    1. Ok 10:38am let me get this straight. You are saying it's Damaso vs. Ivan Guzman and Mayo is staying out of it? And is CJNG backing Ivan?

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    2. For starters its people representing CJNG no Te enruedes focus.that means CJNG got a couple of routes to Tijuana that equals petty cash and support for Tijuana cells.el tomate has been giving cells that transport for damaso a hard time ever since they broke alliance with akiles and other cells this is nothing new they're also at war with akiles.learn how to distinguish territories damaso,Ivan and guano what does this have to do with Ivan.his routes are in Sonora there's plenty to go around if anything guano is more respected.the smoke is still not clear if akiles and associates are still with mayo they claimed CTNG last year in February.when rumors broke out about akiles and mayo not working together one one key question to make this official remained unanswered who would akiles work transport for if this indeed happen.hmmmmnn!

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    3. 'tonces Aquiles no afirmó nada?
      --What about all the Chinolas en televisa, in all the programs with all the bandas?
      Is it all a lie?
      --The TV ship (that is its name) hidden on the Pacific Ocean that emilio azcarraga bought to help the poor children of mexico, must be getting loaded with meth precursors and heroin...

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    4. ivans routes aren't sonora those are Mayos now

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  28. Is there an nonaggression pact between CJNG, BLO, Zetas and Juarez as the summit suggested? It actually appears that way since there hasn't been any reported shootouts between these cartels towards one another. Looks like CDS is on their own and the others will handle their issues with CDS. Same shit different day with a different leading character in this novela. The only difference is there is no handsome hero. They all look like some beat down primate. The leading ladies: Mota, Chiva, Yayo and tweeker fairy dust. Keep up the good work Carteles.

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    1. yes, there is. mencho is no fool. the only agreements he has with Sinaloa is with a few regional cells.

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    2. Leave chiva out of this.

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    3. Lol chiva is heroin.....chivato means snitch, Nothing to do with the lady reporter's BB...jajajjaja is cool.

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    4. true.
      but a few refer to her as chivaaaaaaaa or chivas

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    5. "Wow"it is like "wow", we didn't know the difference, really? "Wow"

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  29. Please can we do something about these posters who continually post in all CAPS? Very discouraging and infantile. Thank you.

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    1. I've never understood why ppl post in all caps, yet I've never understood why it bugs ppl so much. We got decapitation videos and massacres all over this site but if its all caps ppl get furious!!

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  30. Mencho has been in the game for a while too

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  31. Isnt this aquiles territory now?

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    1. Nope not yet, tijuas still belongs to Arellano Felix it always will be Arellano Felix, best there is best there was best there ever will be!!

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    2. Why don't you inform your self good arrellano Felix lost most of there turf there not the close to been the shadow they used to be bro there very weak no saves nada y hablas a lo tonto.

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  32. Los chinaloas ya no tienen negocio ahora pura negra y crystal la mota de eeuu es mejor que la de mexico,ya se quedaron sin negocia los chinaloenses nomas sembraban mota.Ahora que mejor siembren puro tomates los putos,el negocio ahora es de michoacan

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    1. Ponte a vender aguacates wey!! Y callate alv que no sabes ni Como Te llamas .Pinche envidioso

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  33. I was just in Guadalajara and CJNG don't even run shit there let alone will they run shit in TJ. Sinaloa and I heard RCQ run GDL so this makes me just roll my eyes to all the CJNG nuthuggers

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    1. "Just in Guadalajara" wow, that makes you an expert? GTFOH
      I have lived in Guadalajara for 20 years and know you are a misinformed menso

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    2. I know for a fact cells of CDS still do business in guadalajara 2:29pm when someone from another part of the country do business in what's supposed to be your territory as in CJNG you don't own the town.. Also Chapo still owns Puerto Vallarta so sit down tapatio.

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    3. Anyone can sell drugs in jalisco adlong as they pay tax to CJNG. Many cells do its just the ones that dont want to pay and invade that cause war. Independent crews, other cartels are there too it dosent mean they rule and it dosent mean cds rules.

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  34. It's amazing to see people post in here like there is truth in these mantas. The real people in control lay low and the Menchos of the world are their temporary pawns.

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    1. they are all government pawns and then they get locked up or killed by them after they used them. just look at chapo

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    2. In This Game Of Chess, Agreed. The Federation Can Play Chess With The Best.

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    3. No kidding! There's a lot of cheerleaders here that don't know anything about how it really works. Probably same people that think Azul is dead.

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    4. They are looking for Gold in the Durango area. or better yet a norte Americano geologist that can find it .... on they're payroll

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    5. it's the powerbrokers entrepreneurs and business men and government people who are the real mob and we all know rcq has a lot of real estate property in gdl these traffickers are front men watch and learn these real players they have been playing chess for decades and it's been passed down gen to gen mencho is no one you will see like they said before there going to make it seem like everyone has gone down and everything is going back to normal it already is secrecy will be restored and who ever makes noise will be wacked or thrown in jail watch and see let's who plays chess the best.

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    6. Yourntalking aboutlos cuinis from apatzingan right because we know they are menchos bosses.

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    7. 2:32 el vato sabe

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  35. Cjng are being helped by cds we all know that in oder words cjng belongs or in part of the cds federation . This mantas could be fake or missinterpreted , or we know how sinaloa make pacts when its convinience and then they broke them and betray the former partners . Maybe thats what happened who know for sure?

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    1. Not the case for a long time. Someone said on here there are a few agreements with regional cells and that is true. Other than that you must have been sleeping.

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    2. Lets not forget that CDS is not united, CJNG wasan allie to chapo and mayo but no one said to Damaso, they can war with Damaso and be at peace with Ivan and Mayo, El tomate is not Sinaloa but a regional leader, and in BCS mayo is fighting Damaso,

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    3. Well the narco corridos for cjng says so and well i dont think cjng will allow a singer or band from jalisco state to say that if is not true , we all know that not everything in a narco corrido is true but i think some sensible info like that that cjng its being back by chapo and el mayo i must be true otherwise those will be death by now and also the singers or band are not stupid enough to put that in a corrido if it was not true knowing the consecuences .

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  36. " The message,"mas o menos":

    They are angry/bothered that kidnappings and extortion still being allowed, which were supposed to stop. The cleansing will begin against the people of ‘Tomate’ (Sinaloa) and (their) allies, not against the town (people) or the government"

    In other words, it sounds like CJNG and CTNG are pissed off that they are having a bitch of a time profiting from kidnapping and extortion. Whaaaah!

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    1. Tomate is a regional leader not Sinaloa, Im sure CDS gave the approval to eliminate Tomate since his kidnappings heat up the plaza for CDS aswell

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  37. Aquí suguimos la gente del guero

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    1. ok gracias , esperen su numero sea llamado en mientras tomense un tepache

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  38. What ever happened to real mantas?

    You know. The kind that look like they weren't made by 1st graders on recess using toilet paper. Where it looks like someone had a few $$ to have them made.

    If this is the best they can do, how powerful can they be? Think about it, guys.

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    1. Watch the original magnificent 7 movie and how Terrorized the local population were . Just poor innocent scared farmers in a pueblito. Living in fear 24/7.

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    2. 9:34 a movie from the 60's, without special effects, no zooming in and out of voice or image, and even the horses were shitting real horse shit...

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  39. Additional mantas were hung today

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    1. Just to show the public who controls tijuas now and for the record its not because I'm saying it but the new mantas where directed at akiles and rana and where removed and nadie miro notin .el tomate placed those in reply to akiles ctng when mantas at removed like that they mean the truth the majority of the time.its that still not evidence who works for who wake up people and smell the frijoles!I said It yesterday quen es el tomate and his associates.esos pobres turbos no an dormido they don't call them Los turbos for nothing. I wonder how they get all that energy to stay up for days hmmmmmn!!Como le Aran give them a Break they're tired they can barley write el akiles must be mad at them for not using a silk manta !!

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    2. Como le haran? anfetamines? Oh, methanphetamines, speed!

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  40. El Mencho ain't nothing , his role is the same as la tuta'when he was with the Familia Michoacana , the real leader of CJNG was El Cuini he was captured a couple weeks back

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  41. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2015/03/police-detain-author-of-san-fernando.html#comment-form

    All these Mexican terrorists should be tried by international court for crimes against humanity . This perpetual behavior in Mexico must stop . The French are intervening in Mali . Hoorah for France !!!! F*ck Mexico/ the media/ the tourism people/ and the cover up of crimes against humanity. If the 100,000 plus dead and 10.000's missing in Mexico were Jews. The IDF would straighten things out.

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    1. Anything else? Lol

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    2. The IDF is too busy defending israeli genocide now, they learned from the best, real nazis wearing their Hugo Boss designed uniforms, the German SS TOTENKOPF and the SS WAFFEN...
      --International human rights courts have no balls and no clout anymore, they have become death themselves, and France like Spain is just looking for some chances to extort something from somebody somehow...

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  42. It would be nice to hear Tijuanos take on this.

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    1. My take is no one knows what´s going on yet, to me La Gente del Tomate means Sinaloans, but some believe they actually mean El Tomate from Teo´s days. CJNG had deals before with Don Balas from CAF so who knows.

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  43. Man I love this frikin website. Theres so many good opinions and insight on cartels here. There cant be another better. Im proud of you all reporters and visitors its much appreciated this site is unique and very important. Nowhere else can we voice about this war of cartels thats so chaotic and secretive we try to make sense of it all. Its something very special happening here.

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    1. Have you seen some of the Spanish speaking ones?Cartel players on one with each other,CDG against CDG well greasy.Some of the Mexican bros here can be helpfull when their in the mood..

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    2. Estas bien mencho!!

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  44. All this cartel experts and nobody can figure out that this banners are as FAKE as a 3 dollar bill.....

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    1. 2 dollar bills were fake once...

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    2. What is it about CJNG and their fake mantas in other cartels backyards? First it was in Golfos stronghold in Tamaulipas and now in Tijuas.

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    3. They also placed mantas in mexico city and oaxaca years back.

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    4. cjng aint putting them! they hate the arellanos and enedina,mencho wants to kill her!! dont believe everything read on here,its bogus shit people dont know shit on here! saying theirs a super cartel,jalisco,zetas,blo etc etc! hell no

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    5. Who told u this?

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  45. Those mantas look like sombodys calsones!

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    1. 3:37 es que son los calzones del mil mascaras, he fought the law and the law won,

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