Sunday, December 28, 2014

Witnesses describe the massacre at Tlatlaya

El Diario.mx (December 28, 2014)   Source: Reforma. Translated by un vato for Borderland Beat.
Soldiers guarding execution site
Distrito Federal.-- The military intrusion triggered an uproar inside the warehouse. Some of the armed young men were roused from their sleep by the operation.

"Surrender, sons of bitches! Mexican Army!", they were yelling outside.

"We're being hit by the contras (the rival gang)!", yelled one of the sicarios (gunmen). 

"They are not  contras, they're military!" said another.

"Wake everybody up!", yelled another young man.

"One of the guys said they should surrender, but another person said no, that they were going to get killed anyway, it was then that the people inside began to fire towards the exterior, hearing the Army yelling at them to surrender and to come out one by one with their hands on the back of their heads," recalls Cinthya Estefany Nava Lopez, one of the two sex workers who were with the alleged criminals, according to statements given before the PGR (Attorney General), and which Reforma had access to.

The soldiers lighted the entrance to the warehouse from their Cheyenne and fired their bursts.

Patricia Campos Morales, the other prostitute, was awakened by the military gunfire.

"The sicarios that were inside the warehouse begin to fire and one of them yells 'man down', that shooting lasted between 5 and 10 minutes, after that the sicarios yelled, 'Don't shoot, we give up.'

"Then one sicario went out and the soldiers fired at him, and he managed to come back inside; he had gone out to tell the soldiers that they had surrendered and the soldiers told them, 'come out, sons of bitches, and we'll let you live!', at that point the sicarios began to surrender. Subsequently, the soldiers asked if there was anybody else, and that they would give us 10 minutes to come out", narrates Campos in her statement.

When the shooting started, Mrs. Clara Gomez ran from the corner where she was sitting up to a white pickup that was on the right side of the building and climbed into the passenger side.

"That's when I realize, thanks to the light (from the soldiers) that my daughter was lying face down, beside another boy, also face down, right by the open passenger side door of the truck I just mentioned. I heard both of them moaning, so then I get closer to look at my daughter and I touch her to see if she shows vital signs and I realize that she is still alive."

"Right then, the shooting starts again and I move to the back of the pickup where I had been a few seconds before," the mother of Erika Gomez told the office of the Mexican Attorney General (PGR; Procuraduria General de la Republica).

Cinthya Estefany Nava recounts that the soldiers reiterated their warning.

"They yelled that they would give them 10 minutes to come out, and if they didn't, they would kill them like dogs, that's when I heard a voice from inside the warehouse say to surrender and go out, and after a 10 minute period, I heard no more shots, only moaning", said the young woman.

"Yes, we surrender!" yelled one of the sicarios

The crossfire ended and, for the PGR, the casualties up to that moment were one wounded soldier and 14 armed civilians killed.

Lined up and executed

Lieutenant Ezequiel Rodriguez Martinez has declared to the PGR that, after the sicarios surrendered, he was the one who ordered three soldiers to enter the warehouse.

"I ordered Sgt. Second Class Roberto Acevedo Lopez and two troopers, Fernando Quintero Millan and Leobardo Hernandez Leonides to reconnoiter the inside of the warehouse, where they stayed between 3 to 5 minutes, reporting 22 dead", declared the Infantry Lieutenant.

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The women survivors of the massacre have also stated separately that there were three soldiers who entered the warehouse, but it was not to make sure that there were more than 20 dead.

Cinthya Estefany Nava, Patricia Campos and Clara Gomez testified that the soldiers went in to finish off the dying men and to execute at least 10 persons who had come out of the gunfight unharmed and had surrendered their weapons.

The PGR says that there is only evidence to show that eight were executed; the National Human Rights Commission (CNDH: Comision Nacional de Derechos Humanos) says there were 15.

The two prostitutes, in all of their statements before the authorities, have claimed that they were in fact kidnapped and that, at the moment the soldiers entered the warehouse, they had their hands tied. 

They insist that, along with them, there were two other kidnapped men, also gagged.

"Only three soldiers went into the warehouse, two stayed guarding us and one went to look around the warehouse", recalls Campos.  

The soldiers took the weapons from the sicarios and took the men to a booth located on the left side of the warehouse.

"This guy wouldn't give up even though his hand was messed up, shoot anybody that moves", instructed the one that was looking around the place.  

"That's when I heard a shot and, from where I was, I bent down to look at the soldier, and that's when I saw him shoot two boys that were wounded towards the back of the warehouse on the right side. After that we heard more shooting and moans from the people," remembers Cinthya Nava.

When he started to pull the trigger, one of the soldiers who was guarding the captives yelled at him, "don't kill them!", says Patricia Campos.

"It's because he was going to shoot at me," justified the executioner.

"Ah, OK, in that case, do it", agreed his fellow soldier, according to Campos' statement.

After finishing off the two sicarios, the soldier asked those who had surrendered their weapons to come out of the booth and to form a line.

"Right then, a soldier who was guarding us said to the other, 'You don't think the shot will ricochet?', and the other one answered, 'No, it's not a problem,' then the soldier came back to guard us.

"He told us, 'put your face down, don't turn around', right then the soldiers begin shooting at the people who were lined up on the left side of the warehouse. At the same time, I heard more shots from the right side of the warehouse, you could hear moans and cries and the soldiers were saying, 'you thought you were so tough? Now take it! You thought you had balls, sons of bitches?', and they kept on shooting", Campos narrates.

Mrs. Clara Gomez says that one of the soldiers came out of the booth with the last boy who was still alive and took him to the soldier who had a flashlight. He stopped him in front of the soldier, who asked for his name, age, where he was born and his nickname.  

"Then the soldiers shot him and I heard him moaning. They brought out several persons like that and they would ask them the same thing and shoot them in the end, leaving them wounded. There were approximately 9 persons that the soldiers shot", states Clara, who says that once they fell to the ground, they were finished off.

When all the sicarios had been executed, the executioners asked the three women and the two men who were tied up to get up off the floor and then they took them to the booth on the right.

They kept the five of them there until 07:00 a.m., when the men in olive green decided to reduce the number of witnesses.

"At that moment, two soldiers took the two (kidnapped) boys towards the back of the room with the pretext that they were going to take their photographs for the record, according to them, and I heard shots", says Campos.

"I became aware that the two boys who had been tied with us were already dead along with two other people, I also saw that there were about eight people dead in the middle of the warehouse, and on the left side, there were about five dead, some on top of others", says Nava.

The landscape was a bunch of dumped bodies.

Well into the morning, Colonel Raul Castro, commander of the 102nd Infantry Battalion, based in San Miguel Ixtapan, came to the scene of the slaughter.

They took on site photographs of the three women survivors and turned them over to the Edomex State Attorney General. The two prostitutes were sent to the Federal Prison at "El Rincon", Nayarit.

66 comments:

  1. Well that is a good way to stop this shit i will admit it really did not bother me at first but this shit has to stop enough is enough
    The only problem is that those same soldiers that did this will end up working for a cartel and here we go again.

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  2. What a wonderful ending, we need more stories like this one.

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  3. This shit proves that witnesses to crimes of state are dangerous to the state's case, no matter if they are kidnapping victims, prostitutes or surrendered sicarios who were not even sicrios either, just make everbody a sicario on the paper everytime you mention them...
    If the martyrs of Tlatlaya had just been disappeared, like those from Ayotzinapa, or even better Cocula, Guerrero, and those of Acteal and Chenalho, should have been disappeared, the mexican people would not have a case...
    ...except there is no perfect crime, based on his record alone, the postman always clls twice, and 'La Emilia' , emilio chuayffet chemor, has struck more than twice, he is asking on his site, twitter or facebook, no rememba': " ...and what do i have to do with Ayotzinapa?" On top of his claims of innocence wherever he goes, saying that on many courts he has not been convicted, and no investigation has come up with any proof that he is at fault...
    --el 'maestro' is a smooth operator, as smooth and well prepared lawyerer, his expensive ass has pena nieto and co, cornered and on the ropes trying to save their asses, while Nero asks what me worry? I mean: " is Rome burning?" Or, i mean, Paris, "arde Paris?" Asked Adolfo,,,
    --All while La Emilia parades 'her' expensive ass around the hollowed halls of palacio nazional provoking some presidential lidibinosity to save la emilia's ass...
    --but the el presidente's ass must be saved first and foremost, in order to save mexico, unless the love a la' king edward of england dicktaminates that pena nieto "can not reign nor lord it over the realm without the woman he loves by his side...''
    --hint, it is not la gaviota,

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  4. I understand this is just a translation, and very well done, the insidiousness is fltered into it whole, accusing all the killed of being sicarios, all through it, in spite of preliminary forensics that say many weapons gound on the dead were military weapons planted by the military, and that almost all of the killed were murdered by the military...
    --Expert mexican government disinformation and propaganda to ''save someone's ass'', just slip one innocent little word once in a while, o no hay 'chayote'...

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    1. Ya callate COYOTE como si todos los mx fueran borregos blancos pendejo.

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    2. 7:47 all the shills and the lambe huevos del gobierno are al lthe same, and desperate for their BS to work, I, being a superior being, would never tell you to STFU or ya callate, pinchi borreguita histerica, because you don't have what it takes, you are not earnin' your pay, he he he heee!!!

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  5. For algunas personas who say the military is not pissed off at sicarios. The pinche cabrones sicarios make ambusquedas for the patrols then they scream when they are treated the same way. VETE A LA CHINGAGA

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    1. 1:09 your puchacacas may be doing a good job for you, but the mexican military are very well known all over the world for their cowardly criminality and corruption, sorry!!!

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  6. they probably killed the boys who were tied up bec

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  7. Us dudes i cant feel that much sympathy for,but women and girls?Nah man,i can never be down with killing women,especially when they surrender,i remember this story and how sad i felt for the mother of Erica Gomez.Its alright us going on about execution but soldiers are getting fired on and killed by sicarios so they will naturally have no empathy for them.This is Mexico,a whole different place,ride around with AKs/ARs in public amongst civilians and kidnapping people and you could say they deserve killing

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    1. She didnt belong there, wrong place at the wrong time, she knew better they are sicarios not farmers.

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    2. Dude,i hear what your saying and your right,but she was 15,she was a stupid girl getting wet at the thought of riding with sicarios in trucks with guns.She surely deserved one chance?Have you seen pictures of her in school uniform and at a protest?Her mother stayed outside all night and just happened to be there when the greens turned up,the sicarios wouldn't let the mother talk or take her,its possible she may have grown out of that shit,but its not possible anymore,your right in what your saying no doubt,but personally dude,i couldn't execute a 15 year old girl..Its sad all round,2 young brothers also died there,imagine being with your brother in that?But as you point out they were sicarios and kidnapping people,i can see both sides,but bottom line i side with law and order without which we would have chaos...

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    3. You Idiot. Some of them are worse that those kids who got killed.

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    4. 2:05 STFU.

      Really constructive there dude

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  8. Who cares if they are assassins the army deserves to kill them all. The cartels don't play fair so why should anyone else. What did they want a bottle and a blanket to suck their thumbs. Fuck the cartels.. death to them all and long live the mexican people and autodefensas

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    1. Take NOOO prisoners, i agree with 2:16 100% for the innocent, pos oh well play with fire n youll get ______?

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    2. I agree with 2:16 am. The hitmen kno if theyre arrested they wont do much time n b back on the steets killing again. But if they knew that they would b executed on the spot instead of jail then I think it would turn alot of ppl away from that lifestyle. Mexico needs to bring back capital punishment but do the trial and execution within a week unlike here n the usa were u go on death row for years n years n waste money and space.

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    3. BURNED!! BURNED! Motha fuckers! every bad dog has its day!

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    4. Both of your responses gives a better understanding why Mexico is totally screwed. The FTW and kill'em attitude does nothing for anyone.

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    5. extra judicial killings are against the law. the US and mexico have proclaimed their moral superiority and their stand against interventionism... both governments chose to do in practice different than the superior morality they love to preach, the US refuses to even sign laws that might compromise them to deliver mass murderers to any world court, not even in a photography, and the mexiczaan armed forces will fabricate charges on anyone to make points, for promotions, a better plaza, a woman or a nice truck, grow up girls

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  9. Erika Gomez Gonzalez was 15 years old when they executed her ?
    What kind of man could execute a 15 year old girl ?

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    1. STFU. No body sent her to be with the thugs. She probably was already on that phat of becoming a sicaria.

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    2. oh man,im getting trolled by mille

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    3. I'll tell you 2:17....Sociopaths and serial killers that's who. Mexico is full of them whether it's military, police or sicarios. Who slaughters teens and then feels like they did something good for their community. If a person feels like going on a killing spree go to Mexico you will fit right in.

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  10. What can one say, there's evil on both sides. Although, I can understand why the soldiers get angry enough to kill these criminals, it's because they know that the criminals would have no problem killing the soldiers if they got lucky enough to get the soldiers weapons away from them. If it were me I would take every chance I had to kill these scum bags because the only thing that's going to happen to them is going to prison for a time and they'll be getting out. People need to realize that these criminals are just like rabid dogs and it's only humane to put a diseased dog down, and so it goes with these criminals who have shown that they have lost the right to be called human so they should be put down just like those rabid dogs. At least once their dead the good people will be able to live their lives without the worry of this filth coming into their lives to steal and murder.

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  11. Them soldiers are scum. Killing the sicarios you can sort of understand but killing the 2 kidnapped boys there know better than the sicarios they should be lined up theirselves and shot.

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  12. Those soldiers did a favor to the mexicans. They had four kidnapped 2 hookers and the other 2 rivals?.. and before them howmany more ppl had they kidnapped/killed by then? & if they were still out there howmany more ppl would had been kidnapped/killed by now?? so is almost like their miserable lifes got exchanged for the others that they were going to take. Maybe saving some important lifes in the way... those kinds that make things better. The cancers need to be removed one way or the other for things to get better!

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  13. For the two kidnapped young men, so much for a rescue, eh?

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  14. Judge Dredd: enforcer, judge and executioner just like in Mexico coming next to the USofA.

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  15. Just another Day in Sunny Mexico. It's absolutely incredible to me that we can see all this thats happening right across the border from the Good Old USA and still say that Mexico is playing by the rules of engagement and we don't have a problem with what's going on as long as it's happening South of the Rio Grande !

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  16. Just confirms they were nothing more than cartel terrorists intent on repelling and killing the military or who they thought were rivals. Same cartel mentality same cartel result....dead pond scum. The military did the right thing, there should be no arrests, just immediate justice...EXECUTION on sight. When they knew they were out gunned and out manned they wanted to "allegedly" surrender. Why open fire and then decide to give up? Bless the military they did the right thing.

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    1. The military was only taking out their competition. Now the military can commit all the kidnapping and murder unopposed in the area. The Mexican military is nothing but the training ground for the next up and coming narco group. It's as simple as that. Nothing more nothing less. And you thought it was to protect the people..silly rabbit.

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  17. WOW.. TIME TO RENAME MEXICO.

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    1. DEATHxico. Spelled just like that.

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  18. Take no prisoners!! For the people that were innocent they should of not been there in the 1st place with the sicarios, (u play with fire ull get burned). N the soldiers were right when they told them, u think ur tough u think u have have balls? ..Take it!!

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  19. Ignorant, uneducated, knee jerk reaction.

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  20. I wish the US would intervene and stop all these killings! This is almost as bad as the nazi concentration camps, people are being everyday day, Mexico needs help! The system is dirty period!

    Truth is we are among the most discriminated, Jews got help, So did the japaneese and armenians when they were getting wiped out.. They can careless about our people as long as they stay on the other side of the fence. Sad but true

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    1. Not Mexico at fault but the rest of the world's.Yes i totally agree with you,that makes a lot of sense that?

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    2. "Truth is we are among the most discriminated,Jews got help"

      Stop playing the victim all the time,no-one is victimizing Mexico except Mexicans and people like you and others whining,blaming other countries,races,always the poor victim.My god even inside Mexico they whine about being victims of the US,how idiotic and negative is that?Has Pena Nieto asked for anyone's help recently?Don't think so,do you want the US to go in guns blazing?Of course not,stop talking absolute nonsense...

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    3. Your sad and wrong

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    4. Could we hear some of your ideas on how the US could help Mexico?
      Just a couple of constructive ideas and possible scenarios we could think about and wonder on the merits of ? Lets hear how the US can help Mexico,oh don't forget EPN has to be consulted before ANYTHING can be put into practice,but we can still hear all your ideas?

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    5. @ 3:10

      Where did I mention US should go in fire blazing? Please point that out to me

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    6. How exactly do you want the US to intervene? The US govt. has a better sheep's outfit than Mexico, this also translates to bring more corrupt but less visible. Like the other reader said, your statement is bogus, only Mexicans can get out if this mess and if it's a violent one than be it, I'd prefer to see members of congress be executed than these poor bastards doing some politicians job while getting high on cheap shit getting paid peanuts.

      AC

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    7. "Where did I mention US should go in fire blazing? Please point that out to me"

      You didn't,i know that,but how can the US possibly help?Impose sanctions,stop any kind of aid,break off diplomacy,apply pressures,trade,border?Who would that affect the most?In a strained relationship already,can you imagine the feelings that would arouse?Dude,do you think many many people don't want to see Mexico prosper?It could be so much more but the only people who can do that are Mexicans and of course,its not easy.It is such a delicate complicated issue made worse by venal politicians on both sides,not to even mention the ex-pats of Mexico who would be outraged by something they didn't agree with.
      Just talking dude i apologize for being a smart ass..

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    8. @ .38 Super...How and/or what type of intervention do you wish from the U.S.?

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    9. The Mexican elite are to blame. It is them who want Mexico this way. Until the cartels start lashing out at them and killing them maybe then things change. I remember when Pablo Escobar started killing the Elite in Colombia and that was when the Colombian government started crying to the US for help. Only then will things change. The average Mexican dying is not worth the embarrassment of reaching out to big brother.

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    10. there are people investigating the influence of american money on mexico's state crimes, all the way up to the MIERDA ACCORDS... the criminality of countries at war against their citizens all over the world can also be tracked back to american and other global vulture capitalists. sorry but no sorry. it is all on record and on the internet, and people will keep peeking and talking...

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    11. @12:06

      Maybe my suggestion isn't the best, but at this point mexico just needs an over haul! I blame the goverment system first, I belive there is money in mexico, but the damn goverment pockets it all in. The system has been infiltrated for the same reason, they pay police and goverment officials little money to risk there lifes protecting and serving, and finally they see that it's worth what they make and often they turn into local cartels for the money.

      Lots of people say mexico is not the same as it use to be, I say BS! Mexico since ive remembered has always had bad system, I remember back in the mid 90's my father would get pulled over for nonsense and the federal police would "bully" him I guess I can say? And ask for American cash money to let him go. Who's fault is that? Narcos? Nope! The goverment have people starving..

      Oh but then EPN is buying him self a 7 million dollar mantion. What a damn joke!


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  21. 100% in agreement with the military. These were cartel hitmen who wanted to engage with the military then supposedly wanted to surrender. First of all, why from the witness accounts did the others wake up all the hitmen to engage in a firefight? Their intent was clear, to kill the opponents and survive the fight. Second, they realized they were finished and wanted to I guess surrender, but there is no proof of this. Why then did they want to confront the military and then quit mid fight? Did they run out of ammo and said "I quit?" This for sure is no school ground recess game of tag and you can quit when you want. They openly confronted and fired upon the military and the military did what they do best -- they killed the shibag hitmen. Case closed, the military should receive commendation medals and awards for cleaning and taking out the trash. It simply amazes me that these idiots who all want the cartels stopped always openly complain when one of their "innocent" family members is killed. Killed with grenades and machine guns in their possession. Bags of drugs and pocketful's of cash. To these doublesided motherfuks I say good riddance to the trash the military has to deal with on a daily basis. Imagine how many people these cartel gangsters already killed before the military ended their reign of terror. They were at no rave party they were part of a a killer cartel with intentions to kill and butcher more innocent people. I personally am glad they are dead, now they cannot hurt or harm others as their criminal intents have ended. There were no innocent victims here in this case, these were all killer hitmen and prostitutes supporting their cause of murder and mayhem.

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  22. Well, we all have to remember...when we see the pictures of young nursing students, with their pretty faces peeled off...it's these people who do such things.I see this as a great justice, except for the innocents.

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  23. No Chivis today? Or still retired.

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    1. Why don't you retire,suckaaaa

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    2. Chapo snitched.

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  24. phuck the mexican military i laugh everytime i here one them gets killed pinches perros montaneros

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    1. Este perro esta es rabioso solo porke a todas las ratas como el no lo dejan aser lo ke kieren. Joder! y Joder a los demas!! hijo de vaca puta malnacido!

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    2. 7:36 perra rabiosa hija de una perra barata, extra judicial kidnappings and murders are against the law, what part don't you ass understand???

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  25. According to this article, no women were killed in the shootout.
    QUESTION: Who is the dead woman in the 2nd photo??

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    1. The lil hooker thaf didn't wanted to follow orders from her parents and decided to be with them damn thugs. Thats what she got.

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  26. "Tlataya massacre"???? Really??? This killing these rats should be mandatory. If they're send to jail they will continue their criminal activities so they're better dead.

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  27. The viet-nam theosophy of kill'em all is all alive, i see, and it is still so wrong...
    --Planting guilty parties and planting evidence is so easy for police, military and paramilitary is also alive, as is planting pinky gorilla panties' lickers around to disinform and save the dayon the warrior style of My Lai, and with the same old justifications and impunity, from the same murderers and war criminals who pay and clothe and arm the murderers of the irresponsible mexican people who need to be saved from themselves by murdering them with US bought and paid weapons, by US sponsored and trained mass murderers and war criminals...
    --Today i see many many more comments here, supporting the mexican government's assassins, the official dandies of the mexican satrapy, officially sanctioning state sponsored assassinations and insidiouly insinuating to some of us to:
    "vete a la chingada" which is NOT HAPPENIN' as long as BB puts up with us, if you have a name but need to be anonymous once in a while, i understad you have to defend el chayote, make a living, and nowhere better than where it is happening, you know, you can hide all you want, from whoever you want, except for yourself, we all know when we are forking the ass and why, gorilla pinky panty lickers...

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  28. I wish some of these genius would sometime put a time stamp on their comment replies?

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  29. Yea , I Definetly Believe It.. Happens More Often That Not.. Whenever I See Police In Mexico , Its Better To Steer Cleer.... They Just Looking For Money, & Abuse Their Power

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  30. If the mexican military wanted to really kill sicarios and secuestradores they should have pointed their guns at themselves first.

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  31. THIS IS MEXICO!
    MEXICO = PRISON OF NATIONS!

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  32. It has been proven that part of the military & especially the army is on the payroll of the cartels. The people of Mexico has been screaming for several years the army has killed without impunity and in this particular case the women in this article testified the army again has murdered without impunity.

    So because the ones killed were secario’s (according to a compromised army), that makes it acceptable for the army to murder them without impunity?

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