Wednesday, January 22, 2014

Autodefensas Report Surrounding La Tuta's Hideout at Michoacan Mountain Ranch

Borderland Beat posted by "Tuko"

News is very sketchy as to status.  Sorry for the sloppy translation, I am leaving for the day, any update please send me links and I will review when I return...Before you ask, yes Chayo was suppose to be killed in a fierce firefight, but I don't think even the government thinks he is dead at this point...Chivis

"a few moments ago the federal forces arrived to the area of the firefight, and are guarding the area, we ask the federal government for more help to continue guarding the tranquility of these nearby towns, and we ask the community of these areas to denounce any movement of the Templars.
 
We didn't reveal the firefight earlier by strategy, now we will tell you the motive: in the ranch of Cofradia we were informed that the principal leaders El Chayo and La Tuta were hiding there, and without thinking further we went and they were indeed there, which is the reason for the prolonged firefight. we continue to ask for more help, they can be found in the mountains of Cofradia and Holanda, we need all kinds of help to avoid them escaping."




On Tuesday afternoon, dozens of members of the self-defense groups took the  Cancita communities and El Carrizo, in the municipality of Tierra Caliente adjacent to Apatzingán. At press time they were about to enter La Cofradía, but a firefight conflict broke out with Templarios, who blocked us.

At 15 hours, about 20 autodefensea turcks entered  Cancita without much resistance, the population of fewer than 500 inhabitants located 10 kilometers Uspero. Four miles further, in the town of El Carrizo,  we detected at least two haclones of the Templars, who were watching.

Informants fled to a hill, one abandoned his motorcycle and the other pulled his gun and radio. At the top of  Cofradía were other armed criminals.

On the radio, autodefenzas  challenged the Templars to go against them. '' Órale bastards, do not be afraid to topón , let's see if they are as bastards as presumed.'' The response was also provocative:''

After a few minutes, the Templarios in a radio broadcast a narcocorrido that exalts the figure of that group. '' Almost always they play it, is like their anthem'' said a autodefensa.  The verbal fight lasted over half an hour.

At the end of the street of El Carrizo on the bridge that separates the small town , criminals crossed a concrete mix truck to prevent the passage of the autodefensa. A few feet away, they made a barricade with several vehicles and distributed to both sides of the road to face the impending attack.

At 17 hours, Knights Templarios launched a grenade, from far from the autodefenzas. A few minutes shooting from the top of the hill where we heard were Templarios , like the autodefensas members who responded to the grenade with weapons as  bursts of goat horns and R-15. Shotguns and pistols also began to detonate.

Although the population of El Carrizo practically already been abandon, two vans left lagging.   In Uspero and The Cancita three families aboard their vehicles were, intended to go to his home in La Cofradía. The same community that stood guard at these locations asked them to go somewhere else, because there was a confrontation.

Uspero neighbors commented that this town, located roadside Cuatro Caminos Apatzingán was taken peacefully a week ago, but they knew that the presence of the Templarios was higher in La Cofradía

For two hours gunfire was heard and now the autodefensas  is waiting to take La Cofradía, although they know that in the course of the night can be an ambush. No reports of casualties or injuries or military or federal police.

Estanislao Beltran autodefensas  coordinator, said the clashes were more than three hours after the community decided to move to Apatzingán. He said his party had no casualties. Just a few days ago the civil guards occupied La Huerta. '' Not only will we take Apatzingán, but any place where they are Templars '' said the call Commander Five .

At press time, the Interior Ministry denied that the shooting and a confrontation in the Parácuaro Township.
Elements of the Federal Police and the Army went to the site to conduct investigations.

UPDATE:
Information from Proceso from a telephone interview with Papa Smurf- who has surfaced as the premier leader since Dr Manuel Mireles was seriously injured in a plane accident....

Spokesman citizen self-defense groups, Estanislao Beltran said the confrontation with members of the criminal group "The Knights Templar" ended yesterday about eleven o'clock at night, after a shootout that lasted just over four hours.  They planned to enter the community because they  intelligence information  that the community was a safe haven for Templarios and was hiding the premier leader La Tuta at a ranch in the community.
He said the conflict lasted from 4:00 to 8:30PM and although they called for help from the feds, help did not arrive until 11:00PM.  Too late to make a difference.


Quote from Poet and Activist Javier Sicilia
In a Telephone interview , Beltran indicated that the Army and the Federal Police arrived on the scene of the confrontation about midnight and it was only then that the shooting stopped by the attackers.

Reported that according to reports from his colleagues who were at the site, the bursts was prolonged by about 20 minutes and then ceased. So for a little over four hours in total.

He said that after the arrival of the police and military forces, Templario attackers reportedly fled. For now, he said, the situation was somewhat reassured.

The confrontation between the self-defense groups and organized crime occurred in communities Cancita and Carrizo, located in the limits of Apatzingán and Parácuaro.

The heavily armed autodefensas tried to move towards Apatzingán city considered enclave of  Caballeros Templarios

 Since last weekend the autodefensas have been  stationed in four communities near Apatzingán, including La Huerta, located less than 10 minutes from the main town.
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CNN Mexico, La jornada, Proceso-Aristegui-Facebook and BB

63 comments:

  1. Im here in nuevo Laredo. There are alot of people talking about this.this could happen here.this could spread across Mexico.if they catch tutu I believe this may be the beginning of the end of cartels that fuck with the people. Because people see that you can beat them and you can beat them easy.

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    1. Ha,ha.punks with guns who decapitate unarmed girls for st muerte ARE cowards.of course the will eventually lose and be executed like the bitches they are.find them,kill them.

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    2. Meanwhile,, u should watch yo sista

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  2. I read "el toro" who was captured in lazaro cardenas was one of top guys yet he is not on list?

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  3. Did you guys see the report with aristegi lady ...where Mireles said that el mayo offered his help to combat the CT

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    1. People in sinaloa need to grow some balls and go after chapo and mayo they are responsible for many many wars that have people running out of towns

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    2. Chapo y El MZ are so ingrained in our culture here in sinaloa that there is no want to get rid of them.....most people approve of them......plus they are not just limited to sinaloa....they are everywhere

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  4. El tio is Willy wonka

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  5. Thank you, Chivis, for gathering all of the details.

    This is huge and the end for these bastards is near.

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  6. I think la Tuta and the CTs are running out of places to hide. If Tuta were smart he would take his money and beat the coop while in the process finding a place to hide. Live the rest of his life in retirement away from cartel activities. The jig is up.

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    1. At this point I doubt he can even get out of the state.

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  7. this is very interesting.these people seem well financed.i think in three months the knights templers will be wiped out.and know other cartel will be able to get in there.what about the poor drug addicts who wont be able to by drugs

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    1. Autodefensas will eventually step up to the plate.. everybodys laughin while ct getting whiped out of michoacan.. but watch what happens when theyre all gone. Yall gon be sorry. Se la van a pelar

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  8. Wow.. much respect to the autodefense.

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  9. Vamos raza agaren a esos cabrones

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    1. Asi es! No se dejan.
      La Raza! Don't forget it.

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  10. Soy Michoacano asta el Tope...

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  11. Chapo guzman ur next...

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  12. Im in california but im on my way

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  13. These bastards are no longer in Michoacan.. The autodefensas should kidnapp their relatives and make them spit out their hideouts.

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  14. Autodefensas are just asking to get killed.Notice Tuta hasn't attacked comunitarios openly throughout the state. He's smart but will use great levels of violence if felt cornered.Autodefensas can't continue this war or hunt for much longer they don't have the money to do so.

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    1. They got plenty of money and if they run out I'll send more.

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    2. You're not the only one who will!

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  15. AD is gonna capture La Tuta and turn them over to the government, hopefully on AD defies Mireles and Moras orders and puts a bullet in his head,BB headline tomorrow, lone AD shoots Tuta while captured, dies while being rushed to hospital

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    1. He should be ruthlessly tortured to death.you better learn psyhological warfare to protect the innocents in the next few years.from future tutas.

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  16. So the comunitarios showed up,capture a hawk (lookout) took his radio and from there they challenge the Templars thru the radio? How awesome is that "caiganle putos vamos a darnos un topon" which roughly translate "come on fuckers,let's get down"

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    1. I bet you it surprised the fuck out of em too

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  17. Denle en su madre a esos jotos

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  18. They should finish with ct and keep going.
    Take as much land back to the people as possible.
    No excuse to be 100% for the narcos and politicos.
    The narco state is really only good for foreign consumers.
    They don't care who dies to supply, so as long as they get high.
    Any community can be destroyed if the narco turns it into a plaza.
    So you have a very nice house,
    Well, you still get front row seats to la balacera,
    And no, the mute button doesn't work,
    Don't try to adjust your television, even if you prefer to change the chanel.
    Oh, and the cartel doesn't apologize for any damage to your property.
    I'd rather be pobre con paz, with no friends or family, in a boring place,
    Than live in a palace, drive a Hummer, and eat the best mariscos y bistec... In hell.

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    1. Well said. So true. Cartel karma is sad, the worst thing that can happen to people and towns. Gringos can't consume enuff space powers & are totally clueless to the fact their party drugs are soaked in bloodshed and human suffering.Mejor es pobre, jodido, pero contento y felice! LEGALIZE THE SH*IT!

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  19. partanles la madre a los templarios AD...eso es todo!! si se puede!! viva Mexico!!

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  20. It is not chayo it is El tio who was or is with tuta. El chayo long dead .....cccccccc

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  21. Hopefully they kill all the templarios. The people and god are protecting the autodefensas.

    Coolest autodefensa fighter quote I ever heard: "We don't die we just regroup in hell to fight the templarios"

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    1. 4:39pm That quote goes back to 1963, the 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, NC.
      ' Paratroopers don't die, they regroup in hell to fight again.'

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  22. Alfredo castillo,"Patancha" epn priista envoy to fix the michoacan mess for vallejo and reyna,with offers of a few municipal police positions"if they pass the confidence examinations",but the AD must turn their weapons and leave it to the delegate to work it out.
    After the paulette case,after getting kicked out of DF police operations,he will probably find the puta tuta's body two years after his death.

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  23. Good kill them all

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  24. Get his ass...I hope he goes out shooting and dying in the process. Cause if he gets aprehended he'll have a chance to get out. That goes for Tuta and every other narcoterrorista en el mundo que se meten con la poblacion y violan sus mujeres.

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  25. as stated in the first paragraph most people do not believe chayo was killed, because he was left with bullet impacts alone for hours his body taken and treated, and he survived.

    Autodefensas say he is alive as well, he has been seen by many people, this is the only case of dead-not dead capos that I believe is credible and he is most likely alive.

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  26. 11:28...yup, I wonder what that could mean? :)

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  27. about it spreading...a friend just sent me an article that an AD group is formed in Coahuila ...the thing is they must be indigenous people to self govern

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    1. Damn, hey chivis can they form a militia though, if its city folk

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  28. Last minute news La Tuta has received
    " Teacher of the Year Award" and El Tio received an Oscar for his willy wanka interpretation.

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  29. La Tuta is here in Chicago. hes passing by as a elotero y tamalero.

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    1. ^ yup hes posted up on 26th street lol.

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  30. thank you chivis and borderland staff for making the hierarchy photo big so people can actually see it. you guys had a lot of problems posting photos so small you cant even read or see it.

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  31. if CDG or CDS enters the fight AD wont be able to hang at all

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    1. A haha haha those 2 bitches can't hang by themselves in their own territory much less MICH.

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  32. hahahahaha!! go on Tuta go out guns blazing so the military and autodefensas can fill your piece of shit ass with bullet holes! go on dude show the world your not a COMPLETE coward.

    Hope they don't just arrest him as he'll avoid prison somehow.

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  34. Rompale la madre a ese pendejo mi gente.

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  35. im so proud of my fellow country brothers michoacanos,saludos dsd Guadalajara.

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  36. All the positions of leadership in the Mexican army must be fired and kicked out, the current commanders are either corrupt or know that corruption is possible without consequences. Current Leadership has deals with the cartels and it's well known. A serious purge needs to happen so the Mexican state doesn't collapse

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  37. epn's envoy,"PATANCHA" has offered the auto defensas or communitary police some municipal police officer positions "if they pass the examinations and qualify"I think they should form the state national guard and kick out of the state all the army officers that sold out to the gangsters the army does not need leaders like that,and the remaining soldiers should know they are being watched and evaluated.
    Pancho villa and zapata,after taking la capital and sitting on the presidential chair at the presidential palace, went back to their home states, leaving the governing to the corrupt greedy devils that prontly plotted their demise and went on to selling the mexican banana repu lic to the best bidder for the last 90 years,governing is serious business, not to be left to the government...
    As the state national guard,the AD or CP should never lay down their weapons, nor accept federal politicians or army officers to come and tell them what to do,much less to boss them around,the public servants should not be bossing the police to abuse the people, they have lost the authority and do not need any room to fuck up again,the federal police have been sent repeatedly to deadly ambushes, (and new army elements too) by their officers,without penalty or investigation,who needs that kind of officers?

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  38. My ex's family is in Zicuiran. Haven't heard from them and am hoping they are safe from the crossfire.

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  39. often there is nothing we can do about altering the size of an image. We can enlarge a little but lose clarity quickly.

    BUT USUALLY if one clicks on an image it will be original size and usually much larger.

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  40. at 10:44 AM
    "Chapo y El MZ are so ingrained in our culture here in sinaloa that there is no want to get rid of them.....most people approve of them"
    Speak some more on that,is that how most of the people feel?I saw the video that Chino Antrax uploaded when the floods happened and they were openly riding around on jeeps and 4wd vehicles with many people looking on.Does everyone know who they are when they step out and is that often?They dont look a-feared at all?Has their money made a difference in terms of enriching Sinaloa in real estate and shops,jobs etc,it looks a lot more,,lets say,modern and capitalistic?

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  41. Does anyone know anything about churintzio mich ?

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  42. Hahahaha its best if all you guys take your head out of your ass. Chayo is not dead, he is more alive than ever
    El Compa Roka

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    1. Why don't you do the honors and start yeah and Lazca is also a live

      Tu madre

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  43. kill la puta i mean la tuta puta.

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  44. Arriba mis Templarios Putos!!!

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  45. Hahah they messed with the wrong guys avocado farms

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