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Kiki Camarena executed on orders of the CIA?

Sunday, October 13, 2013 |

El Diario de Coahuila (10-13-13) Proceso (10-12-13) By Luis Chaparro and J. Jesus Esquivel

Translated by un vato for Borderland Beat

(This story will likely elicit much discussion, especially given the outrage that Caro Quintero's release triggered in the U.S. Quien sabe?-- un vato) 

A story that sounds like it was taken from a complex espionage novel has just exploded on U.S. television.  Enrique Kiki Camarena, the DEA law enforcement officer murdered in Mexico in February, 1985, was apparently not the victim of the Mexican capo Rafael Caro Quintero, but rather,, of a dark member of the CIA. This individual was the one charged with silencing the anti-narcotics agent for one serious reason: he had discovered that Washington was associated with the drug trafficker and was using the profits from the drug trafficking to finance the activities of the counterrevolution.

WASHINGTON (Proceso)(apro).-- Three former U.S. federal agents decided to end a 28-year silence and simultaneously entrusted this journal and the U.S. Fox news services with an information "bomb": Enrique Kiki Camarena was not murdered by Rafael Caro Quintero -- the capo that served a sentence for that crime -- but by an agent of the CIA. The reason: the DEA agent discovered that his own government was collaborating with the Mexican narco in his illegal business.

In interviews with Proceso, Phil Jordan, former director of the El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC); Hector Berrellez, former DEA agent, and Tosh Plumlee, a former CIA pilot, claim that they have evidence that the U.S. government itself ordered the murder of Kiki Camarena in 1985. In addition, they point to a sinister Cuban character, Felix Ismael Rodriguez, as the murderer.

"It was I who directed the investigation into the death of Camarena", says Berrellez, and he adds: "During this investigation, we discovered that some members of a U.S. intelligence agency, who had infiltrated the DFS (the Mexican Federal Security Directorate), also participated in the kidnapping of Camarena. Two witnesses identified Felix Ismael Rodriguez. They (witnesses) were with the DFS and they told us that, in addition, he (Rodriguez) had identified himself s "U.S. intelligence."
     

The official story and the version that the DEA continues to assert is that Caro Quintero kidnapped, tortured and murdered Kiki Camarena in February of 1985, in retaliation for the U.S.  agent having discovered his enormous marijuana farms and his processing center in the El Bufalo ranch. 

Felix Ismael Rodriguez, "El Gato", has one of the murkiest histories in the U.S. intervention in Central America, mainly in Nicaragua. To this Cuban -- who participated in the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and after that, in the Vietnam War --  is attributed the capture, and therefore the assassination, of Che Guevara in Bolivia on October 9, 1967.

Helping the capo

Interviewed separately, Jordan, Berrellez and Plumlee coincide on many details in the reconstruction of the events that led the CIA to decide to eliminate Camarena.

The story that the three former agents describe begins with pointing out that El Gato Rodriguez, in addition to having infiltrated the DFS, took a Honduran named Juan Mata Ballesteros, a person known to Colombian traffickers, with him to Mexico.

In Mexico, according to the interviewees, Matta's mission was to obtain drugs in Colombia for the Guadalajara Cartel, led by Caro Quintero in the 1980's. The U.S. government allowed the Mexican drug trafficker to sell cocaine, marijuana and other drugs wherever he wanted. Washington benefited, since it shared the profits.

The portion of the money received by the CIA -- represented in Mexico by Rodriguez through Mata -- was delivered to counterrevolutionaries in Nicaragua, La Contra, in the form of weapons and other military equipment. This is how the U.S. financed the guerrilla war against the Sandinista regimen, then led by the current president of the Central American country, Daniel Ortega.

Death sentence

In his investigations into the drug trafficking activities that Caro Quintero led, Camarena discovered the role that his government played in the illegal business to finance the Contras. And this, in the opinion of the interviewees, was his death sentence.

"The CIA ordered the kidnapping and torture of 'Kiki' Camarena, and when they killed him, they made us believe it was Caro Quintero in order to cover up all the illegal things they were doing (with drug trafficking) in Mexico" emphasizes Jordan. He adds: "The DEA is the only (federal agency) with the authority to authorize drug trafficking into the United States as part of an undercover operation".

The former chief of EPIC, the largest espionage center in the United States dedicated to observing what happens in Mexico and the common border, and who was also a DEA agent and Camarena's boss when he was murdered, sums up in a quote what the discovery of its involvement in Mexican drug trafficking represented to the CIA:

"The business with El Bufalo was nothing compared with the money from the cocaine that was being sold to buy weapons for the CIA".

However, "Kiki" Camarena was not the only one nor was he the first to discover the perverse CIA-Caro Quintero-Contra triangle.

The Mexican judicial police officer


Berrellez and Jordan maintain that the first person to inform of this incredible U.S. undercover espionage operation in the early 1980's was Guillermo Gonzalez Calderoni, who was then the chief of the Mexican Federal Judicial Police.

Gonzalez Calderoni fled from Mexico in 1993; he was accused of collaborating with the Juarez Cartel and he sought refuge in the United States, where the DEA turned him into a protected witness. In 2003, the former Mexican commander was murdered in McAllen, Texas.

-- I helped him, I sent a jet and brought him to California. Over here, now under DEA protection, he became an informant and helped us a lot. The Mexican government wanted to extradite him, but I did all I could to prevent that because I knew they would kill him over there. After that, he was accused of corruption and illegal influences and things like that, but I'm telling you: it's not true -- Berrellez states.

-- And that's how he told you about the CIA? -- he's asked.

-- Yes. He told me: 'Hector, get out of this business because they're going to fuck you over. The CIA is involved in that business about 'Kiki'. It's very dangerous for you to be in this.' He gave me names, among them that of Felix, and details and everything, but when my bosses found out, they took me out of the investigation and sent me to Washington.

The twist to the story about the kidnapping, torture and murder of "Kiki" Camarena "is a bombshell". What is not clear is why these three former U.S. agents waited 28 years to make it known. They refuse to explain it.

He doesn't talk much


Plumlee, although he doesn't talk much, recalls that in the early 1980's he flew a C-130 airplane to take people from the Contras to receive training at a ranch that Caro Quintero owned in Veracruz.

-- I flew drugs on CIA airplanes and I knew the pilot that took Caro Quintero out of the country when he was being persecuted by the government.

-- Did you know "Kiki" Camarena? -- Plumlee is asked.

-- He flew, before he was kidnapped, from Guadalajara to California to inform about the CIA operations with narcos and the Nicaraguan Contras in Mexico, and I remember I said to him "We're on the same team. Stay out of what I'm doing".

-- What else were you doing for the CIA at that time?

-- The United States government was into everything. We smuggled drugs, weapons, and we used the money to finance the operation in Nicaragua.

-- How was your contract in all of this?

-- We were always subcontractors; that's why the CIA now said we didn't have those operations. But it's all there...  

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109 Borderland Beat Comments:

Anonymous said...

It does not surprise me i know the cartels are working for the real kingpins they are just like ups

26-year LEO said...

To knowingly murder an American LEO who was just performing his sworn duties smacks of corruption and collusion at the highest levels of government. Too often, armchair "warriors" lacking in actual experience make decisions that they justify in their pea sized brains because they believe it is best for the long term interests of the nation and the world at large. Don't allow Washington to cover this up America! Demand the truth and don't stand for typical double talk BS! We owe it to SA Camarena, Agent Brian Terry of USBP and their families. These agents were performing their sworn duties in defense of our nation. Just as Army Ranger Pat Tillman did. If what is now being discovered the truth, then we as a people must stand up to appointed and elected officials. Civil disobedience is often the only way to force change in a society and the government elected to represent us. It's time for a change, where Washington politicians do what they were elected to do, listen to the average American and not just the special interest groups or those with deep pockets.

Anonymous said...

We have commented about how drugs are introduced ,who allows them and how money for wars is funded , look at Mexico 2006 to now drug war , production sky rocketed, weapons sell skyrocketed , trafficking , murders on both side. even a Blind person cab see

Anonymous said...

If you have followed the whole case, it was obvious who the real assassins were. If you listen to Caro's corridos, he throws it out there too. This is bad for business. When Caro was locked up he still made millions, lived like a king. Still doing his thing. Caro was never out of the game, he was untouchable like before, more safe than ever under government protection the whole time. Do you think someone as smart as Caro doesn't have evidence of all this being stated?

Anonymous said...

a great hollywood fairy tale question question question question why after 28 years tell this story yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Anonymous said...

This story is the biggest story.this is why every body selling drugs is justified.the ones who try put you in prison for it are doing it.

Anonymous said...

smoke cannabis and be happy;)

Anonymous said...

I believe it. C.I.A worked with Manuel Noriega, Vicente Zambada jr., Ricky Ross, and Heriberto Lazcano, who unlike Vicente Zambada had everything in writing or video, because of his intel backround. Lazcano is still U.S Dept of justice website, $5 million reward.

Anonymous said...

It was C.I.A David Morales who captured Che Guevara. Felix Rodriguez was a gofer for David Morales, who was one of the masterminds of both Kennedy assasinations. Felix Rodriguez has a lot of public photos with George C.I.A Bush in the white house

Anonymous said...

Im not surprised in the least. .. the united states has this holier than thou attitude but are corrupt at a much grander scale than most countries!

Anonymous said...

Demmit this will be interesting. Heads will be rolling if statements are true.

Anonymous said...

.......cant see story it doesnt show up on pc or phone!

Anonymous said...

We in the u.s knew something was shady about the ollie north/ronald reagan contra scandal all along.the CIA is the dirtiest mofos of all.wonder how long it will be before they make snowden disappear? I love my country but dammit this kind of shit makes me ashamed of our gvt when shit like this happens!!!

Anonymous said...

What the hell.. this just got even better... and they say mexico corrupt it all started here in u.s.

Anonymous said...

u c raffa was telling the truth... u.s is the same shitt as mexico!!!!

Anonymous said...

great post and would like to know more to this and I bet there is a lot more to this story!!

Anonymous said...

There just like z40.kill the muther fuckers who get in there way.now who do cheer for when everybody is the same.

Anonymous said...

Boom... All part of the "deep" history of our United States. Jimmy Carter fires almost 1,000 clandestine operators from the CIA because of backlash from Watergate, the Church Commission, and other congressional insights into the nasty activities of the intelligence services... These fired operatives, led by George H.W. Bush, William Casey, and others found a candidate who would bring back and even geometrically expand covert and general military and defense activities (Reagan)... They made a deal with the Iranian's to keep the hostages until the day Reagan began his term, their part was to sell Iran arms through ISRAEL despite the embargo... If the hostages were let go in November like they were going to be, Carter would have won (Look into Operation Eagleclaw, supposedly mechanical and unforeseen weather problems made the mission a failure... Maybe, but Oliver North was directing the Operation... There is evidence of sabotage)...Iran Contra hearings were a joke, nothing real was uncovered. The weapons going to Iran were from the earlier deal with the election. The money going to the Contra's was mostly from THE DRUG TRAFFIC (in addition to the CIA getting countries like Saudi Arabia and Brunei to illegally finance American foreign policy that our congress had denied). American policy in regards to the drug traffic is and was never to eradicate it, but to control and profit from it. Escobar, Carillo Fuentes, Guzman, or any of these guys never were at the top of the traffic, they were cogs in a machine. Richard Secord and Oliver North, and others, made a fortune in the drug business in the 1980's. Look into a company called Far West and the names Anton Surikov, Vladimir Filin, and Ruslan Saidov... These are some the biggest narco's in the world. Granted they might not push the sheer volume of traffic as Chapo, but I would think the main goal would be to push as much as you can without dying or going to prison (even self imposed prison's, as in Chapo's case) These guys met with Joe Biden in 2008. I mean, it's pretty common knowledge the Mexican's launder a substantial amount of $ through the Russians... Who really knows but common thought is that Russians get as much as 40%... Who are the biggest criminals in the world, Mexican narco's with their armies and decapitation video's or the guys who own the banks where the money goes... Chapo even tried to enter the Russian market and got told to leave quickly. He complied, which is funny given his wars in Tijuana, Nuevo Laredo, Tamulipas, Juarez... Maxim Sheaib is sitting back laughing at the war in Mexico... Also, the Mexican War had less to do with TCO's fighting over trafficking routes, as their is enough for everyone (like New York)... All about showing the world that letting the traffik through peacefully is better than 100,000+ dead in 8 years... Plus those videos....

Anonymous said...

The really funny thing is just how many idiots will actually take this bullshit seriously.

Anonymous said...

U.S. did same thing in Indochina in the 60's and 70's... Central America in the 70's and 80's... Colombia in the 1990's... Afghanistan in 70's, 80's, and 90's, and Chechnya in 90's and 2000's.... Baghdad never saw heroin until 2003, what does that infer?... A DEA agent had the bodyguard of the Mexican president (Zedillo? someone help me out here) offering transportation services, "guaranteed delivery for special merchandise", as well as the grandson of a signer of the Mexican Constitution.... The administration of the DEA alerted the Justice Dept because of the gravity of the situation, and Reagan's Attorney General Meese called the Mexican president to warn him of the set up... Covered it up as saying it would have endangered relations with our ally, but anyone can see what was and is going on... Clinton got rich and powerful by letting the CIA traffic drugs and guns indiscriminately at a small airport in the mountains called Mena... This is all documented stuff...The recently proposed hit operation on Chapo by the DEA Spec Op group was denied because he is and has been (at least since he went to prison in 1993) a CIA informant, not because his death would create instability and more violence. Really? This is they guy who started wars all over the country that have taken the lives of over 100,000??? But we killed the 16 year old son of Anwar Awlaki with a drone strike, not as collateral damage but as an independent target from his father? That is also why he is the last real Mexican Capo standing, along with Zambada and Azul...If we really wanted to kill any of these guys we could hack into his car and create an accident... If you don't believe me look what Clinton's Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke said about the ability of "certain state intelligence" services to hack into any car with onstar, a nav system, blue tooth, cruise control, anything that connects to a signal really, and take control of the car's functions and do what the driver really doesn't want the car to do... Crazy stuff but my point is that we can kill anybody we want to relatively quickly, even if the rumor of 300 Talibanes was true (it's not)... The Mexican DTO's are not at the top of the Drug Traffic, (well not all, some are more highly connected than others), it is the groups that are connected to either intelligence services or rogue parts of them... It has been this way for quite some time...

Anonymous said...

Crazy cuz Obama silences whistelblowers and reporters for giving up anything the people need and should know. We need more of these leaks. True Patriots, True Americans.

Anonymous said...

Oh my God! America is just like Mexico.. now please stop coming here.

Anonymous said...

The whole story is bullshit these so called whistleblower just want to publish the story or boook and make a lot of money. CIA could have ordered the Mexican government not to raid the ranch or ordered the DEA to stop.

Anonymous said...

Tin foil hats for sale! Get your tin foil hats here! Buy one conspiracy theory, get another for free!

Anonymous said...

The CIA is working directly with the IT indian companies lunderying money through 100 Fortune Companies. Including banks.

http://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/2013/10/12/923092#.Ull7jH53XOk.twitter

The CIA is working directly with the IT indian companies lunderying money through 100 Fortune Companies. Including banks.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/bombshell-ex-cia-agent-claims-obama-breitbart-clancy-killed/

Anonymous said...

If the US did did not buy the Drugs, don't blane Mx we use them

Anonymous said...

That's why Holder wasn't prosecuted or even fired for Fast & Furious... Who would believe that crazy story that they were giving the cartels all of these AR15's and M 50 cal's to "track" them?? They were arming the cartels to go to war with each other and send a message, which is do not attempt to stop the Traffik, don't even talk about it. As to 8:50, the CIA did not work with Ricky Ross and no one has reasonably claimed they did. They financed the Contra's and helped them get their product into the country, but they were not involved in distribution. There were no CIA officers in LA meeting with Ross or any other wholesalers and the late Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury News never made that connection, only that Ross's main connect was linked to the CIA an "agent", not a Case Officer, which are easily confused. A CIA "agent" is a foreign national that is giving information or working for the agency, either for financial gain or political ideology. I believe this misuse of the term has confused a lot of people. A CIA agent works with, nor for the CIA. They did work with Noriega, quite extensively. Although Chapo and Zambada do seem to have connections to U.S. intelligence, I highly doubt Vicente ever had contact with a CIA Officer. Obviously the DEA, but not CIA. None of the Zeta's ever had U.S. intelligence connections. Osiel Cardenas formed the Zeta's so he did not have to answer to the governmental drug traffiking structures in place... If he was not such an egomaniac the traffic would have continued the same as it had in the past, ultimately under government control ... Ioan Grillo gives a good summary of this in El Narco... The old leaders of CDG and Sinaloa, including part of the old Juarez Cartel (which was really a branch of the Sinaloa/Guadalajara organizational tree, i.e. the Beltran Levya brothers and El Azul) are the only recent Mexican's that have deep intelligence ties... Look at Chapo's attempted entry into Russia, they told him to stay in his place and he invaded Juarez instead...

Anonymous said...

"The police? No! The APPEARANCE of the law must be upheld. Especially while it's being broken."
-William H. Taft

Anonymous said...

In Mexico its common knowledge that North and Caro worked together. North flew drugs to the US out of Caros ranch in Veracruz and returned with firearms, unloaded and returned to the US with more drugs. All this was done in US Airplanes, Caro would deliver the firearms to Nicaragua Contras. What is surpriseing is that US citizens are so ignorant of what their Govt does and its common knowledge in the rest of the world. You are governed by some of the most corrupt leaders in the world.

Anonymous said...

Sandy Bario was another DEA operative murdered in suspicious circumstances... He was a DEA guy arrested for being involved with the Traffik, was sitting in a Texas county jail awaiting sentencing and he allegedly was threatening to make statements saying everything he did was under the orders of his superiors and CIA counterparts, which he never did substantiate... But he died after eating a sandwich in prison laced with Strychnine.... No one was ever prosecuted for it... Obviously didn't get tortured and sodomized liked Camarena but still hard to argue that this was natural (allergic reaction to peanut butter that he had never experienced before?), or an accident (Strychnine in a sandwich?) The other natural explanation would be that the cartel he was working with killed him through connections with a U.S. prison gang like Barrio Azteca, ostensibly to keep him from revealing anything about their operations or further connections to governmental structures... But if that was the case then why wouldn't that come out in the press, as that surely was a plausible explanation? Instead it was recorded as some sort of allergic reaction, which would lead one to believe that there was an attempt to close the file and make it go away without any diligent inquiry... Not as well known as Camarena but considerably more alarming because the murder happened while the victim was in the custody of the government.

Anonymous said...

blablabla is this any surprise?

El_Negro said...

The first paragraph says it all. The drug game is run by Washington. Makes the most money keeps the people "happy" it's still around. All are corrupt in Washington. The people are just the ones that are te bravest to be traficantes. Arriva mi Sinaloa!

Anonymous said...

CIA = Cartel IN America nothing more nothing less all this war on drugs is to control and exploit the drug game .

Anonymous said...

That's the dumbest shit I ever heard

Anonymous said...

Wow man, don't you understand ? Caro is a nobody and never was... same goes to chapo and his people... nothing but puppets he take all the heat from the real drugpins... you fool !

Anonymous said...

Strange, nothing being reported about this on US news websites....

Anonymous said...

Given more recent events like: (1) Fast and Furious, (2) Benghazi, (3) IRS tactics against the TEA Party, and (4) various other indications of "police state", it is "probably" true about CIA involvements in torturing and killing Kiki.

About torturing Kiki, I want to know exactly why was this done, and who ordered it ....

I have always been extra skeptical about bad allegations against the USA, but, of late, I am having trouble doing this.
Mexico-Watcher

Anonymous said...

CIA (corrupted in america)

Anonymous said...

tsk tsk , the stories concocted, when one writes a book, as this scumbag did.

Anonymous said...

Great article !!

Anonymous said...

vicenete zambada was the dumbest from all of them!! Raffa was smart played the game right back at them protected him self... Arturo el barbas use to record all meetings and phone calls they had with mex and u.s gov!!! sorry nino..

Anonymous said...

an explosive story - but it could be absolutely wrong. in the event that a CIA agent did this ... it would be a rogue agent. and he would move to the top of Washington's hit list. There is NO way that Washington DC would order such an event.

it's just as likely that this story is a complete fabrication - for the purposes of selling a new book. sad, but not unknown these days.

Anonymous said...

Vicente was dumbest from all of them! Raffa really new how to play the game right back ..Arturo el barbas use too record all phone calls and meetings they had with mex and u.s... got to have some back up just incase shitt hits the fan sorry nino

Anonymous said...

I pointed journalists for the New York Times, Washington Post, and Dallas Morning News to this story. Let's see if it gets any traction in the U.S. Press.

AmigoAnónimo said...

The USA should be USH instead: United States of HYPOCRISY.

Extinct is the government OF the people, BY the people, and FOR the people. Common NONSENSE rules, while common sense has perished. American politicians are lying sacks of crap, who don't give a damn about their very own countrymen; shame on them and may they all be damned to HELL. I could go on, but y'all get the idea.

Hasta luego,
AmigoAnónimo

Anonymous said...

fuck you admin for not posting my reply to that redneck "26 year LEO" asshole

Anonymous said...

BB claims to be unbiased but you completely regulate and pick and choose what comments you post and only if you agree with them, otherwise if someone challenges what you all believe, you wont post it...typical thats why no real new outlets will refer to BB, you have your own agenda just like all the other ones

Anonymous said...

What a retarted comment.So Waite,Rafael CQ and Arturo BL were smarter,one did 28 yrs and the other is dead.

Anonymous said...

More drugs are coming to the gringos then ever before why?there more border patrol there five govt agencies working in the border but still more drugs are coming in why?columbia is working with dea agent to destroy coke crops and yet more drugs are coming in why?

Anonymous said...

To respond to 6:46, I would disagree with your point that an event like this involving the CIA would have to be the work of a "rogue" agent who would be targeted and eliminated quickly by the U.S. military or intelligence services. There are quite a few events that would in fact go against this thinking... The Arkansas Train murders in the 1980's are an example of at least a cover up if not preemptive murder, in concealing the fact that the CIA and DIA was using the Mena airport, with the complicity of then Governor Clinton, to fly in drugs from and fly out guns to Nicaragua...A more concrete example of people high in the government possibly approving killing U.S. citizens would be the May 1984 bombing of a news conference in Costa Rica where a U.S. journalist was killed... Lot's of evidence that Richard Secord (General) and at least as high as the office of National Security Advisor Admiral Poindexter had ties to this... And to say only "rogue" agents would be involved with the drug traffic would be incorrect as well... A DEA operative posed as an American Italian mafia family member and negotiated "guaranteed delivery of special merchandise" through Mexico with a bodyguard of President Zedillo and a grandson of a signer of the Mexican constitution... Due to the gravity of the situation the DEA administration alerted their bosses in the Justice Dept before moving ahead with the sting... Attorney General Edwin Meese alerted Zedillo and ruined the operation, no prosecutions... Although the official excuse was that the operation would upset foreign relations with an ally, the reality of this situation would suggest that the Reagan administration was not interested in stopping the drug traffic through Mexico. Meese was never declared "rogue". Follow the drugs and you will find drug dealers. Follow the money and you don't know where it will lead... Anybody interested in this in the more recent past should read about fired and legally silenced FBI translator Sibel Edmonds or FBI financial investigator Indira Singh... U.S. government officials at the highest levels have been involved with high level drug traffic, money laundering, and murder, among other things like selling all kinds technology to the highest bidders, wherever they are, for profit. The current financial system connects our Govt to the highest echelons of organized crime, as well as the terrorists themselves... If anything, this beast has grown and evolved over the last 30 years...

Anonymous said...

No way washington wouldnt order this??? Bush Sr. Ran the "enterprise" as head of the CIA, he knew all about Iran-contra and ollie north. The top guys have ordered hits on many people, it wouldn't be the first time this was done to protect their intetests. Tosh Plumlee broke the fast and furious operation to the media.

Anonymous said...

Please, David Morales? Get a library card! THE ROAD TO DALLAS is the most complete account of the Kennedy brothers' murders. Miami Right Wingnut Cubans, Poppy Bush's inherited hate for the Kennedy family, another batch of right wing Texan & Mexican dickheads had their sights on killing JFK, the $ & the means, but the US Italian Mafia out of Miami beat the rest of them to the punch. When, his death was approaching, the Miami Capo de Capos told the author they killed JFK &RFK. It'd been Bobby the mob had the issues w/ during his stint as US Attorney General & his organised crime task force. Giancarno said that it was Bobby he wanted dead. The old mobster even stated, "We never should have killed the President, he was a sweet fellow." The murder of El Che falls to his ol' buddy, Fidelito HP Mal Parrido Castro. A dyed in the wool double ring tailed asshole. Castro uses & trashes people. See Carlos Franqi's book , (Retrato De Un Monstro). Franqi was a popular student leader, later, Castro's minister of propaganda, who died while exiled in Spain. Castro has no loyaltie except to the man in the mirror. Used El Che, was pathologically jealous of the handsome doctor, & genuine revolutionary, had him killed for fear Che could replace him. General Ochoa, a Cuban war hero, (Angola, Mozambique)& major player in Castro's drug biz, goes on to be executed by firing squad after being convicted of drug trafficking.

Anonymous said...

the only thing I don't like , cause all of this a lot of my Mexican people is been killed for shit like this , think about it people , cartels my be doing a U S a favor by killing all this Mexican people just saying

Anonymous said...

So people like stan smith do work for the cia lol

Anonymous said...

Arturo BL never had any conversations or meetings with U.S. intelligence operatives that he could have recorded; they way he died can show us that, with his pants around his ankles and money thrown over his body...El Barbas had no leverage over any U.S. intelligence operative or he would not have gone down in the way he did. It does not work that way, the guys that operate in that world on the Govt side are not stupid, might be morally ambiguous but they are not going to let psychotic egotistical drug warlords have any leverage over them, with the connections and resources they have behind them... It works the other way around, these guys communicate through many layers to manipulate the traffik. Very few guys know who they are actually working with, but they do know they are getting operational and communication security. Work's the same way on the cartel side, it is very compartmentalized at certain levels... Remember when it came out that the Zeta's were buying most of their product from the Guatemalan cartels because they thought the Colombians and Venezuelans were too infiltrated by U.S. intelligence? And then there is the CIA supported Cartel of the Suns in Venezuela... High level Venezuelan military and intelligence figures that convinced the CIA they were against Chavez and his Govt and given free reign to traffic cocaine to raise "operational funds" to oppose the communist Govt... But in reality all they were and ever will be are drug traffikers, taking advantage of the political situation, just like the ruling clique in Afghanistan. The U.S. will support entrepreneurs (meaning drug producers and traffikers) everywhere if they convince us they are fighting our enemies... A famous common saying all over the Islamic world (funny, because it applies to us just as much in history and the recent past) is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Strange logic but turns out to be true most of the time, and that is why certain international drug traffikers (not Mexican's) are so openly politically powerful and truly untouchable...

Anonymous said...

Agree this book has to be revisionist history for hire. The seriously derranged CIA doesn't give orders to DEA. The State Dept does. Technically, CIA answers to no one, not even the Executive branch.

Anonymous said...

It's not the nature of the merchandise that creates the monster, it's the market. Diabolic substances are a fantasy of romantics & bankers. It's people who decide how they make use of the substances & the money. Not the other way around.

Anonymous said...

I'm hoping this is not true, for if it is we are all fucked.

ninjasandpurp said...

LOL THIS IS SUCH BS...BB IS TURNING INTO FRIGGING MUNDO NARCO!!!

Anonymous said...

At this point what difference does it make ?

Anonymous said...

Carolina quintero is making up all this story?
maybe,he and his cronies did kill camarena, on whose's orders?that what these people are talking about,who was the boss at the CIA during that time? he or they sure knew about what was going on under Reagan/bush/CIA.

Anonymous said...

11:27,the REALLY funny part is how some
"people"try to disinform. as those us government agents are naming names,facts and dates,so should the naysayers,defend your pimps with some facts if that is not too much to ask...

Anonymous said...

All the money flows from Mexico to the us, the people just follow the money,and it is an excellent proposition,now the us has the slaves,cheap labor from the braceros and the money!what is going to happen if Mexico defaults or refuses to keep up with paying its "foreign debt obligations"?keep out needs to keep pissing on his shoes in the closet his world fits in...for a long time,us intelligence agencies have been at each other's throats,kicking each other on the shins under the table,now they are punching each other on the snouts which is BEERRY FUNNY!!!

Anonymous said...

C.I.A., Had a plane that crashed with Sinaloa cocaine 3 months before zambada got arrested.Vicente Zambada was in charge of logistics. The pilot was a C.I.A operative. The tail number of the plane was confirmed that it was a C.I.A plane. C.I.A has authority to play in other countries. DEA if you play in anthor country and get caught,plausable deniability.

Anonymous said...

The one good thing is that the us still allows shit like this to come out,what is not a conspiracy theory is that when Cuba was caught drug trafficking,general of Cuban air force arnaldo Ochoa did not rat his bosses the Castro brothers,and did not hide behind his dirty uniform to escape punishment,no 5th to invoke,still died like a man...unlike OLIVER NORTH.and that is no "conspiracy theory"!tinfoil robots,keep trying to peddle your crap,you are just like Lee Harvey Oswald, worse than a murderer,a patsy...

Anonymous said...

Man!how dare you use an illustrious American icon to stick it to other Americans?that is "unchristian",uncalled for,and beautiful,very good to see wise asses contributing something worthwhile.@1:05

Anonymous said...

I thought BB was better than this. This is fabrication from a guy who writes books.

How gullible. Look at the solid info, audio, crime scene, testimony and recorded conversations. and the hard evidence. and then look at this bs, fiction writing bullshit. shame you for perpetuating such crap.

Anonymous said...

The us govt don't know nothing,it is all on the special agents that use other special agents to confuse errybody with the facts latter on,Ollie did not fly any planes anywhere,he chicken,his special agents without proveable connections did,as has been proven and testified by all kind of witnesses and facts,in court even!

Anonymous said...

Maybe someone should not be giving the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF NORTH AMERICA,BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA a hard time;on our way to hell,amid the continued selling down the river of the US, we could try and get along...while informed.

Anonymous said...

first the fake manta story and now this? based on fake information by two book whores?

BB has merged with BDN

Anonymous said...

12:47 it is highly dubious that the people at the top knows everything that goes on,but the NRA,the gun lobby and the gun manufacturers,they know where their money comes from,and how to keep it coming,they also know how to silence the government,and specially those in charge of governing,ask the Kennedy's and others...

Anonymous said...

AmigoAnonimo are you quoting that crazy bitch whoopie Goldberg?
"a lying sack of dog shit"?'cause more than half America agrees!

Anonymous said...

Phil Jordan is a self centered money hungry dumb ass

Anonymous said...

So what would be a jury verdict if Caro Quintero stood trial in the U.S. and had Phil Jordan testified on his behalf...

Anonymous said...

This appears to be the Fox article in question: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/10/us-intelligence-assets-reportedly-played-role-in-capture-dea-agent-in-mexico/
and the one from Proceso:
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=355283
Nowhere do I see in the interviews with these three men that the CIA "ordered" anyone killed. The fact that U.S. agencies are sometimes deliberately blind to the wrongdoings of their drug-dealing informants and political cooperators is nothing new in itself. How many years ago did Gary Webb lay all this out in public?

Anonymous said...

You are wrong, the DEA is part of and answers to the Justice Dept, as is the FBI. The Justice Dept is part of the executive branch. The CIA used to be its own part of the Executive breach but now is part of the Office of National Intelligence... ICE is under Dept of Homeland Security... These are all executive branch depts

Anonymous said...

Viva raffa!!!!

Anonymous said...

The readers' responses to this article reveal more about the problem than the story does. A good example is the Fast and Furious program. This program got kicked around as a political football - especially by the pro-gun lobby in America. There was - and continues to be - almost a rabid fascination with that program.

The truth is that the Justice Department was trying to undertake a valid mission - to curb the sale of guns to Mexican cartels. There NEVER was an attempt to stop legal gun ownership in the USA. All the hoopla surrounding that "failure" is nothing but media paranoia by the pro-gun lobby. And as always - it's more about money than rights.

How else can the DOJ run a program to trace weapons flowing what the USA to Mexico - except by introducing weapons into the supply line? What do you expect Eric Holderr to do .. go down to the cartels and ask them to display their weapons "Pretty Please"? There is an inherent risk in a program of that sort that some of those weapons will be mis-used. Of course they will be - they are going into the hands of the cartels. But the point is that if the program had been continued, the flow of the weapons could have been traced. The pro-gun lobby never stepped up to the plate and offered to help identify the unscrupulous US dealers who make a fat check and sell to cartel agents. Please don't post idiotic replies about "gun rights" - I am as pro-gun as anybody. But people need to stop and think, instead of bleating the same old paranoia.

Sadly, because of failures like Fast and Furious - the US Gov't may become more cautious. This couldn't happen at a worse time. The cartels are highly active and more drugs keep flowing across the US/Mex border. The DOJ needs to be bolder and keep looking at fresh approaches. Public sentiment is not helpful.

SmileyFarmer said...

If corruption did not exist, then, no one would have a Job in Law enforcement, so the cycle of death will continue, forever and ever, at least here on earth.

Anonymous said...

12:03 been a while bitch,ran out of gas motherfucker?

Anonymous said...

Arturo Beltran did not accept the C.I.A's infiltration thats why they wiped him out they were following him and targeting since 2008 he survived many ambushed until they cornered him in Cuernavaca and was showed as a pawn to prove nobody is above the New World Order. He put up a better fight than anyone has though R.I.P Botas Blancas

Anonymous said...

A government of the people,by the people,for the people,is being turned to:
A government of the people,by the government,for the rich...

Anonymous said...

The CIA is Mundo narco...

Anonymous said...

How about a link to the actual article

AmigoAnónimo said...

Anonymous @ October 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM"

"This couldn't happen at a worse time. The cartels are highly active and more drugs keep flowing across the US/Mex border. The DOJ needs to be bolder and keep looking at fresh approaches. Public sentiment is not helpful."

Public sentiment is not helpful? Doing stupid shi+ is not helpful.Like putting guns in the pipeline; IE, NOT helpful, it's STUPID.

Hell, the Drug War is STUPID. How many DECADES need to go by before proponents [aka MORONS] realize that legislating what people WISH TO CONSUME can never be legislated against. FORTY TWO [42] Years of Drug War, and counting.

It's not about the drugs anymore. They will remain ubiquitous as long as there are humans in existence. The whole point is profit:

The Military Industrial Complex [Remember Eisenhower's speech?]
The Prison Industrial Complex [Nixon's TRUE LEGACY]

PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK. So we know that Prohibition only exists to [A] Feed the Prison Industrial Complex AND [B] To fund clandestine/covert/illegall revolutions in other people's countries.

Get a Clue, PLEASE; for the love of all that is good & righteous.

Hasta luego,
AmigoAnónimo

Anonymous said...

Tell that to the person who gets his family killed by a stoned out driver, or a drunk driver.

Anonymous said...

Ask the Kennedys? Really? You trust that bunch of lying thieves? Fantasy lovers, with velvet JFK paintings over the votive candles.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure E. Holder appreciates your apologies on his behalf. Please, send him a nice fruit basket and leave the rest of us out of the Obama administration love fest. Try a little honesty. With yourself.

AmigoAnónimo said...

¡¿Que paso con mi último comentario?!
Pongamelo por favor, no hablo mal de nadie.

Gracias,
AmigoAnónimo

Anonymous said...

@7:48 p.m maybe your language wasnt fit to print.its not what u say but how u say it.that makes a BIG difference!!

Anonymous said...

Could BB use volunteer editors to present clean versions of some of your@#$%&,and *&%$#@ bloggers?there may be some jewels of wisdom,great writers have been known to be big dirty mouths,but genial with their aspersions,I for one thank you for the hospitality,BB.By the way innkeeper of a better BB than you,
Brigitte Bardot,agree?

Anonymous said...

Before all this crime and killing started,the USA started building the great Chinese wall on the border with Mexico,I highly suspect the us knew something bad was about to happen,and the us wanted to contain the spillover...

Anonymous said...

9:14 quitting time,stop misleading,if the dea or CIA or other former intelligence associates want to share,it is their prerrogative,let the big boys defend themselves,are you their agent?

Anonymous said...

Carolina quintero would be judged for drug trafficking,money laundering,and the
murder of kiki camarena,not for ordering the hit

Anonymous said...

AmigoAnonimo,you happy now?pinchi chillon, send your manifesto so we can get to know you better,sooner and quick,make it short and to the point....

Anonymous said...

3:31 Them kennedys with velvet in their caskets got silenced didn'they? Marilyn would be a fantasy to meet,I don't fantasize about men with tinfoil to sell...as for thieves,blackwater and halliburton and those trying to "privatize" governmental operations to steal twice the money for half the services,they really stomping else!

Anonymous said...

When people believe in conspiracy theories you are seen as nutjob,in reality its all done to make you think you are actually crazy for even thinking like that,its all mind control and mind games, Wake Up People and smel the roses!!! At the end its the little things that matter R.I.P. to all the Mexicans(Humans) lost in this war all for what????mineral Rights????get a grip people and quit being sheep!!!!

Anonymous said...

Snowden is an intel op.i bet u think ventura also is real.duh

Anonymous said...

Nope. Nice try, tho. CIA answers to no one, it's designed that way. Ask your boss.

Anonymous said...

caro quintero was just a tagalong that moved up on no merits other than his big mouth,I will agree that he lasted and survived for a looong time,even if in prison,now I am hitting my nails waiting for the ill-bred results,see how long z40 and la Barbie's sentences are,may the ardilla get close to rat azz z40,pray,pray!

Anonymous said...

Felix Rodriguez stole che guevara's gun and Rolex,maybe because he was just a gofer? When is he going to finish liberating Cuba? He was just one more example of the worst that Cuba had to offer,with contacts to the higher uppers of the Cuban drug traffickers,many well connected to Spain's drug trafficking and money laundering,up to now...

Anonymous said...

Not all the us,Mister,there is a difference between the puppet masters and the puppets...

Anonymous said...

It is no fabrication that rogue agents at the very top,with CIA spy glasses,saw big fat bunches of money,and the us presidential chair through arizona,florida and Texas...

Anonymous said...

10:11 "a grandson of a signer of the constitution"...interesting,a whole new case, now,what is his name? if you know a whole new bunch of crooks,say the names,don't be affraid,it is anonymous! thanks BB...

Anonymous said...

And I would bet the us has different ends to this telenovela,including the ultimate real one,they usually have it all planned, except for the part where they are working for somebody else,that part is forbidden to the uninitiated!!! surprise end...

AmigoAnónimo said...

15 Oct, 8:51 PM said:
"AmigoAnonimo,you happy now?pinchi chillon, send your manifesto....."

Sí, ando bién feliz; gracias por preocuparse por mi propia felicidad. Muchas más gracias por haber cambiado mi nombre. ¡Que bonito nombre me dío! Pero se escribe "Pinche Chillón." Al final, con respeto al manifiesto, ya está escrito. Que bueno que se lo disfruto tanto.

Adiós,
AmigoAnónimo

Anonymous said...

There is nothing new or hidden about anything I wrote, it was put out there a long time ago. The gentlemen was a Colonel in the Mexican Army, his name was Jorge Carranza, and he was a grandson of Venustianzo Carranza. Informed Mexicans should recognize his name. Anybody who would argue that the sole cause and driving factor of current violence in Mexico or the regional drug traffic in general is American junkie consumerism and demand needs to look deeper and more closely at the history of the region and the traffic. It is for sure a complicated array of complicit forces, but rotten and corrupt Mexican authorities and institutions have played as big of a role in the history and growth of the traffic and the War as has American demand and complicity, whether illicit (criminal) or covertly official (governmental and institutional). It is a complex situation that benefits and supports more than what it obvious and easily visible. The rot and corruption is multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi cultural, and super national.

Anonymous said...

LOL, I love all these idiotic one liner comments crying about nutty conspiracy theorists while these "conspiracy theorist" actually have articulated their understanding of the situation through RESEARCH!!!

Your Pure opinions based off of ignorance of how the world works and a complete lack of will to learn is disgusting.

But that's o.k. you history deniers go back to thinking bad people with authority couldn't possibly conspire and do bad things to good people, cause that would just be preposterous. Right?

Anonymous said...

Give a careful read of Mexican journalist Anabel Hernandez' book "Los Senores del Narco" (Random House, 2010, in Spanish), also recently released in English as "Narcoland". I say "careful read", because despite Ms. Hernandez' positive professional reputation as a long-time competent investigative journalist, one needs to carefully distinguish the differences between coincidence, hearsay, collusion and outright corruption and crime. In her book, the CIA is definitely and repeatedly implicated in the murder of DEA Agent Camarena.

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